BMW 1M Coupe Review (M3 Fighters Pt.2) - Everyday Driver

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@1pilot34
@1pilot34 9 жыл бұрын
You guys sure know how to do some of the best if not the best car reviews in the net. Driving is not just about numbers, it's the experience, and you guys are showing that. Keep up the good work!!!!!!
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 9 жыл бұрын
carlos mendonca Thank you! We work very hard to create our reviews, and greatly appreciate this compliment. We're glad to have you watching!
@JoTokutora
@JoTokutora 8 жыл бұрын
+carlos mendonca I know, I keep re watching the m series videos. The two reviewers really compliment each other well! Great work guys!
@GlennsCarCollection
@GlennsCarCollection 7 жыл бұрын
I thought when I bought my M2, I would sell the 1M, but the 1M is the better car and I would never sell it
@mitchmaloney5888
@mitchmaloney5888 3 жыл бұрын
Famous last words....it's up for sale now. Did you sell it yet?
@BlackHeartModer
@BlackHeartModer 2 жыл бұрын
How is statement holding up?
@Huh-jx8kd
@Huh-jx8kd 8 ай бұрын
Did you sell it?
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 11 жыл бұрын
Insane, isn't it! They are so in demand that anyone who owns one now can sell it for more than they bought it for. We looked up nationwide 1Ms for sale and all were listed for more than the original MSRP.
@douglasf13
@douglasf13 4 жыл бұрын
The 1 series backseat is actually quite usable. My family of three go in trips in it all the time, and full size adults fit back there for short to medium trips. My 911's backseat was considerably less usable.
@nfr201
@nfr201 11 жыл бұрын
Great video guys. I am an E90 M3 owner, but I really like the 1M. I truly believe that the 1M is the real successor to the E46 M3. The problem with the 1M is the price premium you will have to pay to get one. And for the money the Mustang is a great value. Good cars all around... going to go wash my M3 now.
@gt_grandtouring
@gt_grandtouring 11 жыл бұрын
I'd pick the 1M over the M3 too. The 1M is a reincarnation of the old M3 which is why I like it so much.
@StephenMorganCanada
@StephenMorganCanada 9 жыл бұрын
Ditched an M3, my 5th BMW for the Boss, ordered sight unseen. At first the lack of refinement made me doubt my decision, but 4 years on, a tonne of track day with No Issues (Can't say that about any Bimmer I've owned), the only cars I would swap for, maybe, are a 911 GT3 or the new GT350R. Already I've owned this car longer than any since my first '69 Cougar over 30 years ago, and it looks like I may never part with it.
@SuckaBlam
@SuckaBlam 11 жыл бұрын
Every time time I see a video from Everyday Driver, i get extremely excited. It makes me feel like a little boy on Christmas morning.
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 11 жыл бұрын
Great question. We generally consider price (watch our Golf R comparison). But the 1M is a bit of an oddball - new it was cheaper than an M3, but skewed terribly because of supply and demand. As far as maintenance costs go, we don't avoid it but we don't focus on it either: Drive great cars hard and they cost you money... you have to pay to play! We believe that spending money on a car you love is worth it - but everyone's budget and tolerance varies. Thanks for watching and liking what we do!
@Crankkthatchris
@Crankkthatchris 11 жыл бұрын
For those complaining about the price, it's completely worth paying for . I own an e92 335i m sport and it drives amazing. I've also driven the 1m, as It May start at 48k the price will continue to increase even if its used just because its limited. Look at the price now, they are around 70k
@steveh949
@steveh949 6 жыл бұрын
I Recently bought a 1m sport 2 door convertible 118d factory 140 bhp with 221 ft/lb torque and had a stage 1 BMW remap which boosted it by 43% = 201 BHP and 316 ft/lb torque or; 429 n/m torque, and, it transformed the car for £300. now I know that's not a huge amount of power but it's very close to the figures from the 1m 123 m sport=204 bhp and 295 lb/ft torque or, 400 n/m torque depending how it's measured. an option well worth considering. The 1m is a great car to drive with proper hydraulic steering response and all the M trim and build quality you can expect from a BMW. + The open-air touring, I love the styling of both the coupe and the convertible. I was never a fan of most BMW models until the 1m Sport. now I love them.
@silvias13freak
@silvias13freak 11 жыл бұрын
I love your editing and multiple camera angles. This show is very polished. Excellent work gentlemen
@sergioserrano4167
@sergioserrano4167 11 жыл бұрын
This might just be the best 3 way review/comparison I've ever seen. Thank you and keep up the good work.
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 11 жыл бұрын
A Huge THANKS for saying that! We do work very hard to make TV quality production for the web, and we do it cheaper than just about anyone. The show began completely self funded, and now makes enough to cover some of the expenses. We've spoken to Velocity and others but so far none of the appropriate channels want an honest car show. Unless that changes, we will continue making stuff for the web... and with sponsors and more cash we will keep this quality and make them faster. Thanks again!
@seito1276
@seito1276 11 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love that you guys said that! Honest car show and you can tell. You guys have not made one show I dislike. Thanks so much.
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 11 жыл бұрын
Thrilled you found us! There's always more cars we want to review than we have money and time, but we do take note of all requests. We're very pleased to hear you like what we do, and we hope you'll share our show with others!
@cbj54
@cbj54 11 жыл бұрын
Great reviews. I'm a Boss owner and you guys nailed it. I've driven an M3 and it is a wonderful car but I'm more of a muscle car guy. Too me the "rawness" of the Boss is what makes it great. I've owned the car for over a year and still haven't turned on the radio...the Boss makes its own soundtrack.
@gene978
@gene978 11 жыл бұрын
EPIC! Both you guys did it AGIAN. I know the cars speak for themselves but for those of us who don't only have time to watch your reviews boy oh boy I feel like a little kid after. I got more excited then the 2 of you! Haha. Damn! Now, I'm looking up used 3M's and Boss 302's.
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 11 жыл бұрын
Typo fixed. Very glad you liked this series, thanks for watching!
@JoshB___
@JoshB___ 11 жыл бұрын
The problem with the 1M coupe is the price. Whenever I manage to see one of these for sale, its priced way over the sticker price when it was new. Its priced at the same price as a BRAND NEW M3 if not even more! And to me nothing is going to sound better than a V8 that has a redline of 8400 RPM. So it would have to be the M3 for me. Keep up the awesome show guys!
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 11 жыл бұрын
We're thrilled that our M3 review was helpful in finding a great car that you love. The E90 M3 is, obviously, a really great car. And we're glad this comparison resonated with you. Thanks for watching!
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 11 жыл бұрын
We're in the process of scheduling an ATS as part of a cool comparison. Thanks for the thought, and thanks for watching!
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 11 жыл бұрын
Focus ST review in the works... Thanks for being a fan of what we do!
@sheldonwhite4960
@sheldonwhite4960 9 жыл бұрын
the BMW 1 M is perfect for me
@Rockit181
@Rockit181 11 жыл бұрын
Outstanding channel! I've watched every car review channel there is big and small. I love Every Day Driver!!!
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 11 жыл бұрын
As we said, we absolutely agree with you. Honestly... We could do a whole series of cars "vs. the M3" - but that would probably start to feel a bit repetitive! The 997 is a very interesting match-up. We appreciate your thoughts!
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you! We spend a lot of time on each piece - it means we aren't fast, but we try to offer great quality. We're thrilled you noticed and appreciated the effort. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@JavierCR25
@JavierCR25 7 жыл бұрын
As always, you're reviews are great! I've been watching all of your videos since I just discovered your channel a couple of months ago. I love these reviews, precise, good appreciations of the cars done by 2 true car guys. I love Mustangs, but the 1 series and this 1M i just adore even though people thinks they're ugly.
@KuyaArbee
@KuyaArbee 11 жыл бұрын
BMW 1M is a collectors car! very RARE! and very Special BMW! One of a Kind
@Forsakenrage02
@Forsakenrage02 11 жыл бұрын
Sick review guys! I'm trying to work out getting a 2009-11 M3 e90 since your review. Awesome to see this new series! Note for titles though: both are labeled "Pt. 1"
@bonz1481
@bonz1481 11 жыл бұрын
Awesome review guys. Love your work and you nailed it. As an ex E46 M3 owner and a current 1M owner, you nailed it. The Boss is a great car too, but just not there on the refinement just yet. The 1M in my opinion is what the new M3 should have been. Back to the roots. Old fashioned 6MT (no fancy dual clutch stuff here) and a whole lot of fun. BTW, didn't even get the NAV as it gets in the way!
@yankee2yankee216
@yankee2yankee216 7 жыл бұрын
Actually, I see lots of excellent examples of the 1M for a tinch more than $50K, with under 50K on the clock. One with 12K is no doubt worth $60K. MY personal, economical choice is a 128i with the 6-speed, which while lacking some of the speed, shares many of the same dynamics of the 1M (can't afford an M Car quite yet, but when I can...). In any case, for me, it's the dynamics that matter most. I like to drive; I don't care THAT much about the actual numbers.
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 11 жыл бұрын
Actually we don't script our comments or rehearse prior - what you're hearing is our gut reaction, an improv stream-of-consciousness. We're glad you like it! If you'd like, this and lots of other facts about the show are discussed in our FAQ videos. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@specop12
@specop12 11 жыл бұрын
some of the best car videos on youtube, subbed
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 11 жыл бұрын
Actually this is an area between Malibu and Westlake, but we're glad you like!
@4esttube
@4esttube 6 жыл бұрын
My 135i was $4k less than an 1M when I bought it and is now worth nothing - while the 1M has only appreciated.
@douglasf13
@douglasf13 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, kinda crazy not to buy the 1M over the 135i when new...now the prices are so far apart that the smart money is to buy a cheap 135i and mod it to be better than a 1M (although it won't collectible.)
@mtorras80
@mtorras80 11 жыл бұрын
Great job guys! I´ve been watching your videos for quite a wile now. Always made a very good job, now this one is the best!
@hyungwoo0312
@hyungwoo0312 11 жыл бұрын
It's because only about 6,300 were made worldwide AND it received universal praise, so a lot of car enthusiasts are looking for this car.
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 11 жыл бұрын
We really appreciate you saying this. We strive very hard to be honest, relatable, and entertaining. We're thrilled you like what we do and encourage you to share it with others. Lots more on the way, so we hope you'll subscribe and stick around. We read every comment, and we welcome everyone's thoughts. Thanks for watching!
@Atrax1207
@Atrax1207 11 жыл бұрын
I love these 1M's. It looks really really cool. Awesome car.
@StephenMorganCanada
@StephenMorganCanada 11 жыл бұрын
Owned the M3. Now own a Boss. More fun for less money, but I'll admit I never had the chance to grab a 1M. Enthusiast cars all. Nice review.
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 11 жыл бұрын
For some buyers, yes, absolutely! But Porsche has never compared the 911 to the M3, and both of these cars were targeted and compared to the M3 from the beginning. We've got something appropriate for the 911 in the works, so stay tuned! Thanks for watching and commenting!
@DJMotoVlogs
@DJMotoVlogs 11 жыл бұрын
I think you guys should to stick to Web TV. I only say that because I love your work and I feel like a big network might make you guys dilute your work appeal to a broader audience. I feel like this format is perfect and speaks to the enthusiasts more. Good luck guys!
@mcrowley8460
@mcrowley8460 3 жыл бұрын
only two of them aged well the boss 302 looks a little odd now
@WhiteTgr135i
@WhiteTgr135i 11 жыл бұрын
Hello Everyday Driver, fantastic review like always! By any chance can you guys review the BMW 135i / 135iS?
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 11 жыл бұрын
We hope you found and watched Part 1 of this comparison - it's almost 9 minutes of commentary on the Boss 302. The Boss footage on this 1M review is just a quick refresher of that piece. Thanks for watching this and we hope you'll watch more!
@DavidMonsour
@DavidMonsour 5 жыл бұрын
I drove an m2 and my friends m3 and then drove a 1m. I now own a 1m and I'm not sure there is much out there right now that I would replace it with. The m2 was nice but it felt boring and the m3 was just heavy in every way. Not to mention my 1m put a bus length on my freinds m3 on a highway run.
@touringteg
@touringteg 5 жыл бұрын
I came to the same conclusion after driving e92 m3 6spd then 1M. I bought the 1M. The m3 yas the v8 and more space but the 1M is just a pleasure to drive.
@Breakchecks
@Breakchecks 4 жыл бұрын
Contemplating a 1M w 70k miles vs m2 w 30k miles. $7500 more too. What say Ye?
@StreetCruizer
@StreetCruizer 11 жыл бұрын
great video once again. I salute you. Just 2 minor additions: I think the 1M is more what the M3 used to be in it's early days. If you compare it to the original E30 M3, it's much more like it: a small, sporty, easy to toss around BMW. The problem I've got with it: Too small for your only car, and too ordinary for a fun/enthusiast car. And the other one: You can get almost the same engine in an 135i - I'm not sure if it was sold in the US - but if it is, you can save a lot compared to the 1M.
@FUSIONchris
@FUSIONchris 9 жыл бұрын
2011 not 2012
@CanineMinefield
@CanineMinefield 11 жыл бұрын
I find it amusing that EDD's first M3 vid helped actually helped me decide to go with the M3 (never having driven one) but I was also considering the Mustang (had driven) at the time. Then about a year later this comparo pops up. In the end I'm certain I made the right choice for me. Now I'm sure I wouldn't have been unhappy with the Boss, I'm also sure that I'm happier with the M.
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 11 жыл бұрын
You'll see the "... Last Time" title during the Boss 302 section of this video. That little clip is just a few seconds of the 7+ minutes spent on the Boss in Part 1. If you're watching on a computer, there's also a clickable link on screen during that portion. We'll make sure the link is also available in the description of this piece. Hope that helps and thanks for watching!
@MrJonaske
@MrJonaske 11 жыл бұрын
Short easy answers production of the 1M is keeping them from making more X1 models. The plant was supposed to send X1s to the US, but the US launch of the X1 has been delayed for a year because they can't make enough for Europe and the US.
@nettle97008
@nettle97008 11 жыл бұрын
@3:05 "This car feels like it's fresh out of prison, ready to kick your ass and rob a bank!" lol
@e4t662
@e4t662 11 жыл бұрын
This car has already achieved legendary status, not unlike the E30 M3 did in the 80's-I sold my '88 M3 (perfect condition), 107K miles for just under 35 grand in 2012.....
@yenmano
@yenmano 11 жыл бұрын
Are you rehearsing what you want to say when you're in the car? It still looks genuine and you're doing a good job at multi-tasking! Great quality video. It's a shame the M1/135 was one year production... I should have gotten it instead of my e90 330xi.
@pixelfahnderTV
@pixelfahnderTV 11 жыл бұрын
Youre so right, the 1 m is much more aggresvie than the m3, love it every day and so happy to own one :D
@venom5809
@venom5809 11 жыл бұрын
What the M3 used to be and should be. Should have bought one when they first came out, definitely going to be a collector car.
@briancopeland67
@briancopeland67 11 жыл бұрын
Beautiful photography! What was used to film these segments?
@lithium332
@lithium332 11 жыл бұрын
How does the M3 and 1M compare with the Cayman S that you both also gave 4 stars for awhile back?
@IT_Farhan
@IT_Farhan 11 жыл бұрын
It would be nice if you guys showed footage of the 302 being driven along with commentary
@WC3isBetterThanReforged
@WC3isBetterThanReforged 11 жыл бұрын
I know Cadillac hasn't released an ATS-V yet but how do you think the ATS stacks up? What's your thoughts on the Lexus IS-F? Great videos guys.
@mrj8705
@mrj8705 11 жыл бұрын
I love your review of these cars guys. Always wanted a Boss but now I cant decide! ARGH!! In the future, I'd love to see you guys should do some AMG reviews too. Like the C63...
@DTkixx
@DTkixx 11 жыл бұрын
Can you give us the date when the S2000, Rx8, and brz comparison come out?
@midengine210
@midengine210 11 жыл бұрын
Great review! All great cars. The 302 is also the only Mustang I would consider. It sounds absolutely amazing.
@adzmorris
@adzmorris 11 жыл бұрын
Just to confuse things even more, how about throwing a C63 AMG in the mix? I have not driven the 1M (all sold in Australia before they got here) or the Mustang (not sold in Australia) but have driven the M3 and C63 back to back and in my opinion, found the C63 to have the edge on the M3 in the personality and involvement department. Love to know your thoughts?
@kdu8004
@kdu8004 11 жыл бұрын
I pick the M3 sedan. IT just amazes me how practical it can be. 4 doors, lovely interior with all the creature comforts you can think of and if it wasnt for the badge, the common people wouldn't even know there is 420 screaming horses lurking under the hood. Just something about 4 door sport sedan with v8's that just makes me all jittery inside...
@evanescent03
@evanescent03 11 жыл бұрын
great review(s)! keep it up. these are 3 cars on my list of cars to upgrade to... i have an e46 m3 which is a great track car but of course we always want morreee! haha. other cars i'm looking at in the $40-45k range are C6 ZO6 (or GS?) and a Cayman S. would've been nice to see those in the mix but understand u gotta pick/choose. i think at the end you would've had a similar conclusion "all five are 4-Star cars ... we like them all and it's just preference now". take care & keep em coming!
@Sykohtic
@Sykohtic 11 жыл бұрын
Well in all fairness to the Cobra, the Euro-Spec E36 had only 286 hp up until the '97 model year, at which time it made the near 40 hp jump (proportioning the torque gain to the hp gain, approximately). The US spec E36's, as you said, maintained 240 hp pretty indefinitely over the E36 M3 lifespan, though I think there may have been like a 10 or 15 hp jump to like 250. I think part of the thing between these two cars is, not outright beat one another, but put them on level grounds to compete.
@TechWiseforSeniors
@TechWiseforSeniors 11 жыл бұрын
You guys should do a hot hatch shootout between the ford focus st, vw gti and mazdaspeed 3. Great videos but I wish you could do more of them. And one last thing if you guys had to choose a car that starts under 30 grand what would you pick
@darius112
@darius112 11 жыл бұрын
Another great one guys. Who is driving the 3rd car?
@autonathan
@autonathan 11 жыл бұрын
The problem I have with the Boss 302 is that you pay a premium for a car that does drive better, but is basically a base model Mustang as far as equipment goes. I would pay more for either BMW to get a nicer interior and more equipment. Not to mention the more premium brand.
@ourfutureisdark
@ourfutureisdark 11 жыл бұрын
Im happy they still come Manuel, 2012 cars now a days are always paddle clutch, i think they destroy the driving experience what do you guys think?
@EzMDr
@EzMDr 11 жыл бұрын
Is it possible for you guys to do a comparison on ACURA TL SHL AWD 6 speed Vs Volvo S60 AWD VS Lexus G350 awd ?
@Flabernat
@Flabernat 11 жыл бұрын
I thought Ford isn't making the Boss anymore(I could be wrong)... Did you guys consider the Camaro 1LE for this comparison, since it's also a track-focused GT-like car?
@mmcauliffe81
@mmcauliffe81 11 жыл бұрын
Great vid guys, as usual. Do you take price (and running costs) into account when doing a comparison? Example, 1M is now priced way above the other two, and while the M3 can be got for Mustang money ownership costs would be significantly higher on the M3. Considering the Mustang came so close to the M3 but would be cheaper to maintain - when you pick the M car over the Mustang do you take that into account?
@adrianpiste6335
@adrianpiste6335 11 жыл бұрын
Are you guys going to put a c63 in this m3 fighters series
@nexorabolis
@nexorabolis 11 жыл бұрын
Great reviews, all of them. Glad to see the American Boss can hold it's own with the Germans! Muscle car fan here, and one day hopefully a Boss owner :)
@Galileo9.81
@Galileo9.81 10 жыл бұрын
Only if I could afford....1m has got to be the one. BMW should make it more available so that many of us can at least somewhat afford those used ones.
@mmacquoid12
@mmacquoid12 11 жыл бұрын
What roads do you guys film on??
@Sykohtic
@Sykohtic 11 жыл бұрын
The next question I have to pose is this... is this based on a US or Euro spec E36 M3? The Euro spec has quite a bit more power than a US spec. This is an honest question as I really don't know, nor can I find a comparison between the Euro-E36 and the Cobra. The Euro E36 makes 321 hp and 286 ft lb in 97+, so not quite the Cobra in torque, but it does sport better gearing, brakes and several other things I can't name off my head. I wont bring up other special e36 M3s because its no fair.
@mstSean
@mstSean 11 жыл бұрын
You guys never mentioned the overboost function in the 1M that takes the torque to 380ftlbs.
@metal1150
@metal1150 11 жыл бұрын
You guys need to do a series on the M5's like the M3's. Come grab my beautiful stock E39!
@DoctaM3
@DoctaM3 11 жыл бұрын
I really like this review... so nice1
@MrUltraworld
@MrUltraworld 11 жыл бұрын
The one benefit of owning the Mustang is it's pretty indestructable, if something does break it's a pretty cheap fix compared to the BMW. If I were buying for the long term it would be the Boss. If I was going to own a car for the length of a warranty, the 1M looks like a lot of fun. The Mustang's exhaust would drive me a bit nuts after a while. I'd reinstall the side pipe baffle.
@cristianemanuel9519
@cristianemanuel9519 11 жыл бұрын
just get a used 335i sedan. simple chip upgrade will wake it up to 400 hp and torque, and call it good.
@trym1966
@trym1966 10 жыл бұрын
I think this goes for allot for were in the world you are.. Those from the US would most likely go for the Boss 302 (Don't blame you guys!), and those from EU would go for the Bimmers, same for myself, I would take the M1 any day over those 3 cars... I cant see the Boss 302 defeat the M1 or the M3 on a racetrack, the M1 is known to beat Ferrari's... I cant see the Boss 302 do that at all... But hey, maybe they actually have made a car that do traction and handling much better on this 302, I have only driven a i135 and a M3 so I cant really know or tell other vice... But one thing for sure, they are great cars all of them! Great review guys!
@oldfashionedwrx3574
@oldfashionedwrx3574 11 жыл бұрын
the 1m looks good, m3 parts in a smaller lighter platform perfect :) cheaper as well short wheel base, light, rwd, balanced, lots of torque and lots of power! good fuel economy, luxury, manual only I would never drive a muscle car they use too much fuel, though would be good fun having a v8
@pdpmojo
@pdpmojo 11 жыл бұрын
Another great vid, keep up the good work! Waiting to see a review of the Focus ST.
@BaigUzair
@BaigUzair 11 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure you guys messed up the pricing on the 1m..how can the used be more expensive?
@traumadynamics7269
@traumadynamics7269 10 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, given that the 1M is ridiculously pricey, how far off is the regular 135i from the M3 (or the 1M)? Meaning, would it only take some suspension mods and a tune to make the standard 1 series feel like the 1M?
@darksamurai73
@darksamurai73 10 жыл бұрын
Not far at all, especially if you pay COBB Tuning a visit, the 1m even uses the earlier 135i engine, the 2011 and up had a newer twin scroll turbo engine instead of twin turbo.
@ryanthomastew
@ryanthomastew 10 жыл бұрын
Jasan Allen Saj Razvi The 1M isn't just an engine tune and suspension - it's a whole host of M3 goodies meshed into the 1 series body. Here is a more comprehensive list of items on the 1M that make it what it is: M3 suspension architecture (this isn't just a coil-over kit - we're talking control arms, links, bushings etc right from M3) M3 steering mechanism. This is a HUGE part of the 'feel' of the 1M that makes it so special. Completely different feel from a stock 135i. M3 six-speed manual gearbox with a limited slip differential. 135i's don't have the Limited slip diff and thus putting power down to the ground hard in both straight line and corning situations won't be as good as a 1M. M3 brakes Big, Bold body work to accommodate the 19" M3 Competition wheels M3 Side Mirrors ///M Steering Wheel There is no question you could take a 135i and make it "faster" than a 1M with a COBB Stage III upgrade. However you're still going to be missing the steering feel, Limited Slip Diff,Full M3 suspension bits and badass flared body work of the 1M. Final note to remember. Tuned 135i will depreciate. 1M is appreciating as we sit here.
@SnipinCatz
@SnipinCatz 9 жыл бұрын
Ryan II A 135i is faster than a 1M with a JB4 alone. You don't need anything as drastic as a COBB Stage 3. The 1M is appreciating because they sold a mere 740 in the US. That also means that actually buying one is going to mean you're paying an extra 25k used with the same mileage for things you could do to a 135i for much less than that. You could probably do a full 1M conversion for under 10k if you do most of the work yourself. - You can get an M3 steering rack from a salvage yard, they're quite a bit pricier for sale. Let's say you buy one online just as a worst case scenario, it's 1.7k. - You can get the full body kit aftermarket. Fenders, side skirts, .for around 2.5k Let's say you sand it and do the assembly yourself and you're at 3.5k painted at the most and that allows you to mount the larger tires that get more grip. - M3 suspension is 1.4k from HP Autowerks. - M3 LSD is 1.8k. - M steering wheel is on the M-Sport 135i. - N55 135i has the same manual six speed gearbox. - Totals to 8.4k and it'll match the performance of a 1M. This is assuming you do the assembly yourself on everything. All the feel of the 1M, fraction of the price. That would be my list for a conversion. The M3 brakes are a 3 meter difference in stopping distance from 250kph but offer less brake feel. Not worth it IMO. Keep in mind you don't have to spend that 8.4k on the BMW parts. You can get both better performance and cheaper parts by going for aftermarket parts not on the 1M. There are slightly better aftermarket LSDs, and much better aftermarket brakes. And now you have 15+k burning a whole in your pocket to do better things with. The 1M is great if you got it on day one, after that it's a worse and worse deal as far as the car itself is concerned. the 1M started at 46k on day 1, now it's frequently up at 90+k, cheapest I've seen was around 56k or so.
@ryanthomastew
@ryanthomastew 9 жыл бұрын
SnipinCatz You're still making my point for me. The 1M is more than just a tune and suspension. It's a good list of parts that will take the skilled DIY'er at least $10,000 to complete and the non-DIY type closer to $15,000 with labor to get it all done. (BTW: You forgot to include the cost of M Comp 19" Wheels, 19" tires, interior custom stitching/alcantara, tuning parts-software (COBB or JB4), and exhaust which is all probably another $3-4k). You still need to buy a 135i which is going to be around $20,000 for a relatively lower mileage example. So you're into the 1M clone for around $35,000 - $40,000. I looked on Autotrader and there are quite a few low mileage 1M's going for upper $40k and mid $50k region. The only $100k example is the Dinan tuned 1M of which there is currently just one out there right now. There were a couple in the upper $60k region because they were extremely low mile examples. So yes you could copy the 1M and save $15k-$25k today. However the clone will depreciate and an original 1M will maintain value or increase. No loss incurred when you go to sell it. But again the cost isn't my point. The 1M was more than suspension and a tune.
@SnipinCatz
@SnipinCatz 9 жыл бұрын
Ryan II I didn't include plenty of small things. My list was the performance aspect and anything that could have an impact on feel and that's it. It's not about making a clone, but rather a 135i that is comparable in feel and performance to a 1M. That is what he asked. Personally I wouldn't purchase Alcantara trim, it's a bit...meh. The 135i M Sport has M wheels, they're just 18 inch and narrower vs 19 inch because of the larger and wider fenders on the 1M. You can sell the M BMW wheels and buy new aftermarket 1M dimension wheels for a couple hundred extra. You're in to 32k in a 135i where you would otherwise be into over 50k in a equivalent mileage 1M. That's another car sized difference. And I didn't spend the money perfectly so to speak, I just copied everything from the 1M. It's not like the 1M parts are the optimal price/performance for a 135i. The 1M isn't 'much' more than a collectible suspension and a tune. Compare the difference between the 1M/135i and the 335i/ M3. Many people don't even consider the 1M to be a 'true' M car because they didn't do anything serious to the engine. It's just a bunch of M3 bits from the parts bin. There is no guarantee that the 1M holds it's price. It's a limited production run, not a classic. And if it doesn't hold then you've just lost a lot of money, it's a big risk considering the price is kept artificially high. Not to mention modding it is not an option if you want it to keep that same value, same with adding miles to it, every 30k miles seems to be worth about 10% of the price of the car. The people gaining money on it right now are selling it with very few miles, and it's untouched. The ones for sale right now are garage queens.
@Fitsmaurice
@Fitsmaurice 11 жыл бұрын
not the biggest fan of BMW, but this 1M and 1 series in general serenaded me
@Nismo398
@Nismo398 11 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! Keep it coming guys!
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 11 жыл бұрын
Yep, typo fixed. Thanks for watching.
@TheKillWizard
@TheKillWizard 4 жыл бұрын
1M is a collector car now. It's special
@Dentark1
@Dentark1 11 жыл бұрын
These are the most reasonable and sensible americans i've seen on youtube
@asianfresh952
@asianfresh952 11 жыл бұрын
I love this video. U guys should review the lexus isf. I just want to see how that compares.
@BerlinettaFerrari
@BerlinettaFerrari 4 жыл бұрын
I want a comparison of a manual 2008 M6 Vs Z4m Coupe Vs 1M
@mpodobnik
@mpodobnik 11 жыл бұрын
Great video, gentlemen.
@MachtsNichts
@MachtsNichts 11 жыл бұрын
Why they did not equip it with DCT when it is available in two other models with the N54. So sad.
@310Sole
@310Sole 11 жыл бұрын
in L.A., i was on the freeway(91) the other night and I saw headlights in my rearview mirror that quickly disappeared and then all i heard was the sound and the blur of the 1M passing by. i was like "oh shit". i was going 75 and the 1M was probably doing its top speed and the thing just zoomed by. u might ask how i know it's a 1M? i caught up to it. no my car isn't that fast lol. they were at the red light at the end of the freeway. i was like fuggg. then i became a bigger fan of the car :)
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