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The BMW M2 is amazing but how does it stand up against its predecessor, the BMW 1M Coupe?
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[@J_S591]

2:38 - Nope.The N54 engine does not have sequential turbochargers, it has twin parallel turbochargers; both turbochargers are of equal size and there's no little turbo feeding bigger turbo. Both turbochargers work in unison and are fed by three cylinders each through their own dedicated exhaust manifold, cylinders 1-3 for TC1 and 4-6 for TC2; see parts 11657649290 and 11657649289. A little homework on the car that you are reviewing goes a long way, and a guy who loves to driver but has no idea about mechanics can be dangerous :-D. You may also be interested to know that the 1M was made ///M majorly by using E9x M3 parts based on a 135i. Shock absorbers, bushes, diff, control arms, tie rods; it mostly all bolts right up. It was a cheap parts bin experiment which turned out great, a SWB M3 with a turbocharged engine, essentially. For those interested, you can make a car that drives just like a 1M quite easily out of a 135i, the hardest part is the body, really.

[@jensenteo7326]

J Stephens first thing I did was look for this comment. Lol

[@dailydriven991]

Here for the same reason lol 👆🏻

[@georgebuzoianu8]

thank you very much for the information

[@adamcurtis83]

How can they get it this wrong?

[@freemaysin5088]

I did everything aside from the body work & engine. I only have a 128i so i have a different subframe but I put every single M component i could on it. Also went M factory 3.73 LSD along with Bilstein B14 kit, but used Eibach springs. 530i 3 stage intake manifold, MILVS (Modified Intake Lift Valvetronic Supports) along with some supersprint headers & Apex Arc-8 Forged Magnesium wheels and 335i stock Brembo's. Awesome little car, got 120k miles going strong! No n54 issues haha

[@kyrieharge427]

The 1m coupé is a beautiful car.

[@DjNikGnashers]

Specsavers is that way -----------> Now, the M2 is a BEAUTIFUL car.

[@theo_angelos]

both are great cars, i have driven them. The 1M is more old school and it gives you that raw feeling like the legendary E46 M3, but the M2 is faster and more elegant. I would choose the 1M tho..

[@RobManser77]

E46 M3 “raw feeling”?! Are you sure? I always thought it was far too smooth and 330ci like, other than the engine note and the diff if you caned it. I wouldn’t call it raw though.

[@devilgames2217]

The M2 in that grey color 👌

[@voilemontagne]

1M all the way... if only i had monney

[@hannutakalo931]

I´veen thinking, now I gotta do it, 1M.

[@driving2distraction66]

Do it! I did it and bought one last week - it is epic to drive ....

[@arsalansvlog]

I honestly feel you can buy either one of them, and you won't regret it. P.S. Nice watch

[@alphabetaxenonzzzcat]

Yeah, I noticed that. What wristwatch is that?

[@Polofreak6n2]

That 1M was the return of the E30 M3 the perfect M the value will always rise wish i could buy one and love the new M2 is the 2 gen 1M we want more of this BMW and stop making automatic gearboxes on those models i hate it !! Needs to be manual 6 speed only

[@blueberrycobbler]

m power They offer both transmissions, why do care if other people want the DCT?

[@andrejnaumovski8622]

BMW manual transmissions aren't that great honestly...

[@TSracer1]

Powerslides, skids and drifts. Lovely stuff. Seeing a nicely executed drift in slow motion even better. More time to enjoy it visually. Sadly, the presenter is not good at it. Slow motion combined with bad driving IMHO is not a good combination. Its just more time to notice the lack of skills. This looked a bit like a bad parody of a Chris Harris review. Sorry about the harsh comment, but people should not try and show off skills they don`t have. Keep practicing though.. Cheers

[@Halfwayparticular]

You're one of my favorite car reviewers/presenters (alongside the likes of Chris Harris). Keep up the good work!

[@turbskis]

Chris has set a high bar is all.

[@BM_PAZ]

No complaints from me. Like these videos a lot.

[@philipparana9225]

Ive driven them both, almost bought a 1m, went with the 2. Reason, I track a lot, and felt I would end up modding the 1M to much, destroying a future classic. 2r is a much easier car to live with day to day, but I would take the 1m any day on track, slower however your working it, and you feel like your going twice as fast. In the 2r I look down and I am carrying amazing speed,but you feel numb to it. TSracer1, where are your videos on track driving?

[@IEATU95]

Honestly, this presenter is a different style, I love them both equally!

[@1D0N]

1M looks so much better. It just looks so right.

[@Evil.Turkey]

M2 > 1M. Period.

[@bawona]

+Bruce lol love you for that.

[@JF-kj8ux]

The car actually has a parallel turbo setup, not a sequential like you mentioned.

[@blackmist27]

1Ms are a future classic for sure... great cars!

[@jonsmith1162]

You weren't wrong 😂

[@ID1visor]

M2 seems better damped. 1M rolls and changes direction really abruptly.

[@nikb6528]

Nothing you couldn't fix.

[@ID1visor]

Nik Brudar True.

[@SparkySlow]

maybe it is just the way you see it.. i heard is one hell of a car

[@stevesas632]

Ok, so I've been looking at buying a 1M as I just love the looks & the rarity factor. Now I realise that I can get a 2016 M2 for less than a 1M and it sought of seems hard to justify spending more on the older car.

[@stevesas632]

@J B Just to update, I ended up with a 1m after all, & know I made the right choice.

[@hhhpsmlh]

I got myself a 1M March this year.. Part exed a Posche Boxster Spyder also a beautiful limited edition motor.. In the same show room was a 2015 M3 or was it an M4 cant recall actually less miles and cheaper... But i was drawn to that little iM,, Just stood out in that room surrounded by many more expensive exotica... it held its own and shouted out to me "Come and get me" .... was Irresistable.. That look is something unique.. Later cars dont have it.... I am pleased with it and having had an E46 M3 E36 M3 Z3 M coupe I am qualified to have a valid opinion here... I must say Looks wise I think BMWs have lost the plot slightly Not are they alone in this.. And as for that dreadful electric thing Do me a favour Please Yukkk

[@kirholstov]

M2 looks much better in my opinion

[@nigmosh65]

Agreed.

[@megatafiq8741]

My M3 would beat all of these M1s and M2s

[@kirholstov]

+Megat Afiq Currently I'm using a highly sustainable mean of transport, which allows me to reach speeds of up to 20 km/h (not for long). It's called M2L (my 2 legs).

[@nigmosh65]

Kirill Holstov LMAO

[@kendrickgoat]

+Kirill Holstov lool w

[@DazeDream]

My favorite British word has to be "gubbins".

[@adamalex111]

Both are the best modern ///M car and will be a futures classic. + for M2

[@nessuno5403]

8 months ago the M2 was well surpassed by the Competition :)

[@rfp3089]

Both cars are wonderful driving machenes. They impress on their own way and thats ok! In my experience the M2 isn't that bad as some would say! Nice video.

[@rfp3089]

It would be nice to see the e92 M3 and the latest M3 against each other!

[@owismeal92]

The M2 weights 1500 kilos... and they call it a "light" bmw ....

[@kikipark86]

I owe 1m and really hard do find replacement car at same range. Tried so many other cars, not as fun as 1m. Probly porsche manuals only but much expensive

[@SamGleeson]

The N54 engine runs two parallel turbos, not sequential. Mate, do your homework!

[@gabb05]

that M2 in that dark grey look fucking amazing

[@evoermine]

Under the hood? Hood? You're English man! It's a bonnet.

[@OfficialMINIm]

The M1 is the more special one of the bunch. But I've got to say, the M2 is more modernized and refined version of the M1. Not exactly a bad thing. Both awesome cars

[@marvelvsdc13]

just as a reminder it's the 1M in this video, not the M1. That's a different car just in case some doesn't know

[@TudorLica]

You are probably referring to the 1M because the M1 is the predecessor of the i8. I have to agree though that it is the more special one of the bunch.

[@OfficialMINIm]

Yah the 1M lol

[@DjNikGnashers]

The M2 is a much better looking car, faster, handles better, has a better interior, and is more modern and more reliable. The ONLY thing better about the 1M is it's value. And that's if you don't drive it. I like driving my cars, not sat in a garage too afraid of ruining their value.

[@SloanZurnToto]

Nice review but you really should have compared apples to apples by having a manual transmission in both cars to really see how they compare.

[@alpinebreed1774]

1m is the best post e30 m car.... period... imo

[@Gjeebs]

I just bought an M2!

[@DjNikGnashers]

Me too !!

[@Toyota4Life]

Think both cars look weird but they are fun

[@pedaorm]

The first generation 1 series hatch was lovely, ugly was the angry birds 2 generation.

[@joshhaven4173]

This guy should replace Chris Evans in top gear

[@gonzalo4307]

My uncle is still pulling his hair for not getting an alipineweiss 1M back in the day haha

[@shaneslad]

"Back in the day"? Are people using that term for just 5 years ago now?... Haha. Awesome

[@gonzalo4307]

shane holley Man I was just trying to mean when the car was available at retail price, dont bash on my English haha

[@matt2m]

He was not bashing your English it was proper. The context of the term back in the day is just used for time frames longer than 5 years.

[@tomezhao]

Love the 1M look. Hopefully I’ll get one within 4 years

[@Lord_Deimos]

I'm falling in love with the m2 with each passing day!

[@DjNikGnashers]

I bought one (an OG M2), last year, wow, they are great cars. It's much nicer than the ugly 1M, faster, better handling, better interior, more modern, and I can drive it and enjoy it without worrying about depreciating it's value.

[@eeterp32]

drink every time he says "proper" annnnnd I'm dead

[@benrifkin1981]

Is "proper" the British equivalent of "nah mean"? He's obsessively saying it...

[@DocHavoc0512]

awesome video, and I haven't even watched it yet

[@reubengoh7728]

This presenter is getting really pretty good at reviews... I like the confidence he has now.

[@shikarbabulall3897]

Love the M2 , 1M , E36 CSL , E46 CSL, all collectors edition, compact sports saloon!

[@atthelord]

If it were my money, I'd definitely get the M2.

[@nikhilpatil7218]

Who doesn't want an M2 ?

[@eddyperez9945]

I would like to see drag race between ///M 1,2,3,4,5,6

[@eddyperez9945]

carfection

[@BBDSmint]

Why? The M6 will win

[@vinelord5589]

New M7

[@saucysimpson259]

+Vine Lord no such car will ever exist

[@vinelord5589]

luke simpson M760Li Xdrive is pretty fast in a straight line

[@sergiosaunier]

Andy pronounces "coupé" correctly! That in itself is enough reason to watch the video. Which is great, by the way.

[@Drummin003]

I'd still take the 1M over the M2. The M2 is nice but it weighs ~150lbs less than an M4 (which is ridiculous considering how much bigger the M4 is based on it's exterior dimensions), and it's 1" taller than an M4 (how the fuck did they manage to do this on the smaller car?).

[@cookybiscuit]

M2 with paddles? :/

[@LCdrDerrick]

Want a Porsche GT4 or an E46 M3 CSL (with huge aftermarket ceramic brembos). Those two are too angry and vulgar of some sort. Reminds me of a too short grown body builder who has to compensate something. The spoilers are the wet dream a fourteen year old Fast and the Furious fan would choose on his Play Station, but nothing a serious and grown person want's to be seen with, imho.

[@jlove24]

Those two cars don't compare to each other

[@ferrarienzokl]

6:26 is the gas cap open lol

[@PaddyMcQueen]

It's not open... just normal BMW "perfection" built quality... lol xD

[@buldhana]

It is open you dip shit!

[@thetechnobasefan1161]

+Vega Rapidus It is open you dip shit

[@drcheekyisback]

In his M4vM4GTSvM2 video - car has gas cap open too

[@doccyber]

Too bad the 1M is so ugly.

[@SenszR]

Better than the M2.

[@kolifun]

It's beautiful. The only thing it lacks overall is a DCT (in my humble opinion).

[@JoshTaylor]

Exclusivity has much to do with the 1M's value. There were only 680 in the United States. There are already over 700 M2's in the US as of today and is expected to reach close to 4k US units when the run ends in 2020.

[@mexican47]

In the N54, both turbo's are the exact same size actually. But you should drive a modified N54!

[@naamaa3324]

1M, no doubt!

[@emanueldhont6401]

Totally agree, 1M is the preferred choice

[@superjervis]

it's a shame they didn't name it the 2M instead,it seems more fitting

[@Rustybeanz]

Someone needs to tell Alex there's a vacancy on 'Top Gear'

[@desertedham37]

love both these cars

[@0merqasim282]

if I'm to choose I'll go with the 1M both are great but the 1Mlooks a bit more serious a bit cooler a bit crazier

[@1millionmore]

Love this vid, very easy to watch, nicely presented. I'd like to throw another into the mix, that being an E92 M3, because for me it would come under consideration at the price point. The iconic M3, the limited edition 1M, or the extremely capable newer M2.

[@VictorPitstop]

M2-Daily; 1M-Weekend Track Monster.

[@rudyaroki1071]

I’ll take the 1m !! 😍

[@wonderfulfamilyvehicles52]

M2 is the best

[@omarhamdan5693]

This guy needs to be a top gear presenter

[@rare6499]

1M is much more special

[@majedsaati8175]

The M2 should have the same style wheels of the 1M.

[@LegendInThaMakin]

with all due respect to the 1m, I'd pick the m2 any day of the week

[@DjNikGnashers]

Me too, and I did. The OG M2 is a much better car than the 1M in every way, the only thing good about the dumpy ugly 1M is it's rare and worth a lot more. This also means you would be too scared to drive it and lose value, so it will sit in the garage. Pointless.

[@LegendInThaMakin]

@@DjNikGnashers I typed that comment 7 years ago bro. Not even the same man anymore.

[@natenasty6292]

Your watch looks better than either car...

[@4039byrne]

probably be able to buy a used bmw for the same price

[@4039byrne]

Yeah your right lol. £94 of amazon 😂

[@eddyperez9945]

+Carfection .

[@eddyperez9945]

+Carfection I would like to see a drag race between ///M 1.2.3.4.5.6 jeje

[@philipparana9225]

he should return it.

[@mastermindediv4425]

anyone know what kind of watch he is wearing???

[@delboy2596]

Unlike your pointless comment. which say, "listen to me i need attention"

[@jizzpipe14]

I'm just saying this guy should be the new top gear host

[@DiscoR53]

The 1 series coupe body is sleek compared to the 2 series.

[@oversteer46]

Fail! The 1M does NOT have sequential turbos. It's one per 3 cylinders. This is not hard to research so why does the journalist need to make shit up?!

[@drbadzer]

I wish BMW would make a 2017 version of the original 1978 M1 but I (and BMW) know that perfect things cannot be remade. If such a thing was possible, BMW would make the best car in automotive history...again.

[@nessuno5403]

Why? That was done by Lamborghini. The i8 is a spiritual modern successor.

[@d0718]

6:21 they need to design a fuel cap which can hold the lateral g-force

[@wonder7718]

Both of them looks beautiful..

[@thn123456789]

Would rather the M2 over the M3 as well!

[@ElLebza]

I see this is the same 1M used in the review by Pistonheads.

[@seantaylor2683]

meh, I'd still take a mkiv supra :P

[@efrainvalladares2357]

FD RX-7 😉

[@seantaylor2683]

Supra fits better in this comparison, nice choice though

[@efrainvalladares2357]

True

[@seantaylor2683]

BIG J who pissed in your cereal?

[@CarsFanTV]

Are you kidding me?? No lap times?? holy shit thats lame...

[@harryc266]

I'm sorry but his car starts at £ 44,080.00. "bargain"

[@Nightjar726]

If only BMWs looked like this today. Gorgeous

[@t1000eg]

1M is the original murderer....

[@JoJoJoker]

Finally someone gets a DCT car. Manual neuters performance and good to see about the better numbers all the manual reviews mention.

[@Namenloser1895]

You basically have the choice between performance and fun. Personally I don't really care about 0.2 seconds more to 100kph but I do care about the driving experience, manual it is.

[@FAT8893]

+Walther White Agree with that. (Y)

[@JoJoJoker]

+Walther White DCT is fun and offers better performance. It's not about the 0.2 seconds on paper. In real world scenarios those times are multiplied greatly. From red lights to windy country roads to interstate passing to show off BS like launch control. Total dual-clutch convert. Hate normal autos. I prefer a Jeep with a manual (have a 1991 Sahara) or older car but for modern stuff it's so hard to beat.

[@edwilson6411]

Fuel cap.... 6:23 XD kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWKkYmaBe8ySrac

[@Franzino]

+Carfection Now you have driven the M2 in manual and DCT... Which gearbox would you choose for daily driving and the occasional track day?

[@classiccarssp]

I prefer the ///M CLOWNSHOE by far.. It's an NA, no electric steering, E30 rear axle, bad ass looks for a shooting brake special design, short production and fewer units made.. Fact!

[@realbhopwood]

BMW is smart in this segment in having no competition in the U.S. SLK--not really since the the Kompressor models, Golf--close enough but is there any other COMPETITIVE choices available in U.S?!?

[@EFRANEED]

"The hatch was not a pretty thing"? lol

[@purrungas2012]

Got the 228i bout a month ago and even though I like the way it looks I have to say that when it comes to the interior I Am not really impress, my 2009 G37 looks and feels much better than the bmw.... Air condoning really sucks, the leather seats get extremely hot for unknown reasons to me, did noticed my G37 has tiny holes to get rid of heat I imagined.... The bmw is a very small car, am 5'5 ft and it feels crowded, my legs rub agains doors and console, nothing special about the radio or navigation, display looks like they almost forgot to put one, so this was a solution, German cars are getting closer to the Japanese but not there yet. Not sure why they get as much credit, they are twice as expensive

[@zatharos6427]

With the comment of the 911 vs this 1M, obviously the new 911's were turbocharged for efficiency while the 1M was turbocharged to performance. It just so happens the 1M can get 30 mpg

[@Moore_Jono]

So the M2 is said-to-be communicative and analogue; yet 9:05 it is described as a, "Car for the idiot!" Do you mean to say that it is not a proper driver's car where the 1M is? Or not a proper driver's car at all?

[@dct124]

I always chuckle at the steering wheel b/c it looks like a chalist 🤣 Just to remind you what you're drinking.

[@gho5t227]

The fact that it's a 1m makes it better. It's just a rare car

[@DjNikGnashers]

It makes it more valuable that is all. The OG M2 is a much better car in every other way.

[@rylandbrown8874]

1m is truly the better drive. I have drove both and this is coming from a M235i owner.

[@VoxGav-bd9rc]

I rather daily drive the M2 but I rather have the 1M. Design wise I would say the M2 looks absolutely gorgeous but the 1M has an older more bulky look that is just so attractive!

[@kurtrusellpatrickswayze]

1M 369 ib/ft, M2 343 ib/ft? And it weights almost the same as the massive M4...

[@tytlyf]

The 2 series have a rear end problem, ugly as hell and not aggressive.

[@gingertoast4826]

tytlyf I like it but it's just not aggressive enough so I agree with you there

[@nessuno5403]

Problems? In your head?

[@C42ST3N]

I absolutely HATE the M2 front bumper. I think the car could look a lot better with a different look.

[@foho100]

Hey Carfection, could you get your hands on the new 2017 Porsche 718 Cayman S and review it ?

[@BlackPenquinn]

Who needs a synthetic MP3 soundtrack when you have an actual engine and exhaust. Fake sounds are for losers.

[@jasonl5589]

You will make money buying 1M. It just keeps appreciating.

[@marcclasara7592]

How does it compare with MX-5 ND? in terms of handling. BMW M1

[@megatafiq8741]

Lotus for life

[@davidviner4932]

1m all day long