BMW i5 M60: Making a fast EV go around corners is hard.

[@bbostic_5]

Thank you for making a point to call out manufacturers for the touch screen controls and removing physical buttons. It’s lazy on their part and frustrating and dangerous for consumers.

[@omidnamin9004]

It's a cheap cost cutting measure and nothing else. why pay for designers and engineers when you can stick a $100 tablet in there and call it a day

[@MotoManTV]

This!

[@kiwi335d]

Thanks for the great review MotoMan. Regarding the lack of buttons or knobs for the routinely used functions, the manufacturers are saving a bunch of money deleting buttons by moving the controls to the screen and they are not likely to change their mind on this direction. In addition, many of today’s young nitwits think moving the controls to the screen is “like cool”.

[@MotoManTV]

'Young nitwits':)

[@KG_06]

8:01 I believe the fan setting is not related to the loudness of the fan while driving the vehicle, but rather how loud the fan is during charging. It really doesn’t influence the sounds when driving, so the iconic sounds will be more prevalent.

[@2Bunphettered788]

Good review Motoman.👍🏾 On my way home yesterday, I saw a BMW I4 M on the highway in front of me taking the same exit ramp. I followed the driver for about three miles and he/she was driving the car like a Formula 1️⃣ championship driver. I think BMW could be on the right track for handling, but MAN, these German chariots are pricey!! 🤑

[@MrSchn3ll]

I went to a BMW EV event and drove this and the i7 M60 and I just cannot get excited about these soulless cars. Too heavy, too boring, too expensive, too little range, too much depreciation. If you need to lease one for your business I guess it's an OK appliance, but if you are a normal car buyer stay far away unless you hate money.

[@seiph80]

Glad to see this comment. I've gotten invites for the same thing and I'm not interested; I bought last year a '23 540i via BMW individual and I'm definitely keeping it (need to have those physical climate control buttons!).

[@yoosteve1885]

True

[@Phi.D.888]

🤣 💯💯💯

[@garyclark6747]

The regeneration of electricity is sometimes limited due to a limit in how much and where electricity can be stored. Ultimately the current handling circuits for regen like onboard charging circuits have a limit of how much electricity they can handle. If the battery is near full then it becomes the limiting factor for electrons because they top out gradually dictated by the BMS. I’m not sure Hyundai IONIQ 5 N strategy at the limits but my guess is they took their mastering of blended braking to another level along with beefing up the regen current capabilities. This whole regen as I drive the IONIQ 5 AWD Limited is that it offsets the power used for cabin climate control and adds greater braking control. So it’s like comfort for free and convenience to boot. The N is like an extra lap for free and allows for a performance one pedal controllability in the turns. Unfortunately this M60 did not divorce the euro B pedal regen thinking which Hyundai never adopted. Hyundai took this efficiency and brilliance to a whole new level with the a set of paddles all while keeping your eyes on the road. Want to slow down a hill without braking it’s easy. Stuck in traffic, you’ll love iPedal’s ability to let you use just the go pedal to move about. Use Auto-Regen to let the vehicle adjust based on circumstances. Haven’t reviewed Hyundai’s next generation iPedal but I’ve heard say it’s stronger which I’m guessing they brought over some N regen capabilities to the regular line up. Great review. 17:24

[@MotoManTV]

The IONIQ 5 N is currently the pinnacle of how to implement regen for a performance benefit - hence the many references to that car in this episode.

[@TheTruePrudentOne]

Love the episode but, I am adding my name to the petition of adding buttons and knobs back, this app for everything is just insane. Honestly im not a big ev fan but i would say that im glad that ev's are starting to look like regular cars. I loved the ioniq5N and i think you are right about BMW should engineer some soul into this as well.

[@DR-zk2do]

I agree. I’d like a BMW M3 EV that does what the Ionic 5N did so well.

[@stories1984]

As someone who wanted and tried to buy an EN for 7 months and ended up buying a GTI instead, the Hyundai dealer network killed it for me as nobody in a 4 state radius of me would sell it without at least $4k markup. And this is as an owner of another Hyundai car and my bad experience buying that one. The dealer network is a real problem.

[@jlev23]

As an owner of an i4 xDrive40, I find B mode very capable of one-pedal driving (understanding it is not the same vehicle as the i5 M60). I went back to view the video where you tried B mode and at the start of that segment, the dash on the right shows D instead of B (at 14:21), but at the end of that portion, it does show B (14:47). So I was just wondering if you were really in B mode during those earlier turns? Again, just curious as I find B mode to perform well in the i4.

[@mandeepahluwalia2377]

Love any and all references to Dave Coleman! Miata is always the answer! 😊

[@brathersadda9436]

You could also do a person video, who you are and how you got there. Would be very intresting

[@MotoManTV]

Thanks for asking . . . Sat with @thegarykluttpodcast and shared my origin story - amongst other things. You can see it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZ60aXidfNWgb9Esi=d_Kr6jdKccJr-fYd

[@JeremiaSamp]

@@MotoManTV What a fascinating story! I never really believed the "it's the algorithm" rant but now I understand - This man is the best car expert and the most talented host in the industry... Maybe shake things up a bit to reset the algorithm, refresh the intro haha

[@SwannBus]

The one pedal driving works perfectly and is as good as Tesla, however the car defaults to “auto” mode which has little regeneration and a “B” mode that is one pedal driving. I wish this was a setting that allowed you to default to “B” instead of “D” which is auto/coast mode.

[@vanceenvik3551]

Motorman love your reviews thanks. You stress me out though doing some of it stopped outside the car on a blind corner. 🙃

[@MotoManTV]

Thank you for the concern . . . but that is movie magic:)

[@Rodo1586]

These reviews are fantastic, thank you

[@MotoManTV]

My pleasure!

[@michaelreiff8398]

I leased one of these a few weeks ago (coming from a G30) and have been really happy with it thus far. Honestly, the only real complaints I have are the lack of physical buttons, and BMW cheaping out on some interior materials and options (especially at this price point). It's not an M car by any stretch, but I think it fills the old M550i slot in the lineup adequately. Considering the massive weight, they've done a great job with the chassis and suspension. Still, I look at this car as purely transitional until they start releasing Neue Klasse BEV's, and that's one of the main reasons I leased rather than buying (which I never do...). Since 90% of my driving is urban highways and I have a level 2 charger at home, the EV drive train fits my needs perfectly and still feels enough like a BMW to keep me happy. I'll thoroughly enjoy it for the next 3 years, but it will be very interesting to see what the BMW lineup looks like when it comes time for a replacement -- go check out the sneak peak video for the Sky Top concept if you haven't yet -- if that's a hint of what the next generation BMW design language is going to be,, then I am all in.

[@MotoManTV]

Appreciate the real world feedback and yes, that 'Skytop' is a show stopper!

[@drs.d3799]

Shoutout to Motoman for calling BMW out for physical buttons and knobs 📢📢📢📢 Stop slapping tablets on cars

[@cirkinnkral]

what color is this?the official name?

[@successinthemakin9880]

Carbon black metallic

[@brathersadda9436]

first time u popped in my frontpage, sometimes i wanted to see a review by you but i couldnt find you xD... Btw can you do a review of more luxerious cars, but not super expensive?

[@koopaGG]

Everyone harps on the exterior design, but it's the interior of the design on the new 5 series I just don't love. I think I'd rather take an i4 M50 over this and sacrifice the extra room and put some cash back in my pocket, plus the hatch is great.

[@MotoManTV]

I would suggest the i4 eDrive40 . . . believe it or not, the better driver's car. Less is more in this case: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJ3Pg5Kvq7OFqrssi=kPC9UBL2TumCvDxS

[@rl6210]

How much does it weigh again?

[@charliethesupebeagle]

16:35 it seems suicidal to stop here. Is that a closed course? :) In any case, great video. Thanks for the hard work.

[@MotoManTV]

Thanks for the concern . . . It's a secret closed road . . .

[@IceDree]

M, did you see the Skytop concept? Santa Maria Madre de Dios! Simply stunning. If they decide to build it to succeed the Z8, it'll be one helluva a redemption arc for BMW designers. As for the 5er, yeah, I still stand by what I said earlier, U.G.L.Y.! This is one car I don't think I'll be warming up to. It's not as ugly as the EQ(insert letter here), but still pretty damn ugly. Excellent work by the way, M.

[@MotoManTV]

HATE the color they chose but LOVE LOVE LOVE that design. Even better that it is 'real' enough to make it to production. A true stunner. Glad to see you coming around from your checkered E65 past:)

[@IceDree]

@@MotoManTV I'm not fond of it either, but it contrasts well with the red interior and beats silver or white.

[@clnred]

EuroNCAP won’t give future cars 5 stars if it doesn’t revert to buttons. The other thing I don’t get is last gen idrive. When you moved your finger toward the screen the sub menus just appeared. They’ve dropped that. And don’t get me started about emails. BMW had it. Just wouldn’t pay providers. It’s bonkers for a work car.

[@AAB6432]

BMW EV are perfect for cruising, all most people going to drive is no more than 80mph.

[@konspikuous420]

The plastic center cap here...blows my mind.

[@AntLive29]

the drive axle hump when there is no drive axle annoys me

[@blakeeverts7075]

Touch screens need to go, why BMW wants to copy Tesla I have no idea. This car makes no sense at this price point.

[@Tully3674]

Good video. Like the exterior design but not 'mechanics' underneath the skin. Don't see the value.

[@dogsnoop963]

I am not a fan of bmw exterior design these days.

[@DARKEST_VANTA]

What a joke

[@felipe7112]

hi Motoman

[@MotoManTV]

Hello!

[@EagleWolfSparrow]

2025 I4 M50 will have update Dashboard, same steering wheel, 2025 i4 ftw

[@Rodo1586]

Motorman. How come you and your fellow testers haven’t been given a Lambo revuelto to review?

[@MotoManTV]

As far as I know, there are no testers in the US as of this writing. May want to chat at Lambo social to ask them to get those cars to us quicker . . .

[@Rodo1586]

@@MotoManTV yes, we viewers need to know!

[@stevechin1866]

Big BMW fan here. However, my god that thing is ugly. Atleast, it is painted in beautiful Carbon Black Metallic, even though i think it might be Tanzanite Blue Metallic. Love the white interior and spot on comment about the buttons. Stll trying to adjust to the new interior in the X6. At tines it is frustrating.

[@MotoManTV]

Definitely not Tanzanite Blue Metallic - love that color.

[@omidnamin9004]

So sad what bmw has turned into.

[@JaclynTrop]

Presenter is cute.

[@ruxsreviews1113]

My question is this better than an i7?

[@JohnLee-db9zt]

Typical BMW pricing, nickel and dime you to death.

[@MotoManTV]

Funny, they are not as bad as Porsche and some of the bespoke Brits.

[@Great_America]

I’m not going to buy a new car with old tech. No thanks. I’ll wait…

[@andrewgreen8388]

601hp

[@stephanfourie6879]

Just avoid it!!

[@kfx3907]

Ioniq5N is far better than this

[@KG_06]

8:01 I believe the fan setting is not related to the loudness of the fan while driving the vehicle, but rather how loud the fan is during charging. It really doesn’t influence the sounds when driving, so the iconic sounds will be more prevalent.