Bloodborne Fear the Old Lore - Yahar'gul & The One Reborn

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Last Protagonist

Last Protagonist

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In this episode of Fear the Old Lore, we examine Yahar'gul, the Unseen Village and The One Reborn.
I realize I forgot to mention mirrors, so for that I apologize. For those curious, there are a number of covered mirrors in various places throughout the village. Some have wondered if there's a connection between mirrors and accessing the Nightmare as Micolash travels between them in his fight. It's unclear if that can also be done in the waking world as well, or if the School used them to access the dream.
I probably should have also mentioned how the music in Yahar'gul seems to be part of the world since we can hear it change volume as we go above and below ground, or the chanting later being directionally attuned to the Advent Plaza or the red moon.
Anyway, I hope you enjoy the video.
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0:00 - Intro
0:16 - Yahar'gul, the School of Mensis, & the Mensis Ritual
1:39 - Transformations throughout the Town
3:00 - Beckoning the Red Moon
4:31 - The Ritual's Concealment
5:55 - Hidden Wordplay
6:26 - Yahar'gul & Nightmarish Rituals
7:28 - Voices to Beckon the Moon
8:40 - Mysterious Abductions
9:32 - Is Perception Reality?
10:34 - Pthumerians & Summoning the Dead
11:01 - Sacrifices & Nightmarish Experimentation
11:32 - Internal Filenames & Wild Speculation
12:25 - Similarities with an "Evil God"
13:00 - The One(s) Reborn?
14:00 - What Delivered them to Their Nightmare
14:29 - Remaining Mysteries
16:00 - Outro

Пікірлер: 218
@POW3RSAUC3
@POW3RSAUC3 3 жыл бұрын
The One Reborn is gonna be S tier in Bloodborne Kart.
@Nick.t.S
@Nick.t.S 3 жыл бұрын
True, but the unsung hero might be Ludwig with being seemingly unpredictable with his clunky appearance yet nimble move set. He’s going to be the Dry Bowser of Bloodborne Kart.
@crispybackwoods
@crispybackwoods 3 жыл бұрын
My money is on Gehrman. The speed he lacks going uphill he makes up for going downhill.
@invincibleunderthesun8545
@invincibleunderthesun8545 3 жыл бұрын
Nah he prolly drives a 2001 Oldsmobile Alero. Micolash drives a V8 engine swapped turbocharged Miata.
@d.robinson6262
@d.robinson6262 2 жыл бұрын
Mergo's wet nurse probably skates
@absolutelyshmooie7086
@absolutelyshmooie7086 2 жыл бұрын
But micolash has 876 speed!!!
@OrigamiPhoenix
@OrigamiPhoenix 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to have learned the Brain of Mensis has 75 eyes and the Amygdala 68.
@blarg2429
@blarg2429 3 жыл бұрын
I'd be happier if the Amygdalae had one more.
@PunkZombie1300
@PunkZombie1300 3 жыл бұрын
@@blarg2429 nice
@ghostrhythm
@ghostrhythm 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of eyes on the outside and the outside
@redreboot483
@redreboot483 Жыл бұрын
@@blarg2429 the 69th one is in the... "inside"
@Taxolia
@Taxolia Жыл бұрын
​@@blarg2429 Hallo Blarg you gonna fly plane into tower?
@maxresdefault7047
@maxresdefault7047 3 жыл бұрын
Rom using illusions to conceal the true state of Yharnam parallels Darkmoon Gwyndolin using illusions to conceal the true state of Anor Londo in Dark Souls.
@jacobhoover1654
@jacobhoover1654 9 ай бұрын
Lots of other similarities too. In DS1 & Bloodborne, if you go back to the starting area you get an item that unlocks a secret frozen area of exiles.
@Mojj2099
@Mojj2099 2 ай бұрын
@@jacobhoover1654haven’t gotten far in dark souls 1 but does this relate to cainhurst ?
@bandiriatraveler8343
@bandiriatraveler8343 3 жыл бұрын
God, the Brain of Mensis still disturbs me to this day. Never noticed the similarities between it and an Amygdala though, amazing insight right there.
@haizuru1
@haizuru1 3 жыл бұрын
Disturbs you? What, you don't have one of those as a pet? :P
@derigel9783
@derigel9783 3 жыл бұрын
*You gained 1 Insight*
@motazfawzi2504
@motazfawzi2504 2 жыл бұрын
You would've been to scared to notice them.😂
@Kucoz
@Kucoz 3 жыл бұрын
The glowing skeletons emit the same light as items. I always saw that as a sign that they were put there to attract hunters. Like our version of pungent blood cocktails
@kewldude23xx
@kewldude23xx 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah , like mosquitoe zappers lol , in my first playthrough I felt for them and insisted that there was something I could gain from them but always died
@Alex-hp2rs
@Alex-hp2rs 3 жыл бұрын
The one reborn does kind of look like a makeshift amygdala when you look at it that way, 2 long arms and then a couple spider like legs at the rear. Stick the brain of mensis where the dude on top is and boom giblet amygdala.
@trey2099
@trey2099 3 жыл бұрын
When I met The One Reborn, I thought it was an amalgam of the citizens from the Unseen village, as a result of Mensis starting the dream. Splitting their bodies and minds. Their bodies would stay to create The One Reborn and their minds would be brought into the dream forming the brain of Mensis. They created abominations because they could not successfully integrate mind and body. This is somewhat similar to Hunters seeing everyone as beasts and night terrors. In a night terror your brain is still fully connected from REM sleep, but you're awake. As such, your right hemisphere projects terrors into the "waking world" (from personal experience floating specters, squid like creatures, spiders ) and your left brain perceives them as reality.
@suigetsuh17
@suigetsuh17 10 ай бұрын
Your theory makes a lot of sense 👍
@CheckUnderYou
@CheckUnderYou 6 ай бұрын
This.
@Jambiiiii
@Jambiiiii 5 ай бұрын
I like this theory but I believe the brain of mensis wasn’t created from this, I’m pretty sure it already existed within the nightmare and they found it there.
@dylanroemmele906
@dylanroemmele906 4 ай бұрын
I think this is wrong since it's clear the mensis ritual has already happened because of Mensis Mummies scattered around Hypogean Gaol before the Paleblood sky. The one reborn seems to be a Pthumerian ritual and we stumbled upon it right as it was happening. There are completely seperate.
@Deadman_Elit3
@Deadman_Elit3 2 ай бұрын
What you said about being partially dreaming lines up with what Djura says. "I no longer dream..." and "they're not beasts, they're people. One day, you will see" Maybe him being fully out of the hunters dream, he sees them differently. Then again, he still refers to them as beasts, so who knows, really?
@haizuru1
@haizuru1 3 жыл бұрын
_"Ah, protag, or some say protagonist. Do you hear our comments? As you once did for the monetized KZbin; Grant us lore, grant us lore! Grant us, looooooooohrreee!"_ XD
@azzlackguhnter5635
@azzlackguhnter5635 5 күн бұрын
Plant lore onto our screens to cleanse us of our beastly idiocy!
@blubb1177
@blubb1177 3 жыл бұрын
Phenomenal, feels like i gain eyes on the inside by watching your videos
@LexIconLS
@LexIconLS 2 жыл бұрын
100% I'm in on this theory.
@TheMalici0usM0nk3y
@TheMalici0usM0nk3y 3 жыл бұрын
I always had a bit of a Headcanon that The One Reborn somehow represented Kos and the Orphan. I could never really find any lore vids about The One, so this was a treat. Love the Fear the Old Lore series!
@tahaelhour690
@tahaelhour690 3 жыл бұрын
Kos and the orphan are weird, very weird. Kos, has a human face and human arms. And the orphan has Gherman's voice. (When he cries in pain in the cutscene and when you stagger him)
@BeccaBuckLebowski
@BeccaBuckLebowski 3 жыл бұрын
@@tahaelhour690 Maybe it's worth a thought to separate Kos' actual child and the creature we meet as Orphan of Kos. Didn't LastProtagonist mention in another video, that the word orphan somehow could have been translated as dying will/wish. Maybe this last will, this wrath of Kos manifested itself in the shape of that one person, Kos associates most with the loss of her child?
@tahaelhour690
@tahaelhour690 3 жыл бұрын
@@BeccaBuckLebowski yes, further evidence is that the doll says that Gherman's finally sleeping in peace after so long. It may even be why he's crying in his sleep. Even in a dream he has nightmares wtf.
@Jasonmakesvideo
@Jasonmakesvideo 3 жыл бұрын
Fromsoftware has always been about their parallels of parallels to the most meta interpretation on the game as a whole
@HyTricksyy
@HyTricksyy 3 жыл бұрын
Complete conjecture here: Since an amygdala is a part of the brain, and considering that a) the one reborn is summoned right next to the host the nightmare's body, and b) the nightmare might be bleeding into Yahargul's physical location, that Mensis managed to create the brain within the nightmare and was trying to manifest it physically in Yahargul to then attach it to the one reborn, therefore "completing" it? As to why, maybe to create a great one that could then be controlled by them with the help of the pthumerian summoners?
@thejokercjdr
@thejokercjdr 3 жыл бұрын
It works the other way around apparently, given what happens to most of Byrgenwerth and Loran: the nightmare doesn't spill into reality, reality gets sucked into the nightmare. Also, given the location of the one reborn, just outside the chapel were the School of Mensis' members' corpses are, it's most likely the One Reborn just serves as some sort of golem, a guardian made to protect those in the Nightmare of Mensis from any interferance from the outside world, given life as part, or a byproduct of the ritual to create the Nightmare of Mensis itself. As for the Brain of Mensis, it is an actual Great One who has been enslaved and abused by the School of Mensis for their own purposes, which is one of the themes of Bloodborne: many item descriptions mention the Great Ones are "sympathetic in spirit", willing to help humans trascend with their cosmic knowledge in order to obtain their "surrogate"; however, humanity always sucumbs to ambition and their beastly nature, and the Great Ones end up paying a price, too, which is what happens to the Brain of Mensis, who just minds its own business, but given the brain damaging nature of its very presence, it is enslaved as yet another protective measure against anyone trying to reach Mergo to end the Nightmare.
@AzizSketches
@AzizSketches 2 жыл бұрын
@@thejokercjdr i read once as well that the one reborn is a failed task to create a moon presence because as we seen he come from the moon while flora is the moon as well, and maybe the phumarians help the school to awake mergo to retrieve thier greatness they once had until yharnam lost her child and they lost the great ones interest, mergo woke up as well as yharnam who heared her baby crying, mayhe losing her child is the reason she is captured deep within the chalice and tied up, i feel this theory is very close to the truth, but damn the school and the phumarians they did so much crimes in the price of humans and a mother and her child.
@Schix
@Schix 3 жыл бұрын
You’re content is CRIMINALLY underrated, sir. I’ve been a massive Bloodborne fan for a while now and between your translation videos and the cut content being revealed I’ve learned so much more about a game I love six years after the fact.
@theravensfalling
@theravensfalling 3 жыл бұрын
fuck. yes. time to sit back, relax and enjoy these bomb ass videos
@trevinsingh9390
@trevinsingh9390 3 жыл бұрын
For some reason, I have a strong feeling is The One Reborn is a combination of Orphan Kos and the many dead bodies found basically everywhere. Maybe the merging with all of those sacrificed with a Great One but fallen from the Old Hunter's nightmare is why it looks that way. I think that The One Reborn was called a failure because the soul of the Orphan remained in the Old Hunter's nightmare. And since Berserk was a strong influence on Bloodborne, the ritual could be similar to that of the Eclipse where people are sacrificed to demons during the ritual hence why there are multiple Amygdala that can actually kill other enemies in Yahar'gul.
@Colkadome12
@Colkadome12 3 жыл бұрын
Behind the gate to the 2nd part of yahargul you can see all these petrified people who were trying to escape over the wall. I reckon when the moon came down it started transporting the people with cages but was killing everyone else
@revthescatman137
@revthescatman137 3 жыл бұрын
I just realized the irony of the plague in yharnam. In a way, those afflicted with the plague is technically a twisted form of evolution that the healing church and school of mensis has been looking for
@MegaBlair007
@MegaBlair007 3 жыл бұрын
The glowing skeletons in Yahar'gul are very similar to the "make contact" statue in Upper Cathedral Ward. The statue emits the "fire" sound when you come close, despite there being no visible fire effect. It also appears to glow with an unnatural light. Moreover, you can only access Upper Cathedral Ward after exploring Yahar'gul (after the blood moon) and finding the key.
@jedgrahek1426
@jedgrahek1426 3 жыл бұрын
I have a strong sense that the entirety of the game is the Hunter's Dream/Nightmare (besides the opening scene with the old man and the "waking up" ending), and that we are seeing many events that may have played out far apart in time originally, but within the Dream everything is temporally amalgamated, so despite the various events in the Hidden Village and the rest of the game clearly taking place over a long period of time, we encounter them all simultaneously from our perspective of just having entered the Dream. Like, I would be really surprised if Willem was literally supposed to be chilling in his chair looking at the moon at the exact same time as an agent of the Choir was rummaging through the abandoned school, but from your, or the Dream's, perspective, all meaningful events from some point in time onward (after the College was abandoned, but while Willem was still around) get compressed. There are a ton of things that don't quite work with this theory, but it also accounts for a great many things in the game that are otherwise inexplicable.
@jacobhoover1654
@jacobhoover1654 9 ай бұрын
There's nothing to indicate that the player is jumping through time & no concrete proof the game is a dream.
@AS-dx3kw
@AS-dx3kw 3 жыл бұрын
I've always been interested in the bell maidens. They appear to have the ability to summon things from other dimensions - players, enemies, freaking spiders. I truly love your explanation about how the sound works in Bloodborne as a media of arcane. Therefore, if these maidens are Pthumerians and they're trying to summon a thing back to life it could very much be Mergo - the son of the Queen of Pthumerians. This is definitely not an original idea but somehow it is canon in my head since Mensis scholars need a newborn to complete the ritual but Mergo had turned into a stone in reality, they could join forces with the maidens for the same goal. But, it still doesn't explain who "The One Reborn" truly is. The ritual was performed a long time ago according to the mummified bodies of Mensis scholars, and Mergo had already been taken into the nightmare after its reborn by the maidens. So TOR could be simply a mere shell of corpse pile, a guardian, to stop the intruders when they are too close to the Advent Plaza.
@AzizSketches
@AzizSketches 2 жыл бұрын
Or maybe a failed attempt to made a moon presence
@jimijenkins2548
@jimijenkins2548 8 ай бұрын
The bell ringing women have the ability to beckon bodies between worlds, perhaps they were trying to beckon the mind of a great one into a body made by the Mensis Scholars and kidnappers. The best candidates are Mergo, or the Moon Presence. Personally, I think it's the moon presence.
@edt1201
@edt1201 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Yahar'gul is always unsettling no matter how many times I play through the game. Knowing that much of it remains a mystery even to lore scholars makes it that much more spooky.
@danielluisceronpereira3343
@danielluisceronpereira3343 3 жыл бұрын
Look at the statues in the pathway before the advent plaza, people were “sucked” into the One Reborn, probably
@bluenovacorgi8230
@bluenovacorgi8230 Жыл бұрын
I was wondering what those were there for ....so interesting
@professor7269
@professor7269 3 жыл бұрын
I love how you present the differences on the translation. As an English teacher and a fan of the game, I find these videos interesting and well done.
@littlenimrod3373
@littlenimrod3373 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, your theory about Rom just CONCEALING the red moon and the overall state of the world is groundbreaking. Because everyone else thinking that Rom’s death just triggers the red moon to rise and this gives more questions than answers. But your theory opens entirely new fresh look to what actually happens in the game. Thank you so much
@trollzland1337
@trollzland1337 2 жыл бұрын
I believe that when the red moon descended, the corpse beasts and cramped caskets and all of that suddenly kicked into motion and "came to life" so to speak, and started slaughtering the kidnappers en masse as retribution for what was done to them. I don't have any other explanation for why the kidnappers would all be dead in droves like that, and both the positioning of some of those caskets and the way we can still witness them breaching their confines drives me to believe this.
@condyveelad2023
@condyveelad2023 3 жыл бұрын
I strongly support the idea that the One Reborn is somewhat related to Kos. The main body (the one that is on top) reminds me of the Orphan of Kos while the rest of the body, or bodies, make out a huge mass which sort of resembles Kos herself? Maybe the whole purpose was to recreate Kos or her child instead. But I don't understand why Yharnams populace would be used for something like this in the first place. Maybe the One Reborn was just a failed experiment and then the whole school moved on to something else, like Mergo.
@qwertyuiop42385
@qwertyuiop42385 3 жыл бұрын
The Amygdala are kind of like angels in a way, they have wings of blood and act as messengers for the gods (great ones). Since there's so much Catholic stuff in Bloodborne, maybe The One Reborn is supposed to be a kind of macabre Jesus?
@blarg2429
@blarg2429 3 жыл бұрын
The word "Jesus" certainly does come to mind when I see it, albeit not how you mean. Could be true.
@core-nix1885
@core-nix1885 2 жыл бұрын
This is on the money (the angel bit). Their JP name is "Amendozu" which no-one has been able to decipher, I think it means A. Mendoza, as in Angel Mendoza (from Pynchon's "V.") The initial 'A' is a reference to The A-shaped Meteor from The Scarlet Letter (see also: "Bloodletter (weapon)"), in the book, it symbolises 'adultery' but gets interpreted as 'angel' by the masses.
@jimbob7572
@jimbob7572 2 жыл бұрын
@@blarg2429lmao that’s funny
@thetrueconnoisseur
@thetrueconnoisseur 3 жыл бұрын
I don't interpret the chime maidens as working for Mensis. I buy into the idea that they're attracted to spaces where the boundaries of the universes overlap.
@CommieApe
@CommieApe 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! the hypothesis that the Brain is an attempt at an Amygdala has merit and is worth remembering. The difference between the One Reborn and its japanese name was an interesting find as well.
@iWillWakeYouUp
@iWillWakeYouUp 3 жыл бұрын
Good connection between the weird face-shaped growths in the Nightmare of Mensis and the petrified/fused people in Yahar'gul. I thought the same thing.
@rangda_prime
@rangda_prime 3 жыл бұрын
Hot take and Theory of Everything: The Mensis Ritual makes the Moon Presence/Flora/Paleblood Great One give birth to The One Reborn. The One Reborn was intended to be a man made Great One, with the bodies of the kidnapped humans as the physical raw material and the minds of the Mensis scholars as the "brain". Since everything in BB exists in a dual capacity, having bodies in the Waking/physical world and the Dreamlands/Nightmare/Spiritual world, any true great being would need to have and existence in both worlds. It is noted in several places that Great Ones can die in the physical world without being destroyed, their minds residing in the Nightmare. So, the school of Mensis wanted to ascend and figured out a number of rituals that would allow them to accumulate enough power an materials to construct their own artificial Great One. The ritual using Mergo to lure the catalyst of it all, the Moon Presence Great One. The ritual to transfigure and mould the inhabitants of Yahrnam into a body similar to that of an Amygdala. The ritual in the Nightmare to tranform their own minds into the Brain of Mensis. The similarities to the One Reborn and the Brain of Mensis to the Amygdala could imply that either this has been done before, that the Amygdala are Great Ones constructed by mortals in the past, or that they simply are the inspiration or blueprint the Mensis shcolars aimed to imitate. The Moon Presence of course does NOT like being used like some cosmic incubator for pesky mortals and subsumes the Hunter's workshop with its crew to try and stop these machinations, or to at least get revenge and kill the twisted offspring coming from this hubris of Mensis. This explains the fact that there were hunters before the Church, and why there's been special hunters connected to the Dream before the events of the game. Someone apparently tried to beckon the Moon presence before, but they were stopped with the intervention by Dream fueled hunters burning Old Yharnam to the ground. Willem does not approve of Micholash's plans and this is why he beckons the player character to find Rom and reveal the true nature of the world, so the player can proceed and intervene. Willem, unlike Laurence and later on Micolash is very vary of the Great Ones and seems to take a more philosophical approach to mankind's limitations, preferring a personal path to enlightenment that is not as direct. What do you think?
@aidengreen4663
@aidengreen4663 3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts: We see the bodies of the inhabitants frozen into stone all through The Unseen Village. Does this imply that some other bodies were used or were they transported to Mergo's dream like Micolash was and transformed there? When I saw the similarities between an Amygdala and the Brain, my assumption was that it was the experimented upon head of an Amygdala that the School captured. It could been the Brain is a result of some of Micolash's cult tried to fuse their minds into an Amygdala and then merge that with the One Reborn. I always saw the Amygdala as not being Great Ones but rather some kind of creature related to the Messengers that are able to travel from the Dreams and back, and may be native to the Nightmare Frontier. The Church and School believing them Great Ones could be a case of mistaken identity.
@walkerbragg284
@walkerbragg284 Жыл бұрын
Holy shit the brain of mensis meant to be used as the head for the one reborn is my head Canon now! It makes so much sense and fits the story perfectly. When I heard this theory I gained insight.
@deliriushunter
@deliriushunter 3 жыл бұрын
What if someone who had the insight, told the school of Mensis about the amygdala everywhere in yahar'gul. The School of Mensis surely was interested in finding new great ones (maybe for even more blood), but they couldn't see the amygdala, so they asked the person who could see them, how they looked and from that they tried to build statues and kind of "worshipped" them. But they wanted to see them, so they tried to create one, they had the brain and the "body", maybe they werr really close, but then the hunter appears and wants to mess with the mensis ritual. And so they rather sacrificed their great project in order to stop you from reaching it. But the creature wasn't ready and because of that it was this "failed" being.. just some thoughts, i think yahar'gul and the one reborn are one of the most interesting things in bloodborne, Same goes for the amygdala
@BeccaBuckLebowski
@BeccaBuckLebowski 3 жыл бұрын
So, could it be, that every Great One is rather some creature (human or alien species), that ascended to Greatness, rather than being truely born as a Great One. Since "every Great One loses it's child"... or maybe ability to birth children (since they are so incredibly unique in shape)? Kind of an interesting thought for me... just have to figure out, how the umbilical cords fit into that... but since these aren't literal umbilical cords... hmm. 🤔
@gg2fan
@gg2fan 2 жыл бұрын
The best explanation I've ever heard is that the Great Ones are the absolute pinnacle of biology and evolution, so having children the conventional way is impossible because the only way to go is down. It's not possible for their children's DNA to surpass theirs, so the ONLY mutations and changes that happen (as happens in every conception, the DNA is written slightly differently leading to new mutations, you're not just a clone of your parents) in the process of conceiving a fetus are complications that lead to stillbirth. This is what Miyazaki meant by 'due to their positions'. It's also based on his observations that more advanced beings like humans and whales have fewer children with more difficulty per child, with smaller beings like flies casually unleashing hundreds of newborn per litter, so it's that same idea extrapolated to a Lovecraftian scale- Cosmic great ones being functionally unable to have a child at all. It's a bit of a storytelling conceit but it's a really fun one, that once a being reaches the absolute peak of what natural biology is capable of creating, it's literally too perfect to have children because the only mutations that occur during reproduction are negative ones.
@saxogatley1166
@saxogatley1166 2 жыл бұрын
@@gg2fan it also plays into two major themes of Lovecraft’s work: breeding matters and to procreate is base and profane.
@kivsto8130
@kivsto8130 3 жыл бұрын
2:12 sexy pose
@chris_columbus445
@chris_columbus445 7 ай бұрын
I have actually never noticed that the yharnamites have their left arm elongated like the cleric beast. I have also never noticed the horns growing out of the bipedal beasts that use the spears. It’s so cool how much detail fromsoft puts in to their games even though you probably won’t notice it.
@BeamMonsterZeus
@BeamMonsterZeus Жыл бұрын
Queen Yharnam has had our backs this whole time. We stupidly walked into the clinic on our own volition and made ourselves a part of her tragedy.
@IMayOrMayHaveNot
@IMayOrMayHaveNot 2 жыл бұрын
I- I only just realized the Brain of Mensis is made out of millions of Messengers. That is very reminiscing of Winter Lanterns' heads.
@Matthias_F.
@Matthias_F. 3 жыл бұрын
There's never too much Bloodborne content! So happy there's still new content from passionate people!
@bunk-o2495
@bunk-o2495 3 жыл бұрын
I always assumed that the bodies and the resulting necromonsters were from the ritual that made the dream, or gave the dreamers access to it. I guess that could also be how the university was pulled in? but most of the cage corpses are facing the plaza, which stuck as similar to how all the little baby old ones will face towards Ebrietas regardless of where they are on the map
@dyllgood
@dyllgood 3 жыл бұрын
These lore videos are soo underrated. Great work!
@hugofontes5708
@hugofontes5708 3 жыл бұрын
Too much insight, turned into a jellyfish
@1Henrink
@1Henrink 3 жыл бұрын
I believe The One(s) Reborn is a form of defense. If you think about it, why are we being attacked? Even by Amigdalas? The other bell ladies always try to revive monsters that seems to be enchanted with some blood magic. The one the bring out the boss seem like a stronger version of those. The One Reborn seems to cover (come from) the red moon so it fells like it's a group effort at stopping the hunter from "knowing too much" and try to stop the rituals. As it is a revival of several people but focused as just one (maybe trying to resemble an Amigdala) it becomes the grotesque monster that it is. Made possible by the power of the red moon leaking nightmare into the real world.
@MegaBlair007
@MegaBlair007 3 жыл бұрын
The one reborn was summoned from a different plane. He was in the nightmare all this time. In Mergo's loft, there are huge, empty spaces. It's so large that it even has a moving elevator catwalk to allow transportation between floors. Could it all be like a huge cage to keep it there, while having all sorts of movility facilitations to walk around it (mirror portals, holes in the floors above other floors, all the elevators are outside or around the place, etc)?
@TKDxxxward
@TKDxxxward 3 жыл бұрын
KZbin algorithm comment. This lore is so good. Wish you were doing this years ago so you would be much bigger
@SmileytheSmile
@SmileytheSmile 2 жыл бұрын
"Find the infant. Please stop its crying voice." Sounds like God's complaining about a very loud baby, that has been crying for hours and wouldn't let them sleep.
@GeneralKitten
@GeneralKitten 3 жыл бұрын
These videos really reignited my interest in bloodborne after a year or two of not playing it. I guess I have you thank for getting me to do a few more playthrough lol.
@Zeonis
@Zeonis 3 жыл бұрын
Its always been my personal theory that the One reborn is Orphan and kos fused together in a experiment gone wrong. The physiology looks so similar with the old man top half and the slug like bottom half. Seeing Orphan climb outside of Kos' womb really reinforces the connection they have, almost physical but certainly in soul. The One Reborn looks like a insane twist on it.
@Alex_the_Copper
@Alex_the_Copper Жыл бұрын
Oh shoot. A thought hit me watching this. The one reborn, what if that was two experiments being done. One was to revive an amigdala as well as an attempt to transplant humans into it to achieve higher understanding? The brain of Mensus could actually be the head of the one reborn. Looking it it the head looks like the head would be missing, maybe being controlled by the human grafted to the top like a morbid centaur.
@petecoyle8683
@petecoyle8683 3 жыл бұрын
Your Bloodborne content is easily my favourite on KZbin - phenomenal work!
@msalicekeys
@msalicekeys 15 күн бұрын
both the body of Kos and the Orphan we see in game is trapped in the nightmare that the Orphan upholds. It could make sense that they took that corpse of Kos to School of Mensis and used humans to try and resurrect the Great One?
@aquamarinemystique9641
@aquamarinemystique9641 3 жыл бұрын
Top-tier lore hunting. I also appreciate the video being segmented; it's highly academic.
@LexIconLS
@LexIconLS 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe your channel isn't more celebrated in the community. The translations of the Japanese version really clarify sooooo many things in the lore.
@aaronsalinas3854
@aaronsalinas3854 6 ай бұрын
Knowing that there are how many great old ones there are? It could have just been another one
@EditorJohn_TIRL
@EditorJohn_TIRL 3 жыл бұрын
All these years and gobs of different lore videos later, I still learn at least 3 new things watching on of your new vids. 👌🏼
@chelleolsen969
@chelleolsen969 2 жыл бұрын
Love this lore stuff!!! I would add that Mensis also has a linguistic connection to “menstruation”, connecting to both moon and blood. Just interesting!
@thevoideverwatching2723
@thevoideverwatching2723 3 жыл бұрын
It feels like the Amygdala, going off by how similar they seem and how numerous they are, are Beings of the Nightmare that are patterned off of a Great One. And that they somehow lead certain groups toward developing more of their own kind, perhaps modifying them upon ascending into the Nightmare.
@umukzusgelos4834
@umukzusgelos4834 2 жыл бұрын
Yahar Gul certainly is one of the most interesting locations in Bloodborne especially because of how dynamic it is Lore discussions about that topic are always fun, so thanks for this Analysis
@silent_hydra
@silent_hydra 3 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for this episode!!! Thank youuu!
@tahaelhour690
@tahaelhour690 3 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this. Also why is the left arm elongation a theme with beasthood? Even when you equip the beast embrace rune you get extra fur on your left arm.
@GeneralKitten
@GeneralKitten 3 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure in another video by LP he mentioned that it is likely in reference to the Left Hand Path, which is to say, the path of evil. It’s a long standing concept, primarily among worshippers of Abrahamic gods. Choosing to follow LHP essentially means you are willing to self actualize without regard for those around you, the ultimate selfishness. Personally I think this resonates with the healing church as a whole, walking a path of cruelty and abuse in an effort to comprehend something incomprehensible, and gain the power that comes with such knowledge.
@tahaelhour690
@tahaelhour690 3 жыл бұрын
@@GeneralKitten you know, as a muslim I feel stupid for not realizing this sooner. We have a similar thing. "Taking the book with the left hand" is synonym to entering hell. And taking it with the right is heaven.
@irgendeineperson5350
@irgendeineperson5350 3 жыл бұрын
@@tahaelhour690 Also the left arm is closer to the heart, for this reason it actually gets more blood.
@zerothehero123
@zerothehero123 3 жыл бұрын
This is a very common theme in japanese anime. A lot of the ghibli films have characters with a "corrupted" left arm.
@MastaShake99
@MastaShake99 3 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite video to date. Incredible stuff!
@libertyprime6932
@libertyprime6932 3 жыл бұрын
Love your content, really insightful and atmospheric 😊
@sanher20
@sanher20 10 ай бұрын
I'll try to expand on your ideas related to the rituals and their relationship with the Pthumerians. We don't know exactly what the ritual consists of but I think the game gives us enough clues to figure out a lot of things about it. 1. First we know what human body parts are necessary to do rituals. We know this by looking at items like ritual blood, bloodshot eyeball and yellow backbones which you obtain after killing the one reborn. 2. We use these body parts to open the Phtumeru chalice dungeon, the game doesn't show us what we do with the body parts but it tells us that they're required to fill a chalice to complete a ritual. 3. All the enemies in Yahar'gul besides the 3 hunters and the chime maidens are undead amalgamations of body parts including the one reborn. To me it looks like the game is trying to tell us that all these undead monsters are the results of many Mensis rituals and that is the aftermath, which can let us to conclude that the rituals consist of killing their prisoners, taking their body parts to create the chimeras monsters that we see on Yahar'gul and in the nightmare of mensis, we can reinforce this idea by looking at the yellow backbone that the one reborn drops, which implies that it was created through a ritual. Another interesting issue is regarding the connection between the Pthumerians and the scholars. Checking the items descriptions like the one you showed and items like the Pthumeru chalice can let us conclude that the Pthumerians are the ones who created the rituals and know how do to them since you need to do these rituals with body parts to access Pthumeru. To me it looks like the presence of the chime maidens is the game trying to tell us that they were the ones assisting the school of Mensis and the Healing church in doing the rituals since they're the ones who know how to do the rituals. Lastly another theory that just came to my mind is about the summoning of the one reborn, we know that chime maidens are capable of summoning beings from other worlds and as we can see the one reborn comes from a black pit and a dark sky. To me it looks like the game is trying to suggest that they summoned the one reborn from another location inside the game, this is difficult to prove but it could be that they summoned the one reborn from the nightmare of Mensis, more specifically from the shutter where the brain of Mensis is dropped. This could be proved if we can compare the texture of the sky in the nightmare of mensis and the texture in the black hole that summons the one reborn, that would let us conclude that the one reborn was summoned from the nightmare.
@zeitl0641
@zeitl0641 3 жыл бұрын
Started a new hunter to play alongside your first lore through. Loving the content man.
@topmoe6802
@topmoe6802 2 жыл бұрын
Boy, do I love this channel
@ryan94d16
@ryan94d16 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man thank you for all your hard work and all the time you put into these videos, they’re literally fantastic, it’s been so fun learning the literal translations :))
@user-jo2gv5zg6b
@user-jo2gv5zg6b 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video as usual
@djbeema
@djbeema 3 жыл бұрын
Haven't watched yet but very glad you chose this topic. One Reborn is by far the least-covered non-optional boss in the game
@Morraak
@Morraak 3 жыл бұрын
I always learn something new in your videos. Had no idea the townspeople had elongated left arms in yharnam.
@pheenmachine
@pheenmachine 3 жыл бұрын
About to watch! One of my favorite areas and bosses
@Knights_of_the_Nine
@Knights_of_the_Nine 2 жыл бұрын
Truly an incredible video
@franciscodelfierro8049
@franciscodelfierro8049 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always.
@wenderzxanthome1465
@wenderzxanthome1465 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Congratulations! The One Reborn was always a big question mark (and still kinda is) but I find your theory (which imo has enough basis to not be just a wild speculation) very satisfying. I'm a little surprised that you didn't bring up the different interpretation of the Living String JP description that you brought up in your streams, since I believe it could help your case on the Brain of Mensis. As in, not a Great One that was already there and "found" in the nightmare, but "gained" through some process. Also, kudos to mug for the similarities with textures of the amygdalas. Once again, good job!
@gage2189
@gage2189 Жыл бұрын
15:36 That looks like ebrietas if their head was not cut open
@johntrains1317
@johntrains1317 3 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic video
@sheolcodemonkey4027
@sheolcodemonkey4027 2 жыл бұрын
With the "failed to become" part of the One Reborn's name, and Bloodborne's heavy use of birth imagery (particularly perverted into something horrible), I wonder if it's supposed to refer to miscarriage, or even abortion. We do also get that reference to the School of Mensis which uses the words "resulting in the stillbirth of their minds", and while "mind" and "brain" aren't synonyms, they're certainly related, so I wonder if that's also relevant to the Brain of Mensis It looks kind of like they were trying to birth their minds into a Great One (looks like an Amygdala based on the "joshin" part) and had the ritual equivalent of a miscarriage, resulting in the stillbirth of their minds, perhaps creating the Brain of Mensis in the Nightmare of Mensis as well as resulting in the Amygdala they were trying to create coming out as the Great One equivalent of a stillborn child. This also does tie in with the whole thing of how every Great One loses its child, which I think means miscarriage Maybe the Nightmare of Mensis is the equivalent of a womb and the Brain of Mensis is the equivalent of an embryo. They perform the ritual (equivalent maybe of trying for a baby), implant their minds (equivalent maybe of gametes) into the Nightmare of Mensis (equivalent maybe of the womb) and form the Brain of Mensis (equivalent maybe of an embryo or zygote) and it gets miscarried (because all Great One babies do) resulting in the stillbirth of their minds (the One Reborn) Or maybe I'm reading too much into it. It's literally impossible to tell when it comes to Bloodborne
@I-VoidParadox-I
@I-VoidParadox-I 3 жыл бұрын
I just binged these a few days ago... wait a minute... You're putting these out right now?! I'm fuckin surprising
@theboynamedcrow1301
@theboynamedcrow1301 3 жыл бұрын
Just commenting to add an engagement. Great videos!
@TENGUartesmarciales
@TENGUartesmarciales 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome series to replay Bloodborne to 🙌🏻🙌🏻💪🏻
@freedomphillippe5602
@freedomphillippe5602 3 жыл бұрын
Literally started my newest playthrough this week and just got to the Unseen village. God what timing
@GenMVeers
@GenMVeers 3 жыл бұрын
The amount of *detail* in this game _still_ amazes me, 6 years after I first played it! 😮
@ZerolinGD
@ZerolinGD 3 жыл бұрын
this video made me understand a lot of stuff much better thanks :D
@jeromesears285
@jeromesears285 3 жыл бұрын
The School of Mensis was like Hogwarts, except Voldemort was Headmaster and the House of Slytherin were the only students.
@Ddizzle28
@Ddizzle28 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad this channel is young because nice onlymplayed bloodborne for the first time recently because my roommate got a ps5
@TheHammertime51
@TheHammertime51 3 жыл бұрын
Bloodbourne lore all these years later. It remains my favorite game I've never played. Xbox and mainly PC player.
@FyruHawk
@FyruHawk 3 жыл бұрын
i personally believe that the one reborn was the school of mensis trying to recreate mergo, as that is the "one" that they worship the most. i know a lot of people think it was the orphan of kos, but i dont feel it works, as the orphan was mostly something associated with master willem, and while it's possible that micholash was a student of willem, because of how disconnected the school of mensis is with the healing church, who're very disconnected from byrgenwerth, it feels less likely for the one reborn to be the orphan. and while micholash does mention kos, he also says kosm, and seems to have a revelation that it is instead the cosmos that ascended rom.
@dutchbannger6503
@dutchbannger6503 8 ай бұрын
Worth noting that micolash wishes for a brain lined with eyes to be elevated like rom. If they created the one reborn out of bodies, they would need to line its brain with eyes however beaing an animates corpse there wouldn't be a brain to line- as such them having a brain pre lined with eyes in waiting would be perfectly convinient - if only we didn't butcher both the brain and bodies 🤣
@ultimistakeo4369
@ultimistakeo4369 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, more insight (chuckles)
@waltercook3843
@waltercook3843 3 жыл бұрын
Well done!
@cobaltprime9467
@cobaltprime9467 2 жыл бұрын
Burgenworth sought to experiment on themselves, by trying to gain insight, evolving through their mind. Not worshiping, but understanding the gods. The knowledge that would elevate them. The Healing Church sought to help others through the Old Blood. And protect them from the plague and beasts. Choosing to evolve themselves through the blood and their own faith in the gods. The School of Mensus separated from the Church and experimented with both the blood and insight. On themselves… and others, including children. They became the ones closest to evolution. The One Reborn, to me, was the attempt to create their own Great One. Like they did with the other grotesque beasts made of random body parts. An experiment to make ONE from many. Ultimately failing as we kill it. We, as the Hunter, achieve what the other factions sought. And we do so through use of the Old Blood and Insight. Just as the School did. But there is a key difference. We enhance ourselves through Blood Echoes too. The essence of Great Ones. Once we consume the umbilical cords, we have the eyes inside us to see the true use of the Echoes, the ability to become a god. That is why the Moon Presence will kill the Hunter once it senses we have the power. And once it is slain, we gain its power and become the new master of Hunter’s Dream. By transforming into a baby Great One. The Doll becomes our mother, helping us as we had done before. Others will come to the Dream. Thus, we will continue as we had, hunt. I want a Bloodborne 2 so badly. Imagine the Hunter is the new Moon Presence Boss. But not the final boss. With the Hunt complete in Yahrnam, we hunt in a new place. We know others had come to the Church for Blood Ministration, if they left after… perhaps they accidentally create beasts in their homelands.
@evalopez1454
@evalopez1454 3 жыл бұрын
I was too busy during in the game that i couldn't even realize there was a story behind.... That game haste me and yet I keep playing.
@hermitcard4494
@hermitcard4494 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe YaharGul people were doing experiments on how to attach parts from one being onto another using many ways(physical, arcane, ect) to apply it to Great ones. Maybe they found an arcane way which was the best one which require one person making the spell and then a goo spread which made the people MERGE. The glue was slow enough so people could react to them and try to escape in panic. These leave their bodies "petrified" in terror, but made their souls merge with the chest skull tower, the human parts werewolf and even the Reborn. ¿????
@Strong_the_Panda
@Strong_the_Panda 3 жыл бұрын
Wack how little we know about bloodborne. This is why we need a PS1 bloodborne cart.
@Shockwing1
@Shockwing1 3 жыл бұрын
Wrafflore everytime a protag video drops :D
@n0denz
@n0denz 2 жыл бұрын
I recently had an idea that the Yharnam we play through, what seems to be the waking world is a mix the dream and of multiple realities. I base this theory on the following: First, we are never directly told how time and space function in this world. Unlike Dark Souls where the gameplay mechanics of respawning, enemies resetting, soapstone messages & phantoms all explained by the flow of time being uncertain, the closest we get to an explanation in Bloodborne is that we as hunters are dreaming. Like DS, I believe that the Dream justifies the gameplay mechanics as well as the inconsistencies in the world. Namely, we are able to respawn and reset the world from death as well awakening using Hunter's/Bold Mark because we are perceiving reality as a dreamer, but the dream space is the real world. The Hunter's Dream and Nightmare as well as the Nightmare of Mensis are real, physical locations. Just as someone's mind can travel to a nightmare e.g. the School of Mensis, we as prisoners of the Dream travel to the waking world. It's how we see the world though that is important. There are events that we witness that make the chronology difficult to piece together, but just as actual dreams shift seamlessly from one setting to another, no matter how ridiculous it seems when you think about it upon waking, in the dream it feels natural. Our dreaming minds provide or perhaps skip important pieces of logic that results in something that makes no sense when we try to apply real world logic. The same is true in Bloodborne. The night lasts forever if we don't act. Characters long dead exist alongside the living. Events that take place at different times co-occur. Think about how the red moon was present when Old Yharnam was torched. We witness what seems like a one-time ritual that is said to have happened in the past. Mensis beckoned the red moon, entered the Nightmare, and the city began to transform at a hitherto unseen rate. The note says that the ritual must be stopped, so how was it stopped when Old Yharnam was burned? I don't think it was. When we break the ritual seal, the Dream shifts us to events in the past. When we're in Old Yharnam, the city has been abandoned by people, yet the city is still smoking, and beasts' bodies are still burning on crucifixes. And Djura, an old hunter from a long gone heretical sect of hunters is standing guard. The chronology doesn't make sense because we are playing through a nonlinear narrative with no title cards that indicate the passage of time. From Djura's perspective, a hunter shows up, gets eaten up by his gattling gun, and that's that. Then just like the innumerable stone pillars visible from the Dream, we enter the world again to try another hand at reality, creating a divergent timeline while other hunters obscured from us are doing the same. In the ends, it comes to resemble a quilt of times and places; though the stitches are hidden. When we see the red moon appear, the Mensis ritual had started. When we go to Old Yharnam the first time, we are seeing the aftermath of the Mensis ritual. The red moon hung low, Yharnam was abandoned by the Healing Church, and Old Yharnam was burned to the ground. Time and place in these occasions don't always match. For instance, Old Yharnam doesn't appear to have been burned to ashes; we can walk through it and its standing buildings, yet from Djura's perspective, the place may be a wasteland.
@nickjanecke6688
@nickjanecke6688 Жыл бұрын
The little story that I concocted for myself with Yahar’gul and the One Reborn is that the School of Mensis was to Yahar’gul what the Healing Church is to Yharnam as a whole. By that I mean that much like the Healing Church presents itself as one thing to the general populace of Yharnam but is really another thing entirely the School of Mensis operates similarly in terms of its relationship to the populace of Yahar’gul. I say that because my interpretation of all of the bodies of citizens fused into the buildings and whatnot was that the populace of Yahar’gul was in some way sacrificed to bring about the coming of The One Reborn. I don’t really have any definitive evidence to back up my interpretation other than the fact that The One Reborn is comprised of this gross amalgamation of smaller humanoid bodies. And my interpretation of the School of Mensis as being akin to how the Healing Church operates has to do with the fact that the bodies of Yahar’gul citizens that are fused into the surroundings appear to be fleeing in terror. This implies to me that whatever caused their untimely ends happened suddenly and without warning. So even if the citizens of Yahar’gul knew that the School of Mensis was kind of a “rogue operation” in relation to the Healing Church, they still may have been misled or kept in the dark regarding the School of Mensis’ true intentions with their experiments. Again, much like the Healing Church does with the general populace of Yharnam. I realize that I’m not really backing up my interpretation with any concrete data, but I like it and think that it works (perhaps because there isn’t as much definitive information regarding Yahar’gul and The One Reborn). Anyways, I hope that if you see this comment you enjoy it and please feel free to give any feedback you might have. You produce great content, I’ve been getting a lot out of these examinations of the translations.
@alexsantiago3181
@alexsantiago3181 4 ай бұрын
Amazing and terrifying
@hawkwood9257
@hawkwood9257 3 жыл бұрын
Our Eyes are yet to open....
@ts25679
@ts25679 3 жыл бұрын
16:55 The Amygdala's head somewhat resembles a Mensis cage.
@old_boy9030
@old_boy9030 3 жыл бұрын
Two questions. First: if we allow for the assumption that the human-headed spiders in The Nightmare of Mensis are scholars of Mensis who were transformed, what then are we to make of their presence in certain Chalice Dungeons, as well as the existence of Patches, who resides not in Mensis but the Lecture Building, gifts the Tonsil Stone to the Paleblood Hunter, thereafter directing them to the church where the lesser Amygdala transports them to the Lecture Building and then the Nightmare Frontier towards the true Amygdala therein? Second: 11:39 are those Messenger corpses? I never noticed that before, nor can I recall anyone beforehand pointing that out. They are also on the underbellies of the tentacle slugs in the Nightmare Frontier, but I'm unsure if it's related to the Brain of Mensis
@sanfera5644
@sanfera5644 3 жыл бұрын
Here is a different interpretation. The one reborn's summoning gate weirdly aligned with the moon. And it is summoned by the pthumerian maidens. I don't know if it is good to make this connection but, in dark souls 3, vordt has its own portal and it is a complete and opaque sphere. If from software was paying attention to portal visuals, and based on how the one reborn just falls to the ground like a sack of potatoes instead of gracefully descending like amygdala, Here it comes. WHat if the one reborn, was not summoned correctly? Maybe only a certain part of it passed through the portal and it got damaged or warped into that. Or, Remember the cut content and the moon presence's similar but more pathetic body? There was a speculation about that cut tentacle thing. It was something like this, Old ones leave their earthly bodies to ascend into a higher plane. So their existence turns to something greater. And, with another bold guess, I would say the one reborn is or was an amygdala before it ascended or created as an old one. So these maidens managed to summon the... not the ascended version of amygdala but the husk it left behind. And it is like that. A husk. An inferior, pathetic being that even the creator of it left it. Sad, in a way.
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