BMW M2 Competition 2019 review | better than a Porsche 718 Cayman? | Autocar

[@rajivkishore]

Fantastic car, this is the right size of car for public roads, new cars are too wide and you sit too high. BMW still on it!!

[@ZDY66666]

It's a lovely car, but to be honest it is still pretty high riding, width is still pretty wide bit relative to boats like the m3 or other performance sedans this is as compact as things get nowadays sadly

[@rajivkishore]

Well this a compromise we must pay for safety.

[@Flexo_l]

They are both around 1570kg. M2 is shorter but it's much wider and taller.

[@Flexo_l]

M2 is 4475mm and M3 e46 is 4492mm. M2 Competition is around 80kg heavier then standard one. You get another turbo more cooling and some heavier suspension bits. M3 e46 weight is in between of M2 and M2C.

[@Billeh556]

ZDY you e driven one and can confirm this? Bet not, just looking at the stats like typical car KZbin commenter most likely

[@furiousgtz]

A proper M3.

[@ALMX5DP]

To me a proper ///M car retains natural aspiration.

[@goldennugget223]

Alan Bowers Then your lost m8

[@Catalina._]

The REAL modern version of the E30 M3 is actually the GT86 with exactly the same spec : - 2.0L 4 cyl engine making 200hp (E30 has 2.3L 4 cyl engine making 200hp) - rwd (E30 is also rwd) - manual (E30 also has manual) - 2+2 coupe (E30 is also a 2+2 coupe) - 1167kg - 1298kg weight (E30 also weights 1165kg - 1300kg)

[@subway5907]

Yeah but the E30 is 30 years old... lol. And the GT86 is a damn Toyota

[@Catalina._]

@@subway5907 So?

[@LitleBear]

As a daily the m2 or m2 competition with a manual is almost perfect. Small but prectical, quick but not reckless and it looks great. 718s or gts is also a $90k car, I would imagine bmw competition is high 60s at most? Seems like a great choice.

[@Foxtrot2312]

$62 with wish all options - minus the dct (which is 2900 more)

[@H1delta]

I ordered one with DCT as the only option and the MSRP is $62,795 which includes shipping and handling in Southern California. Since I've purchased several M3s and my current 2017 M2 from them, the dealer is selling me the car at MSRP. I'm buying this model because it's a genuine M car unlike my 2017. This will be my weekend car and the 2017 will be my every day work car.

[@floridamaddogg]

@@H1delta you are lucky! Getting the car at MSRP makes it a fairly good deal. I too had a 2017 M2, but I traded mine in back in April and was still able to get almost full value back with the trade in. I actually found Bramman BMW by me in West Palm Beach still trying to sell 2018 M2 for $66k. My car was marked up to $65k a year ago, but talked most the mark up off. The M2C had just about everything I wished mine had. In 10 months of ownership, I went thru 2 interations of the M2 and was not happy about that. Felt like a slap on my face, lol. I imagine M2C will sell with about a $10k markup for most people around my area making it a bad deal. I could get a M3/M4 for close to that amount and no markup on those. M3 would have been my ultimate choice. I got a car I love more than either of those, but enjoy your M2C. It should be a sweet car! I really will wonder how much better or faster it will be compared to the original M2.

[@Peanutdenver]

I've heard $71k in the States and I agree with you as well.

[@jaykay7932]

i disagree... on a wet greasy day or a day of icey road conditions this car would be FAR from a perfect daily driver... it'd get on your nerves immensly

[@orbitaljunkie]

Ended up getting one of these a few months ago with the DCT. Honestly it's sublime and after 10+ years driving manuals, I'm really enjoying the paddle shifters. Brilliant car.

[@audiophilemetallian]

Great feedback. I owned for a while m340i but didnt match my expectations.

[@fraeva8261]

Over the top!!! But the M2 and the Cayman are too different to be compared. However, the world needs a car like the M2

[@michaelmcdonald9847]

I’d buy this over a 718 because this has a 6 cylinder engine, more trunk space, and back seats. Idk how they even have a market for the Cayman anymore; who wants an $80k car with a turbo 4?

[@henrychen8067]

Michael McDonald I was about to argue because 718 is still the less expensive mid engine sport car that money can buy and it is extremely road happy in any situation. however, I would agree with you. I would still take 2016 last gen cayman GTS over any BMW, but 718? I back up a bit, this M2 is too good.

[@zatharos6427]

Not to mention the 718 sounds like a lawnmower

[@ChrisDorgan]

100% agree!

[@kickyadick]

718 trash, for the purpose of a car in this segment, m2 is naturally the better car. Want proof? The proof is after so many years, every single 718 video on KZbin has debates on the garbage sounding engine.

[@polarweis]

2.5 turbo 4 right? Pretty good

[@m3lowiesvlog715]

1M + E46 M3 + Turbo = M2 competition

[@avivkestin7103]

Facts.

[@dotdot8614]

The M2 competition is essentially the modern day 1 M or 135i

[@joycegoncalves5408]

Very Acurate

[@Kelveron]

Absolutely love the M2 Competition....if I only I had the money.

[@Scotlandjb]

Kelveron same

[@UnlicensedPharmaciszt]

Give it 3 years and you'll see a lot of them under 35k range. Just buy something else now. M cars depreciate way faster than Porsches, which is a good thing in this case.

[@futuresensational2342]

@@UnlicensedPharmaciszt lol this didn’t age well…

[@UnlicensedPharmaciszt]

@@futuresensational2342 haha so true

[@noah_doring]

Did you buy your m2 comp?

[@miaudir8]

Sounds different and louder? Well, its got the M3 engine now mate

[@Bestwick1983]

I love how he blames the louder sound on "less sound dampening". Someone clearly didn't do his research.

[@diveenvarma5068]

Are you serious!!??

[@joshbacon8241]

Taylor Greenfield Well, a detuned M3 engine, to be exact - it makes 405 bhp instead of the M3’s 425 bhp.

[@dagnut]

Did you watch the full video before commenting?

[@miaudir8]

dagnut I did, and commented in the beginning when he said it sounded different. It was quite strange waited until the 2nd half of the video to then say it’s because of the different engine. Could’ve said it quickly at the start while still going in depth on stats later

[@jgway9980]

Having driven a 718 Cayman for 2 years, it was a great car but the flat 4 just doesn’t have the magical sound of the 6. Taking delivery on a new M2 this week. Looking forward to driving a 6 again.

[@toniserrano8]

I have one Cayman 981 Gts 👌

[@JoeAchilles1]

Looks good, hopefully get my hands on one soon...

[@thestrog1]

Look forward to your review Joe... It would be good to hear your thoughts against the normal M2. I have one at the moment and it would be interesting to hear if the M2C justifies a change? (No dealer discounts etc at the moment so would need to stump up a chuck of cash to change!)

[@Shmarc150]

Joe sorry... I expected from you a comment like before when they did that "boring" versus. 😇🤣 Matt's statements make me question his credibility again... "It feels louder" Hahah ASD is louder, not the exhaust. He is listening to more fake sound. "Extra amount of steering feedback" Not extra feedback, more precise and retuned. "New springs and damper settings" Really? My god, who told him that... Nothing has changed on that thing, all is the same as the M2. "Changes direction so much better" Sorry? Hahaha "Less sound proofing" Facepalm, less sound proofing... "Great engine note" Hahaha honesty. Next thing is that the OPF makes it sound a better. "More aggressive" It is less aggressive in the lower rev band and has more breath in the top end. Shall we take over and run Autocar? 😉

[@ryhanchoudhury1023]

I await your verdict patiently Joe! Hopefully you get 1 soon.

[@scottiecopasetic8315]

I enjoy your reviews Joe & I know you're probably partial to AMG, I'd be very interested in what you have to say about the M2C (especially since I've got one on order). Cheers!

[@crimsonpirate1710]

And?

[@eliotsalandybrown]

Matt thank you for your detailed comments on how the car feels to drive. You know how to let the viewer share in the experience of piloting these amazing machines. Nice one.

[@dafrasier1]

I ordered an M2 Competition with DCT trans for June 2019, Munich. I will drive the Ring again and be able to compare it to my 718 Boxster S. Glad to hear good reviews. I know what I am doing for the next year, saving and planning.

[@KillerZero259]

With the DCT? Wtf?

[@adamandersson9663]

DCT > manual in an M2/m3/m4. Drive both and you'll know why. I had a manual M2 and my father has a DCT M4.

[@KillerZero259]

If that was so true, how is it that BMW sells over 50% of their M2s with the manual transmission? And that's in America. The only good thing the DCT is good for is consistent numbers and traffic. I'll take driving pleasure over pretending to be a "driver" with an auto any day.

[@dafrasier1]

I am an old guy with bad eyes and slow reaction. My boxster has the PDK. I spent 3.5 years on a farm / ranch in Montana, so had enough of clutches. Operated a John Deere tractor "popper" with A Hand Clutch. the PDK on the Ring was great. Mash the brakes and it down shifts to perfect gear. 242 laps no crash. Not a car guy. The Ring is the only race track I have been to or driven on. oops not a track a public toll road. DCT and PDK are essentially sequential racing trans, ha my excuse. dreaming of june 2019. sunset orange.

[@adamandersson9663]

I lied to myself when I bought the M2 as a manual (ordered new). I bloody LOVED the DCT M2 but thought to myself, obviously I want the manual since I'm a manual kinda guy(like you) and came from a M3 e46 Manual. Go and drive one and make your own mind please, I never bonded with the rather bad manual gearbox in the M2. My brother just bought a Renault Megane R.S 275 Cup, that manual is several times better than the M2 manual I had.

[@JAnx01]

The E92 M3 was fantastic. Nobody expected it would take BMW 10 years to produce another car that would live up to the standard set by the E92 M3.

[@nurburgringuk]

You mean the e46 M3 and 15 years? ;-)

[@NAVMAN987]

I was hoping it felt more like an E36 M3.

[@Stelf101]

Well think you ment it took 4 with the 1m existing.

[@babajungLA]

That's because all the engineers who designed the E46 M3 probably retired. Lol.

[@jonathanwinston9958]

I owned the E92 M3 and have an M2 Comp on order. After test driving the first-gen M2 I can say that you can feel the weight of the E92 and you had to rev the snot out of it to get into the power band. Love how lite the M2 Comp feels and the power is always available. Sound in the E92 was great (and better) than the M2 Comp but willing sacrifice. Can't wait to own the M2 Comp.

[@robertolombardi3698]

Ordered mine and in that glorious Hokenhiem Silver. I have the current M2 for now. BMW have turned a brilliant car in to a great one.

[@KillerZero259]

I would only ever buy this car with the 6MT option

[@Илья-ы2р8с]

why dude? is it convenience?

[@MagicAyrtonforever]

The problem with the Cayman 718 is that awful engine note - Such a shame as it could easily be my favorite Porsche.. So the BMW probably is more satisfying to own and drive.

[@moneyparhar]

BMW pumps fake noise in cabin

[@MagicAyrtonforever]

@@moneyparhar Still sounds a lot better

[@exiledrabbit]

@@moneyparhar it's the actual noise of the engine, it's just made louder with the speakers because it would be too quiet with the sound dampening. It's not really a "fake" noise

[@upgradeNEVER]

I actually think the 718 doesn't sound too bad. Yes, it's got nothing on the old H6, but Flat 4s generally sound pretty good for a 4 cylinder - they always have a growl.

[@Stewwwwww]

Have u driven the cayman or just gone off what Chris Harris has said? I expect the latter like everyone else on here

[@HesteBremse]

Fine precise review - I would really like to have an M2 Competition - Always loved the old M3´s and this is the now the perfect size and power for some road fun.

[@darylmorse]

I picked up a 2020 M2C DCT a few months ago to replace my outgoing E46 M3. I'm really happy with the M2C. It's a blast to drive.

[@jryalls]

Pretty sure the M2 Competition just replaces the normal M2.

[@SwissWatchTraderUK]

just collected mine - LOVE it!!!!

[@818ARM3N1AN]

got mine 2 weeks ago..... TELL ME ITS ALOT OF FUN????? when i take it out for a drive i don't want to return home because of how fun it is.... enjoy and be safe....

[@1HappyBob]

Congrats guys - are the seats lined up with the steering wheel?

[@lukayonny5898]

Congratulations!!

[@ganigani9430]

M2 competion it's fantastic package

[@abc162]

That's like the M tradition isn't it?

[@burntnugget1854]

C'mon clickbait thumbnail...was expecting drifts...great review i always love your composure... so professional

[@rsfez09]

Nice, the M2 should have had this set up originally. The only bmw I currently like.

[@abdulazizabdunasimov8978]

Glad to read your reviews, guys. We produce this M2, M2 Competition, i8 Roadster, i8 Coupé in Leipzig, Germany.

[@roshanthomas9805]

My favourite BMW. Perfect size,great power,extremely good handling.

[@Flexo_l]

This is basically a perfection.

[@VaunShiz]

A m2 with a the m4 motor, sounds like what the m3 should of been lol

[@TedwardDrives]

I've been toying back and forth with trading my e92 m3 for this. After shmee's review his comments on the brakes had me leaning away. With the much more trusted Autocar review, I'm leaning toward.

[@gibranwerby8989]

I own an ATS V and just got my M2 C 5 weeks ago. The ATS V is a fabulous car, I attended the Cadillac V performance lab at COTA and the ATS is truly a great performance car. I love the M2 C. It’s harsher riding in town than the ATS V which is disappointing, however the quality of the BMW stands out. The interior is much nicer. The power delivery of the M2C is better when you’re in M1 or M2 mode. Fabulous engine and brakes. I like the steering in the ATS a little more. In short both are great cars. I looked at buying a Cayman S but the roughness of the 4 cylinder engine nixed my consideration.

[@mattoliver1393]

Matt the safe pair of hands as ever. Enjoyed.

[@MrFlyingguy]

articulate in motion and speech....enjoyable thanks

[@antonioglendinning4414]

Awesome car! Everything a modern M car should be! Loving the SKX009 on your wrist as well! :)

[@zatharos6427]

Wouldn’t the top of the line M be the GTS rather than the CS. If i can remember the CS is basically the ZCP with minor changes

[@mdgh9971]

It’s good to see the presenter more energetic and into it

[@TheChannel1978]

He is always like that :)

[@rodneyorders5970]

Just ordered my M2 Comp today. 1st quarter Euro delivery. Cant wait

[@fahass2]

Best part is a simple tune you'll have 100+HP and 100+ more torque and a beast of a package. But I think 400HP is the ultimate balance for this car. Obv some people will want more.

[@MrZebrawr]

Got mine yesterday, now the race to pass the break in period asap! Loving it so far even though i cant rinse it yet!

[@blueberrycobbler]

Toua Yang It’s not your money, sweet pea.

[@behindthen0thing525]

@@babblingidiot7903 don't worry about what other people do.

[@behindthen0thing525]

@@babblingidiot7903 ive got an m4. Don't worry about what others do

[@donmckee90]

Dammit, I've been quiet for too long; where is Sutcliffe???? I demand you release him !!!

[@dln.sweeney]

He's over at Auto Express these days.

[@GSXRwant1]

well done, no extra well done you actually stayed on your side of the road, even on that tight narrow road.....your a good driver!

[@thehauke7981]

Would love to see a head to head with the 718. it might take the win which would be very impressive. Love what BMW is giving us these days

[@storck08]

"No reason to buy a regular M2 when you can buy Competition." If you'd do your research properly you would know that after introduction of the M2 Competition the production of the regular M2 was stopped. You cant buy it know, there's only M2 Competition available at the dealerships.

[@autoblipper3546]

storck08 you can buy second hand you idiot.

[@rajchoudhury5130]

Yessss get mine December, cannot wait! Excellent review

[@atthelord]

Ahh.. you’re a watch guy too! I see an SKX009 on your wrist .. on a NATO at that !

[@FurkanCemTurfanda]

It seems like most car guys are.

[@yetidh9]

Looks like the standard rubber strap to me. Doubt he's a watch guy.

[@atthelord]

yetidh9 you’re right .. it is on rubber !

[@lovesnow5311]

Green Hell lap time: BMW M2 Competition 7:54 718 Cayman S 7:47 (同Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera) 718 Cayman GTS 7:40 (同Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 ) 981 Cayman S 7:55 981 Cayman GT4 7:42 (同997 GT3)

[@andrewmoorhouse687]

I’ve got a feeling BMW have responded to the slight criticism of the standard M2 by producing this. Arguably it’s the car it should always have been. I think with the original M2 they were worried about stepping on the M3 and M4’s toes. With a new one just around the corner and the launch of Competition M3s and 4s plus a CS version, they have more wiggle room. They also had to distance it from the B58 powered M Performance cars, which were as fast or faster in certain circumstances, if only in a straight line. BMW seem determined to up their game on all models recently. New Z4, 8 and 3 all sound promising. As a BMW fan I hope so.

[@ChrisDorgan]

Got the original M2, don't think I can afford another bout of BMW depreciation even though this makes me want to upgrade. A shame they couldn't get some more weight out of it to at least keep it the same weight as the original. I realise that's the extra turbo & cooling but yea, should have worked harder to get that weight down as low as poss and really feel the extra power and torque. Engine sounds nice in that vid, that's the main thing everyone was worrying about

[@geroton6776]

Get some cheap upgrades from Dinan to make the car better handling and some engine upgrade without putting a lot of money.

[@koruki]

same situation, felt screwed over tbh. They marketed it like it was going to be like the 1M, "limited" production, what they didn't say was built til they release a competition lol. Sadly all the things the competition had was pretty much what we all wanted and was happy to pay extra for from day one. I do think the original M2 has a better sound but I would have liked optional seats, M setting buttons (theres a damn gap where it was before on the damn steering wheel!) and bigger brakes. Majority of the original M2 owners could afford the competition. They screwed over the first lot of F90 M5 buyers too releasing a competition literally 2 months after release.

[@sonnyblack0870]

Chris Dorgan I’d keep the M2 you already have anyway. I’m not feeling BMW’s new grille design. I don’t know why they’d abandon their main trademark design trait. The kidney grille is iconic, the new single piece design actually more resembles Kia which has always been trying to resemble BMW to a degree.

[@ChrisDorgan]

Insurance, initial expenditure and further harm to resale cost makes this a pointless option for me in the UK.

[@ChrisDorgan]

People say "they never said limited production" no they didn't say limited. They made suggestions that they weren't going to build many, then they said they would only build what customers ordered for a limited time. Next minute, they got loads of orders, so decided oh hey, we'll build loads then and drop them on the dealers once the initial waiting list has been served. Boom arse falls out of them so they go OK now we need to pick this back up, rename, the engine it should have had anyway (they probably just needed to get rid of the left over N55's before the reg changes) & all the options the car should have had from the beginning. I sound so bitter, and I suppose I am really because had they stuck to only delivering cars that were ordered by customers we wouldn't be in such a bad position with them and then the release of the Competition wouldn't sting so much. This is why I'll never be buying a new BMW, it was a life lesson. However saying that, the car is one of the most exciting cars I've ever owned day to day (not that I've had a mad array of sports cars but I've been around all kinds) it sounds superb with the M Performance Exhaust, it feels quick, it handles great and it's size makes it a joy on a country road when the larger cars look to struggle for room. I do love the car, it's just the anti climax of everything else that's tarnished it a bit.

[@crapcork]

I have a 2017 M240i xDrive. The $13k premium over what I paid for mine is the only thing preventing me from getting one (although I LOVE my M240).

[@jaykay7932]

So its a very hard decision for me personally as I'll be looking to upgrade from the Golf R in the next year or two. I really enjoy motorway driving on the Golf. A common trek for me is north bound via the a1m, breaking off at whetherby then heading to skipton via harogate on the excellent A59. The Golf is fantastic for a nice comfortable quiet motorway cruise, flipping to the monster once i hit the A59. I really fear that buying either this or the Cayman GT4 il really really really HATE the motorway commutes... I already suffer from tinnitus so the last thing i need is to contribute to my deafness with rawer road tyre and wind noise! Its an even harder choice if the Golf R 400 comes out

[@DonLee1980]

The only BMW I'd buy right now.

[@BEAR_S55]

To answer the question in the title... YES! Yes it is!!

[@OldManOnTrak]

Aaaaaaarggghhhhh. It’s a coupé not a coop, FFS! And yes, I want one. But do I swap my e90 M3 for one?

[@anthonyisgro7185]

*I took delivery of my 2019 M2 Competition in April 2022* 🥰

[@ThomasHoffDE]

Drove a 2020 this week. Nice little car - perfectly balanced, etc. Deal breaker for me is the exhaust note. I drive an F-type now and the M2 Comp just whined up and down. No real pops or anything audible. even with the window down I could barely hear anything. Its a big part of the excitement for me (so not getting it.) Otherwise a great price/deal imo.

[@danielohio9462]

The Ultimate Driving Machine

[@Gambantein]

The 718 Cayman has mid-engine balance, is lighter and has much wider tires. A test with both cars on the same dimension tires mould be interesting.

[@tedtheturbot]

Please keep a pov cam inset..get a real feel for what's going on.

[@onegod4009]

This m2 comp manual will compliment my 2014 m4 dct in my garage

[@VEDEMRACING99]

Man, would love to test how nimble it is!

[@reerbaadia1896]

Go with confidence to a bmw dealer and don't request but ask for a test drive. Ring it's neck and then bring it back saying "It's just not me" hahaha.

[@raupenimmersatt6906]

1500kg+ wont be nimble sadly

[@MarioVergel]

Such a great car. Cant wait to see it in person!

[@gzc9394]

Mid-Engine is the proper cornering machine to be in all day all time! But yeah that 4-cylinder might be a bit of let down there. A good and fun car not necessary to be super fast. Instead it should be count by how much smile it put into your face. You just can't go wrong with BMW and Porsche. Enjoy driving folks!

[@philtechGT3]

Saw mine at the dealership yesterday. Can't way to be behind the wheel !

[@mpowerrr]

I really hope BMW M is back on track again. As far as I have noticed...not witnessed, is that they lost it a bit. I mean BMW M used to be much better than a AMG of RS when it comes to feeling, sound and driveability. The last couple of years they were not so good....but this sounds very good though. I still have faith in BMW though...

[@MarMPB]

You all heard the man! A back to back comparision with the Cayman S is in order!

[@DreamWorkDrive]

Nice video. I'd think the RS3 would be the closest "rival" to this car, while the Cayman should be A110's direct rival...

[@TheEryk03]

TT RS*

[@DreamWorkDrive]

Right, forgot about the RS version.

[@sullacicero2610]

I’m now in the driving Miss Daisy mode. Bloody hell, I wish I could afford one😂

[@نوافالجميل-ب6ض]

Okay should I get the 6 cylinder cayman GTS or the m2 comp

[@marlborom2c829]

Different feel to the driving. The Cayman is unique. The M2C so controllable, but chunkier. Still love it!

[@toniserrano8]

Hello, I have a Cayman 981 Gts naturally aspirated six-cylinder 340 hp and I want to change after six years, this would be a candidate, but when I hear the sound of the flat six sports exhaust, the aplomb, the corner entry, it makes me think, if you already have a good sports car, what are you doing thinking about changing. What do I do?

[@aitorgallego98]

Your car is better by a mile

[@LaudaMaestro]

What a sweet spot that car is. Finally BMW.

[@operamatthew]

1st gen M2 owners got gypped with the engine swap.

[@blueberrycobbler]

Matthew Bailey not when it comes to sound, which is an important part of the experience. There is a reason why these video reviews of the 2019 M2 don’t include sound clips of the exhaust sound. They only feature the inside manufactured noise coming through the speakers.

[@operamatthew]

blueberrycobbler i agree with you. the N55 sounds worlds better than the S55

[@markcrystal8025]

It is actually not that close. The Nurburgring time for the M2 Competition vs The Cayman S or Cayman GTS are off by like 12-15 seconds which is actually quite a bit. The M2 on the other hand is the more comfortable everyday driving car as the seating position in the Cayman is like sitting in an upright or 90 degree angle chair. If you are 6 feet tall or over then it becomes quite uncomfortable in day to day traffic. On the track the Porsche Cayman is a better car but on the streets the M2 is the more comfortable and usable car. The Cayman S does look better though and is not as bouncy as the M2 is. The 2 series chassis platform is just bouncy for some reason where that is not the case with the Cayman. The Porsche Cayman was built as a sports car where the BMW 2 series was modified to become a sports car.

[@bo9dan]

Awesome package ..if you say this is considered a mid range sport car , what is then the best entry level sport car right now ?

[@sa.fernandeztm6743]

Mustang

[@TheChannel1978]

Maybe a Japanese rwd car like Toyota 86 or Mazda Miata, or a BMW 135i/140i/ M240i. Or a Subaru Sti or Mitsubishi Evo, if those are still being made.

[@WhatTheFragrance]

Are the backseats worth it over the Porsche? Because a lot of things about the other car is more advertising

[@aychihuahua99]

The updated competition package is a good improvement, but it's still only 25-30lbs lighter than the M4. So from a driver's perspective I'd choose the Cayman

[@aaronholland2771]

How much does it weigh compared to the M3/4 for this smaller car? And weight comparison to the Cayman?

[@Treeezplz]

I just wish the rear lights looked like the m3s. I'm so picky lol. I literally love this car but hate the rear end...

[@Tavarahissi]

Watching that car on that track only one thing comes to my mind.. "M2 drivers have no friends"

[@tintertrailers208]

Haha.

[@RacingRalphEVO]

I guess many of the viewers here are too young to know such classic quotes.

[@AugustinianThomist]

broke the cock-o-meter lmao

[@1seipai]

It would be interesting to compare it to an e46 M3 CS.

[@TheHollaata]

thank you for giving the tiers

[@pralaykumardas5694]

When the m5cs Is gonna come ,no other car manufacturer can beat that at that price it is a beast and even faster than m2 or m3cs

[@markusplotz2259]

Faster in a straight line. M2 or M4 are still more fun than the M5.

[@pralaykumardas5694]

@@markusplotz2259 yeah they are more nimble and can change direction faster but cannot hold the top speed and acc. Of the m5

[@jim8462]

Does anyone think the old m2 will hold its value like the 1m now you can’t buy it anymore ?

[@dln.sweeney]

I doubt it, the 1M production numbers were a lot smaller. I'm sure it will go down as a highlight of the M car catalogue though.

[@babblingidiot7903]

No. M2 will not hold value. Only way m2 demands go up is if BMW all of a sudden completely stops M2 production. Which won't happen anytime soon.

[@mercuryace6063]

Very very nice SKX009! Looking excellant in Pepsi

[@bullish1920]

I guess competition package would rival a 718 GTS more than a S. Which, engine note aside, has to be the better driving experience. What if I just get an exhaust for the 718? IPE? Fabspeed? Pops Pops?

[@misterkim4524]

A Porsche is still a Porsche . Can’t beat them

[@johnjackson12]

Why is the engine de turned though?? I mean its got the full m3/4 engine why hold it back 20bhp? Problem is now you cant buy the M2 knowing theres a better car out there. how much extra is it though? manufacturers always seem to tinker with cars and hike the price up each time. Leon Cupra being a perfect example, 10bhp increments for an extra £1000 a time lol

[@stefanfreestylez]

Just get tune and itll be in the 500s no problemo

[@johnjackson12]

@@stefanfreestylez oh easily. Just don't know why it has less to begin with. It's like the 1 series 114i 103bhp. 116i with around 140bhp and 118i with 170. They all have the exact same engine but they charge you more for the higher power. A tune on all of them ends up at around 220bhp so a 114i can more than double its power with a tune lol

[@stefanfreestylez]

@@johnjackson12 they run a business its a comapny they want money thats all. I guess with higher end models like m3/4 compared to this m2 you get soft leather, more availible options and better styling. I can see why someone would pick one or other but foe the 116i thing....lol well theres not much to say either u know what youre buying or youre just another idiot goin in there wasting money.

[@zemekiel]

I guess it's because they didn't want it to be faster than the M3/M4.

[@TheBowerbird]

According to dynos it's really only detuned on paper.

[@adr0110]

Gota say it. The best M2 Comp review on youtube!! By far...

[@tigerbalm666]

I can fit a small water heater in it's box from Sears in my Speed3...can a $60k+ Caymen or M2 do that?

[@saskwotch19764]

I’ll take one in burnt orange please. Great review 👍

[@Unfinished_sentenc]

Steering rack? I thought that it has an electric “X-Box” steering system. ...

[@pappyodanial]

Mid-engine... balance? Every drive a Carrera GT? Or an MR2? Mid engine cars do anything but balance in a turn... the shift weight from back to front in a really weird way. If anything the RS3 is a competitor, albeit awd. The cayman doesn't come close power wise to either cars.

[@betaz1000]

Dam, we don't get manual version in malaysia for m2 base model

[@mrmarrow8918]

Great review!

[@stubailey9433]

Used to love the Cayman, but would buy this over one now due to "that 4 pot engine".

[@bentremy]

This bloke is wearing a seiko. SKX. Nice

[@nicksokolis6343]

What about the Apline A110?

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

Off topic, nice SKX009 on your wrist :)

[@XYZ-321-1]

Do you feel the extra weight at the front?

[@jdfd4906]

rather have a cayman. Even a base one would be gd. A bmw is a normal car made sporty, a Porsche is a thoroughbred sports car.

[@jdfd4906]

TigR 5hark it means it’s a normal, designed to be a ordinary car from the start but with M-sport and M performance to enhance it’s sportiness. Hence it will never be a Porsche but a sporty ordinary car.

[@jdfd4906]

Neil M nah. An M is a 2/3/4/5/6 series made as sportiest as possible. Checkout the Nurburgring lap time. Even the slowest 718 cayman is faster than the m4.

[@jdfd4906]

Neil M put them on the same exact conditions and tyres. I doubt the diff will be as what u quoted. Besides the m2 comp cost a fair Amt more than base cayman with pdk, u won’t spec full options on a cayman right? As for the m3 cs, it’s shitload more expensive than the normal m3, which the base cayman can easily beat on the ring.

[@jdfd4906]

Neil M BMW M cars to my knowledge are base versions, your 2,3,4,5,6 series, made to be as driver focused and high performance as possible. The M2 comp is arguably the most ‘driver focused’ modern BMW M car they produced till date, hence the comparison with the cayman, a sports car designed from ground up. Just because you are a fan of BMW M racing Pedigree does not mean that the cayman does a worse job as a sports car. After all, the M2 Comp is a sports car and buyers WILL cross shop the this with the cayman. End of story.

[@jdfd4906]

Neil M u could say that the M2 has 2 rear seats and a decent sized trunk but the rear seats won’t fit anyone >5’6. As for the trunk space, the cayman has 2 which combined is only 80L less than the m2, then again who drives around with a full trunk all the time? People who require additional trunk or rear seat space will step up to the M3 or the M4. An M2 is a half baked solution for them.

[@imadude85]

Is any of the M2 iteration faster than an Fk8 type R at the nurburgring?