Is The New Land Cruiser Worth The $15K Upgrade Over The 5th Gen 4Runner?

[@TRDJon]

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[@kidwelldavid6136]

I think the 4Runner looks better, and the dogs like it better.👍

[@Chucktro]

Jon I'm always impressed with how clean your door jams are. Something my pops made me do growing up on all our rigs, a good judge of how well someone cares for a vehicle. Love to see it!!

[@TRDJon]

Thanks man. Yep. You can really tell if somebody cares about their vehicle along with more from that simple glance

[@john450]

Thanks for the video. I have a 2019 Toyota 4Runner Premium and was considering a Land Cruiser. I watched a recent review "The Car Care Nut" did on the Land Cruiser and definately don't want one now. He pointed out it needs premium fuel and the rear cargo area can only hold 120 pounds since the battery is below. The vents near the rear doors also need to be kept clear. When I go camping, my 4Runner is packed to the roof so a weight limitation would not work for me. Had to add that to this video. I'll keep my tank! Enjoy your Land Cruiser.

[@TRDJon]

Vents keep clear? Also, that 120 lbs is refering to the panel that covers the little storage area I am 95% sure.

[@NomenClature-o8s]

@@TRDJon2021 Land Cruiser owner here. I want to like the new LC. I still May buy one. But there seems to be a lot of plastic in the interior, and it felt a little cheap. That includes the valance between the hood and the windshield. But the lockers, the look, the weight…all make me want one.

[@marktanner9543]

LC takes premium gas, 4runner takes good old regular!

[@Jay-bw3fl]

Yeah but it’s an 18 gallon tank in the LC vs the 23 gallon in the runner so price per tank is a wash when you consider that plus the better mpg

[@verlaryder]

4runner is more sluggish, in part, because its owners are too cheap to spend 6% extra for Premium.

[@Jay-bw3fl]

@@verlaryder premium fuel does not make a 4runner quicker

[@Metoxetron]

No, it takes regular. Premium is suggested for best performance, just like my FJC

[@ryanb8736]

4Runner is so sluggish.

[@edensfamilyadventures2714]

We thought we were going to get the new 4Runner but bought the First Editon Land Cruiser in the same heritage blue color that you bought and we are truly amazed at the power and zip it has! Never had so many positive comments on a vehicle as we have on this one. Couldn't be more happy with our decision. 👍

[@TRDJon]

Heck ya! Congrats guys on your new LC!

[@urbanadventurer5]

All I know is I chose a 2023 TRD Off-Road Premium last week and I have zero regrets. People keep talking about the power lol, but this isn’t F1 or Dakar folks! Just drive like a sane person and the 4Runner is fine. I pass whatever vehicles I want to with ease. It has seriously been a nonissue for me. Furthermore, people have been happily driving these things all over the planet and up the steepest mountains successfully for years. It’s such a great vehicle. I do believe the kinks will eventually get worked out on the new stuff over time and maybe I will reconsider then, but I will be enjoying miles of stress free off-roading until that time comes and may never make the switch until I am forced to. 😂

[@stevenm6301]

Couldn't agree more. Also have a 2023 TRD ORP.

[@BoiseTDI]

100% !

[@Fishsaurus]

No, I lost confidence in Toyota. Keep your V6 4Runner. I guess we have not learned that Toyota is not what it once was. Tundras have plenty of issues, Tacomas have plenty of issues, and the Grand Highlander has a stop sale. What else needs to happen for us to learn our lesson?

[@derrickp]

The 5th gen 4Runner and 2nd gen Tundra had plenty of issues when they first came out. You just don’t remember because it was so long ago 😂

[@KingH734]

@@derrickp show me major engine and trans failures, along with drivetrain like driveshaft and transfer case and more in previous naturally aspirated toyotas

[@derrickp]

@@KingH734 the 2nd generation tundra certainly did have transmission issues including early failure. Some of the engine options also were known for major oil consumption issues.

[@ryanb8736]

Toyota has issues with all new releases. Just as every other company does too. That’s why we have warranty. In a year, everyone will forget about the two trucks that broke and buy this new 4 cylinder turbo. The V6 Tundra is another story. They should have done inline 6 and not V. I said that years before they even made the new V6. A new version of 2JZ is what should be in that truck. Inline engines are better for longevity.

[@joeblack1052]

Yeah people don’t seem to see the issues with Toyota at the moment are systemic It isn’t just a teething problem on a new model There are disturbing signs of corporate failure Most likely due to putting profit over product The money guys are running the show and the engineers are making do with less

[@j.davis1007]

Not a fan of the premium fuel requirement for the LC but I’ve heard nothing but positive comments about the power and zip of the 4cylinder. I also like new tech so I would go with the LC for the extra 15k. I would expect it to have a good trade value 4/5 years down the road if it came to that so what the heck.

[@Mookie73242]

The new Land Cruiser takes regular gas was rated with regular gas per Toyota.

[@CrippleCreekStudios]

Thanks. I enjoyed watching the video. I have decided to get a 24’ 4Runner TRD ORP. Plan to build it up (slowly according to my wife 😂)

[@TRDJon]

Heck ya bro! Enjoy!

[@anthonyoconnor5813]

Love my new LC. Underground looks awesome in person. Definitely smoother ride than ‘21 4R TRD. Was concerned about the 4 cylinder hybrid, but love it in person. Appreciate the videos and feedback.

[@braalo07]

Test drove it two weeks ago and maan, what a car. Definitely worth the money!!!

[@TRDJon]

Glad you enjoyed it bro

[@joeblack1052]

Toyota employee of the year wannabe by any chance ?

[@braalo07]

@@joeblack1052 Doubt I would be able to afford one if I was. I am definitely a fan, trading in my 2022 Tiguan for the diesel that is available in our market 🙂

[@shawnuff1974]

Man, if I ever had to trade my 17 limited it would definitely be the new GX.

[@ryanb8736]

New GX is awesome. Looks amazing and way better in person.

[@monti-man8207]

Agreed.

[@JackChit-pv3dj]

Than you haven’t seen the new LX, besides the gx is a little faulty

[@tubecoatue]

The deal-breaker for me with the 6th gen is that you can't lay the seats flat in the back! I guess even the 5th gen needs a minor mod to make it work. I'm wondering what will be needed with the 6th gen to sleep two people comfortably in the back.

[@bt7482]

the rear seats fold forward or simply pop them out.

[@kanzzon]

My fj aint broke yet, 330k miles and running strong, no need to update, I dont have computer nannies to annoy me and most important, toyota cannot sell my driving history to insurance companies since my FJ is not spying on me

[@ryanb8736]

Toyota doesn’t sell your driving information. Where do you guys come up with these lies? 😂

[@kanzzon]

@@ryanb8736 you acuse me of lies, but you have not done the investigation, just google Lexisnexis and data shared cases. and dont be naive, in a era of information those that can collect and adapt to data win.

[@kanzzon]

@@ryanb8736 its ok to think they don't, I gain nothing by saying that ,but you can enjoy the benefits of new technologies that speak to each other...and others.

[@colin707]

Nice try toyota representative​@@ryanb8736

[@timalan7406]

@@ryanb8736 From Joe Biden

[@normanli7085]

Hey Jon, you are right. The specs on the LC 250 are wrong, particularly in Headroom and legroom. If u want the exact specs, use the GX 550, although with the sunroof, the GX even got the headroom figures wrong, so headroom is around 39 inches, not 35 or 43 inches

[@TRDJon]

Bro…how hard is it to put the proper numbers 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@josejauregui8352]

The 4Runner looks way better

[@Kjhgr01]

I have a 2023 4Runner Limited AWD and with the 3rd row. The best part is the whole cargo area goes flat all the way to the front seats because the 2nd row bottom cushions do not tumble, backrests just fold. I'm 6'1" and I can sleep in the back, straight. The 2nd row also slide back so when it's a 5-pass the 2nd row has tons of legroom! When I travel, I lift the 3rd row backrests but leaves the bottom cushions hidden, that provides great cargo space and it doesn't move. I'm averaging 19.2 mpg over 32K at the pump, that's the very sad part.

[@rostamr4096]

Great review, your 4 runner looks brand new. What brand polish do you use for detailing?

[@tubecoatue]

I've never understood the criticism of the power on the 5th gen. Mine is very spunky and the 5 speed is fine too. Yeah it's not a sports car (for crying out loud) but the power delivery is more than adequate imo. By the way, fuel mileage on mine regularly exceeds 22mpg on the hwy, which isn't great but not awful either. I think some of the generic complaints all around have become a bit cliche and are rather silly. I love the 5th gen and intend on keeping it for as long as I can.

[@wyatt_taco4]

Nicely done and exactly what I was looking for!

[@TRDJon]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@Brunoxtr]

Gotta be insane to even think leaving the long tried, tested and reliable 4Runner for that new LC.

[@ryanb8736]

New ones will be built to last just as long or even longer. Plus it has more power, better transmission, no brake dive, and be 100 times better on the highway. I hate driving the 4Runner on the highway as it wanders everywhere, plus it takes a while to get up to speed. New drive trains get up to speed fast.

[@Yul-Uhlu]

​ A Pedal Commander would fix that for the 4Runner for sure.

[@lynch42o]

@@ryanb8736 what a blind BS take, I’m also willing to bet you bored for Biden as well.

[@ryanb8736]

@@lynch42o Bored for Biden? What kinda of hillbilly talk is that? I’ve been in the car business and engine industry for 36 years. So I’ve been around for a long time in the industry. I know what’s gonna last and not last. I’m also a Trump supporter.

[@ryanb8736]

@@Yul-Uhlu a pedal commander just gives you more throttle response to improve instant gratification. It gives no extra power at all. Doesn’t make it quicker neither.

[@mondohoss1263]

Short answer: Nope..... Long Answer: NOOOOOPE

[@TRDJon]

lol 😂

[@purpskurp8737]

5th gen all day every day every minute every second. Best Toyota made vehicle maybe ever.

[@graysonatlas]

Haha. Good one

[@SUPaddict]

@@purpskurp87372nd best maybe next to prior gen Landcruiser? Def the best if cost is a factor…

[@YuenanCao]

Complexity and premium fuel and compromised rear cargo space - NOPE

[@jeffm5099]

You should compare 4runner to the 1978 model since that's what most of us are considering. Your first edition is GX550 range which is the obvious choice at that price range.

[@TRDJon]

Will do! 😊

[@iwazaru8101]

Fantastic video. I've been waiting for a detailed side-by-side comparison of these 2 vehicles and you nailed it. I'm waiting for the 6th Gen 4Runner to come out before shopping. To those whining about MPGs and regular vs premium gas, neither car is for you. There are plenty of Highlanders on the lot at DaySpa Toyota for you to choose from.

[@TRDJon]

I could have done more. After making the video and watching it, I fail to mention the tech, wheel base, other off road bits too. But I am glad you enjoyed.

[@iwazaru8101]

@@TRDJon No sweat. Tech specs can be found online, but you are one of the first to put these two side-by-side so viewers can SEE (not just read about) how the two vehicles match up in size, interior space, etc. And no spec sheet can convey how each interior feels for the driver and passengers; those are "intangibles" and good insight for those who don't own both vehicles.

[@TRDJon]

I appreciate that!!!!

[@TypeIIAdventures]

I was changing an O2 sensor in a parking lot when my gas hood strut decided to fail and came crashing down on my head. Prop rods are fine for me.

[@kirbymccasland]

This is so reassuring and helpful! If I had to lose my 4Runner, I’d never get a new ride 😂 No doubt it will last forever. We really wanted to love the 6th gen, but it looks like a potential rattle fest with all the different materials in the interior. Land Cruiser with the premium package was the only new vehicle that felt remotely right the moment we sat in it. Can. Not. Wait.

[@WeatheredCyclist]

My 5th Gen TRD Off Road Premium is a beauty. Does everything I want and expect. The rock solid naturally aspirated V6 has plenty of power and has been Kaizen-ed to death. I also think it looks better than the new Land Cruiser. Having said that, I cannot understand why auto-headlights and power tailgate aren't part of my trim level.....But, other than that, I am super happy with my 5th Gen. Thanks for the great video. I really enjoy your insights.

[@trailrunnah8886]

I'm team Land Cruiser. I was really excited for the 4Runner, but I was just underwhelmed by the 6th gen. Biggest thing for me besides styling is I just prefer the look of the Land Cruiser interior.

[@koehh4652]

Have a 2015 4Runner TRD Pro with 145K miles at the moment. I will probably wait around 4-5 years to see how these new SUVS perform over time before jumping into a new one.

[@Smdee3]

Right there with you

[@danielmartz3145]

Gosh, that Calvary Blue 4Runner looks so good! Thanks for the awesome comparison. The rear length comparison is interesting. I would’ve expected the Land Cruiser to have more space given the longer wheelbase. I feel like the cowl and drivers position is a few inches further back on TNGA platforms. The packaging doesn’t seem to take advantage of the longer wheelbase. Same with the Tacoma.

[@TRDJon]

For sure! Yea I think it’s only a few inches longer too than the 4R as well exterior.

[@patricklawrence2755]

I am looking to make this 'upgrade'. thanks for the side-by-side comparison sir...

[@TRDJon]

No problem 👍

[@Rich-eg6qb]

I'm keeping my 4runner, 5th gen, 2024 TRD Pro. The land cruiser engine bay is a mess.

[@tommy516]

the fact that pretty much every new Toyota's rear cargo area is a mess is the worst part, do any of them have flat cargo areas with the seats down???

[@johnlilley8525]

Just found your channel, and love the detailed reviews of both vehicles. Having said that, I hope your dogs are tethered. Otherwise, they will be going through that back opening even in the 15 mile an hour rear ender at a red light.

[@TRDJon]

They aren’t. But I usually roll the window up as we come to a stop

[@doctorres112]

Want to like the new LC so badly, though as silly as this sounds - not having the bottom hand slot at the bottom of the steering wheel is a deal breaker for me. Now it's covered by plastic!!! Does this bother you at all?

[@D_F_L_]

Can you help clear up the weight capacity of what you can put on top of the hybrid battery on the trunk? Does the disclaimer state a low weight which might be difficult to build out with drawers or sleep platform on the back? Not sure if that was TFL or Alexonautos who stated something about trying to get clarity on how much weight can be placed over the hybrid battery on the trunk.

[@MG77740]

I had a 2019 and had to decide on 5 more years of Kaizen on a 2024 4Runner or go with Land Cruiser, 2025 4Runner or GX550. The GX was simply too expensive for what I would be getting for an upgraded 2024 4Runner which would be bulletproof. The turbos are still having issues. So, I had bought a bunch of premo upgrades for the 2019 but didn’t install them yet. I traded in the 2019 for the 2024 and am adding all the upgrades to the 2024. I know it will last and I still love the appearance and features. The 2024 has the radar and I’m getting to the point where that’s a real plus and the only modern feature that I need.

[@christophermacmillan6083]

Love your videos ! I'm looking at getting a 5th 4runner and love your front bumper with led upgrade. Just wondering where you got it from, and the name of it? Thanks so much! Keep up the awesome vids! 👏

[@supersoup5509]

Excellent review!! Thanks for the measurements!

[@TRDJon]

No problem 👍

[@dudemcknight7464]

I have a 2016 sr5, thing is a trooper. 200k miles and drives like it has 80k. I want to like the new Land Cruiser but the hybrid system being on all trim models is a turn off. Tbh, at this point my next vehicle is going to be 3rd gen 4 runner with a 5 speed…. I’m sick of new tech and I’m sick of autos.

[@Anomize23]

I can’t believe people are paying all that money for that little cramped interior Land Cruiser. 😂 I didn’t even pay 45k for my 4runner which has way more space. And the sucker who thinks hybrid will save them money will be disappointed when they have to pay premium gas at the pump. They sure know how to sucker these people with the unrealistic“MPG” savings 😂

[@KeithKelleyIT]

Love Love Love our Land Cruiser... it is so quick for size and luxury.. with all the off road capabilities

[@BigRudy53]

Good luck

[@Jay-bw3fl]

I had a 2023 40th anniversary 4runner and now have the new 1958 Land Cruiser and it all comes down to what you value. I value power and the Land Cruiser puts the 4 runner to shame in that department. Also no nose dive when braking. It’s just so much more enjoyable to drive. But If you value long term reliability above all else and you keep your vehicles a really long time then the 4runner would prob be the best bet. Overall even tho I loved it I don’t miss the 4runner in the least.

[@ryanb8736]

New technology makes a huge win. Better driving is another huge win. I hated how the 4Runner drove. It felt like I was in the 80’s.

[@zelenizub2036]

If you value power, Wrangler 392, Bronco R or G wagon have much more of that. Also each one is better off-road too. When someone buys Toyota, there's only one reason to do it, RELIABILITY. In every other aspect, everyone else is pretty much better. When i see the door and the hood closing on that Land Cruiser it sounds like it's made of soda cans. My 1987 300 SDL closes the door like the bank vault. I could spend whole day just opening and closing that door....

[@edensfamilyadventures2714]

Well said and I agree👍

[@Jay-bw3fl]

@@zelenizub2036 if you’re honestly concerned about the sound a door makes when you shut it then good luck lol. Also the Land Cruiser does not cost as much as a wrangler 392, bronco R or G wagon so your argument is completely irrelevant and there’s no reason to even bring those cars up because no one is Cross shopping those cars with the Land Cruiser, that’s just plain ignorant. I’m talking about usable power- not power that you can’t even legally use on the road. Get real with your comments

[@jmua8450]

If you were in a coma and woke up 25 years later the 4Runner looks way more fresh and modern.

[@TRDJon]

Yea the LC was designed to look older

[@alanlovins1887]

Thanks for the comparison. Going to keep my ‘23 TRD Pro 4Runner 😎

[@TRDJon]

Good choice!

[@TheRoyalWe762]

Keeping my 23 4runner trd pro for the rest of time. Bought it new off the lot, ceramic coated it and keeping it in a shed/garage and pure synthetic oil changes. 800,000 guaranteed 1.2 mill plus and I'll just put a new motor in hahahah

[@sunroomstudios8487]

Great comparison video! I saw a 1st edition LC for the first time and it looks way better in person. I like driving my 5th Gen 4Runner tank though. Maybe a decade from now I may consider a used LC. For now, I’m sticking with the tank.

[@marcmorgan3026]

Im torn between between a 24 4Runner or a 25 4Runner

[@Anomize23]

Easy decision for me. Get the new one if you want to deal with a recall wait for parts to come in for a weeks or months or buy the 5th gen and never worry.

[@supersoup5509]

I have both and I think the LC is a better choice . Huge diff in my opinion to comfort, performance and looks awesome. Trd pro is for long term and one of my fav suvs and I think this will be as well.

[@TRDJon]

Totally agree!

[@sharkskin3448]

3 weeks in, I'm loving my 24 Tundra. Spell check keeps making it Tubdra. Maybe it should be Tubdra.

[@manuvns]

Which one will depreciate more 😂

[@TRDJon]

Who knows. Land cruisers tend to hold value too.

[@0311EdG]

Maybe in 2-3 yrs. Sure. But not rn. New engine and we don’t know how reliable it is.

[@TRDJon]

Yep. Time will tell.

[@edensfamilyadventures2714]

Don't forget that it is under factory warranty and it is a Toyota for crying out loud. My dealer threw in a 7yr or 100,000 mi. warranty as well. No regrets with our purchase👍

[@monti-man8207]

For the money. GX 550.

[@SheldonGoff]

I hope you enjoy your new ride. I have a 4Runner just like yours, and I wouldn't trade it for a new Land Cruiser or 6th Gen 4Runner. I'll keep what I have. I like it better than the new ones.

[@randallsmith7885]

Thanks for this comparison. I was wondering if the 5th gen 4R felt like you are sitting on the floor like with Tacomas. The LC’s driver seating position may be the deciding factor for me. I have long legs and a short torso, so the LC is probably the better option. Will try them both first.

[@robertgraham5486]

I’ve never had a problem getting off the line in my 4R neither longing for or needing more power,how fast do I need to go

[@jeffg2352]

I'll be trading up to the LC, Just waiting until the right one comes in. The reason for me is my age I would like to be more comfortable during my daily commute.

[@TRDJon]

Hope it comes in for you soon!

[@ErikBernethy]

Get rid of the 5th gen. Who would do that?

[@tellinustr8up]

If you want more power in the 5th gen you can supercharge it for 5k and it will still be reliable than that crappy 4cylinder

[@RobertCollins-uq6jb]

went and checked out a Land Cruiser today, and honestly it felt smaller. Especially in the driver seat. I'm a big guy, 6ft tall, 300lbs, and my head was sticking out of the sunroof on the land cruiser. kind of odd. very cool vehicle, but i'm gonna stick with my 5th Gen 4runner.

[@adrianrempisRN07]

I love your LC than 4rnr. Super neat and nice. Mixed of vintage and modern.

[@TRDJon]

Thanks so much!

[@justshay89]

i cant say that i like the LC over the 5th gen 4Runner. My 5th gen has been pretty awesome to me but i am definitely liking the new tacoma more these days. loving your content coverage jon!

[@Vlaakster]

I'm considering exactly this upgrade (and the GX is on the table too) so this video really is perfect! You covered everything I care about too, especially the back seat room and storage room in the back. Great work as always. Thanks Jon!

[@TacoTruck17]

Your rims on the Land cruiser are alot better!

[@CGGarage]

Good comparison dude. As soon as you opened your hood of the LC my jaw dropped lol. Looks like a rats nest under there! Another thing that sucks too is there is barely any room under there to work on it, I enjoyed earlier toyota models that had space under there around to engine to work on. Other than that, I would love to get my wife the 4runner you got, or the newer one that is coming out if internet rates weren't so bad. Good video bro.

[@TRDJon]

Thanks man! Yea it is a rats nest for sure!

[@efromhb]

That LC sounds tinny...4Runner sounds much more solid.

[@Vlaakster]

One other thing, if you see this. Can you review the upgraded audio you have in the 1st edition? I believe it's the same as the Land Cruiser edition premium package too. How consistent is the Apple Car Play connection? Overall good/bad/meh?

[@TRDJon]

CarPlay has been solid. I feel it lacks some bass though

[@Vlaakster]

@@TRDJon Thanks a lot for the reply! That is great to hear.

[@tiffanygo4267]

Ooh I love the bull bar plate thing on your 4runner! Could you share the brand? Thanks!

[@TRDJon]

It’s from Cali Raised. bit.ly/3Vi0iDw

[@gregjoubert5118]

I got rid of my 5th gen at peak market. Having a hard time thinking do I pick up the last of the 5th, a new 6th, or possibly the LC. My big thing with the 5th gen is at altitude is it is a true dog. After test driving the new Tacoma non hybrid it feels much more peppy and the TRD suspension and tires were decent from the factory. I figure the 6th gen will be similar components. Just feels like all the new vehicles are more cheaply built. Especially the Tundra interior. We shall see... Thanks for the video!

[@yourchava]

Just got a 23 armada, has crazy power

[@dawwent7181]

If they gave us in the states the diesel like the other parts of the world it would be a toss up for me. As it is though I would take the 4Runner all Day everyday.

[@ryanb8736]

I just wish it drive better. The v6 and old transmission makes it terrible. Plus it’s so floaty and has too much brake dive. Gives me anxiety. Looks amazing though. Hopefully the new 4Runner drive great. Problem is the price on the new TRD pro is gonna be 75k. For that price I can get a BMW X5 full luxury with high performance.

[@Mario-lj7gm]

Once you see the new LC and 6th gen 4R in person, you will see that they are just so much nicer than the previous gens. Anyone badmouthing the new LC or new 4R has not seen them in person. Jon, how do the LC hybrid and 6th gen 4R Trd Pro sound compared to the 5th gen 4R, especially the TRD pro exhaust? That is the only thing I'm worried about with the new ones.

[@Anomize23]

I can’t believe people are paying all that money for that little cramped interior Land Cruiser and YES I SAT IN IT.😂 I didn’t even pay 45k for my 4runner which has way more space. And the sucker who thinks hybrid will save them money will be disappointed when they have to pay premium gas at the pump. They sure know how to sucker these people with the unrealistic“MPG” 😂 THE MATH DOESN’T IMPACT THIS VEHICLE BEING A GOOD VALUE AT ALL…… ITS SMALL

[@OceansideCreations]

The new 4runner just looks ugly.

[@Nihil0s]

No

[@pewterngold]

I don’t like how the rear side windows curl up over the roof line on the 6th Gen.

[@jeffp5418]

I agree

[@noctilucent7396]

4R geared towards the broccoli heads, LC is for adults

[@jamesfreeman7954]

@@noctilucent7396brocoli heads cant afford either of them. Nissan altima more up their alley.

[@dREaDneck_Moto]

Full time 4x4 in a state thar never sees snow just seems wrong. Needs a real transfer case, and then wouldn't need a center diff lock.

[@TRDJon]

No Florida version of the LC lol

[@dREaDneck_Moto]

@@TRDJon I'm in Colorado, and still prefer a part time 4x4 system, but my wife would rather not have to turn it on.

[@bd103dall]

@@dREaDneck_Motoout of curiosity why do you prefer the part-time system?

[@dREaDneck_Moto]

@@bd103dall No need to put unnecessary wear on the front drive components on pavement in the summer.

[@ryanb8736]

@@dREaDneck_Motoas a mechanic for 37 years, I’ve replaced more part time 4 wheel drive units than full time AWD units. They have a tendency to seize up when not used. Plus on long drives in bad weather, you are not supposed to drive in 4Hi, so it’s not as safe as a full time. Part time is perfect for off roaders who do it every day. Full time is better for daily drivers who still go off road.

[@betoesca71]

LC Cargo area weight capacity is around 120 lbs. Which means you could have issues if you exceed that weight with drawers, a fridge or other gear. Wish you would have addressed that.

[@TRDJon]

Thats just the cover to the little cargo area

[@rapstarD]

I wanted a 5th gen 4runner but 0 are for sale in my province that arent bought in 1 hour now

[@eversgtz]

Definitely LC takes it, tech and practicability and design is pretty darn nice. The engine welp, that’s where we are headed and LC has a much better power output.

[@TRDJon]

Right on!

[@mazepa-slavaukrayini932]

👍Excellent comparison!! Thank you!

[@TRDJon]

Thanks for watching!

[@wsteele5864]

For me, I have always wanted a 5th Gen Forerunner but at my height, the driving position is a no go. I am going to check out the new LC as I would like to get back to Toyota for my off road whichever.

[@CavKyle]

But the real question is will it be worth the x amount more than a 6th gen?

[@tommyistommy]

The cargo area on the land cruiser is puzzling....a RAV4 has more room! I do not understand why they went hybrid only while the GX can get a 3rd row, more cargo room, more roof options etc. The 1958 would be really something if it came without a hybrid system and cost 8k less. I guess that's where the 6th gen will land....idk it feels like the Land Cruiser is trying to occupy a middle ground between GX and 4runner that doesn't exist

[@mrgetoutside1378]

I will be buried in my 5th gen.

[@LucasLeCompteMusic]

Every new model Toyota has out right now basically has something wrong with it or a recall on it. The 5th Gen is the last great 4 runner we will see.

[@YuenanCao]

Nice thing about no struts on Jeep JK hood is that it can be leaned all the way back against the windshield by design to allow more engine bay access - does the new LC do this?

[@TRDJon]

No idea. I don’t even wanna try to put it all the way back.

[@Masonbosshog]

Hell no. I just seen the LC 1st edition today in person. Just a gimmick loaded version of a LC marketed for the US buyer wanting the latest and greatest new thing on the market. Or for KZbinrs to buy for clicks. If you had to travel off road across Africa out in the middle of nowhere you aren't picking thar LC over your Runner.

[@TRDJon]

Lol I probably wouldn't pick either of them

[@michaelmelnick1652]

Could you confirm the FRONT legroom of the Landcruiser is only 33" as the Toyota website says?!! I'm 6'4" and test drove the Landcruiser and it did seem less than the 4Runner and much less than my VW Golf!!!

[@northerntoyota7584]

5th Gen 4runner is so much better looking. Give it more power and a few more gears, that’s all it needs for most of us.

[@null1808]

Look at the left side on the rear of the land cruiser there is a sticker. You cannot put more then 120 pounds on the top of the battery in the back. 120 Pound limit is BS, a costco run or a dog with a few items could easily exceed that. Huge Design Flaw.

[@scott48]

I’m waiting for the new forerunner to come out to compare the two and then make my decision then I like to look at the new forerunner though it’s hot

[@carson7609]

Wait to you actually drive the Land Cruiser thing is a beast

[@TRDJon]

Yea bro, it is hard to compare on a computer. You just gotta really see them and drive them

[@timalan7406]

Smaller engine, more power- you're giving up something though, what do you think it is?

[@mcwendel8066]

Definitely keeping my 23 4Runner. If i were to upgrade I’d go with the GX550

[@Malaka1973]

What lift and tire size on the 4runner?

[@TRDJon]

Thanks man! It’s a Westcott TRD Pro pre collar kit

[@psyberiusblack]

Definitely 4Runner for now. Give it a few years and check back on Toyota/Lexus new lineup.

[@rjc31415]

Engine compartment on the LC looks like they sold it to you before they finished putting it together.

[@TRDJon]

lol

[@gabegabriel7601]

Nope on the 6th gen. 4runner for me. I was expecting more, not a photocopy of the Tacoma. Mayyyyyybe the Landcruiser or GX. Thanks for the content John!

[@genpepper3]

Does the LC have the same engine failures as the other turbo 4cyc ?

[@anthonyoconnor5813]

Current 4R - 5th Gen TRD Off Road. LC on order to arrive 7/6. Can’t wait!

[@cyronader]

I am not sure if true, but a few people from the Land Cruiser Forums were saying that once Toyota finishes producing the 1st editions they will make a new "Platinum" trim which will include a panoramic roof. It wont be like the GX550 which turns opaque but instead it will open up. Heated rear seats and 3rd row will be an option. So that means there will be an option for a none hybrid LC. I hope.

[@ericleach2504]

When is that supposed to take place??

[@gomezbr1]

Overall, is the Land Cruiser bigger (interior) than the 4Runner??

[@ravensfootball52]

I imagine lots of price overlap between the 6th gen and the Land Cruiser

[@TRDJon]

Agreed

[@DerekJamesLynn]

You had better keep your 4Runner are you will regret it. I bought a new 4R in 22 41k miles now and I’ve had zero issues. I will say it’s a little old school but a stellar reputation. Best of Luck to you

[@TRDJon]

Nice! Congrats!!!

[@rocketmonkey90]

Nice job. Thanks John.

[@TRDJon]

Thanks for listening!

[@stonewp]

If it had a roll down rear window I would definitely be considering it, but as it is, I prefer my 5th gen 4Runner.