17HMR vs 22MAG Hunting!

[@blockethoutdoors]

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[@RyanAhearn1]

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[@JonathanClark-o5h]

@@RyanAhearn1 Really!

[@JonathanClark-o5h]

Amen!

[@quennethibanez3658]

I wish you give me a gun anything that you don't use anymore please I'm from digos city Davao del sur Philippines

[@michaeldickens2472]

Amen 🙏

[@snaggletooth14]

I love how your video is no nonsense, edited perfectly, and straight to the point.

[@nathanlambshead4778]

Old time rural home owner here. Had 22 mags for over 4 decades. Woodchucks, beavers, raccoons, skunks, foxes, showshoes, all have fallen to my 22 mag. I use 40 grain HPs. Winchester Super X for years till the plandemic when I couldn't find any, so switched to CCI maxi mag and am very happy with them. I would not change to 17 personally, but If I had the same fields that you are shooting in I might. My longest shots are right around 115 yards however, and I have never held over. FYI Up here in Maine you can actually legally hunt deer with 22 mag. Not that I would, but if push came to shove and that's all I had, nice to know.

[@gizmocarr3093]

The idea of the 22WMR design replicated a 22 Hornet ballistic performance. For use hunting wild turkeys and not destroying the meat for the table. The loaded 40 grain bullet traveling a below 2,000 feet per-second work the same as the hand loaded bullet in the Hornet. I used the 22WMR for the past 50 years for groundhogs, Turkey, Fox, Bobcats and a few coyotes. The bullet is a key to the performance choice that makes the 22WMR a more versatile cartridge. I tested bullet designs and weights from 50-grain solids to 30-grain bullets. All of them will produce essential accuracy for the task needed. All the main manufactures produce 22WMR ammunition. Federal used a Serra 30-gain hollow point bullet that I found preformed best for groundhogs. The 17 has limitations for use where the 22WMR is still today a more versatile hunting rimfire cartridge. However, the New the .17 Winchester Super Magnum cartridge would be a choice bettering varmint hunting extending the range to 200-yards over both. 🤔👍

[@heathhalfhill6401]

The 17 HMR has its place for sure but so does the .22 WMR. The .22 WMR with Winchester Supreme 34 grain HP is a wicked combination on anything up to 50 lbs. The 17 HMR is a flatter shooting round but the energy falls off at distance quicker than the 22 WMR. I knew a guy who is now in jail for poaching deer with 40 grain semi jacketed hollow points in his 22 WMR and he claimed to have taken neck and head shots on whitetail deer out to 200 yards before he was finally caught. Another guy has a 17 HMR and he says the same as you in regards to the 17-20 grain rounds for it also. Both are great rimfire cartridges. For the cost I will keep my 22 WMR but will be getting a 17 HMR in the near future. I'm in no hurry because I fell down the rabbit hole with higher end PCPs for the past 8 years and enjoying the super cheap cost per round with the same accuracy out to 100 yards I get with my rimfires plus no noise is also a super nice plus. Love your videos bud. Stay blessed and thanks for the showdown between 2 really fun cartridges.

[@johnbartlett7000]

I feel ya lol I bought a sig sauer asp20 22 cal break barrel im up to 80 squirrels extremely quiet and very affective

[@rallek.1980]

Hunting anything bigger than Foxes or Racoons with a 22 WinMag or a 17 HMR is not species-appropriate and not at all animal friendly!! He is in jail and that is good!

[@richardjiles3654]

​@rallek.1980 It's not appropriate to you in your opinion! We get it about it being illegal but at the same time to many proven cases these rounds definitely drop bigger game in it's tracks!

[@darylsapergia3663]

I hear you on the PCP's. Air Force and FX's in the stable now along with an Umarex Hammer Carbine on order.

[@kylekruger4500]

Both have their place. I met an old depression era man years ago and he said between him and his brother they put deer in their diets all yr long. Hmr most velocity and flatter shooting at 100+. Well placed shots are compared to David and Goliath. I have both and love'em almost equally

[@jasyamaha]

Maybe try CCI TNT 22 WMR. They explode on impact, very destructive.

[@christoon7848]

Yea i like CCI maxi mags for my 22 wmr and the mini mags for my 22lr

[@monikajorges4398]

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[@ZaydenHetherington]

This video is excellent. I love it. In the world of rimfire ballistics, I’ve learned a thing or two from your videos. So I appreciate it man.

[@BrandtCole]

Love how your posting more often keep it up

[@David-mz3or]

Thanks!

[@jdilley6025]

I have used both .22 Mag. and .17 HMR on Ground Hogs. Hit a bunch with the .22 and all but one made it back to their holes. (Blood, but no body.) With the .17 HMR, none moved more than a couple feet. Most dropped where they stood, DRT. Last year I put down 52 Ground Hogs with 52 shots, and missed one in a 35-40 mph cross wind at 95 yards. Made up for that miss by getting 2 with one shot later. For "Whistle Pigs", the 17 HMR with 17 grain Vmax is the "King of the Hill". Stopped using the .22 Mag. for this type of hunting all together. All shot were 210 yards or less with no hold over with the .17 HMR. Although for the 210 yard shot I did hold along the top of his back. The .22 Mag. might be better for Coyote, but I have put down several with the .17 HMR., again DRT.

[@billjue1753]

How do you get 2 with same shot when none of hmr17 exited?

[@Chadski-22]

Great choice for comparison! I like the 17HMR. wear some ear pro, you'll appreciate it at 50 yrs old 😊

[@Nifilheimur]

43 year old with severe tinnitus and wholeheartly agree there. But then again when i was 20 i didnt listen to the old farts either😂

[@sandrageorge4429]

Being a Vietnam vet who who never wore hearing protection due to wanting to hear a leaf rustle , I surely regret it now 😢

[@ethimself5064]

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[@cliffb.2416]

Love both. Just different tools. You should try out some different 22mag ammo. There's some of there with large hollow points for more instant energy dump.

[@todosan375]

The 22 mag is rotating at 113,000 rpm, whilst the hummer is rotating at 212,000 rpm. IF the bullets fragment equally, consider the impact of those individual fragments. This is why you see unreal impacts with calibers such as the 17 Ack Hornet, the 17 Mach IV, the Tac 20, and the 204 Ruger. Most all of them have the higher twist rates to stabilize the smaller pill. This translates to significantly different downrange performance. Its instant. Results in fewer wounded animals. On that point alone, I set the mag aside.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

RPM has nearly nothing to do with terminal effect. Rotational inertia on a groundhog through 2 inches of flesh versus hitting it with a lead round ball? Tell me the amazing difference.

[@Kmecha84]

Higher twist rates stabilize heavy bullets...

[@thepotatolaunchertimerchan111]

This last weekend I was shooting a 10” steel plate at 250 with my .17 HMR. ( I bought the CZ 457 because of your videos) It was windy but I was able to achieve an okay group on the plate. Love the videos!

[@edwardabrahamiii3742]

We alaskan natives use 17hmr and 22 mag on bearded seals ribbon seals and spoted seals along with ringed seals

[@Ziggiep09YT]

who think he should collab with KG

[@half-assedandnotfast3375]

Not a huge fan of KG too much of an act. Blocketh has good no nonsense content

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[@oncall21]

I have a CZ 452 both in 17HMR and 22 Magnum. My experience on foxes is that the 17HMR actually kills a lot quicker inside of 100 yards. It's as if the 17gr pill enters and explodes like a grenade. What I like about the 17HMR is that it shoots like a laser beam out to 100 yards requiring zero hold over. The 22 Magnum is also good but occasionally shoots right through. I also use the Hornady V Max for both rifles. Great video and thanks for sharing.

[@markr5132]

Awesome Job + great information; I think you are analyzing the shots very logically and have a friendly non phony commentary-Keep it up!

[@darylsapergia3663]

The Martini I build in .17HMR - 18 1/8" GM barrel, Clymer reamer - does 3/8" for 5 shots at 100 meters with 17gr. Vmax, Hornady ammo. Gophers to 284yards. We restrict our range on them to 200yards when using the Marlins. Mine does 3/4" and my gopher buddy's Marlin does 1/2". At 200, we can still get chest and head hits with those rifles.

[@AndyYoung789]

I own or have owned a slew of varmint rifles in 22, 22 mag , 17 HMR. But my favorite is PO Akley's 22 Eargenspliten Loudenboomer: The 378 Weatherby necked down to 17 caliber. I'm sure it would have been one of Elmer Keith's favorite's too. No point in arguing! Hell, he was there!

[@aah5584]

Use the cci maximag tnt for the 22 mag if you want some crazy expansion

[@perrylc8812]

I use 22mag because it’s what I got. I have 2 choices 22LR(grandfathers old rifle, no scope) been using it for 50+ years, or a 22 mag (got it after an old friend died). Besides I 66 & disabled so I don’t shoot very often anymore. Also my neck of the woods has exploded with people moving in trying to get away from Houston Tx. No more open space to shoot 😢

[@dopefiendlarz133]

Please don’t forget to wear ear protection people. Living with tinnitus in your 60s socks.

[@TheFunkhouser]

Zzzzz, srsly!!

[@JESTERdaGOON]

I’ve had tinnitus since I was 19. 28 now and it only gets worse. Listen to this man, use ear pro

[@upnorth5465]

Exactly why I stick to 22lr. No need for ear pro when hunting with a rifle.

[@BluegillBros]

Great job Blocketh! You should do a collab with KG

[@mertvlogs9811]

For sure

[@seandavis492]

🎉 yes sir😊

[@johncollier5305]

He really should they would be great friends

[@lukegallow1733]

Very cool young man! My old marlin 22 WMR has been in my possession forever I really enjoy it. I only use 45 grain Hornady. My Marlin won't shoot the 30's for shit . What you're doing with both rounds is impressive. Great job on the video. That little 17 is sweet.

[@tylesveque2373]

In the beaverlodge hotel in Alberta there was a stuffed grizzly that was taken down by a native lady with a 22 mag. This is what makes me like the magnum

[@holleyman1970]

No, Bella Twin killed that grizzly with a Cooey Ace #1 rifle on May 10th 1957 shooting 22 shorts. It was a world record grizzly at the time with a Boone and Crocket score of 26 5/16".

[@awake780]

That should tell you everything you need to know about the importance of shot placement.

[@tylesveque2373]

@@holleyman1970 is that what it was I just remembered seeing it and was told it was a mag This year I guess a young archery hunter had an encounter with a grizzly in that area and took it down with 1 arrow

[@lucasswank2583]

If you don't see the point in a 22mag you never spot lighted deer lol

[@ifs_fishing]

Fond memories of plugging in a spot light into the cigarette lighter in an old chevy......

[@lucasswank2583]

@@ifs_fishing good ole times!!! I wish we could bring back the memories!!!!!

[@sdpy15]

*Game warden has entered the chat *

[@Oregon-airguns]

Nowadays you can use airguns and digital night vision scopes. Much more effective 😂

[@TheNoName484]

@@lucasswank2583wish we could turn back time to the good ol days

[@Jacob_Parker_Outdoors]

Awesome vid! I would use a more powerful round like the cci game point 40gr 1875 fps. It will have quite a bit more power at 100 yards than the smaller v max.

[@chickenplays1550]

Try the 17wsm it will beat them both

[@TheReallyPleasedDoge]

It's almost 500 FPS faster muzzle velocity than the .17HMR and was a real blast for pest control. Unfortunately Hornady knew this and stopped making boolots for it, as its a a superior competitor to their own HMR. Now if you can find boolots for the .17WSM its going to be Winchester or American Eagle - IF you can find any .. neither of which are good quality and you know how picky rimfires cam be. I ended up selling it.

[@sqhunter65]

i had a 17hmr go right through a coyote ,and blow out the other side at like 125 yards. i asked the guy at the gun shop whats up with that there not supposed to do that. he said that bullet is so small , and light they dont always exspand unless it hits something hard enough . he said that 22mags are more reliable when it comes to that, but on the same hand said they ricochet way more. for the most part i use 17hmr as well because because they shoot flatter , and i don't have to worry about ricochet.

[@pebrito]

Congrats from Brazil. Two great guns and great calibers.

[@UncleDeanmachinist]

I like the way you done the comparison with identical rifle, scope and ammo (which a lot of others do not) yes I find the 30v max do not expand as much as the 17hmr ammo. I would choose 17 hmr (but I do love my 17hornet that is a game changer) great video my friend and sweet shooting! 🎯👌👊🏼🇬🇧

[@shemvervloet-q2z]

LOVE THESE VIDEOS KEEP IT UP

[@Joe-g8s]

You’re right it’s because I just ordered a 17 HMR and I’m waiting for it to come in and I can’t wait for it. I was looking at 17 HMR’s and 22 Magnum and I just thought that the 17 HMR without your feet per second so I looked it up and it did so I went with the 17 HMR love your videos do lots

[@lastchance3552]

Which 17 did you order?

[@eddyg6093]

Great video. Thanks for taking the time to produce it. What camera was used, if you don't mind me asking? I've used the 17HMR 17gn for years.

[@bobbydee1187]

Wow. So many groundhogs.

[@ragetiger89]

By far the best comparison video!!

[@Brett_M]

I would’ve thought it to be the opposite I’m glad you made this video!

[@TMtrails]

The ultimate matchup🔥

[@Codyerickson-u1x]

Love the videos keep em up👍

[@thejoyfulhomemakermeganeli2454]

I love the videos man so keep up the great work😀 p.s. My son watches you on my account, lol. He loves your channel and clearly enjoys commenting on your videos. 😂😂

[@Oregon-airguns]

Nice cover up 😂

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[@corytheriault2365]

While 17hmr and 22 wmr are mostly a wash when comparing around here the real deciders are cost and availability! 17 is slightly more expensive and much harder to find rnds for (at least during last ammo shortage)

[@readyalready4697]

Same reason why match bullets on big game work so well.

[@stevethomas5387]

Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

[@Patriot36]

Dude, seriously great video!

[@kadepeters]

Keep up the great work!

[@christinahovnanian2530]

Keep up the great work I love your videos

[@MrBayoublue]

Great video. Exactly what I was looking for. Going to get a new hmr

[@outdoordauber]

I use 22 mag with CCI 40 gr Maxi Maf HPs. I've never had a groundhog shake off a well placed hit. I can't speak to the V-Max because I've never used them.

[@ВасилевсИм]

17 -й имеет более выгодную баллистику, но я выбрал 22 в исполнении 310 м/с. При активной стрельбе в ветер привыкаешь делать правильные поправки на ветер. Для меня важна бесшумность для вылазок в соседний регион, что бы не уходить от погони охраны.

[@Steve-d1d9f]

Blocketh 22mag trajectory with a 40 grain pill. Dead on at 25yrd is 1" high at 75 yrd back to zero at 100 yrds. 150 yrds 3" drop

[@mckwilly]

You were blessed with talent and skill, you have done your part and sharpened those skills good stuff !, Definitely more energy dump with 17

[@perryparsons9960]

I bought my 17 HMR back when it was the only available ammo, all the .22LR was going for absurd prices at resale. What made up my mind was seeing ballistic gel shots out to 200 yards. The temporary wound cavity is huge upon impact. It is reassuring to see it does what it does in practical conditions and applications. Plus, 10 years later ammo is still in the 15 bucks a box range.

[@scooter2kool173]

During Covid shutdown.17 was available all day during that madness.

[@DJ_Taylor24]

You should totally look into 17-5.56 kak. It’s a brand new ammo type and platform but so far the results are impressive

[@theyoungoutdoorsman5814]

I think a jacketed hollow point would have been a better test for both maybe retest both? The 22 mag has more penetrating properties but less damage in the smaller animals so maybe the hollow points that expand much more rapidly would be better for groundhogs??? Maybe test it out

[@romanmarkin4476]

Perfect shots!!! What type of scope cam you use?

[@CoryFarris]

Great video! Thank you for posting.

[@jeffstevens156]

Excellent video! You got more action than I ever did in Indiana.

[@MattJablonski-b2c]

Thr Kel-Tec CMR-30 is the reason for 22 mag. Ive got mine set up with a thermal for coyotes. Doesnt get much better then that.

[@22mtrent]

I’ve seen this before repeated in ballistic gel. 17HMR seems to dump its energy quicker and expands a lot upon impact. Where 22WMR dumps its energy slower and over longer narrower wound channel.

[@Jfishinanoutdoors]

I call bad shots on 22mag for this challenge

[@kasonblake3655]

It’s a known fact 17hmr is more accurate

[@octavava3791]

For 22mag its better to use 16in barol than a longer barol. There's very little video on comparing 22mag in different barols. But there's one video showing 22mag Vmax losing velocity in a longer barol and significantly more velocity in a shorter 16in barol.

[@garyk76]

@@octavava3791 the longer the barrel the more velocity you get no matter what caliber it is a short barrel 22 magnum isn’t going have much more velocity than a long barrel with a 22 long rifle I’ve seen some short barrels be more accurate than long barrels but s fr as velocity goes the longer barrels have more velocity

[@shanevonharten3100]

Had a couple of 22mags over the years but got a 17hmr now and will never go back

[@bobroese4716]

I thoroughly enjoyed your video As I Am contemplating getting a 22 mag instead of my 17 hmr. After seeing the video I'll stay with my v-mag 17 HMR. Great video. Thanks

[@ismaelvazquez6574]

Both guns run good. Definitely on preference.

[@Rubberweasel]

Like others have said, it's the ammo choice for the 22mag.

[@mr.badcat5536]

Great video man!

[@spikex41]

You should get yourself a kestrel, make those wind calls super easy, the ballistic one tells you elevation and 2x wind so high wind and low wind so you can shoot in or out of a gust

[@overkillbill4772]

One of my favorite verses. I also like Rom 1:28 that goes with that... "And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper,"

[@elvinirons5959]

I own both, my son loves the 17HMR, I like my 22mag, but I shoot lghter weight ammo n it’s been great !! Great video !!!

[@dandevey2844]

You are comparing pore bullet placement with the 22 mag vs perfect bullet placement with the 17 hmr. A 22lr will do the job with perfect bullet placement. It makes for a iffy comparisons.

[@BlonggYangg]

This looked like a fun video to record!

[@bradenmeuth7122]

First video I’ve seen in a while that was a true comparison using the exact same rig

[@gboutdoors5198]

Hey man, you are an awesome dude! You are one of the two people who inspire me to do KZbin and keep pushing forward. Thanks, man! I really enjoy your content.

[@judgehastheword9069]

I bought the new Christensen Arms MPR Desert Brown .17 HMR 16" 1:9" Carbon Bbl Rimfire Rifle w/Folding Stock Only 6 pounds one of the best 17HMR I have owned. Not a cheap rifle bolt action. 1/4" moa. Lot of carbon fiber way its only 6 pounds. I had it shooting sighted in in only 5 shots. At 100 yds.

[@brycenroland1110]

Your the best man you make my day👍🏿

[@shemvervloet-q2z]

BLOCKETH should do a vid with KG

[@christinehull748]

Yaaaaaaa

[@TylerHicks-s4s]

17 hmr all day man!! Great video !!

[@Stillsodamnzorro]

I think it comes down to philosophy-of-use. .17hmr seems almost unquestionably ideal for rodents at distance. In a broader, survival-oriented application, however; I suspect that hunters can still take rodents with .22mag, but they can also take beefier creatures like deer, hogs, or coyotes at closer range. Both cartridges have merit, but .22 wmr is more versatile over-all...at least provided that the hunter can do their part with regard to bullet drop and shot placement.

[@jhod51]

I have a Savage bolt action 17HMR and out of my 34 guns, if I could only keep one, it would be that one. I don't even have an itch to look at something else for small varmit hunting. Good video

[@logankaroffa1520]

Try the critical defense rounds from Hornady. Big difference in energy transfer

[@neoextream007]

Need to try the 17wsm

[@HuntingWithRJT]

Really enjoy your videos mate, keep up the great work

[@trinityyin9190]

Another great vid👍👍 keep them coming

[@davidcooper2065]

Cool vid. What scope is on your CZs?

[@blockethoutdoors]

athlon helos 4-20x50

[@ApisVenandi]

The 22 hammer I have is much more acurate, the 17 hammer needed cleaning much more frequently to hit the nails accurate. My grandfather used to say a bad tradesman blames his tools, his father was in the Anglo boer war so he was orphaned and started working fulltime when he was 14. Not all hammers are for the same intended target, so if you change target you have to change your respective tools... I live in communist Western Australia, the police took one of my tools and said i had too many. They took my 17 hammer, we are not free.😢😢😢

[@AntonioPedraza-h2w]

Not really related to the comparison video, but would it be easier to get different color flags for different holes? I feel like it would be easier to know which hole you shot at.

[@meathead2676]

At 3:57 that's a house behind that groundhog hole.

[@DavidAR101]

I understand, BUTT!!! it ain't my house... SEND IT!!!

[@dylonpress7034]

You should do a catch clean cook on starlings

[@TheGDizzo]

That was weird. Made a post. Forgot to mention which one (.17 HMR) so I attempted to go back and re-edit the post. But it kept failing, and even gave me 404 errors. Then, completely closed out the phone app, and used the url link to it I copied out of it before killibg the app. And we'll see what happens when I try to post THIS new post back in it's place. Absolutely Adore! the .17 HMR! Farthest Ground Squirrel to date? 104yds LRF'd. Precarious Field conditions. Seated, onledge of a finger terminating at ravine. Shooting parallel to ravine. Off those cheapie Kwik Stix tent-pole-style shooting sticks. Soo much fun makin' rabbits do backflips at 80yds too!

[@markburke2533]

I miss hunting groundhogs, but where I am there are armadillos. However the long shots are not available because of all of the jungle type plants that consistently grow everywhere. Good video.

[@samsutton784]

First to like and comment, I love you dude keep up the hard work. Sam sutton from the uk 🇬🇧

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[@TravisEking]

I'm not sure if you check your comments but I looked at your subscribers keep going Don't get discouraged I love your videos Don't stop doesn't matter how many subscribers you have Don't stop you deserve more subscribers

[@Thatjack69]

Love the vids man keep it up

[@ethanunger-sy3zx]

HI Blake. Thanks for the awesome video. Now in my opinion the 17 Hornady magnum rifle is better because of the exact reasons you say, and I do lots of like 200-400-yard shooting on gophers so the flatter trajectory definitely helps with those 400-yard shots thanks once again Blake for educating us some more and looking forward to watching more of your videos now that's just my opinion on witch is better now have an awesome rest of your day Blake thanks and bye.

[@1Korse]

I would love to see you add 22ARC to the comparison.

[@OrtaOutdoors1923]

You should definitely do a groundhog catch and cook!

[@PixelSeekingPhotography]

i want a grouse and squirrel gun, so i think you sold me on the 17 for flat shooting, fast expanding head shots

[@mercury8180]

Great video. Very informative. 17hmr for me over the .22mag all day long.

[@Everythingtrapping]

You should hunt armidillos with both these guns