Affection for Israel as Biblical Requirement | Doug Wilson

[@BirdDogey1]

I'm a Confessional Lutheran (conservative). We sing as part of the historic liturgy that as believers we are the Chosen Israel.

[@kayorr2683]

This is my thinking and I would love to hear Dog Wilson speak more on this subject.

[@levibaer18]

@@kayorr2683 I believe that this is his position as well. He’s Presbyterian, which means he believes in one continuous covenant. Not a separate covenant for “Israel”. We are Israel.

[@ryangallmeier6647]

Eph. 2:11-22 clears this all up nicely. Rev. 12 does so as well, as long a it's interpreted correctly.

[@dr.dawna.lancaster638]

Agreed. The "Israel of God" (Gal. 6:16) is a reference to all true believers, a continuation of the remnant that has always been preserved by God. It has nothing to do with the current man-made political entity called the State of Israel.

[@Cinnamonbuns13]

There's a lot more examples than just the Frankfurt School.

[@Charlie5225]

At least 109 more

[@Razaiel]

Yup, just look at who was in the leadership of the Bolsheviks.

[@sellmorehomesnow]

“Christianity isn’t a perversion of Judaism…. Judaism is a perversion of Christianity.”

[@jachinputnam7459]

Or, more accurately still... Christian Judaism is the proper continuation of Abrahamic Judaism, under a New Covenant. And Rabbinic Judaism is a perversion of Abrahamic Judaism created largely in response to Christianity.

[@Benyamean]

@@jachinputnam7459 as the apostle Paul recommends, cut your junk off judaizer.

[@sanders194539]

@@jachinputnam7459 Christian Judaism or Messianic Judaism is not a valid way of worshipping our Lord. Their eccelisiology has major flaws. Regenerate Jews should worship together with Gentile believers. It seems as though all Messianic preachers are charasmatic, and thus have an incorrect understanding of the Holy Spirit. Additionally, Messianic teachers largely reject the doctrines of Grace/Reformed soteriology.

[@Zxuma]

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[@Zxuma]

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[@arcanum3882]

The bit about the Olive Tree and todays Jews no longer even following the original Law of Moses was very eye opening to me. I appreciate this video, Doug

[@Shadowarfare117]

After considering the Law of the Old Testament just the other day and meditating in the scriptures, I was curious what justification modern day Jews use to claim their faith is genuine. Nothing based in scripture comes close to how they behave today from my own observation. They appear to me like the Catholic apostasy, requiring love and the gospel.

[@sanders194539]

Look into the Talmud. It is evil, in fact Judaism is rebellion against the King of the Jews our Lord Jesus.

[@seasidelife9742]

Anti-semite!!! 😂

[@agustintadeo]

@@Shadowarfare117 according to dr Michael brown there are many orthodox jews who with all honesty will follow their beliefs praying a lot, fasting and guiding their wives and kids also studing day and night, but no doubt they are the offspring of The phariseas.

[@chuckcribbs3398]

So there are no believing Jews living in Israel? Did you even consider that? Truth is there are and the number is growing, daily.

[@justinthrift9603]

Wise and helpful counsel. Thanks Doug! I think that the root of the problem is that most people equate or conflate the modern nation-state of Israel with the practioners of the ancient Abrahamic faith. So when they read "Israel" or "Jew" in their Bible, they automatically think it's referring to the political entity represented by the flag with the blue hexagram, a la John Hagee.

[@geneticsmatter3834]

This has been a difficult hurdle for me in coming into the faith. I generally look upon the modern day nation of Ysrael with skepticism and distrust, after reading Allison Weir's "Against Our Better Judgment". Strongly, strongly recommend that great work for any who still support that nation. It is a short yet potent read, and exhaustively well-referenced.

[@ZephaniahL]

@@geneticsmatter3834Allison Weir, the popular historian?

[@BonusHole]

The problem is Jews are fine and Islam is barbaric and dangerous and everybody can see it so the religious side of things doesn't even come into this.

[@ByGraceThruFaith8453]

@@geneticsmatter3834 I understand what you said there. I don't know how any Christian can support that ungodly nation. Modern Israel isn't even the same as old covenant Israel in the first place. It's not being unkind or un-Christian not to support the Christ rejectors who live there.

[@thebemoloto238]

“…and Dad is still talking to him…” I love that 👍🏽🙏🏾

[@cjstout1]

That was a simple and beautiful way to put it.

[@let_us_alone5210]

Paul's affection for the Jews was a *natural affection*- his "kinsmen according to the flesh". This is why his love was so strong for them. We should have these same natural affections for our folk, and likewise a *general affection* for all other people.

[@geraldredlinger8741]

More senses are relevant to Paul's words of Jews broadly But definitely yes he had an affinity for his kinsmen according to the flesh

[@lkae4]

I'm starting to believe this is the best way to do evangelism-- make new disciples and enable the new disciples to reach their kinsmen.

[@subzerohero111]

@@geraldredlinger8741 there are no additional senses in which Paul said what he said without adding to the Text. Paul specifically said it was becahse they were his kinsmen according to the flesh. Wilson is abusing this passage to make his point.

[@DungeonMiser]

This sentiment is reinforced by 1 Timothy 5 where Paul insisted that those who do not take care of their ἰδίων are worse than unbelievers, idion meaning "one's own people"

[@geraldredlinger8741]

@@subzerohero111 You are incorrect, I am referring to the totality of the new testament and Paul's reference of Jews, not this passage alone

[@brianh1161]

It's nice that his viewpoint happens to be one that probably won't get him kicked off of KZbin.

[@stevenboyd593]

I was greeted this morning from God's word with this piece from the O.T., it spoke to me once again of his love for all His people. Spot on, thanks my brother for your input. Psalm 130:7,8 Israel, put your hope in the Lord, for with the Lord is unfailing love and with him is full redemption. 8 He himself will redeem Israel from all their sins.

[@markboland1181]

He did that and many rejected the fulfillment of this promise.

[@joshhoodrat451]

“ The worship of the state is the worship of force. There is no more dangerous menace to civilization than a government of incompetent, corrupt, or vile men. The worst evils which mankind ever had to endure were inflicted by governments.” ~ Ludwig von Mises

[@robertlewis6915]

The evils of government are great only because of the concentration of power. Politicians aren't uniquely evil; they just have a better place to be evil from.

[@YSLRD]

@@robertlewis6915 I partly agree. But it seems evil people are drawn to politics, not just corrupted by it. It's likely the thirst for power.

[@jamesfitzgerald1684]

@@robertlewis6915 I think good, moral people are not drawn to positions of power. It simply is not in their DNA. Certainly, good people do seek powerful positions, but only when the time requires it. Good people sought to declare independence from the U. K., good people sought to end slavery, and good people sought to fight evil in WWII. The problem is we've lived complicit in our freedom for several decades without a great need for good people to step up and take power. So only people that want power seek it for the sake of power. Certainly, there are good people, but the corrupt have taken over. That's part of what Donald Trump ran on. We don't have a good, just government right now. It's run by self-interest and not by the people's interest. However, I think if you read the tea leaves, there is a change coming.

[@robertlewis6915]

@@jamesfitzgerald1684 Abraham Lincoln is in the top 5 worst presidents of history, fyi. The South may have had great evils it perpetrated (the North was not really much better, just less old-fashioned), but ultimately secession should have been allowed. People with strong morals generally don't have the same draw to power that evil men do, it's true. But God calls good men to power- see David, Solomon, Nehemiah.

[@unclejessiesrodshop8432]

No matter what anybody thinks of ole Abe, he was a tyrant. I tend to think that he was Gods judgement on the USA for not living up to the standards of its founding documents. We get the leaders we deserve you could say. @@robertlewis6915

[@keithwilson6060]

That Jews and a Jewish nation even exist today is testament that God is not through with them, and has not abandoned them.

[@ministeriosemmanuel638]

Many Jews from around the Globe, opposes Zionism. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iqfRkIVqq9h8opo

[@mariannegrominger929]

Thank you for your lecture, I just recently discovered you, and now I am a fan of your messages. I live in Germany and thanks to technology, you are available everywhere

[@virtualpilgrim8645]

Sorry about what's happening to your country...

[@mariannegrominger929]

@@virtualpilgrim8645 , it is very bad, the economy is going down, prices are going up and our government is on a dream mission. What can one expect from uneducated people. I am ready to go on the street to protest

[@nathancjarrett]

I've been likely to commit the error that Os Guinness has apparently done in his recent book. I've been trying to remind myself that secular Israel has many of the same flaws that secular America has. This message helps provide some guidance on the issue. Despite some changes in my views on Israel and the church I still lean toward dispensationalism. But I think we need to avoid viewing the modern Jewish state as above reproach, or even as fellow travelers on the same spiritual journey we are on. I agree with Doug that God will eventually win back the older brother, but they aren't there yet. We should stand with them to fight the militant left,, when we find Jewish persons who are willing to do so. We should stand with our Catholic friends to oppose infanticide too. But we cannot fetishize Rome or Rabbinic Judaism when we do these things.

[@skenzyme81]

10:35 I'm not sure DW is justified here asserting that modern Ashkenazi and Sephardic jews are still jews by the ancient covenant. Aren't these substantively different peoples who pay very little attention to the elements of that covenant.

[@harbinger6753]

If they are covenantal because of circumcision, congrats to most Americans, South Koreans, and many sub-saharan Africans. Other than that, no idea what covenant Doug is referring to, since there is no temple or sacrifice to fulfill it. Kapparot doesn't count.

[@--i-am-root]

The OT Israelites didn't do a particularly good job either.

[@justinthrift9603]

I was honestly shocked that he mentioned the word Ashkenazi. Was he referring to the "Khazar Conspiracy," or do you know? You might not have even heard of this...

[@SirRatiocination]

Exactly, you can't claim to be part of the covenant of Israel when you neither have the faith of Abraham nor the works of the Law. We Christians have both in Christ. God has always operated based on covenant with his people, not based on genetics. He instructed the recipients of the Sinaitic Covenant in Deuteronomy that if they were faithful to his word, then they would be blessed in the promised land, but that if they were not, then they would be cursed and expelled from the land. The majority of "Israel" were not only unfaithful, but habitually and generationally unfaithful throughout the Old Testament. Nevertheless, God looked on those who remained faithful and called them the remnant. That remnant was bolstered by the plentiful Gentile additions upon the installment of the New Covenant with Christ. The benefits of covenant with God have always been conditioned by faith and faithfulness throughout time. There is no special promise for those now who claim mere descent from Abraham because there never has been. If you believe so, then you believe God makes distinction between Jew and Gentile as Paul expressly rejected, clarifying that all have sinned. They are in need of a Savior, who is currently available through only one covenant, namely the one established by Christ. If you submit to the terms of that covenant, then you are promised certain things. You cannot falsely claim allegiance to other covenants be they defunct or active, hoping to inherit God's blessings.

[@jimhughes1070]

You make a good point... Might I add a bit of controversy?.. speakers often talk of entire groups of people in terms of their salvation... They are already on the wrong road... Every individual will be judged as an individual every Nazi every commie every Jew every Viking every Sun worshiping Japanese.... And when that individual dies... His judgment is set...(I know that's not a popular sentiment, if it's even mentioned ever... But give it a second) people often forget that the New testament is almost entirely made up of "letters", written to people, that aren't you and me 🤣🤳 context is everything! For instance "all Israel shall be saved"... If you think about that for like one and a half seconds... That is a ridiculous statement. ...(outside of its context... Remembering it was written by a very flamboyant orator... That Peter himself said, was difficult to understand sometimes!) Sorry I already blabbed too much... Have a great day, and I'll see you in jerusalem!

[@coreysmith8489]

The United States should end military aid to Israel... 1. Israel can pay for its own military. Israel has a strong economy, an excellent international credit rating, and runs frequent budget surplus. Israel ran an annual surplus of more than a billion dollars six out of the last ten years. 2. Military aid to Israel is a security risk. Israel is a major supplier of military technology to China. These sales have been instrumental in the modernization of the Chinese military. Israel developed the Lavi fighter from American technology with 1.5 billion in American subsidies. Israel sold the Lavi fighter to China. It is now called the J-10 and is the mainstay of the Chinese Air Force. Israel has also sold China missile guidance systems,, advanced radar systems and targeting systems. 3. Israel is a diplomatic liability. 4. Military aid to Israel is illegal under the Leahy Law because of Israel's human rights violations. Any aid to Israel is illegal under the Symington amendment which prohibits aid to nations with nuclear weapons that have not signed the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and do not permit inspections of their nuclear sites,,,

[@albert77777]

wise view.

[@harbinger6753]

We should have declared war on them after any number of their provocations, from the the Rosenbergs to the Liberty, to the Lavin affair. Instead, Trump pardons Pollard and we send them $3.5B/year while they call us racist white nationalists

[@jawshh559]

Not to mention they have what certain military strategists have dubbed “The Samson Option”, which basically entails that if they are falling in battle in a seriously significant way (IE: nuclear annihilation, etc.) , they will launch a barrage of nuclear weapons at surrounding countries, regardless of if these countries were involved or not.

[@YSLRD]

@Randall Moore That would be national suicide in 2022.

[@sanders194539]

As crazy as it sounds, Israel was established by powerful international financial entities. There is a lot of disinformation, but careful research reveals coordinated efforts by wealthy Zionists to establish an apostate Jewish state. Keep in mind Jesus was crucified as the King of the Jews, the sign above his head said exactly that. So a state which by its definition is anti-christ, must be apostate, and under the influence of demonic forces.

[@JB-em9po]

Thanks Doug. I always appreciate your candor and steadfastness when people are getting a bit crazy on the right. This video needed to be made and I’m glad it was.

[@delft72]

Love the imagery created. I yearn for that party and the comforting arm of our God around me.

[@YSLRD]

As he said, the e party is in full swing. Come on in.

[@joshhigdon4951]

I got blocked from livestream on one of my favorite KZbin channels because I mentioned that Michael Brown called me an antisemitic racist for saying that "Israel" isnt an ethnicity but a people from Abraham to the end of time. People love Zionism for some reason

[@KevinVanGelder]

Modern Israel can not be legitimately compared to Judaism. Affection for Jews is drastically different from affection for Israel, the former is a biblical requirement, the latter is not.

[@chuckcribbs3398]

Funny thing is, when Jesus returns to earth He’s going to come back on Mount Hermon, and enter through the East Gate into Jerusalem. In Israel. Israel is God’s promised land to His people. Whether you like it or not.

[@asdfasdf3989]

​@@chuckcribbs3398 Are you saying that the land where the modern nation-state of Israel is is promised to Jews today? Why should I believe that?

[@lordthunderchicken4636]

​@@chuckcribbs3398howss that working out for ya now?

[@kayorr2683]

​@chuckcribbs3398 Where does the Bible say that?

[@ByGraceThruFaith8453]

@@chuckcribbs3398 That's only in the dispensational false view, not in the Bible.

[@dantuck6028]

I'm SO glad you did this video. I have been going through a metamorphosis in my faith so to speak. I've largely leaned toward premillennialism, but in recent times...thanks to you and Joel Webbon...and visiting the writings of David Chilton again, I've been embracing postmillennialism. But there has still been that nagging question, "what about Israel." This answers a lot.

[@2080bop]

The modern evangelical position on Isreal is 1 of the worst aspects of modern Christianity

[@harbinger6753]

And one of the reasons the church has no credibility of this topic

[@judah8811]

The modern evangelical position on Israel is the least of its issues. How it feels about the state of Israel is nothing compared to its stance on social issues of the day, repentance, evangelism, adultery, divorce etc.

[@harbinger6753]

@@judah8811 any church that doesn't get the Jewish question right is likely to b be getting all those other questions wrong as well. See Rev 2:9 and 3:9.

[@jawshh559]

@@harbinger6753 it is shocking how when I simply bring up certain points regarding this how much people shrink away as if I’m holding out roadkill to them. If we can’t talk about something we can’t effectively explore anything. For instance, most people aren’t even aware of “The Samson Option” that Israel is actively maintaining. It’s like a social Voldemort or something. BTW- I haven’t forgotten about you. You are still on my radar to video chat with, man!

[@harbinger6753]

@@jawshh559 to learn who rules over you... Looking forward to that chat.

[@chuckbosio2924]

I found this very helpful. Any discussion of current events is not really welcomed in the public sphere.

[@TheLordismyportion]

I appreciate how the folks at Blog and Mablog have nice taste in memes for the thumbnail. Great video as always!

[@jonathanmccormick604]

Who then are the Rev 2:9/3:9 jews who call themselves jews but are not? How is this not the ashkenazi?

[@josephvanda2172]

Thank. You I am so thankful I found You. I. Love your. History. You share. Of. The Bible and. Jesus. Living in a time. Of Such Unrest. God. Bless. You.

[@carolroberts8930]

I think sometimes we overlook the fact that the first Christians were of Jewish roots. We tend to neglect the importance of the Old Testament. It is vital that we read and soak up an understanding of what God was doing in the world before Christ began His ministry, that is, God's interaction with the Jews in particular but also with their neighboring nations. This understanding lays the groundwork for a deeper understanding and admiration for the mission of Christ. God refers to Israel (the Hebrew people) of the Old Testament as his wife. She was to bring forth a special child, a son who would crush the head of the serpent, also called Satan, the archenemy of God.. Sadly, Israel had a tendency to be unfaithful to God. Nevertheless, when the time was right in God's plan. this child was born, He was named Jesus, and this is where the New Testament begins. In my opinion, the Old Testament is the foundation on which the New Testament and the work of Christ are established, and it is essential to a deeper understanding and appreciation of the Christian faith. To God be all Glory forever and ever. His wisdom is beyond our comprehension. Let every knee bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is LORD!!!

[@TheSMEAC]

Thank you Doug

[@jankragt7789]

Well done. Scripturally true but also creative. Nice.

[@ChiliMcFly1]

Thank You

[@JonathanMellorn]

I appreciate the eschatological approach, however I believe there is a real sense in which the Jews are just like every other pagan nation and now is not the time to downplay this fact. Thank you for your thoughts pastor Doug!

[@Nashvillain10SE]

Way to illustrate the caution to the Gentiles against spiritual pride over against the Jews. The video was prefaced with this caution at 0:10

[@JonathanMellorn]

@@Nashvillain10SE I’ve changed my opinion… the “Jews” hate the Christian’s far more than other nations, “they say they are Jews: but are the synagogue of satan.” So the are special, especially wicked. “Those who killed the prophets and stone those sent to her”

[@johfu4705]

Very good! Thanks.

[@julesjgreig]

Your re-interpretation of the parable was excellent, thank you.

[@th6252]

lol, he specifically said it was not a re-interpretation of the parable(which would be heresy), but a re-purposing.

[@jimhughes1070]

my little rants aside, this is another great video and teaching by a calvinist... So hooray! 🥰🥰🏋️🙏🤳

[@ToblikB688]

Love the clarity, just as Adrian Rogers was a clear preacher on many subjects, I would say all but now with hindsight having left dispensational premil worldview, would add that his leaning to the prevailing premil interpretation would color Rom 13 among a number of other subjects. Like Israel.

[@kalimellington2013]

Yessir. Spot on. God bless you and your ministry, sir.

[@dylanmilks]

Much appreciated Doug!

[@MrFboccia]

Love you Doug

[@Randompancakes12345]

Loved this video.

[@mike16apha16]

i would just say Jesus did comment on the Jew's former and current religious state John 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. 43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. their roots in communism and atheism are evidence they still do the will of their father the devil

[@harbinger6753]

The practical application is that letting them control your institutions ends in disaster.

[@judah8811]

The disciples and first believers were all Jewish so Jesus was not calling the “Jews” as a people group children of Satan. There were elect and non elect in the Jewish nation and there were elect and non elect in the gentile nations. The elect were sons of God and the non-elect are sons of Satan. There is no need to despise them as a people group.

[@AnHebrewChild]

You shall know know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Ye do the deeds of your father. - JESUS

[@YSLRD]

Hmm. Jesus was addressing the government of Israel. He preached salvation to the people of Israel.

[@mike16apha16]

@@YSLRD yeah i kind of did say he was addressing the religious leaders did i not. and jews that reject Jesus are still under the same influence of these religious leaders to this day. by all means they do need Jesus and need to be given the gospel. but i'd also say one needs to be weary as jews do have a large presence in communism and atheism. they were the number one persecutors of the the early church and founders of the Soviet Union and fund American Atheism. jews aren't christians minus Jesus as many falsely believe. they have even rejected the old testament in favor of the Tamid

[@caitlin6151]

Your view of the topic of the Jews is one that I have slowly been coming to for years. I still have many questions, and no one to point me to the answers. I'll probably still be struggling with it when Jesus says enough, come on home.

[@BenjaminBowmanlive]

What a beautiful picture Doug invokes at the end. The heart of a true big brother.

[@theMolluskMan]

“Judeo-Christian” is an oxymoron

[@harbinger6753]

The stonetoss strip of that name illustrates it perfectly.

[@theMolluskMan]

@@harbinger6753 I know the one!

[@harbinger6753]

@@theMolluskMan based

[@chuckcribbs3398]

How? The Christian faith is no faith without Israel and the Jews. Jesus was a Jew. The Bible was written by Jews. The Christians who think we are superior to Jews, whether believing or not, baffles me. 90% of the “ church” is apostate yet we point to Non-believing Jews as incapable of coming to faith in Christ. They are in great numbers as we speak. Who are the 144,000 who come to faith just before Christ’s return?

[@theMolluskMan]

@@chuckcribbs3398 Because the Biblical worship of YHWH and the false religion of Judaism are not only not the same, they are diametrically opposed to each other ideologically. The true Israel have always been those who put their trust in Christ the Messiah. No one who practices Judaism does.

[@nativealien6215]

good talk Doug!!......

[@JJSwick-xt9hf]

Thank you for this video. Well said. Christians need to stop worshipping Judeo-Christ and worship Christ alone.

[@AnHebrewChild]

truth. JESUS himself :D (Not the cultural construct or religious concept, but the actual person: the Son of Man and God-with-us)

[@th3r0d]

So loving our LGBTQ neighbors, the addicts, and downtrodden without exception? Sounds good

[@geraldredlinger8741]

Jesus Christ is Jewish, that is irreducibly the case

[@cc3775]

Where in scripture are we called to “worship” the messiah?

[@JJSwick-xt9hf]

@@cc3775 Are you implying that Jesus Christ is not God? Which of course you are free to believe... I'm just trying to make sense of your question.

[@stephenwells1559]

My respect to you for discussing this topic. Of all the prominent people (who aren’t banned or arrested) who have expressed an opinion, you are the least objectionable. I would contend a few things with you. First many of the promises made to Abraham and passed onto Jacob/Israel are to their seed, ie their genetic line/race. So to say that Ashkenazie (excuse the spelling if wrong) genetics is irrelevant because of Covenant is misguided. It should also be pointed out here that non genetic conversion first took place in the book of Esther and became a real problem during the rise of Rome when non Israelites were labelled Jews and converted and placed in rulership roles. This is why Herod was particularly upset at the coming of Christ. Herod also saw to the corruption of the Levite order installing converted “Jews” into positions of authority in the Temple. I also call your attention to the return to Jerusalem after the Babylon captivity when they cast out all the interbred mixed race offspring from their ranks. As well as Deuteronomy where it is forbidden to marry from any tribe that is an enemy of God, even unto the 10th generation. Christ in John’s vision in Revelation 2:9 says He knows the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews but are not, but are the Synagogue of Satan. They existed in Christ’s time on Earth and they are almost nothing but today. My own perspective on Jews as a group is “love thy enemy”. Two things matter here. First don’t go out of your way to do hateful things to anyone regardless of who they are. Second, we still have enemies!! In regards to “good Jews”, well there are Good Samaritans too, but at the end of the day a Good Jew still prioritises the well-being of Jews above non Jews. AS THEY SHOULD! You put family before strangers, but we should be under no illusions of who the majority of their family is. Not just people who reject Christ, but whose faith and history is one of actively hating Him and wanting to destroy everyone who worships Him or comes from a society based on His rule.

[@stephenwells1559]

The Party analogy is also not lost on me and I thank you for it. I believe most of modern Jews are descended from Esau and not from Jacob. The older brother who sold his birthright for a meal and then whose father Jacob tricked to ensure he not Esau received the blessing. Though reconciled in the Bible, his descendants still carry the grudge. A sense of entitlement. Though you may have been thinking Joseph as Isaac favoured Esau, where as Jacob favoured Joseph.

[@AnHebrewChild]

"Take heed, and beware of the leaven of the pharisees, and of the leaven of Herod" - Jesus

[@thecontrolledmind]

A wise and Godly summarise of the most difficult and potentially dangerous topic in the Western world. Your breeziness about Kabbalah and the mystery cult element of Talmudism was a little too polite to the small hats though, in my view. Those doctrines are not just generic paganism. They are the esoteric doctrines of Babylon brought into the modern age, and have spawned far more evils than Hinduism, Confucianism or even Islam. They create spirits that war against God, and His church. Peace.

[@geraldredlinger8741]

'They create spirits' -_- Source: I made it up

[@thecontrolledmind]

@@geraldredlinger8741 anyone who remains unaware of the Western occult origins of both orthodox Marxism and its current cultural iteration in the West is either not paying attention or does not want to know. James Lindsay's outstanding work on his New Discourses channel may be of assistance to the first category of ignorance. The doctrines of Western occultism, which are the mystery school religion of Babylon and Egypt, were conveyed to modernity via Kabbalah and the doctrines of the rabbis. Milquetoast pseudo-Christian conservatives may not wish that to be, but it do.

[@kvelez]

5:43 Good analysis. God bless.

[@morgangreenlee2091]

Great video!

[@OkieAllDay]

If you have trusted in Christ you are spiritual Israel

[@HolyWarrior1]

You are Israel.*

[@OkieAllDay]

@@HolyWarrior1 Exactly!

[@Dindinger]

Affection for Ancient Israel is certainly a requirement of a believer. But I would love some clarification on the "covenant" that you are referring to when you say that gentiles such as the alleged kingdom of the Khazars can join a covenant. Are you saying that the old Covenant that God made with Abraham is available to anyone today, as long as they become Jews, even through a forced political process? I doubt that is what you are saying, but it seems to be.

[@austinrothjr]

How so? In all or in part? What’s your reference?

[@vejoshiraptor]

My exact question. How can they have joined the covenant, when the only covenant left to join is in Christ? You can’t go back and join the Abrahamic Covenant, apart from coming to Christ!

[@dontbeadrone]

I can't tell you how stupid you and everyone who still waves the "Khazar" flag sound. The Khazar thesis was debunked long ago by dozens of DNA studies published in peer reviewed articles by reputable geneticists. All of this can be accessed online. Even America's Grand Wizard of antisemitism, David Duke, has jettisoned the stupid Khazar thesis, admitting that Ashkenazi Jews share paternal DNA that goes back to the Levant. So really, update your antisemitism, so at least you don't sound like an ignorant hillbilly.

[@JonJaeden]

That there are those who became Jews by covenant rather than bloodline is clear from Scripture: “Do not abhor an Edomite, for he is your brother. Do not abhor an Egyptian, because you lived as an alien in his country. The third generation of children born to them may enter the assembly of the LORD” (Deut. 23: 7-8). “‘Shout and be glad, O Daughter of Zion. For I am coming, and I will live among you,’ declares the LORD. ‘Many nations will be joined with the LORD in that day and will become my people’” (Zech. 2:10-11). After the Jewish exiles returned from Babylon, aliens were counted as native-born Israelites and receive their allotments among the twelve tribes: “‘You are to distribute this land among yourselves according to the tribes of Israel. You are to allot it as an inheritance for yourselves and for the aliens who have settled among you and who have children. You are to consider them as native-born Israelites; along with you they are to be allotted an inheritance among the tribes of Israel. In whatever tribe the alien settles, there you are to give him his inheritance,’ declares the Sovereign LORD” (Ezek. 47:21-23).

[@AnHebrewChild]

how can they who have no interest in the mediator of the covenant be children of the covenant?

[@michaelbergman6441]

Modern Israel is not the Israel of the Scriptures, No king, no temple, no sacrifices. Israel'sreal hope in not a new temple building, but faith in Messiah.

[@ftk-forthekingdomministrie7439]

Well done, Uncle.

[@cammo1397]

Thanks.

[@DaBigArmyDude]

“There is no more Jew or Gentile”. You’re either in Christ or not. Christ fulfilled the old covenant and established a new covenant. The special category of Jews before God was fulfilled in Christ’s death. The old covenant cannot be concurrently valid with the new covenant.

[@fe8199]

Thank you

[@joshhoodrat451]

Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. What happens to the “blindness” of Israel after “ the fulness of the Gentiles be come in” ? This verse leads me to assume , think , or speculate that God isn’t done with Israel ?

[@fiery_hunter3271]

History isn’t over. The completion of our Christ-likeness isn’t here yet, but it will be at the resurrection. What is going to happen between now and then? How will this be completed? As Paul seems to indicate, God isn’t done with Israel, or at the very least we should honor the physical descendants of Abraham, since they were entrusted with the Oracles of God. The Gospel came to the Jew first. Further, those Oracles of God were not penned in some sort of “spiritual language.” They were recorded in Hebrew and Koine Greek. This demands our recognition of the legitimacy of both the Jew and the Gentile.

[@asahelnettleton9044]

@@joshhoodrat451 Ultimately we don't know in detail how it will play out, but I was reading answers to some objections regarding certain non-dispensational eschatology, particularly as regards the future of Israel. The position (for reference Sam Waldron writing from an Amillenial perspective) was that the promises we see in Romans regarding the future of the Jews in God's purposes don't necessitate a full mass conversion to Christ at the end of the world, but may instead indicate a promise that, in every generation from now until the end, that Jews will be converted to Christ.

[@ManassehJones]

The Elect sons and daughters of God are spiritual Israel. Clearly the "seed of Abraham" IS the faith OF Jesus Christ, as Paul says, they are not all Israel who are of Israel." The promise is to "all families of the earth," meaning of every kind of people. The Elect, the "seed of Abraham," which is the faith OF Christ, is the "righteousness of God" imputed to Elect men from all nations and tribes, both Jew and Gentile, for "there is no difference." To pray for "the chosen people" is to pray for the Elect, both Jews and Gentiles, NOT the physical seed, but the spiritual seed, which is the faith OF Jesus Christ, whom God has chosen before the foundations of the world.

[@sanders194539]

The star of david is not in the Bible, but the star of Remphan is and God condemned the Jews for worshipping it. The star of david has 6 points, 6 triangles, and a hexagon (6).

[@acky6174]

Where is this at in the Bible?

[@sanders194539]

@@acky6174 Acts 7:43 and Amos 5:26

[@theauthor8901]

Pastor Doug, a masterful handling of this truth! May the Lord bless build His Church, Jew and Gentile alike. And may the Lord bless you, dear shepherd, thank you.

[@JS-ix6zt]

Saying they are Jews by covenant is like saying Muslims are Christian’s by covenant because they claim Jesus as a profit. If they believed Moses they would believe Jesus. The covenant goes through Pentecost not through the Talmud in babylon

[@AnHebrewChild]

BINGO.

[@jamesandhannahmanderino3665]

People can reject Moses and accept the old covenant, hence the original people who did accept it wandered 40 years in the wilderness and all died.

[@leadinged]

Muslims don't even show up on the radar as any bible believers of any kind. They are just like Hindus or Buddhists. Mohamed was a pedophile and created a cult using a few jewish phrases. Jews at least have the old testament and then we cannot deny that miracle after miracle through the ages they have been guided to where they are now. Blessing and wrath of God brought them to today. Even the 2 main wars fought in 1967 and 1973 were a miracle that they won. Impossible in the natural. God said he would scatter them and the sword would follow them and then he would bring them back. That has been their story. Now the question is - how do we handle this. They are not saved but God is protecting them.

[@paulmackinnon9936]

This is a false analogy - The only reason Jesus' name appears in Islam is a satanic attempt to discredit Him. They depend on Him for precisely nothing, unlike a proselyte who binds himself to the Torah

[@jmcclure55]

Excellent

[@fredanderson5278]

Well said.

[@kayorr2683]

I would love to hear more on this subject.

[@LauPineda]

You have no idea how much help this is! I can't wait for further thought on the subject. As always, thank you very much, Mr./Pastor/ Wilson! (I have no idea how to show respect in English. I am Hispanic and we use titles for appreciated people to show respect.)

[@fiery_hunter3271]

Either “Mr.” or “Pastor” is okay in English. Using “Pastor” is only more specific. Personally, I might call him “Mr. Wilson”, because I reserve the title “Pastor” for my pastor in my own local church. It isn’t required to be that way, though.

[@kate60]

I think he likes Doug

[@fiery_hunter3271]

@@kate60 this is true 😅

[@JonJaeden]

@@fiery_hunter3271 So Mullah of Moscow goes too far?

[@fiery_hunter3271]

@@JonJaeden I hadn’t heard that one 😂

[@timharris2291]

So... I guess if the Khazars could become Hebrews by "covenant" (meaning, circumcision?), I guess just anyone still can, even today, right?

[@LifeEternalAlways]

Nice, well said big bro

[@kingleonidas6352]

I love and support anyone who is in Yeshua/Jesus. Having said that the nation/bloodline/jews are NOT the chosen people anymore. They need to be born again. I support freedom and the spreading of the Gospel. I do not support terrorism or terrorists.

[@LorinPartain]

If God doesn't honor Israel, outside of Christ, then why should we ?!?!

[@goyonman9655]

Wilson is a Judaising heretic His grandchildren from his son are jews, as his son married a jewess

[@jeremyrothrock6163]

I'm a little torn by praying to hasten the grafting back in of the olive branches considering that it would hasten the coming of Christ. Maybe we can provoke them to jealousy a little while longer so that Jesus is magnified even more by His grace. Then again, who am I to say to the potter what to do with the clay. Prayers for the Jews while I pray that my time here is redeemed to do the things pleasing to our Lord.

[@steventhury8366]

"Judeo-Christian" = oxymoron

[@Bmwguy2011]

The Jews are God’s Chosen People and as Christians, we should and must love them, carrying a latent burden to show them the true Messiah.

[@goyonman9655]

And they have rejected God. Christians are the elect and are people of God Stop with the Judaizing

[@SolidRock92]

Are you dispensational? God's chosen people are believers under the new covenant, regardless of ethnicity. The church, made up of both J-ws and Gentiles (which really isn't a thing any longer - Ephesians 2:12-16; Galatians 3:26-29) is the new covenant, chosen holy nation - 1 Peter 2:9 "But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God’s special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light." We are the new covenant "Israel of God" (Galatians 6:12-16). Learn what the Word of God teaches and come out of dispensational heresy.

[@Bmwguy2011]

@@SolidRock92 I will ignore all of the accusations, insults and nonsense allayed at me in here. But yes, I’m a radical post Calvinist, pre-tribulation, Zionist. dispensationalist, and finally found the truth.

[@SolidRock92]

@@Bmwguy2011You mean a heretic who has apostatized from the true, historical orthodox Christian faith of the Bible. You haven't found the truth, but have found a place of comfort that soothes your conscience all while you are rejecting the gospel and Christ. Do not call yourself a Christian with your post-Calvinist nonsense.

[@Bmwguy2011]

@@SolidRock92 so you’re telling me that I’m not a Christian and am a heretic? Do you have wood at the stake too? You’ve never met me and if you you wish to even vaguely comport with scripture, you’d be wise to refrain from treating other Christians like this. I hated Calvinists’ worship of John Calvin and their disdain, even outright hatred, of Jewish people. It is impossible to be a born again Christian and hate the authors of the Bible, the Savior and worship a man, in this case Calvin.

[@robertlewis6915]

I hold that it's better to hate Israel than idolize it (as I think some people do), but hate of Israel can become itself an idol and is besides wrong morally.

[@lukedornon7799]

Idolization is not 'more sinful' than hate. Sin is sin.

[@erikgriffith8857]

@@infinitystone6421 It depends on what you hate.

[@lukedornon7799]

@@infinitystone6421 See 1 John 2:11, 1 John 3:15, Matt 5:22, etc.

[@Th3BigBoy]

The fear of the Lord is to hate what God hates. there is a context to this issue that you are both ignoring. I won't reply.

[@robertlewis6915]

@@lukedornon7799 I hold that worshipping a false god is worse than hate. I also hold that hate (when not properly directed) is evil. If you want, just take it as me being irritated by premillenial dispensationalism. If you want to listen, though, remember that you can go to heaven despite hating somebody; you can't go to heaven worshipping a false god.

[@sennest]

Well said!

[@seanmoore9713]

What covenant are today's Jews still in?

[@jachinputnam7459]

The New Covenant. If, however, you're referring to Rabbinic Jews...they are also under the New Covenant, they just don't recognize it and are following a false religion.

[@eddietor_cine]

I think a good conversation you should have is with a Seventh day Adventist leader. Recommending John Bradshaw the host of It Is Written. Very balanced. You’d have a great conversation

[@ryanfoster4177]

At about 7:45 he gets it wrong. You can literally draw a straight line from Talmudic Judaism to zionism to bolshevikism and to communism and communisms subsequent "isms" either doug is uninformed here (which i hope is the case) or he is being disingenuous.

[@--i-am-root]

There's a direct line in development of thought? (aside from Zionism, which is obvious) He conceded that Solzhenitsyn was right about who the Bolsheviks were. But I don't know the evolution of thought from The Talmud to the Communist Manifesto.

[@Connnacht]

Tikkun Olam. It's their job to tell us how to live, cause they know better somehow

[@jimhughes1070]

You know there is the slightest possibility, however remote, that you might be wrong 🤣🤣... While there are 7 and 1/2 billion evil people on the planet... It is a very small elite group of truly evil bastards that run the show and conduct the wars... THAT is a fact... The earliest Russians were basically Vikings!...(we all know how they love their kings and dictators) 🤣🤣

[@ryanfoster4177]

@@--i-am-root yep Talmud to zionism to communist manifesto look it up

[@markmeyer6729]

What straight line? Marx specifically rejected all religions.

[@TimeToFlush]

7:52 "You can't really draw a straight line from that to various modern ills..." We better. Don't tell your kids you can't do this or won't do this for them. Their future is being replaced with a diabolical one. This is not the result of some magic. It is the result of our negligence. We better figure it out.

[@harbinger6753]

Thank you for adding this. Pastors had better get serious about addressing this question, they are running out of time to do so credibly. Without a proper Christian response that takes on jewish overrepresentation, privilege, and supremacy in the wider culture, there will be a decidedly unChristian reaction. Doug should read Luther's great tract on this problem and attempt to answer the question of why the same complaints are made today, and what should be done instead of Luther's proposed remedies.

[@Buttersaucee3]

“Judeo-Christianity” is oxymoronic and doesn’t exist. The extent of the support we should be giving to Israel is loving and praying for our enemies like we’re commanded to do in Matthew 5:44. It’s not vitriolic, or any other buzzword, to acknowledge that modern day Israel is theologically and morally bankrupt and poses a very large threat to the world.

[@jeffcooper9363]

I hold the same view as Doug, and have been accused of being a rabid supporter of "Replacement Theology". Some of our Brethren choose to act emotionally rather than rationally. I suppose that will give us something to discuss as we 'pass the time away' in heaven😎

[@gsmiro]

Great summary and Biblical analysis of the “Jewish Question”!

[@samdushukyan9595]

There was much skipped over concerning that question

[@biosci777]

Awesome analogy!

[@LTDLimiTeD1995]

I'm just tired of footing the bill for their wars while people in our own nation starve, and my nieces were born owing the government 100, of thousands of dollars due to such spending.

[@tomrestajr]

How do we define, 'the Israel of God?' [Galatians 6:16] Is Enoch part of it? Enoch was born before Shem, Jacob/Israel, and Judah (and Moses and Elijah).

[@tjh4619]

the "Jews" unlike the Messianic Jews, such as I, do need Jesus and will fully be accounted to Father God when the time comes, as you grafted in Christians, that worship Paul(Jewish) will account to a Jewish Jesus. I love your teachings.

[@harbinger6753]

I think Paul just called messianic jews the judaizers

[@geraldredlinger8741]

@@harbinger6753 no he didn't

[@harbinger6753]

@@geraldredlinger8741 yes he did

[@justanotherbaptistjew5659]

@@harbinger6753 Those who required circumcision and adherence to dietary laws were Judaizers.

[@tjh4619]

@@harbinger6753 my type of Messianic Jew loves Jesus

[@yourfriendlyneighborhoodin1559]

The number of miracles that took place in order for the Jewish people to reestablish themselves as a nation is truly unavoidable. Just studying World War I and World War II alone. Blows my mind. I don't know what God has planned for the Jews but he is not done with them. Matthew 23:37-39 ESV - “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to it! How often would I have gathered your children together as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, and you were not willing! See, your house is left to you desolate. For I tell you, you will not see me again, until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.’”

[@harbinger6753]

Ah, yes miracles like the deaths of 100 million Christian men, the firebombing of Dresden, atomic holocaust of Nagasaki and Hiroshima, 70 years of communism, the holodomor, the enslavement of the world to international bankers, the genocide of palestinians... Count your blessings!

[@robreich6881]

What the hell are you talking about? I mean seriously, comments like this make me question people’s sanity. The number of “miracles” it took for Serbian Nationalism to be successful in the end is also pretty involved, but why make so much of the one but not the other?

[@yourfriendlyneighborhoodin1559]

@@robreich6881 Good luck.

[@harbinger6753]

@@robreich6881 christian zionists worship jews, there really isn't any reasoning with them

[@markmeyer6729]

Zechariah 12:10... not through yet.

[@bursebladesbits]

The Jews are not the Hebrews. They say so themselves. I read that in the Jewish Encyclopedia. True Israel is defined by Scripture: "For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave, nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise." Galatians 3:27-29 ESV (among many other references).

[@sam_the_davidson]

In the Puritan Hope, Iain Murray talks about the Postmillenialism of the Puritans was birthed out of an expectancy of revival among the Jews in the latter days.

[@djamilamarouf7027]

Hi I need help about this video & I really love you Doug but in this video im not sure if i really got it? Any chance to simply plz many thanks 😊

[@nojoethemistrucks]

Ages well.

[@peterparler3246]

Can we equate most of the Jews today with the sons of Abraham?

[@ReneAstorga]

amen.

[@tab207]

Remind me again which son of Noah had Ashkenaz as a grandson?

[@kyleighspencer6631]

Just remember that his son in law is Jewish, he's never going to criticize Israel or the Jewish people ever even if he knows better.

[@harbinger6753]

Thank you. Another commenter said Doug claims to be part j himself. The pieces begin to fall into place.

[@areyoutheregoditsmedave]

oh that makes sense. he doesn’t want to lose his connections (least charitable take) or he doesnt want to harm his daughter (most charitable take). but thats the thing abt protestants. they can interpret scripture in whatever way they want to justify anything. its silly. doug should talk to an orthodox scholar abt the modern jews.

[@JonJaeden]

@@harbinger6753 And look at the media and publishing empire he's building ... and he's in Moscow -- that's no accident. Doug's part of the Joooish conspiracy.

[@pilotandy_com]

Just two thoughts: 1. We are commanded to love everyone and to pray for them. 2. If God is on our side, who cares if anyone else is?

[@stegokitty]

Irrelevant thesis. You might want to try listening again.

[@--i-am-root]

The people in Rev 6:9-10 seem to care. Jesus in His earthly ministry cared. Elijah cared. Paul cared, as Doug referenced.

[@jgd8007]

I'm a bit tired of hearing "Judeo-Christian" values within the culture and media. I feel like "Islamo-Christian" makes more sense but still isn't Christian values.

[@goyonman9655]

It's a propaganda term

[@geneticsmatter3834]

If I'd known THIS topic was coming from Doug, I'd have been biting my nails for the last week. All must read Allison Weir's book, "Against Our Better Judgment: The hidden history of how the U.S. was used to create Ysrael". It is a short yet potent read, and exhaustively well-referenced.

[@kaylar3197]

@king fuqurmahmen I did not know that. Could you provide sources?

[@virtualpilgrim8645]

I also recommend the UNZ Review for eclectic articles by various authors regarding alternative interpretations of all sorts of current events and political movements

[@jeffcooper9363]

I have the book, and it explains a great deal about our foreign and domestic policies

[@justinthrift9603]

@king fuqurmahmen Good point... I am in state government (transportation - bridge/highway construction) and there is actually a STANDARD clause in our construction contracts where the winning low bidder must "pledge his fealty" to Israel, so to speak, as part of the deal. This has given me pause since the first time reading it.

[@asdfasdf3989]

​@@kaylar3197 Not the same thing, but look up anti-BDS laws.

[@jammystarfish]

I liked this analysis. Thanks Doug!

[@gaiusSatyr]

haha, love the final line !!

[@supersmart671]

Romans 2:28-29 28 A person is not a Jew who is one only outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical. 29 No, a person is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a person’s praise is not from other people, but from God.

[@acetreecare]

Galatians 3:25-29 (ESV): 25 But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian, 26 for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith. 27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to promise.

[@jachinputnam7459]

Doug, welcome to Christian Judaism! (Or Messianic Judaism as it's called these days). We're glad to have you. ;)

[@40ozhemlock]

I poured a beer for this one...