20 Most Controversial Changes In R6 History....

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@Dravignor
@Dravignor 3 ай бұрын
My least favorite change has been the change to ADS time. We went from being able to react to a sudden engagement to now being forced to practically always be ADS'd
@hygormotasantos4035
@hygormotasantos4035 3 ай бұрын
It was kinda overkill, that's true. But to be honest I prefer that over that shitty 1.5x meta. Yes they could've only removed the different scopes and mantain only the 1.0x and 2.5x like it is now, but hey at least it killed half of the TDM meta
@harmansingh95100
@harmansingh95100 3 ай бұрын
The amount of lucky headshot kills that happen while not fully zoomed in feels so bad
@BMP
@BMP 3 ай бұрын
Yeah that change is another thing a lot of people don't like
@AzureVoltic
@AzureVoltic 3 ай бұрын
Womp womp you actually have to ve ready for a gunfight instead of getting panick kills
@dr.narwhalmd4885
@dr.narwhalmd4885 3 ай бұрын
I feel like they have to make up their mind though, because right now it feels like its in a limbo of just slow enough to not really be run and gun but too fast to be meticulous or necessary. They should either put it back to being fast, or slow it down even more to make it an actual decision. ADS'ing should be an advantage though with everything but shotguns, which could maybe be made to more reliably get hipfire kills.
@moneytalks6225
@moneytalks6225 3 ай бұрын
I think the gutting of Zofia with less concussion, the effect of them being nerfed, withstand removal, and now being a 1 speed is just tragic.
@titosgrove8021
@titosgrove8021 3 ай бұрын
don't forget about her AR's nerf
@hypnose7206
@hypnose7206 3 ай бұрын
@@titosgrove8021 yea the ar nerf created the worst meta for a while with the lmg spam
@Soul_btw
@Soul_btw 3 ай бұрын
and yet shes still one of the best ops atm lol
@varan2412
@varan2412 3 ай бұрын
​@@Soul_btwdon't agree
@ManOfPillowDoom
@ManOfPillowDoom 3 ай бұрын
Her gun is controllable for me idk man I just struggle with it now
@reddoorstudios7103
@reddoorstudios7103 3 ай бұрын
Removing invisibility for echo and lesion was tragic yet understandable
@BMP
@BMP 3 ай бұрын
Yeah most people agree those were good changes which is why I didnt include them. They were definitely influential though
@LiljamezZz
@LiljamezZz 3 ай бұрын
Echo didn't need it tbh and practically makes echo drones useless. The gu mines being partially invisible was perfect and the instant damage nerf was very understandable but the nerfs after that was overkill
@weebtrash3376
@weebtrash3376 3 ай бұрын
@@LiljamezZz I don’t get why people were upset about the removal of invisibility of gu mines when I see that shit proc all the time and it’s pretty much guaranteed to in late round situations
@inactiveuser6250
@inactiveuser6250 Ай бұрын
@@LiljamezZzecho would be the best opp in the game if it was invisible. It would be very annoying
@PugGrumbler
@PugGrumbler 9 күн бұрын
They seem almost more effective cause now people are forced to place the better instead of being instantly visible at the top of stairs
@multiplicityxc1093
@multiplicityxc1093 3 ай бұрын
-Mousetrap not permabanning xim/script cheaters irks me -Jagers plethora of repeated nerfs making him unplayable -Mozzie super shorty removal was a hot take, too -reload canceling was pretty controversial at first,
@SillySandwich1
@SillySandwich1 2 ай бұрын
No one asked for your opinion
@amber_sight7385
@amber_sight7385 18 күн бұрын
reload canceling is what started me not wanting to play the game since i always find myself needing it
@vapelordthenord8235
@vapelordthenord8235 16 күн бұрын
just reload ​@amber_sight7385
@hoteltrivago.3034
@hoteltrivago.3034 3 ай бұрын
IMO the worst change to Rainbow has been the constant increase in weapon recoil. White Noise gunplay felt so good, but the weapon accuracy was apparently “too high” and now most guns have such a ridiculous amount of recoil that it feels like the Rainbow Operators are toddlers instead of elite CTU specialists.
@albinomitch
@albinomitch 3 ай бұрын
Buddy aint no gun has a lot of recoil 😂 Go in shooting range and learn the patterns for smg 12, skorpion, r4c, c8 its not hard. The rest is just drag down or steady.
@WilliamGunnarsson-r6s
@WilliamGunnarsson-r6s 3 ай бұрын
​@@albinomitch most weapons are impossible to control like a laser beam tho
@ManOfPillowDoom
@ManOfPillowDoom 3 ай бұрын
​@@albinomitch stop lying bro some of them are a chore to try and control skill issue or not it's a lil too much
@albinomitch
@albinomitch 3 ай бұрын
@@ManOfPillowDoom Bro its literally just pull down, every gun has its own recoil pattern. Not 1:1 recoil but always the same angle. Just because R4C has more kick doesnt mean its hard
@lauri3548
@lauri3548 3 ай бұрын
​@@albinomitchtbh, no. If we compare the recoils to let's say csgo. Siege is worse. The playability is worse. Saying "just pull down" is just dumb. Yeah, the sight stays down vertically, but the amount of random horizontal recoil kills the game. I'd die to get a consistent spray pattern like in csgo. For example the ak in cs is yeah, it kicks, but you can learn it. All of it. The spread is much tighter compared to siege. And not RANDOM. The problem in siege currently is the RANDOM vertical recoil. Try to hit let's say 30/100 bullets in shooting range with ela at the medium distance. Hell try to do it even at the closest range. You can't. Because ubisoft likes to kill fun abd do not like rewarding people who actually take the time to grind the recoils. I've played since operation health, competitively most of it and the gunfights have never felt worse. There's too much luck involved for a game that's 1 shot headshot with every gun.
@bakes1324
@bakes1324 3 ай бұрын
Two other changes that were in patch notes but never got implemented because they were so controversial were roof hatches being reinforced by default and smoke losing his immunity to his own gas grenades.
@BMP
@BMP 3 ай бұрын
Yeah smoke losing his invulnerability to smoke grenades was a huge one that I even forgot about
@Kaleb._
@Kaleb._ 2 ай бұрын
that was only in test servers. They never went through with that smoke change
@bakes1324
@bakes1324 2 ай бұрын
@ it was in patch notes though which means it was closer to getting added then some things you usually see in TS.
@Kaleb._
@Kaleb._ 2 ай бұрын
@@bakes1324 still never happened tho lol. Im just sad he doesnt have his shield anymore
@bakes1324
@bakes1324 2 ай бұрын
@@Kaleb._ I think you’re missing the point. The video had an example of a change that appeared in a patch notes but wasn’t actually added so I brought up two other examples.
@dr.narwhalmd4885
@dr.narwhalmd4885 3 ай бұрын
The shields are mainly busted because of how much melee priority they get. You cannot viably melee a shield user anymore if they know what they're doing. I've died so many times after watching my melee go out first, hit the shield with an audible clang, and it do absolutely nothing because the shield user melee'd in the same solar cycle that I did. Before the rework shields had to respect entering melee because they could get bullied if they weren't careful. Now they just run up to you and start dry humping you as soon as they can.
@maximelocas7968
@maximelocas7968 2 ай бұрын
nowadays if i hear a shield i instantly ask for help because its basicaly impossible to kill by yourself
@persuisixh4804
@persuisixh4804 2 ай бұрын
They breath on their melee key and you can’t touch them
@MisakiTbrs
@MisakiTbrs 2 ай бұрын
as a shield player i just shoot at them while running towards them to melee xd
@JansMarinara
@JansMarinara 3 ай бұрын
Map bans are the only reason i play ranked ever. If they removed i would only ever play standard. Sometimes i just get sick of outback, emerald plains, and theme park and rhey always seemed to be filling my standard games
@lucas29210
@lucas29210 2 ай бұрын
I absolute hate theme park
@Mapacheitor117
@Mapacheitor117 Ай бұрын
This video should be called "changes to please the pro players and make the game another generic esport" The vast majority of these changes took Siege's magic
@iammiist
@iammiist 4 күн бұрын
and made it more popular dont forget that part
@aLittlebbean
@aLittlebbean 3 ай бұрын
It's like ubi is allergic to all fun, I understand balancing changes but some of them don't give that much of an advantage and are just fun to play around with.
@BMP
@BMP 3 ай бұрын
Yeah they tend to nerf fun stuff instead of buffing the weak things in the game. There are examples where nerfs were necessary like azami on launch. But generally buffs are better imo
@aLittlebbean
@aLittlebbean 3 ай бұрын
@@BMP if we buff everything to match the really good stuff, it'll all be even, just sayin
@DarnTootn
@DarnTootn 2 ай бұрын
Blame pro players, the majority of changes are from them whining about things being too fun.
@Justln-6
@Justln-6 2 ай бұрын
​@@DarnTootnYou are lost. Delusional. And more
@tnductai
@tnductai 2 ай бұрын
Most changes in the last 5 years are for pro league. Many fun things for casual player were removed
@ErfanMJ
@ErfanMJ 3 ай бұрын
2 speed sledge with an smg 11 used to be the most perfectly balanced opperator he was really good if you were a beginner or a pro.
@Atmos.
@Atmos. 3 ай бұрын
I dislike the 1.5 scope, but I was fully expecting the removal of it to be on here
@MrMegakickass
@MrMegakickass 2 ай бұрын
Nah most people agree that the 1.5 has to go
@p4arz1v4l-4
@p4arz1v4l-4 23 күн бұрын
Why do you dislike it? The game was pointed out as a "Competitive" Game. That's why the scope was even there.
@vaantsy
@vaantsy 3 ай бұрын
Ubi, make Sledge a 3 speed and keep everything. i'll accept that.
@DarthRevanJr
@DarthRevanJr 3 ай бұрын
They gutted my boy. Turned him into a 1 speed. Which made him slower(even though you need to be close to use his gadget), and louder on vert. They took away his SMG11, which made using his shotgun or AR acog less viable. THEN they took away the frags lethality. He needs buffs, but I’m willing to compromise. Make him a 2-2 and give him a secondary shotgun AT LEAST.
@rckxu5969
@rckxu5969 3 ай бұрын
@@DarthRevanJr Id even say fuck it just give him back the SMG 11; I think its balanced with him being a 3 speed
@Smokey348
@Smokey348 2 ай бұрын
@@DarthRevanJr the change in frags are fine imo but all the other stuff noope
@DarthRevanJr
@DarthRevanJr 2 ай бұрын
@@Smokey348 I like the change as a whole, but you can’t deny it was a nerf to ops that ran them. Especially sledge being able to cook them from vert.
@queckmeck
@queckmeck 3 ай бұрын
Well the things you pointed out about sledge, are the reason why I have one of my two elite skins unused for many seasons now. For me it wasn't about the ACOG strategy and smg as secondary. It was about the viability of a shotgun in attack. It made him viable (to some extend) to play instead of buck, because he had nades and could shoot through the ground but in a less destructive way. But well, I now have an smg 11 skin from an elite skin for a character that doesn't even have the gun anymore....
@eblizzard6821
@eblizzard6821 2 ай бұрын
Nøkk getting her silent step removed. Her identity was being a Vigil/Cav combination on attack and removing the stronger half of her ability made her go from an A tier operator to an E-F tier operator. Granted the recent reworks have improved her as much as they can without her silent step but as a Nøkk main it’s probably the worst change they’ve done for me outside of the Solis overnerfing.
@NickNickyNicholasNick
@NickNickyNicholasNick 3 ай бұрын
8:47 what a transition
@BMP
@BMP 3 ай бұрын
You can thank the editor for that one lol
@Beveyboygames
@Beveyboygames 3 ай бұрын
@@BMP I didnt even notice lmao
@NickNickyNicholasNick
@NickNickyNicholasNick 3 ай бұрын
@@BMP thank you editor
@etheriael
@etheriael 13 күн бұрын
i wouldve thought t hunt being removed was quite controversial, since the main enemies back then were basically useless/retconned in a way
@plantplayer303
@plantplayer303 3 ай бұрын
2:34 man, Sieges proplayers seem like such crybabies, they have a problem with clearer communication in casual/pubs, when they have teammates they know and are in VC with all the time, and on top of that, one team lost a match/round because they couldn't double tap a Zofia, then went "waah, waah, daddy ubi fix", and of course ubi listened.
@CaprinaeSL
@CaprinaeSL 3 ай бұрын
Meanwhile Doc gets 3 "lol bad aim" redos (because 99% of Docs are aggressively spawnpeeking rather than being a medic) that give him a load of HP during the animation that usually takes a good few shots to get through. Then the Rook plate self res buff, which he kinda needed because they weren't that useful otherwise, went the other direction by allowing all 5 defenders to eat a shot that would kill them (99% sure you can use plates to tank claymores at any HP) and get up like nothing happened. Altogether, Ubisoft really has a long history of poor decisions regarding R6 (in regards to both gameplay and content). Though I wonder what they'll do regarding the BOSG
@mircomesca4737
@mircomesca4737 3 ай бұрын
True, pro players shouldn't be listened nearly as much as they do. They are an elite, not the majority, and they only see their bubble
@Avstinato
@Avstinato 3 ай бұрын
Pros didn't hate yellow pings because "it let noobs flourish without learning callouts" it's that it made any kind of camera WAY too strong when used correctly. There is no way to know when people are yellow pinging you. The only way to counter a valk cam when they're yellow pinging you is to have an IQ which made her way too strong which led to having to make Change 10 (no cameras outside). It also made drones that were hidden a free kill with 0 counterplay. When there wasn't a yellow ping available on cams, you had to make the choice to either red ping and give away that you have info on the other person, or have to be able to communicate with your team to tell them where the person is. The pros and high skill players wanted there to be a higher skill ceiling involved and for players to have a choice to make, not just to make the game more difficult.
@MrMegakickass
@MrMegakickass 2 ай бұрын
Jesus I'm so sick of people not understanding the zofia thing, first off it wasn't like he decided not to shoot a downed zofia the zofia was downed on a different floor, and the zofia change was announced a week after this incident which is way to quick for that incident to be related they cant make a change like that in a week, ubi even said zofia losing withstand had nothing to do with pros
@taiwandxt6493
@taiwandxt6493 Ай бұрын
​@mircomesca4737 But they aren't listened to as much as you think they are. And, pros are not this elite that is just so out of touch with the majority of the player base. They aren't within a bubble, because ultimately the metas between the competitive and casual communities are not so dichotomous. Ubisoft does take Pro league into account when making changes, but they also take high tier ranked into consideration as well. And, the reason why they do this is because regardless of where you stand on either side, be it competitive or casual community, Siege is a competitive fps. And with that, what is unbalanced to the competitive community, namely the pros, will eventually make it's way down to becoming unbalanced to the casuals as well. Something being OP at a pro level doesn't mean that it is inherently not OP or will not become so at a casual level. You see, unlike trickle down economics, trickle down balance is real.
@Ravi-vg2bu
@Ravi-vg2bu 3 ай бұрын
did everyone almost forget the smoke rework which would make him take damage from his own smoke, making his gas mask useless, which thankfully didn't go through
@bogdan3978
@bogdan3978 2 ай бұрын
Spawn peaking is part Of the game. It teachsss new players to be active the minute they spawn. I’ve died heaps of times trying to spawn kill. This is purely a skill based changed that caters to whiny brats to like to repel 90% of the game only To lose to a timer
@SillyLittleMan55
@SillyLittleMan55 Ай бұрын
I don’t really care too much about general changes and stuff like that. I just hate playing ranked because I always end up on a team with people with the most funny and original names ever such as (insert bypassed racist slur here), skibidigoonerchad, freepdiddybabyoil, and so on throwing the game. So these days, I just rarely play ranked and try and enjoy standard and quick match just to have a bit of fun. However, ONE change that I don’t like, is removal of terrorist hunt and situations and replacing it with VS Ai.
@thomasblack33
@thomasblack33 3 ай бұрын
ranked 2.0 is the reason my friends and i got away from playing siege. it was just confusing and we either stomped our opponents or got stomped + we could not see if we were really improving because we could not even check our mmr
@Rads994
@Rads994 2 ай бұрын
I am STILL f*ckin mad about sledge losing the smg-11 And im still mad about ranked 2.0, back in og ranked i was a peak gold, sure thats not the best, but now in ranked 2.0 i cant even get out of copper without getting pissed off and/or bored out of my fucking mind, i cant play ranked anymore because of it and they shpuld genuinely revert the change.
@hypnose7206
@hypnose7206 3 ай бұрын
thermite and buck loosing nade was something the community was really mad about, also mozee loosing the shorty was something too.
@michaelm1749
@michaelm1749 2 ай бұрын
The fact that Ubi has made so many controversial changes and the vast majority of them being in such a small time frame shows they have absolutely no idea what the community wants or what’s actually good for the game. IMO we gotta get rid of who’s there now and put new people in that actually care abt the game
@Zacharywebster-f3b
@Zacharywebster-f3b 2 ай бұрын
12:05 I think this might be one of the things I disagree with. Because YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO COOK GRENADES. The fact Ubisoft said "grenades are killing machines so they had to be reworked"... Is INSANE. BECAUSE THAT'S QUITE LITERALLY.... IN EVERY ASPECT OF THE WORDS... THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE DESIGNED TO DO! BE KILLING MACHINES.
@captainfalcon.
@captainfalcon. 3 ай бұрын
4:49 I’ve never heard anyone complain about this. I had always assumed that the community considered this to be a good change that was consistent across the board.
@BMP
@BMP 3 ай бұрын
People nowadays question the maestro part of the change. Everyone, for the most part, likes the mira part though
@Simpledude_edits
@Simpledude_edits Ай бұрын
You must never look at any single comment section ever on Twitter and Instagram because all this community knows how to do is complain. This was a heavily hated change, especially because Mira was one of the most picked defenders for years and still is today.
@squigglyline5021
@squigglyline5021 22 күн бұрын
It was hated because "it's bulletproof why can you just melee it" and it upset people in that sense because why can you smack something you can't shoot. Now we have that consistent throughout the game with maestro cams and bps
@merlinmartin6613
@merlinmartin6613 2 ай бұрын
8:48 the best transition ive ever seen. and great video!!
@perryanddoofenshmirt7480
@perryanddoofenshmirt7480 3 ай бұрын
you missed the removal of selecting firing modes on weapons
@TheMusicftw1
@TheMusicftw1 8 күн бұрын
Wait what?
@timmy5876
@timmy5876 Ай бұрын
It seems lazy to me how they haven’t put the P10 roni back to 20 bullets now the 1.5x is gone, it’s also lazy why sledge is still a 1 speed. I had a break from the game and i came back to realise sledge was obsolete and maybe i missed a season where he was OP idk but him being a 2 speed makes so much sense, there’s 3 speeds with better guns and abilities
@LucasLimapodcast
@LucasLimapodcast 2 ай бұрын
One of the most impactful change that I did not see anyone commenting on, is the removal of the natural dropshot, in the first year of the game is so fun dropshoting with ash acog.... good times.
@MrMegakickass
@MrMegakickass 2 ай бұрын
Nah fuck that shit anyone with a brain would agree that was a good change
@jaydenproctor8405
@jaydenproctor8405 3 ай бұрын
2:00 I actually argue that Tachanka is worse now. His turret lost to vert, but it blocked doorways as a bug, and was very strong spawnpeaking maps like kanal bridge.
@Genuinely_tweaking
@Genuinely_tweaking Ай бұрын
No tachanka was a full on meme chatacter before his rework he can actually deny plants a zone attackers from sites no his turret was useless cause you where just a sitting duck jn water waiting to get killed
@jaydenproctor8405
@jaydenproctor8405 Ай бұрын
@ he isn’t used on any map and is just a worse version of smoke. Also he has to swap guns to shoot fire so anyone can swing when he doesn’t have a gun. His primary lmg is slow and unreliable when there’s no turret shield so most Tachanka mains don’t even use it anymore. He was nerfed with his rework and he’s never been practical before or after the rework so it’s unnecessary. His turret didn’t have to be placed on very because of hard floors, dominated spawn peeks and had value even though he was a meme. He has a lower pick rate now than he used to.
@pj9708
@pj9708 20 күн бұрын
@@jaydenproctor8405ur a bot if u think he’s in anyway nerfed😂😊
@ana303_
@ana303_ 3 ай бұрын
as an avg diamond player, i can tell you that ping 2.0 is a good change. even in high elo lobby. its often time better to ping rather than guiding a teammate to a place which isnt a typical callout spot.
@NoisR
@NoisR 3 ай бұрын
and thats exactly the problem my guy xD isnt it enough to have a cam or drone to tell your mate where someone is? no u have to 100% ping his location? thats one of the worst changes in siege history and u can tell since then the quality of people went down people talk less people go less on cams etc it was just a bad change that wasnt needed
@ana303_
@ana303_ 3 ай бұрын
@@NoisR mate im from eu server and the times i play, ive 2 guys talking in french can't speak or understand English and then 1 guy doesn't talk n other guy singing. in EU n Asia where there's a language barrier. Things like this do help.
@NoisR
@NoisR 3 ай бұрын
@@ana303_ my old squad i used to play with consisted of one turkish guy, one brittish guy, one french guy and 2 germans so i know what im talking about
@scrp1o
@scrp1o 2 ай бұрын
Thanks, made me realize that the game is even less fun now than it was when i stopped playing a few years ago, guess i won't be downloading it again after all.
@SquashyButton
@SquashyButton 3 ай бұрын
My main problem with the shield rework is that with every shield Op now being able to sprint with their shield up, it kind of takes away what made Blitz unique. Blitz used to be the defacto aggressive shield Op, that's why you picked him over Monty or Fuze. But now, both Monty and Fuze can be nearly as aggressive as Blitz, while arguably bringing more utility as well. Yeah, Blitz has his flashes which are still useful, but that's really the only thing he has over Monty and Fuze right now.
@Walleyedwosaik
@Walleyedwosaik 3 ай бұрын
He also has an insane pistol like that pistols iron sights are so hot
@SquashyButton
@SquashyButton 3 ай бұрын
@@Walleyedwosaik Monty and Fuze’s pistols are both arguably better, and they both have options instead of being stuck with only one pistol.
@bradydean8570
@bradydean8570 3 ай бұрын
⁠@@Walleyedwosaikthe p12 is literally the worst “conventional pistol” (so not revolvers and such) in the game.
@Walleyedwosaik
@Walleyedwosaik 3 ай бұрын
@@bradydean8570 i just personally like the iron sights and what metric are you housing to determine that?
@Walleyedwosaik
@Walleyedwosaik 3 ай бұрын
@@SquashyButton fuzes pistol is better (when the sight lines up) but I have played Monty more than any other operator the past to seasons and nearly every kill I've gotten is off his shield not his pistol I hate his pistol so much again it's just personal preference though
@brandonwise2936
@brandonwise2936 2 ай бұрын
I main frost and I will say that I liked the rework. Nothing sucked more than getting downed on the other side of a map and just having to lay there until somebody either came and revived you or you eventually just died. Attackers are then one shot and they can’t run and leave a massive blood trail so it overall balanced out really well imo!
@ZephyxR6
@ZephyxR6 3 ай бұрын
The problem with shields rn is the fact that they have mele prioritization which makes a good player almost uncounterable enless you have multiple tmates around
@bradydean8570
@bradydean8570 3 ай бұрын
I disagree. I like the fact that shields have melee prioritization because it punishes people for letting the shield get too close to them. They should make it a little harder for Monty specifically to do that though. Like make him slower or something
@CaprinaeSL
@CaprinaeSL 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, God forbid if you're an op without explosives or a decent gun to suppress with. Even then, you might just get popped by a shield with crazy aim at longer range
@bradydean8570
@bradydean8570 3 ай бұрын
@@CaprinaeSL that’s why we have teammates! But if you’re solo q-d ur kinda boned lmao
@jaketeplov
@jaketeplov Ай бұрын
Something about any map changes and map removals bugs me. It took me so long to learn them all back in the day like around operation health and since then pretty much every map has either been redone or removed for no apparent reason to me. Like it get it some maps are a little to stupid for ranked like yacht and old theme park but just leave it in casual and quick match. They are still super fun compared to the current maps like lair and labs that are so horribly boring and un fun idk… just because the pro players and wannabe pro players don’t like house doesn’t mean it’s time to change it and then remove it or just because Bartlet U is a little unbalanced means it’s time to scrap it leave it in a playlist atleast bc some people still have fun on it. the more maps means variation and a higher retention rate amount players
@atroxed
@atroxed 3 ай бұрын
3:09 I would NOT be complaining if these were the only ranked maps
@yuh_bo6429
@yuh_bo6429 3 ай бұрын
Ong brother
@gabrielgutierrez2083
@gabrielgutierrez2083 3 ай бұрын
That's the dream 3
@certiko339
@certiko339 3 ай бұрын
i would
@certiko339
@certiko339 3 ай бұрын
you would too it would get so boring after a while
@wavingbuddy3535
@wavingbuddy3535 3 ай бұрын
What about the nerf to zofias gun and putting her a 1 speed with no withstand... Oh and making the reticles thicker than gridlock
@ManOfPillowDoom
@ManOfPillowDoom 3 ай бұрын
And her concussions aren't as effective
@Superglitchym
@Superglitchym 26 күн бұрын
Shields should’ve only done 5-10 damage before the rework but with a slight delay between the next melee and ads
@onlythefamm_dreezy
@onlythefamm_dreezy 3 ай бұрын
Im sort of shocked that the removal of nook’s silent step wasnt mentioned. In my opinion, it needed to be removed but a lot of others would disagree
@The_voices_are_getting_louder_
@The_voices_are_getting_louder_ 2 ай бұрын
11:55 this is why we say to never let you cook
@shanemcconville6533
@shanemcconville6533 Күн бұрын
i played siege from lion and finka came out and stopped playing right around flores and when i came back which was idek when the first game i played i tried to use old meta tactics like the old valk cam on kafe that stuck the the building opposite piano rappels and then i also threw one up out of the skylight and then when i died i went to check them and it came up that dopey symbol n that when i realised the game has changed so much
@shanemcconville6533
@shanemcconville6533 Күн бұрын
i also never knew that people could revive themselves same game i was on for a ace and 1v2 id one down and was peeking the other and i kill the other n the game doesnt end im like i thought i had him down so i go to kill him thinking it was zofia and i get shot in the back by ash so i just had to learn the hard way with alot of things
@jamaljacquaviontenavionIII
@jamaljacquaviontenavionIII 2 ай бұрын
I absolutely despise how they nerfed nokk to the ground by removing her silent step. She’s a pointless operator now.
@Consion-pr6vq
@Consion-pr6vq 2 ай бұрын
8:39 was a good transition
@PessimysticBlueByrd
@PessimysticBlueByrd 3 ай бұрын
One change I despised was the laser sight rework. Laser sights getting reworked put shotguns in a worse position than they were prior to Heavy Mettle, since they relied on the hipfire buff the sight gave them.
@im_flat
@im_flat 2 ай бұрын
No, they really didn’t, unless you were bad with them.
@grapeR6
@grapeR6 2 ай бұрын
I think you missed when ash lost her acog in burnt horizon, when Maestro lost his acog in shifting tides, and the ranked changes in crystal guard when diamond 3 and 2 were added and platinum 2 and 1 were lowered in mmr
@upsydisy
@upsydisy 21 күн бұрын
as a valorant and rainbow six player, ranked 2.0 is literally one of the worst reworks, i was sick of the hidden mmr that makes you go if worst or better players in valorant (when i was silver i once queued in a diamond lobby, and as a diamond ive played in several gold lobbies) and having the same experience in rainbow six makes me want to drop it like im doing w valo, cause its a 5v5 competitive game and when i get in lower lobbies i have to overperform to not lose rp
@RicegumRicebum
@RicegumRicebum 24 күн бұрын
Most controversial of all time besides the ACOGs was definitely the removal of old quick lean. I’ve never seen an uproar like that since those days and anyone else that played back then will remember how people thought it would kill the game by removing all skill from quickpeeking. Even to this day I miss old lean, it was so much cleaner and so much more fun :/
@fazen7414
@fazen7414 3 ай бұрын
The other least favorite change to me is the removal of dead bodies in North Star, it's the only remaining fun stuff in casual. Even the free to play mobile game Arena Breakout has server sided bodies...
@ManOfPillowDoom
@ManOfPillowDoom 3 ай бұрын
RIGHT? it took all immersion out the game for me...
@squigglyline5021
@squigglyline5021 22 күн бұрын
Omg I remember people hiding in bodies while people planted or after they planted and would hop up and kill the other person 😂😂 man I miss that
@wingbeat4037
@wingbeat4037 2 ай бұрын
I think spawn protection in quick match is a good thing, but the pre-setup sites are actually the worst thing ever. On oregon basement, after losing the first round i was like ok i'll pick this op and play in elbow but the rotate that was there round one got double reinforced automatically in round 2. Chose my operator and loadout to play a specific position and the game just says no
@God-Griz
@God-Griz 2 ай бұрын
Throughout all these crazy updates and even the ranked 2.0 change. One thing has always stayed the same...my teammates still dont know how to play siege.
@Eric_Nguyen.
@Eric_Nguyen. 3 ай бұрын
Top 3 changes I hated were the ADS time, Lesion and Echo invisibility gadget no more. The most hated is the removal of Terrorist Hunt. There's so many cheaters that the game is unbalanced and it's said the majority of og Siege players have left the game. Even me who begun Siege during Operation Health. I touch the game now and then, but ADS timing is horrible, Lesion was my main, but with the arc implemented to know where your thing will land actually sucks, and the only way to actually have fun is to have friends to play with. I'd rather play Overwatch 2 and Fortnite at this point.
@NoisR
@NoisR 3 ай бұрын
bro rip thunt the goat mode... i miss those big boys that blew themselves up
@style5075
@style5075 3 ай бұрын
lesion is still extremely strong; just place them at the sides of the door, and its practically the same as it being invisible. And the ads time was needed; the game was a tdm and not even slightly tactical. Now the game rewards playing slower and prepared
@ManOfPillowDoom
@ManOfPillowDoom 3 ай бұрын
Bro you can turn that arc thingy off if it bothers you that much
@a_normalperson398
@a_normalperson398 3 ай бұрын
@@style5075 its literally a kapkan trap if u put it side of the door but less damage less reward
@sniper0073088
@sniper0073088 3 ай бұрын
Skins in Siege are not very different from those in fortnite anymore as well
@aidanhammer6968
@aidanhammer6968 Ай бұрын
Remember when Ubi got rid of bullet holes(can't see through them).
@MaZz-e8m
@MaZz-e8m 9 күн бұрын
8:48 the transition was cold 🥶
@thebrotatochip32
@thebrotatochip32 2 ай бұрын
the one thing I see as a relatively new player to siege with the recruit rework isn't even about the recruit it's the fact that you get more operators when you start. and this was nice (for me at least) because I got to play with more variety. and I know that most already have all of the operators and can see how the rework didn't really give anything new
@glicky7757
@glicky7757 29 күн бұрын
cooking nades hurt me the most, as a sledge main it was his only feature over buck- now the character just sucks.
@aaronpower99
@aaronpower99 3 ай бұрын
This video stands out from your other videos and I’m not sure why but it’s for all the right reasons! Great vid
@justinguerrero9591
@justinguerrero9591 Ай бұрын
this video made me frustrated at most these changes all over again lol good content though
@simeonvalchev8106
@simeonvalchev8106 8 күн бұрын
I'm playing siege for year and a half, and from my experience, I think that they should buff some of the gadgets and agents in this video as Beast mentioned. Like Solis's gadget, cooking up Granades, Aruni's and Mozzie's p10 roni ammo capacity, the f2 vertical grip and ping system. Overall if these things get changed back in their initial form, I think the game will be much funnier to play.
@justakettlehelm1673
@justakettlehelm1673 2 ай бұрын
it's interesting to see that throughout the entire game's lifespan, up to 2024, that the rift between the elite players/super tryhards, and normal people. Why Ubi will choose to listen to their golden 5% over the rest of the community will always baffle me, especially considering that pretty much all of the objectively good changes were contested by the 5%.
@assassinopyro912
@assassinopyro912 2 ай бұрын
I am literally mad at ubisoft for such stupid nerfs & buffs . One thing you missed was zofia withstand ability.
@MrMegakickass
@MrMegakickass 2 ай бұрын
Withstand made no difference to 99% of zofia games and it didn't make sense that she got it, made way more sense to give it to rook
@l3wismoreman9227
@l3wismoreman9227 22 күн бұрын
11:07 I’m surprised that no one pulled at stunt and just jumped onto the stage during their reveal talks about the changes you mentioned and either attacked them or something like that slap that happened at the OSCAR with Will Smith.
@Shinochaos
@Shinochaos 2 ай бұрын
you also forgot with the shield rework, they also got melee priority which basically made getting close impossible because they can just cancel your melee by meleeing right after you did. so you had to run away with wreckless abandon and either die to the shield player or someone nearby.
@coffeeimpala5189
@coffeeimpala5189 2 ай бұрын
I think they should remove being able to yellow ping with drones. To balance this out, make drones a little bit quieter and not make as much noise when they slightly move. Maybe add a new drone that could camouflage after being still for 15 seconds
@LilPeroxideJr.
@LilPeroxideJr. 2 ай бұрын
My least favorite thing(s) is everything that happened when they introduced Zero... Fuck the new sensitivity changes so on and so forth. That season and ON has been NOTHING but downhill. The recoil/shooting/mechanics were staples for me. It felt so satisfying in every way and was very learnable. The learning curve made it satisfying once you got there due to a lot of factors like no mini-map. Shooting is not fun and whatever they did to the visual effects when shooting/controlling recoil is embarassing. Why would they remove the vert grip for Twitch?? At least keep it for aesthetics and remove the recoil buff ffs. Something petty would be them removing voicelines/reactions about the environment. Also them removing Mira's original VA... Such bullshit, we get some horrible sounding VA talking from her gullet now because theyre full of shit and "wanted to do something" with Mira instead of the other year 1 ops.. Ohhh idk lets say Castle or instead use Jackal as opposed to changing Miras VA for some deep voiced ass woman? The game has no staying power other than what it is. Rb6 will always have that charm like Tarkov due to no other game being like them. Theyre the og's. Fuck cod s&d and fuck pubg (incase anyone wants to be dumb and bring those unrelated games up, there are parallels sure but not what im talking about). Rainbow used to be fun.
@TheMusicftw1
@TheMusicftw1 8 күн бұрын
What did they do with Mira exactly?
@Xedigon
@Xedigon 2 ай бұрын
While I don't play the operator, I believe the removal of Nokk's silent step is worthy of mention here
@orangeman2100
@orangeman2100 2 ай бұрын
The problem with the Frost rework is that there were, and still are, other operators that should have been nerfed or reworked instead. This change negatively impacted Frost and has significantly lowered her pick rate
@w1lrand3.
@w1lrand3. 3 ай бұрын
I genuinely think every single change has been positive here except for sledge being a 3 speed tachanka and recruit reworks. The game is very balanced now with no broken operators or metas
@sniper0073088
@sniper0073088 3 ай бұрын
If you think so, i got news for you. You should visit a mental facility.
@FUTURISTICBSM22
@FUTURISTICBSM22 3 ай бұрын
ive not seen anything about it here. but the glass change isnt too bad for maestro. he can still use his ability the same. he just cant see before opening the glass. and the mira change was needed. if you can get that close to it, then you should be able to destroy it in some way, shape, or form.
@lochlan9533
@lochlan9533 Ай бұрын
the fact that its the vast majority of "balance" changes that are on this list and have VERY valid reasons as to why they were just bad is astonishing ubisoft is treating siege like the h1z1 dev's did and are just ruining their game with terrible updates
@Stolentachos
@Stolentachos Ай бұрын
We can also add to the controversial list the nerf on cav with her steps not being completely silent or echo drones not being invisible at all both nerfs was hated by a lot of people including me for the echo part they ruined him and left him in dust sadly
@maximelebrocoli
@maximelebrocoli 3 ай бұрын
I remember the shotgun rework controversy like it was yesterday... I think it deserved a place in the list haha
@chemicaldeath9866
@chemicaldeath9866 2 ай бұрын
I love how they are fine with the entire defending team being able to revive themselves with Rook and Doc, BUT LITERALLY ONE SINGULAR FUCKING PRO LEAGUE GAME GETS DECIDED BY ZOFIA, and she needs nerfed???💀🤡 I literally cant wait for Ubislop to go out of business
@SharplyDressedPlagueDoctor
@SharplyDressedPlagueDoctor 2 ай бұрын
ikr like they are meant to be the best at the game and they die to a guy on 1hp lmao
@Justln-6
@Justln-6 2 ай бұрын
Once again I have to explain this to people who have no logic or knowledge. So, the reason why Withstand got removed WAS NOT BECAUSE OF THE MNM vs Rogue game with Yuzus. That clip had little to no influence on the balancing change, that actual balancing change came 2 weeks after that clip. Do you think Ubisoft does nerfs after 2 weeks from a Pro League clip? No.
@Justln-6
@Justln-6 2 ай бұрын
Did they nerf Meusli instantly after her intoduction with her broken Banshees? No. It took 2 months. 2 MONTHS TO CHANGE. And if someone like Virtue at the (who played a lot of Melusi) got an insane clip that influenced a round would've they had changed it in the next patch? Probably not.
@Justln-6
@Justln-6 2 ай бұрын
They balanced off metrics and ban rates at the time. Not a clip from Pro League.
@emilianocastillejos1330
@emilianocastillejos1330 28 күн бұрын
Dont worry seeing how badly they are doing right now they could go under in 2025, at least then their IPs could go to someone who actually knows what they’re doing
@SkovyDovy
@SkovyDovy 2 ай бұрын
How mine craft handles things being too over powered is by buffing everything thing else, or at least in most cases. If Ubisoft did this the game would be so much more fun
@blesfemy
@blesfemy 2 ай бұрын
Tachanka is such an easy fix. Mount his gadget to his gun, so u don't have to swap in between them, and give him all it's ammo outright, so u don't have to releaod. It's not that complicated.
@thorgrin7680
@thorgrin7680 19 күн бұрын
Ranked 2.0 is a shitshow for me, as I am someone who plays this game off and on at a silver-gold level depending on how much I have played around that time. After Ranked 2.0, i have consistently gone like hard negative because I just get my shit stomped by the one person on the other team who just out gunskills me so bad that I feel like i just am objectively useless. Getting into the start with copper where everyone should be like okay at best and getting dunked on by an ash fully running at my face every round is not fun.
@haichi5313
@haichi5313 3 ай бұрын
controversial opinion : Ubi does literally anything in R6 and it will be labelled as controversial one way or another
@brodhaosas9744
@brodhaosas9744 Ай бұрын
I've been playing this game since operation black ice and the season that made me quit was shadow legacy but there was a season that changed something very controversial you didn't mention. The season that introduced maverick and clash, this season changed the recoil pattern for every gun in the game, made them ''easy to master'' but personally this change made the gun play in the game very boring and unrealistic.
@venom9370
@venom9370 2 ай бұрын
Runout timer is eh, but I feel the Maestro eye shattered glass, the cameras outside and sledge smg 11 were definitely dumb. I feel they should've given him SMG11 back if they were gonna make him a 3 armor, sure he'd struggle to run away but he'd have one more option to use potentially. I hate they took away grenade cooking and slightly the throw back mechanic. Same with recruit and the quick match changes.
@Bl1tzcuit
@Bl1tzcuit 3 ай бұрын
The amount of camera transitions in the video is crazy
@Linline02
@Linline02 Ай бұрын
The fact that i stoped playing r6 in 2020 and only knew of 1 of these makes me glad i stopeed playing. Why are 19 of these from the later half of the r6 life cycle
@hexmaniacdio248
@hexmaniacdio248 20 күн бұрын
It always makes me laugh that people thought that frag grenades used to require skill
@ManOfPillowDoom
@ManOfPillowDoom 3 ай бұрын
Another controversial change that they quickly went back on was when they gave Ying 4! Gandelas back in steel wave (i think) which was already overkill even after they had just nerfed her before that... It was completely unnecessary and just made playing against her tedious af I believe they went back on it a month after they implemented it. i can't really remember since i stopped playing around that time
@Monke16-anti_furry
@Monke16-anti_furry 4 күн бұрын
The only ACOGS they should add back in my opinion are Wamai, Melusi, Maestro, Alibi, and Jaeger, and Maybe smoke and mute smg-11 only
@sethlee8465
@sethlee8465 3 ай бұрын
The thing about cooking nades as an attacker is it took a tremendous amount of skill and communication before yellow ping.
@im_flat
@im_flat 2 ай бұрын
Eh, not that much. You just needed a teammate to watch a drone for you and have basic map knowledge regarding floors. Nade from below was always cheap. It was satisfying to do but sucked to be on the end of.
@sethlee8465
@sethlee8465 2 ай бұрын
@im_flat yeah but in all my time playing it never happened to me. I think there's plenty of ways to circumvent it before it happens
@Echocompany2-7
@Echocompany2-7 Ай бұрын
The ranked 2.0 has got to be the worst most confusing “balance change” Ubisoft has ever done. Like if there is skill based match making that is just fine for unranked. For ranked if I’m in copper I should be with copper bronze lobbies. Not champs and emeralds. Like. I can’t progress through the ranks if I’m being matched up with guys 10 times better than me all the time. Also the rp system makes no sense. If I drag out and carry my team but lose a match I lose 26-30 rp. When I win a match and drag out I get 18. When I win a match and don’t do anything I get 18. And when I lose a match and don’t do any I lose 26. Like I’m damned if I do damned if I don’t. I feel like I’m being punished playing the game. For doing nothing more than playing the game. Like. Bruh. It’s so dumb bring ranked back the way it was or hell keep how it is just make the ranks mean something so I get matched up with my skill level.
@ImMimi.x
@ImMimi.x 7 күн бұрын
comparing ranked 2.0 to a battlepass ive never heard before but is such a quick and snappy way to display most of my feelings towards how awful of a system it is
@jjvile
@jjvile 25 күн бұрын
I will always believe that removing Nokk's silent step is the dumbest change they've made (I am a Nokk main and VERY biased)
@tracers7215
@tracers7215 8 күн бұрын
imo the only thing that needed to change with solis was a bit of range and the ability to use it in the prep phase they killer her pick rate
@szilardgoor675
@szilardgoor675 Ай бұрын
i hate the fact that they removed cooking grenades,i loved doing that
@timmy5876
@timmy5876 Ай бұрын
Ping 2.0 is great in my opinion, however i did prefer when u couldn’t ping on cameras, its so easy now to yellow ping a spot on a camera for someone to C4 or wall bang, to tell someone where someone is before u had to use comms or red ping them which let them know they were pinged. Whilst i love getting kills from yellow pings through walls it would be more balanced the other way
@aronn19
@aronn19 3 ай бұрын
Imo for Solis I would say alr, remove her impacts and this new scanning mechanic is good for balancing but her time usage, can't use while charging and range distance nerf are things they should change back cause it makes her (imo) kinda useless
@brandentheultramangofighter
@brandentheultramangofighter 2 ай бұрын
If you wanna fix spawn peaks or mfs who jump out to spawn kill just add a feature that the first 60 seconds of the game if you try to break a window/jump out to spawn/peak kill a sniper will insta kill you for even trying
@sissel2
@sissel2 3 ай бұрын
Remember when if you said a naughty word, it would just outright kick you from the game and ban you for 30 minutes? Spanish speakers would be saying “con” but add an extra o and then get banned and lose rank points for this.
@Car7789hhsshshhe
@Car7789hhsshshhe 2 ай бұрын
The cooking grenades thing is so dumb to me it was so rewarding to get grenade kills and if they wanted to remove grenading from below all they had to do was restrict grenade damage thru floors not remove the mechanic all together
@halonoah7746
@halonoah7746 27 күн бұрын
Nokk rework, Echo, and hell even Jager ads rework were massive
@awesomenesscc.663
@awesomenesscc.663 26 күн бұрын
Massive?
@awesomenesscc.663
@awesomenesscc.663 26 күн бұрын
LOWWW TAPER FADE
@simon.r.k
@simon.r.k 3 ай бұрын
Gonna say right now at the start of the Video, my prediction is that it is primarely gun nerfs "that ruin the fun" or gadget buffs that make the problem even more oppressive.
@assyriancomedycentral1753
@assyriancomedycentral1753 11 күн бұрын
ADS TIME, SHIELDS, RANK 2.0, and no one is talking bout this but anyone else miss when they released two operators and a map that they both from.,
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