The Expanse 5x4 REACTION!! "Gaugamela"

[@17thknight]

On the theme of how important side characters are in this show, Chef Casey, even though he died, literally saved *millions* of lives

[@quiett6191]

His is apparently a Under Siege reference

[@sparrowlt]

@@quiett6191 Yeap.. Ty confirmed it. it was to be honest quite obvious

[@TehIdiotOne]

In the books, billions. Not sure why they reduced the numbers of deaths so much in the show.

[@Hydralysk445]

@@TehIdiotOne It may not be that different. All we hear in the show is death tolls from the blast, but in the book most of the casualties are from exposure/starvation in the aftermath, not from the blast itself.

[@andrewdiaz3529]

@@TehIdiotOne They haven't had time to tally it up in show yet. Earth just got its government mostly functioning by the end of the season.

[@zachcreaghcoen2389]

Probably one of my favourite episodes of TV ever. Had my jaw on the floor almost the entire episode. It also came out on my birthday so extra amazing. Spent my whole birthday working out the math of the explosions. As a engineer. Perfect Birthday.

[@AngeloBarovierSD]

"I hate him. But it was a good speech." Yep. Marco Inaros in summary.

[@Braiam]

They will love the Knife in the Darkness speech. The only public for that one was Philipe, but it's so good.

[@TehRealRyan]

@@Braiam which episode was this?

[@2KOOLURATOOLGaming]

@@TehRealRyan 5x10. "You must always have a knife in the dark."

[@TechnoMinarchist]

Marco is the epitome of envy.

[@sandejoshua01]

the red wedding, in spaaaace

[@benjaminodonnell258]

Exactly

[@Vernomeno]

They should have called this episode "shit hits the fan". I remember being speechless after this for quite some time.

[@Awol991]

About half the episodes could be called "shit hits the fan".

[@t.e.stroud1781]

Same. Spend the better half of a day just processing and remembering all of the foreshadowing.

[@sparrowlt]

if you look at the battle of Gaugamela its basically "Shit really hit the fan"

[@GillianRosheuvel]

100%

[@travisspazz1624]

Game of Thrones 3x09 Hannibal 2x13 Mr Robot 3x06 And now The Expanse 5x04

[@ozcanison]

The forshadowing in the show is phenomenal. In early season 1 Avasarala said to someone it was "terrorists throwing rocks that scares her".

[@mattjofre]

Finally! The Expanse is literally the main reason I'm a patreon and is the only show I go full length for. This season is some of the best TV out there honestly. As always, can't wait for the next one!

[@xTrinity007]

I appreciate Eric’s commitment to the high bit throughout the whole intro.

[@VenoRPG]

This! 😂🎉

[@sparrowlt]

9:53 I renember Ty's hilarious response to someone on twitter when they asked him how they did the robot spider .. (he said it was a tamed Tarantula in costume)

[@mydudeleakytiki3261]

Just an FYI ... the creator of the robot was Adam Savage from the show, "Mythbusters" ... (hence the company that made the robot being "Savage Industries")

[@MattNolanCustom]

Do you have a reference / link that supports this? I thought the Savage Industries branding here and there in the show and his cameo was just an homage to Adam. The robot looks like CGI rather than practical. Maybe some shots have practical elements. I'd love to know more details if you have them.

[@verbalbbq7976]

I love the scene when Clarissa is explaining life in prison to Amos. You can see in his face that he’s thinking “shit, I’m tough but not this tough”

[@redfox3334]

I love the technical aspect of the robot scene because the Protomolecule case is practical, and the flipping of the bed.

[@sparrowlt]

13:35 look carefully in the lower left .. you can see two flashes...its the orbital railguns firing.. then to the right of the asteroid there is ship (A Leonidas class battleship) wich fires a missile volley vaporizing whatever is left of the asteroid

[@Variecs]

Peak television.

[@hoos3014]

Great reaction. This was my favorite episode this season. More good stuff to come.

[@josegiron7008]

The politics in this show got me hooked on it for sure, excellent excellent show that def needs more recognition outside its fanbase

[@Afterburner215]

Gaugamela is the location of a famous battle where Alexander The Great fought. With his ship being named the Pella, another location related to Alexander The Great, I wonder what Marco Inaros thinks of himself as?

[@MattNolanCustom]

And Alexander the Great's father was called Philip.

[@nathanp2007]

If I had one disappointment in this series it was how they depicted, more specifically in coming episodes, the damage the rocks did. In the book(s) the damage, mainly in the weeks and months after the strike are horrific and connect back to Prax's dialog about the Cascade. Because we are so limited in our knowledge we think about rocks hitting Earth like that and we only really think about the millions of deaths. But in reality it leads to billions of deaths and making Earth borderline uninhabitable. All supply chains are destroyed or disrupted. Billions die due to food and water shortages aka starvation and dehydration, not to mention violence and a lack of medical support. Lastly, the plume of dust from the impacts enters the atmosphere, blocking out the sun. Effectively creating a nuclear winter. This also plays a part in the food shortages with the inability to grow crops with no sun. The book(s) really make you aware of all of this and so the impacts and then what happens after feels like you're reading 9-11 on Superman level steroids. But the show doesn't get this across nearly as well in scope and impact. I really, really wish they had executed it better because it is an iconic, universe changing event in the Expanse story and it was the perfect opportunity to massively impact the viewing audience. If the show had let those moments breath more, shown us more of the impact the rocks made (literally and metaphorically) on humanity and then what happens afterwards I feel like it would be chilling, horrifying and bring tears to the audience's eyes. But in my experience and from what I gather from other Expanse viewers online, it didn't have that effect. It felt like a big moment but it didn't rip your heart apart or bring tears to your eyes as it should have.

[@georgioschrysikopoulos5417]

That mostly happens in Babylon’s Ashes though, which is the next book/season. Maybe we’ll see it afterall.

[@Reedstilt]

I think we'll see more of the Cascade aspect next season. From what I remember, that was mostly in Babylon's Ashes rather than Nemesis Games anyhow. We only got hints that the Cascade was coming via Amos and Clarissa , just like we did in the show.

[@nathanp2007]

@@georgioschrysikopoulos5417 you're not wrong but the show is known for advancing story and characters from later books into the show now. The problem with waiting to show all of that though is by the time we see it, it's been a year or more since we saw the rocks hit and the immediate aftermath of that. We're disconnected from how huge that moment is (should have been). I'm not saying they shoulda time jumped just to show billions dying but they should have made the rocks hitting way more impactful (no pun intended) and should have given us at least one meaningful scene where Avasarala gets briefed about what's going to happen and the audience watching is like 😲🤯😰 "holy shit this is BAD". Then in the next season we can see it play out and be heartbroken by it.

[@nickdouglas736]

@@nathanp2007 tbh anyone with half a brain knows that the consequences of three rocks hitting earth are gonna be brutal in the long run. Like we all know how the dinosaurs went extinct.

[@nathanp2007]

@@nickdouglas736 eh, even if you sit after the episodes and think about it and that thought comes to you, it hits different when the show shows/tells you about in while you're immersed in the story. This show hasn't shown much of Earth for us the viewers (esp non book readers) to see how truly overcrowded it is. How strained the systems are. How there are 30 billion humans living on Earth. You might have caught one or two of those things in passing but being SHOWN it hits different.

[@putinscat1208]

They knock Fred off his boots, but the Belter girl and friends and running and jumping.

[@Benjamas-]

Such an amazing episode, I appreciate the reaction and discussion of 9/11 and how it was very reminiscent of that. Hope you guys react to Battlestar Galactica (2004) mini series and tv series in the future.

[@kampfkeks6619]

I love how the hypocritical nature of Marco Inaros is explained more. All of his Navi is Martian, he has a huge ego and really wants people to know he is the one doing it. His Legacy is what's most important to him

[@trinova9581]

It’s good you pointed out the 9/11 similarities. The episode and events were deliberately written to evoke that same feeling, of a massive surprise attack out of nowhere. Also, props for being able to recall the model number of crab droids. That’s next level Star Wars nerd knowledge!

[@THESERIOUSKNOB]

God I hate that that's a major takeaway from some people

[@DizRupTnz]

@@THESERIOUSKNOB Why?

[@THESERIOUSKNOB]

@@DizRupTnz Seppos act like 9/11 is the most unique thing that ever happened and worse incidents haven't occured elsewhere. I think the only thing that event marks is the point the US became extremely xenophobic. It was a tragic event but it has been used to justify events far worse than it

[@DizRupTnz]

@@THESERIOUSKNOB While I don't disagree with anything you just said regarding 9/11, I fail to see how it applies in this instance. I don't see how Americans relating a tragic fictional event to a tragic American historical event and recounting their personal experience around said historical event as part of their reaction to said fictional event is a bad thing.

[@Nightley4]

Rick's quoting Dune at the end of the discussion got me thinking. They are going to react to Dune, right? :)

[@jonjohns8145]

They already did, yes.

[@Vaultboy-ke2jj]

They did last week

[@Nightley4]

@@jonjohns8145 Yeah, this comment is from October 3rd =)

[@matthewfors114]

@@Nightley4 that was my dads birthday

[@hellfish2309]

My favorite part of this arc is how Marco’s machinations coincide with what’s happening with Mars even though it’s not really revealed yet… like the fat question I had during first watch was “why would Mars equip the Free Navy if they knew this could happen to Mars also?” which gets answered eventually

[@snarflcat6187]

I've seen this about 120 times, and only now (as a SF novelist) it occurs to me: I wish they had set up the robot ahead of time. Last season. On Mars. When Bobby's nephew is telling her he's gotten accepted to work on the terraforming project. He could have excitedly shown her, "Look, Aunt Bobby, I'll get to program these terraforming robots!" Then no more mention of them until this episode. This would ALSO explain who made it, why, and how they got one.

[@MattNolanCustom]

I don't think it is a terraforming robot and I don't think it is martian tech. More likely some kind of space mining or salvage robot. It has "Savage Industries" written on it, which was on Melba's jump suit in S3, so most likely an Earth company. We saw Melba in a mech assist EVA suit and Drummer assembled herself mech support legs so there is precedent in the show for robotics even if the only autonomous stuff we have seen has been in-atmosphere and space drones.

[@franciscooctavius5957]

Man I couldn’t wait for you to get to this episode. RIP Fred. And damn if the actor playing Marco doesn’t give a good psychopath speech. Went full on Michael Corleone- take out all your enemies at once and claim everything from them. This season was epically good with some amazing acting and shot decisions. Also can’t wait for you to get to ep 9. Enjoy!

[@stevemartegani]

Possibly the best episode of the whole series... Been waiting to see the Blind Wave reaction!

[@allyourmoney]

The measurement of the impact's yield is vastly under estimated because the rocks had stealth coatings on them. If >90% of the mass is hidden, they can only estimate a blast yield with

[@berlindude75]

These rocks also had iron-nickel cores which would greatly enhance their damage potential.

[@Awol991]

Stompy the crabot was Savage Industries techonology.

[@TArnoldFerguson]

A tribute to Super-fan Adam Savage of Mythbusters fame.

[@bthsr7113]

Marco Inaros. The Adam Taurus of The Expanse.

[@Kennia1998]

rip fred, he was amazing and will be missed

[@aldocassola]

"We haven't seen that many robotics". We've seen plenty of robotics. The PDCs, torpedoes, the little tugs they used to turn the Nauvoo, the drones flying around on Ceres and Earth. Not that many that walk around? Sure.

[@mikek9297]

No androids or cyborgs tho. But there were none in the books either...

[@aldocassola]

@@mikek9297 I’d consider people with mods “cyborgs”, though. Kenzo (S1), Cohen, Clarissa (S3), and now, Monica. Proto-Julie was literally assimilated. Maybe others?

[@bwallatube]

@@mikek9297 Ty has spoke about this at least once, don't want to over state his wording but it was to the effect of: in a situation where you have to many people competing to even have a job there is an active choice "in universe" to not supplant labor with androids.

[@matthewfors114]

@@aldocassola i met the first cyborg, for real. stoughton,ma around 05-06 matthew nagle was his name

[@garethneller8239]

Wait, was that a deep rock galactic reference?! FOR ROCK AND STONE!

[@sethbledsoe4286]

Lol Eric, I caught that Chop Suey! reference.

[@snarflcat6187]

"I don't know how deep they are..." They showed the elevator going down 10.floors... So at least 120 feet down. And heavily reinforced. So that was a more or less direct hit.

[@berlindude75]

Not a direct hit but close. That second rock impacted just northwest of Philadelphia. The UN penitentiary where Amos is visiting Clarissa is on the shores of Chesapeake Bay, likely close to Baltimore considering later events.

[@camizimmerman]

This is such a good episode!

[@ruhk]

they never fully explain how they work in the show but Clarissa has black market modifications to her endocrine system, controlled by a switch in the back of her mouth. When activated, they release a large amount of synthetic hormones in her system that slows down her perception of time and grants enhanced strength and reflexes for several seconds.

[@TheBatzFiend]

Are you guys gonna watch the new Witcher trailer?

[@riccardogemme]

Ah yes, the shit hits the fan episode

[@mikedignum1868]

Did you notice the name of the chief...Chief Casey aka Casey Ryback from Under Seige.

[@Lb24458]

You guys need to watch 12 Monkeys.

[@Jonathan-ug9yu]

They can save you from amazing things, but humans can't bring you back from the dead

[@mathewdelamere1]

He kept the monster under his bed :)

[@xanderalaniz2298]

P E A C H E S

[@-6ix559]

Yeah those speeches are pretty good out of Marco.

[@LordTelperion]

Holy Terra! Nooooo! The day long foreshadowed and long dreaded is here.

[@minusxero]

Let's fucking gooooooooo

[@torrijosisnice5750]

Soooooo Good!

[@emmanuelbaj3944]

Remember the Cant

[@vvreno]

You wanted to! 😂

[@Vaultboy-ke2jj]

It wasn’t ten times what they said the impact would be, it’s actually one tenth. They said 3 megatons but now said 300 kilotons

[@Jegekim]

It's pretty strange, a more reasonable number would have been 300 Megatons. 300kT is like a small-ish nuclear bomb. The show kinda dropped the ball on this stuff IMO.

[@Reedstilt]

@@Jegekim Supposedly it's an error in the script and it should have read megatons rather than kilotons. Optimistically, this could be justified in setting by Earth's press having incomplete information at the time; less optimistically, they're downplaying the extent of the damage.

[@Jegekim]

@@Reedstilt Good points, and I'm willing to look past it. It's just a bit unfortunate and makes this event seem less devastating, though hopefully they can fix that next season.

[@biocapsule7311]

So far the show is very very kind to Inaros as a character, he is a lot worst in the book. It is very clear from 5 & 6 that his plans were half-baked at best, and had a lot of help completing, but he always spin it as if he was the brilliant mastermind in front of others.

[@evilvolts]

what to do about a crazy prisoner? Stay tuned for the next episode to find out It's just a tiny wait ]:P

[@Brokemonk]

best part was rick referencing deep rock galactic

[@Seek1878]

When are you guys gonna react to S4 of Young Justice!???

[@MoviesAndTvShowsAreSubjective]

They said not now

[@maxmccrabb2477]

This episode when I first watched it REALLY gave me 9/11 vibes.

[@W0NK042]

Marco Inaros is one of those bad guys that you just can't help but respectfully hate.

[@mikek9297]

Some reactors really love him tho

[@quark1153]

@@mikek9297 They actually love him as a person? That's kinda weird and disturbing.

[@mikek9297]

@@quark1153 More like a character I guess... some people just love a proper villain.

[@marcc1830]

The whole solar system just lost the freedom to choose co-existence, so F Marco.

[@KylaTalks]

The thing I love about this show is that there’s villains, but not really. The Belters have been basically treated as slaves and have been murdered by Mars and Earth for hundreds of years prior to this (let’s not forget all the men, women, and children that Fred was ordered to kill, the massacre on Eros, Ganyemede, the harsh conditions belters were forced to work in, the way Earth forced themselves on the Belter colony in Season 4, or the general way Belters are treated or regarded (calling them “skinnies” etc). They have been slaughtered and treated horribly. So, it may see, extreme, but a lot of oppressors only understand violence and only pay attention when the violence they’ve been dishing out is finally given back to them. You can’t expect ppl who have been slaughtered and treated harshly to not eventually retaliate. How much do ppl think someone can take? Yes, Marcos is also a narcissist, abuser, and has a few other issues that make him a real villain, but I also get his POV. I couldn’t do it, but I 1000% get why he did. This is not at all why I can’t stand Marcos - my reason for disliking him has more to do with Filip and Naomi.

[@sierra1513]

I'm pretty sure genocide is a pretty good reason to dislike somebody

[@tysonas1]

You guys haven’t even posted the new Witcher trailer yet, it’s been out two days

[@captnd6410]

PLEASE REACT TO THE NEW DOCTOR WHO EPISODES COMING OUT

[@captnd6410]

@@jayden.188 oh I didn’t know because I got banned from Twitter lol

[@BlindWave]

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