BMW M4 Comp G82 vs Chevy Corvette C8 drag and roll race. Shocking Result.

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Sam CarLegion

Sam CarLegion

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@Luke-cb3ly
@Luke-cb3ly 11 ай бұрын
I've seen several dynamometer tests on both cars and the results were as follows. C8 430whp - 450whp. The M4 competition's was always between 509whp - 536whp. In short, the difference in power between the two is quite large and the result was obvious from the start, since in addition to being AWD, the BMW has an advantage of more or less 60whp
@laurent36
@laurent36 11 ай бұрын
X3M and M3/4 make 480whp consistent on dyno. Anything showing 500+ is exaggerated
@Luke-cb3ly
@Luke-cb3ly 11 ай бұрын
@@lilnicky131 ????
@Luke-cb3ly
@Luke-cb3ly 11 ай бұрын
@@laurent36 you don't know shit about cars.
@m.b.6744
@m.b.6744 11 ай бұрын
M4 is heavier than the Corvette and has a better transmission. Stop bring up excuses. M4 is faster than this Corvette. That’s it!
@Luke-cb3ly
@Luke-cb3ly 11 ай бұрын
@@m.b.6744 lmfao. Try again loser
@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921
@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921 11 ай бұрын
This is far from shocking. BMW and Mercedes have never given the REAL horsepower figures for their cars.
@smollkitteh1337
@smollkitteh1337 11 ай бұрын
Its about the transmission too, not only horsepower
@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921
@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921 11 ай бұрын
@@smollkitteh1337 Not in this case. This exact comparison was done by Edmunds with similar results. Speculation is this is not a 503hp BMW, more like 600hp.
@kuvyoghmoobamelica6883
@kuvyoghmoobamelica6883 11 ай бұрын
​@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921 I agree with that. Most of BMW cars are heat soaked before doing their testing, which results in lower hp on dyno. I had a 2015 RC350 F-sport and that thing was alright fast, with 306hp, butttttt.. when I test drove the 2018 N55 Motor M2 with 19,000 miles, holy shit, that thing was definitely not 365hp as advertised lol. Felt more like 420-430hp and 450lb torque. It's really not that bad for $40,000 used. I'm also considering the m2 competition "advertised" 405hp/406ft-lb. It's probably more like 450 or 475hp.
@ClintG-rh6kh
@ClintG-rh6kh 11 ай бұрын
I believe there is speculation that the hp figures are whp...which makes sense. Good stuff Sam!
@waynedeason213
@waynedeason213 11 ай бұрын
German auto makers do give their real horsepower numbers, they just do it in the worst possible conditions. So this M4 will make it's advertised 503 horsepower at 15,000 ft and 110 degrees with 90% humidity. What it makes elsewhere is a different story. They do this so you are guaranteed advertised horsepower no matter where you are and what conditions you are in.
@latino914
@latino914 11 ай бұрын
This was expected. M4 just an amazing machine. Great job BMW
@henzo7087
@henzo7087 11 ай бұрын
Yep it is
@Duece-_-
@Duece-_- 11 ай бұрын
False
@mcmc1863
@mcmc1863 11 ай бұрын
​@@henzo7087aside ftom the warranty work coming in
@user-yi9hz3or2t
@user-yi9hz3or2t 11 ай бұрын
@@Duece-_- it clearly is a great machine walked a mid engine car lol
@Highlander1432
@Highlander1432 10 ай бұрын
They are so much faster than previous M cars It's incredible
@mauriciomorales8863
@mauriciomorales8863 11 ай бұрын
Wow what a great race! Interesting to see how two very different cars (but similar on paper) perform. Man those beemers can pull… (they make more hp for sure) the way BMW tune those engines is amazing
@Raven_A5
@Raven_A5 11 ай бұрын
At my local tuner shop, I sat there and watched the guys dyno a g82 pre-tune. It was making 536hp and 473lb tq on 93 😂😂
@user-yi9hz3or2t
@user-yi9hz3or2t 11 ай бұрын
Bmw is smart for underrating their cars
@florinrad4647
@florinrad4647 10 ай бұрын
Strange because on my dyno show me 517hp. I think you talking shitttttt 😢
@florinrad4647
@florinrad4647 10 ай бұрын
​, so I go to the fish market, buy and pay for 2 fish 🐟, when I arrive home, find 3 fish on the bag???? In this case, thank you bmw for giving me more for the money
@patatr4943
@patatr4943 7 ай бұрын
still not same as 700 hp 💀
@bigdh2os814
@bigdh2os814 11 ай бұрын
As a 2021 C8 owner, I can appreciate this comparison. Both are great performance cars and respect should be mutual across the board.
@kc2213
@kc2213 11 ай бұрын
“Yea yea straight forward” proceeds to hit rev limiter 😂
@jamesroan
@jamesroan 11 ай бұрын
As we know the German monsters BMW, Mercedes, Porsche and Audi/VW never give the real numbers when it comes to horsepower and torque. Plus the transmissions are usually dual clutch with the capability to tune it to shift even quicker. Doesn’t really surprise me here. I knew this would happen
@volkswagenhawk7094
@volkswagenhawk7094 11 ай бұрын
M4 is torq converted corvette is DCT fyi
@mcmc1863
@mcmc1863 11 ай бұрын
You knew they were'nt going to use the C8 launch control?!
@user-yi9hz3or2t
@user-yi9hz3or2t 11 ай бұрын
@@volkswagenhawk7094better gearing than the vette at the end of the day
@TallTimbersUSA
@TallTimbersUSA 11 ай бұрын
That was a fun matchup, but not difficult to predict a winner on.
@BOOSTEDDUDE
@BOOSTEDDUDE 11 ай бұрын
That M4 gets Down! Impressive launch with the X-Drive! Great way to start my Saturday with a new drag race from Sam Da Man!
@bakerbrian41
@bakerbrian41 11 ай бұрын
I sold BMW’s for 8 years, two things are true 1: BMW understates power 2: the transmissions are superb. On a side note, the AWD system shuts down and reverts all power to the rear at 100-110 mph.
@JBWDC3
@JBWDC3 11 ай бұрын
That launch with the Xdrive mode is insane!!! Gave me Tesla Model S Plaid vibes!!
@DMCarReviews
@DMCarReviews 11 ай бұрын
I mean it's only 0.5 seconds apart from the Plaid's 0-60 time, and the M3 actually does the 60ft and 0-30 better than the Plaid. A tuned M3 is faster than a Plaid. They are already in the 8s with proper setups
@Bimmer_Bill
@Bimmer_Bill 11 ай бұрын
@@DMCarReviews and runs 9.4 with basic bolt ons on e85/gas mix full weight stock tires.
@DMCarReviews
@DMCarReviews 11 ай бұрын
@@Bimmer_Bill Correct!
@G82Watts
@G82Watts 10 ай бұрын
If seen one with a simple turbo upgrade run a 8.9 quarter mile. Not even a full build
@Bimmer_Bill
@Bimmer_Bill 10 ай бұрын
@@G82Watts yup! Just did it! Stock turbos, stock engine, full weight with comfort seats. The s58 and b58 platforms are phenomenal!
@halow4
@halow4 11 ай бұрын
That BMW does not have enough of a power and tq advantage to negate its roughly 250lb weight disadvantage. Point is, its definitely underrated. Its probably around 503whp not crank
@dayadam16
@dayadam16 11 ай бұрын
They say 10hp is roughly 100pds or so. A 50whp gap is plenty of a gap to shrugg off 250 pds on a roll. Bmw's numbers are whp and not crank.
@nitefawl
@nitefawl 11 ай бұрын
. It has more than enough power to compensate for 250lbs considering that 250lbs is a decimal if were talking hp/weight ratio. It makes 0 difference in acceleration.
@ast1897
@ast1897 10 ай бұрын
The weight varies depending on the configuration and packages. An M3/M4 with carbon bucket seats and carbon ceramic brakes can be considerably lighter than a fully loaded car without those. Also, it matters where the weight is distributed. C8 wheels are bigger and a few pounds heavier.
@yusufgta4341
@yusufgta4341 6 ай бұрын
N/A vs boosted
@bobbyspanino6874
@bobbyspanino6874 11 ай бұрын
Sam, funny how the comments are mostly people saying unfair race. But me, for the first time in a while.. thought it was a great race. Well done. That guy knows how to drive his vette, and you did well in the bmw.
@LearningFast
@LearningFast 11 ай бұрын
Corvette C8 E-Ray is the one to get. Please try to get one on the channel whenever they start getting delivered.
@rizakayan
@rizakayan 9 ай бұрын
This is how car drag comparison must be done. Probably best drag channel on youtube. M4 is really good.
@hashbrown4278
@hashbrown4278 2 ай бұрын
Not really
@petermeister7191
@petermeister7191 11 ай бұрын
Nice comparison! It didn´t shock me at all, I expected that outcome! C8´s lower mass centre is giving it a real advantage from a both RW start. Roll race M4 walks away and M4 in Xdrive mode is not comparable at all. Despite the M4 might have more power than factory claimed but more weight than the C8, it cannot keep up in the roll... Guess at least the sound competition will be pro C8
@Bimmer_Bill
@Bimmer_Bill 11 ай бұрын
In awd sport mode, it’s faster than the c8 in all aspects. RWD mode does not put the same power/torque down. If you want to compare RWD platforms you compare the standard comp.
@hashbrown4278
@hashbrown4278 2 ай бұрын
@@Bimmer_Billnot really
@GrandNattyPappy
@GrandNattyPappy 11 ай бұрын
Great video! Could you make the text of the specs of the car bigger? And show both at the same time, with both sets of data following the same syntax? Would be much easier to compare that way
@kenoh818
@kenoh818 11 ай бұрын
Yes I was about to ask the same!
@DailyDownshift
@DailyDownshift 11 ай бұрын
That's the difference between 500 American horsepower and 500 German horsepower.. One manufacturer rates em at crank, the other at wheel.
@2seep
@2seep 11 ай бұрын
That’s boost for you
@S8ER
@S8ER 11 ай бұрын
@@2seep I'm curious what you mean by that?
@MrTroytroy
@MrTroytroy 11 ай бұрын
Technically you’re wrong - they both advertise crank hp. Probably different standards. The real killer is that the BMW is making way more torque down low and through the rev range.
@hpickettz34
@hpickettz34 11 ай бұрын
​@MrTroytroy where does it say bmw advertise crank hp
@MrTroytroy
@MrTroytroy 11 ай бұрын
@@hpickettz34 in Australia at least and the vast majority of countries - all power numbers, and pretty much all manufacturers use crank hp (it’s a bigger number for a start and an industry standard). Some use DIN or SAE, JIS, bhp, PS etc. but fundamentally similar. Density altitude will be a bigger determinant than the difference between some of the international crank measurements. Whp is flawed as this could be measured by Mustang Dyno, dynamics, or wheel hub dyno and takes into account even more variables
@andrewcapone3345
@andrewcapone3345 11 ай бұрын
German engineering at it's finest! Heavier with only a slight HP advantage! Turbos + Xdrive is a beast!
@pablosantana6071
@pablosantana6071 11 ай бұрын
I owned a C8 Stingray and a BMW with the B58 engine, I will tell you BMW sand bag the true HP on all their engines. If BMW says 503HP, that is at the wheel not at the crank. I have first hand experience with the S58 engine, and I tell you is a beast.
@andrewcapone3345
@andrewcapone3345 11 ай бұрын
@@pablosantana6071 Yes sir I agree, they definitely understate the HP. I have a 2016 M4 competition and it feels great with the stock “444 hp”!
@ramindavani
@ramindavani 11 ай бұрын
FYI those M4 Comps make 520-530 hp to the wheels whereas the C8 makes 440 hp to the wheels. So the hp advantage is not slight. its big. So the BMW claim of 503 hp is 1.one wheel horse power and 2. it is understimiated for business puposes.
@G-Rated
@G-Rated 11 ай бұрын
Yea ai suppose German engineering truly shines when compared to *base model* American engineering. Lol. Price and trim level should be considered when you’re comparing the performance of someone’s top model (M4C) amongst their lineup to someone’s base model (Stingray).
@andrewcapone3345
@andrewcapone3345 11 ай бұрын
I agree! But you sound salty AF and a real homer! Cool story though! 😆 @@G-Rated
@samidarwish86
@samidarwish86 11 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t be surprised if the beemer put 503 whp stock
@WineHouse33
@WineHouse33 11 ай бұрын
They're notoriously underrated from the factory for sure.
@6.2Slomaro
@6.2Slomaro 11 ай бұрын
@@WineHouse33bmw had the car in the worst possible condition when they did the dyno runs 😂
@brainwashed1542
@brainwashed1542 11 ай бұрын
They definitely lied about how much HP it has wow has at least 60 to 100 more HP than they say it has easily…
@supremecy187
@supremecy187 11 ай бұрын
Not surprised by result. When Bmw advertise horsepower it is wheel horsepower. G80x dyno at about 480-500 wheel horsepower so crank is like 530-550.
@MrJrolon1975
@MrJrolon1975 11 ай бұрын
Great cars! I am wondering how good are the new Corevette E-ray AWD systems compared to the BMW Xdrive.
@jefryherrera3242
@jefryherrera3242 11 ай бұрын
Them BMWs are something else! Next, we should see a BMW M5CS vs a Corvette Z06! Would love to see that 🔥💯
@emekaiheanacho274
@emekaiheanacho274 11 ай бұрын
Z06 would win!!! It's just so much lighter and similar power
@jefryherrera3242
@jefryherrera3242 11 ай бұрын
@emekaiheanacho274 idk it might be closer than you think. The m4 walked from this corvette and technically on paper the corvette should've won. Since its near identical power plus being lighter. Even in RWD mode the M4 was hawking it down the runway!
@emekaiheanacho274
@emekaiheanacho274 11 ай бұрын
@@jefryherrera3242 exactly
@Bimmer_Bill
@Bimmer_Bill 11 ай бұрын
@@emekaiheanacho274lol don’t be sure about that. Most 0-60 tests have them neck and neck and we know BMW are the ones that don’t overeaggerate HP. Example most dynos have the 660 hp zl1 and c7 zo6 only 70 wheel hp difference when on paper it’s supposed to be 160 crank hp more than the m3/m4 comp.
@emekaiheanacho274
@emekaiheanacho274 11 ай бұрын
@@Bimmer_Bill Interesting 👍👍
@gray09wrx
@gray09wrx 11 ай бұрын
I think the E Ray would be a better contender than a regular C8
@G82Watts
@G82Watts 10 ай бұрын
U realize the e ray is in another price range.
@Greenmonkey552
@Greenmonkey552 5 ай бұрын
True - would easily walk the sedan, and more relevant since same price range
@ardoin_337
@ardoin_337 2 ай бұрын
Yeah and an M4 CS would be a better pick than an M4 and it's STILL cheaper than an eray
@sungkim742
@sungkim742 11 ай бұрын
At higher altitudes, force induction engines will have a big advantage.
@tracewaybos
@tracewaybos 11 ай бұрын
My only problem with new BMW's is that you have to look at them...
@jamesbarbato2192
@jamesbarbato2192 11 ай бұрын
😂
@flashjordyn03
@flashjordyn03 7 ай бұрын
I feel like you get used to the new grille design after seeing it a few times. It's actually quite an interesting design
@johngabucci
@johngabucci 7 ай бұрын
The beaver teeth grew on me.. especially the M3..
@tracewaybos
@tracewaybos 7 ай бұрын
@@johngabucci Ugly chicks need love to, there's nothing wrong with that.
@trueyork9290
@trueyork9290 3 ай бұрын
If you don't like the grill...get the M8....I have one.
@1slowq50
@1slowq50 11 ай бұрын
Wow In Denver c8 barely run 13.5 it’s crazy how much altitude affects it!
@FordPickUPRed
@FordPickUPRed 11 ай бұрын
That is horrible considering a Kia Stinger in Ontario Canada can do 10s on stock turbos.
@1slowq50
@1slowq50 11 ай бұрын
@@FordPickUPRed yep the hellcats hear barely run 12.0 and that’s on drag radials
@nickmelin248
@nickmelin248 6 ай бұрын
@@FordPickUPRed in vancouver at sea level i see tuned g80 m3s and m4s run 9.8 to 10.3 all day its insane used to live in the rockies only hypercars would run mid 10 s
@WineHouse33
@WineHouse33 11 ай бұрын
BMW power numbers are notoriously underrated. Shocking only if you've never owned a BMW M series
@LeeXRV
@LeeXRV 11 ай бұрын
Actually, they are usually dead on the money on a proper dyno, not a tuner dyno which produces massively inflated figures. It's a testament to BMW engineering, the cars are always on the money in terms of power. This is what you want, precision engineering, not shonky engineering with cars making different power. The only manufacturer that seriously underrates their cars is McLaren who always quotes worst numbers, they also like BMW though reliably produce the same numbers from car to car.
@WineHouse33
@WineHouse33 11 ай бұрын
Nice attempt, but throughly incorrect@@LeeXRV
@LeeXRV
@LeeXRV 11 ай бұрын
@@WineHouse33 - Nice attempt? Odd reply.
@sirprince888
@sirprince888 11 ай бұрын
The Ultimate Driving Machine.
@TampaDE5
@TampaDE5 11 ай бұрын
Bro can't even shift a dct without slamming the rev limiter, can't launch a car with launch control. I'm speechless
@fortijr
@fortijr 11 ай бұрын
I expected that outcome as someone noted the RW dyno numbers., but it didn’t sound like you were using launch control on the C8. In general your BMW driver seemed more aggressive.
@AlexFlores-cr6hb
@AlexFlores-cr6hb 11 ай бұрын
5:38 corvette clearly engaging in launch control.
@nubi4life
@nubi4life 11 ай бұрын
I call bs. That Corvette was shifting way too early in all the runs except for last. You could even hear the guy clicking the paddle shifters. And then the Corvette beats the BMW at the end? You guys are so gullible. 😂🤣
@endgam3ss64
@endgam3ss64 4 ай бұрын
@@nubi4life the c8 beat the bmw at the end because the bmw was in rear wheel drive mode and not the xdrive mode. Xdrive mode is a lot faster and that’s what it was using in all the other races.
@THECANDYISGONE
@THECANDYISGONE 11 ай бұрын
Sam would you take a new M4 comp or new GT500?
@LearningFast
@LearningFast 11 ай бұрын
Great video. What was the time for the XDrive mode? Was it below 11 seconds for the 1/4 mile?
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 11 ай бұрын
I would imagine under 11 - 2.2 0-60
@cysawyer4829
@cysawyer4829 7 ай бұрын
Mine pulls low 11.2s all day long
@TheBreakfastLover
@TheBreakfastLover 11 ай бұрын
Putting an AWD vehicle in RWD mode isn't exactly fair either, as all the additional weight from the AWD-drivetrain still contributes to the curb weight. If you put the M4 in RWD-mode, it would only be fair to add at least 200 lbs (eg. a passenger) to the C8.
@TheOverpowered1
@TheOverpowered1 11 ай бұрын
yup
@jagger2001
@jagger2001 10 ай бұрын
That's a great visual for the performance added to my car by installing a K&N filter for that extra 8HP boost. I knew it felt faster
@AcuraChannel
@AcuraChannel 11 ай бұрын
Sam, we can barely see the specs now after you made the change. Good race.... surprised at the outcome for sure.
@weltonmurray6744
@weltonmurray6744 11 ай бұрын
Not surprised today i just raced a c8 today from a 40 roll it was about 45 degrees today and from a 40 my Ats-v was making a little more boost than usual it was neck and neck all the way till like 150 then we ran into traffic!From a dig he would have had me !
@rickybobby4017
@rickybobby4017 11 ай бұрын
Not a shocking result to me more horsepower and torque usually win 🤙🤙🤙
@shaneducholke364
@shaneducholke364 11 ай бұрын
The fastest model of one car versus the slowest of another car really shows the nasty over all.
@show2ime
@show2ime 11 ай бұрын
That isn’t even the fastest M4- that would be the M4 CSL… it would have been worse 😂
@N0neofyourbusiness.
@N0neofyourbusiness. 11 ай бұрын
@@show2imec8 Eray would dog the shit out of ANY bmw production car. Same with the c8 z06. Same with the c7 z06, same with the c7 zr1 lol. Cut the crap. 2023 M4 CSL is so slow! That it did 7:15 at the Nurburgring. When the corvette did 7:13 back in 2015 with the c7 z06 with a manual transmission by a car magazine journalist. C8 z06 ran 10.2 bone stock by Will farmer, go look it up. C8 ERAY isn’t out yet but savagegeese recorded the c8 Eray doing 2.2 0-60. Hagerty recorded a c8 Eray doing a 10.4 on non prepped surface. C7 z06 ran 10.4 by will farmer 100% stock. C7 zr1 ran high 9’s again by Will farmer (AKA professional drag racer) and again STOCK. Cut the crap.
@norwegianblue2017
@norwegianblue2017 9 ай бұрын
Entry level Corvette w/ RWD vs halo M4 Competition with AWD. Got it. Now let's see them around the track.
@carlossantiago7852
@carlossantiago7852 11 ай бұрын
Another great test. However, I heard both cars reving up before taking off in the XDrive drag race. But I only heard the C8 reving up on the RWD drag race. That make a significant difference.
@GrumblesM4
@GrumblesM4 4 ай бұрын
Sounds right. My 2020 with boot mode, exhaust and ram airs will smoke my c8. Mine is making around 540 rwhp and just rips!!! I’ve raced cammed ls7 z06’s and just shocked them. Even raced a couple of bikes and I always get the same reaction at the next stop. “Wow your car is freaking fast!!!
@TheTruePrudentOne
@TheTruePrudentOne 11 ай бұрын
Two different torque curves. The turbo in the bmw builds it's full torque like 2k rpms lower and quicker than the vette so I knew what the outcome would be. Power number alone aren't what would have made it equal, the way the power is built and delivered is what makes or breaks. Moral: N/A vs N/A same power ratings or Turbo vs Turbo same power ratings will be a closer race.
@Mikezagato15
@Mikezagato15 11 ай бұрын
Sam…note the go: mark. Say it or state it on the screen when u guys kick down
@mcmc1863
@mcmc1863 11 ай бұрын
Definatley not using launch conttol in C8, aside ftom very last race, heat revs building, not already built, a re-run is needed
@undercoverlc
@undercoverlc 11 ай бұрын
Nice. Been wanting to see this race on KZbin. I have an M3 Comp xdrive, but haven’t found a new corvette to race yet
@Icipher4
@Icipher4 11 ай бұрын
Not surprising to me. The Corvette is a beast up until 60, but falls on its face after that.
@willyswheelsg70modding99
@willyswheelsg70modding99 11 ай бұрын
Good race, m4 really takes a hit in RWD
@nhlanhlamagagula7467
@nhlanhlamagagula7467 11 ай бұрын
As expected with AWD weight would be fair for RWD not Xdrive M3 has same power but less weight, C8 beaten in all races
@MikeyG003
@MikeyG003 11 ай бұрын
C8 has advantage of mid engine. More weight on rear tires and comes with wider tires than m4 stock. Also NA motor with lower torque and less torque at lower rpm, so bmw rear tires gets blasted with way more torque and at low rpms, further giving it a hard time putting power down.
@G-Rated
@G-Rated 11 ай бұрын
⁠@@MikeyG003BMW does not execute traction control better than Chevrolet either. They will never put their power down as well as any high performance *gm* vehicle because their engineering does not exceed that of the Corvette racing team or Cadillac V-series performance division.
@MikeyG003
@MikeyG003 11 ай бұрын
⁠@@G-Ratedlol how dumb do you sound? The front engine M4 beats the mid engine stingray on Nurburgring, so much for your unstoppable corvette racing team. Oh yeah and so does the m4csl against the ZL1 1le on Nurburgring with less cylinders and power. Bmw engineering>
@hassanger8128
@hassanger8128 11 ай бұрын
Because using RWD will disable launch control and limit the power. BMW officially said many times that RWD mode is designated for drifting only and not drag racing, but everyone is now doing a drag race with the RWD mode.
@WilliamAbbate
@WilliamAbbate 11 ай бұрын
What was the first drag race time with the BMW using its x-drive?
@nickns23659
@nickns23659 11 ай бұрын
Great video Sam, not so shocking! 🤣
@advancedchiropractic667
@advancedchiropractic667 11 ай бұрын
I outran a friends 2022 M4 Competition in my modified 2006 Lotus Elise. It strange racing because I am in an archaic 6 speed manual against a all wheel drive modern vehicle. I did not blow the BMW away, but from a stand still my old school traction control would bog down terrible and I real the M4 in. I was really surprised how fast the M4 was, very impressive, but there was no real driving. The M4 just stop and gone. Me bouncing off the rev limiter a few times. Just fyi my Lotus runs mid 10’s, but a shift mistake the BMW was gone.
@robsreef
@robsreef 11 ай бұрын
What was the time on the BMW Xdrive mode 0-60?
@Bimmer_Bill
@Bimmer_Bill 11 ай бұрын
A 2 door purpose built mid engine sports car vs a 2 door 4 seat sports luxury sedan and both with ~500 hp. Better bring the z06 next time boys. 😂😂😂
@G-Rated
@G-Rated 11 ай бұрын
Y’all really feel better after this race huh? 😂
@Bimmer_Bill
@Bimmer_Bill 11 ай бұрын
@@G-Rated yup, taking my whole family on trips while smoking c8’s at the same time… it’s pretty nice. Oh and the m4 comp xDrive beats the c8 on the reference road course (Nurburgring) too (7’30” vs 7’28.5”). Better bring the ZO6.
@G-Rated
@G-Rated 11 ай бұрын
@@Bimmer_Bill Yea, we’re going to bring the ZO6 and maybe the E-Ray too just to humble you down, because everyone here knows whenever *you* say “C8” you’re actually talking about a base model Stingray ($65k sports-car) - which is the only Corvette that will lose a race to a $90k BMW. 😂
@Bimmer_Bill
@Bimmer_Bill 11 ай бұрын
@@G-Rated lol you’re trying to compare a purpose built sports car to a family car? 🤣🤣🤣🤣wrong, 🥲🥲🥲🤣btw the m4 CSL is even faster than the track specific Camaro zl1 1le despite having 120 less horsepower. The mighty Eray runs the same 1/4 mile as a bmw m5 cs (10.6), the z06 is actually slower yet you say any bmw doesn’t match up? The m5cs is a four door family car too! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 GM cars at a joke compared to European cars on the track (name your vette and I show you a faster production euro car). Stick with corvette price point, you peasant
@FirearmTutorials
@FirearmTutorials 11 ай бұрын
Great stuff!
@AP-go1ks
@AP-go1ks 11 ай бұрын
What is the 1/4 mile time for M4 in AWD?
@AlexFlores-cr6hb
@AlexFlores-cr6hb 11 ай бұрын
In the 8s. Stock in the 10s
@AP-go1ks
@AP-go1ks 11 ай бұрын
Stock is usually 11.0 seconds@@AlexFlores-cr6hb
@damnnnn9972
@damnnnn9972 7 ай бұрын
@@AlexFlores-cr6hb what do you mean 8 seconds than proceed to say stock in the 10s boss?
@freedomfirst5420
@freedomfirst5420 11 ай бұрын
The AWD mode helps alot, as well.
@user-yi9hz3or2t
@user-yi9hz3or2t 11 ай бұрын
Better transmission also helps
@koolKdog1
@koolKdog1 11 ай бұрын
Without even fully watching this yet I’m sure Sam was in the losing car 😂
@erich1308
@erich1308 11 ай бұрын
"Average Joe's " love to hate on BMW 🤣
@S8ER
@S8ER 11 ай бұрын
Define "average joe"? are you trying to say poor?
@finwaydiddy1977
@finwaydiddy1977 10 ай бұрын
I have been saying it since the beginning, the base C8 should have came with 520-530hp stock out the door. The 495hp is a joke in modern cars and the small block definitely can crank out that type of power with no problem.
@hustleman76
@hustleman76 11 ай бұрын
Yeah!!! The M4 has 503hp.....to the wheels!!!
@user-yi9hz3or2t
@user-yi9hz3or2t 11 ай бұрын
Who cares? Lol
@hustleman76
@hustleman76 11 ай бұрын
@@user-yi9hz3or2t BMW cares!!!
@RoadOdyssey
@RoadOdyssey 11 ай бұрын
Doesnt sound like the c8 was being pushed. My c8 sounded more thunderous when pushed hard. Also, was the c8 a couple or convert? Launch of c8 was not good at all. Need to see the tach and speedo too. Helps remove bias....
@G82Watts
@G82Watts 6 ай бұрын
Dude ur so deep in denial I feel sorry for u 🙏 m4 xdrive obliterated ur lil poor mans ferrari
@NoName-b5k1e
@NoName-b5k1e 11 ай бұрын
Well done for n/a engine, good job Vette!
@nhlanhlamagagula7467
@nhlanhlamagagula7467 11 ай бұрын
Disappointed with C8 I expected more
@MikeyG003
@MikeyG003 11 ай бұрын
It’s the base model sting ray, not a z06. Idk what you were expecting 😂
@MikeyG003
@MikeyG003 11 ай бұрын
@@nhlanhlamagagula7467.
@nhlanhlamagagula7467
@nhlanhlamagagula7467 11 ай бұрын
@@MikeyG003 was expecting it to outperform the m3...M3 is family saloon with back seats while c8 is a sport car..
@MikeyG003
@MikeyG003 11 ай бұрын
@@nhlanhlamagagula7467you must not be familiar with that an m3 can do then lmao. Results as expected for anyone that knows cars
@AlexMartinez-uq2ye
@AlexMartinez-uq2ye 9 ай бұрын
GM finally put a somewhat nice interior on a corvette but forgot to improve performance.
@Asiansxsymbol
@Asiansxsymbol 11 ай бұрын
I didn't expect the Vette to lose.
@user-yi9hz3or2t
@user-yi9hz3or2t 11 ай бұрын
Its overrated no idea why ppl idolize this car lol
@galil12346
@galil12346 11 ай бұрын
Them BMWs underrated
@MrTroytroy
@MrTroytroy 11 ай бұрын
People are moaning about ‘horsepower’ in the BMW. They should be talking bout it makes a crap load of torque more than the C8 through the rev range (as advertised by BMW…)
@charlesmatthews3301
@charlesmatthews3301 11 ай бұрын
Great racing.
@Marius26-73
@Marius26-73 11 ай бұрын
There is no shock that the Bimmer beat the h... out of the Vette!
@onYTsince2008
@onYTsince2008 11 ай бұрын
The V6 totally *ate* the V8 ALL the times 🤣🤣. It was just too funny to see how efficient turbos can be. Gotta love efficiency.
@Luke-cb3ly
@Luke-cb3ly 11 ай бұрын
V6???? Lmfao
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 11 ай бұрын
Inline6*
@chrism869
@chrism869 11 ай бұрын
I don't think the c8 launched as well as it should have but still a pretty close race
@bobbyspanino6874
@bobbyspanino6874 11 ай бұрын
11.3 is about as good as you can get on a C8.
@chrism869
@chrism869 11 ай бұрын
@bobbyspanino6874 ok but I feel like it could have gotten a better 0 to 60, I've seen 2.7 2.6 from the c8 stingray
@bobbyspanino6874
@bobbyspanino6874 11 ай бұрын
@@chrism869 possibly so if equipped with the Z51 package. C8 in the video is a regular C8
@N0neofyourbusiness.
@N0neofyourbusiness. 11 ай бұрын
@@bobbyspanino6874actually no multiple drivers have managed 10.9 stock with a c8 so it does have a little more room. But either way the m4 is sandbagging in horsepower numbers, everyone knows when you dyno an m4 it actually makes more power than bmw claims, the real crank hp numbers is around 600hp range do. This m4 will not stand a chance against the e ray corvette.
@SSH939
@SSH939 11 ай бұрын
​@@N0neofyourbusiness.C8s will not do 10.8-10.9 stock wtf are you smoking?
@AlexFlores-cr6hb
@AlexFlores-cr6hb 11 ай бұрын
S58 motor is just ridiculous 🔥
@bigneutron77
@bigneutron77 11 ай бұрын
I love putting the gap on them c8 in my Supra, especially when I know almost all of them paid 30k more than I did for their car.
@lelandbailey8133
@lelandbailey8133 9 ай бұрын
But now it needs to be done with the 2023 C8. Unstoppable
@G82Watts
@G82Watts 6 ай бұрын
The 2023 c8 would have the same exact result. It's not faster then a xdrive m3 or m4. Get real dude. Only the 160k zo6 is faster
@magnificent10304
@magnificent10304 11 ай бұрын
Them turbos suckin through them turtle nostrils show ya what it do up top, nice Vette but i would take the last year model vette with a manual an normal a v8 for the more aggressive sound
@djsonfire0001
@djsonfire0001 11 ай бұрын
Can we do the same race with atop shelf Dodge product?😀
@captainchris5858
@captainchris5858 11 ай бұрын
Bet that wouldn’t happen with a c8 zo6. Seems. Unfair souped up bimmer against base c8
@LVRaptorR717
@LVRaptorR717 9 ай бұрын
C8Z has horrible torque with the flat plane crank engine. These turbocharged straight 6 make crazy torque. Torque wins races period especially if you can plant it to the ground with Xdrive and for the price of a new Z you can get a much better performing car than a C8Z. the M3 and M4 with downpipes and exhaust and other supporting mods will put down 6 to 700 to the wheels AWD hell you can even tune the new Z yet very disappointing GM could have done a lot better. The C8ZR1 will be the the car to set the bar against if it has the good that are floating around.
@keithjackson4985
@keithjackson4985 11 ай бұрын
I own a Supra, at least for a short while longer. It will be for sale soon, but as far as performance, it moves. It has HKS exhaust, but even before that, I thought it has to be making more than 400HP!
@shaunmcinnis1960
@shaunmcinnis1960 11 ай бұрын
Funny you say that. I have a 2022 z4 M40i, same platform, and I swear it’s over 400 for sure, more like 425. Very fast car. Just as fast as my C6.
@BoxingWave
@BoxingWave 11 ай бұрын
Not shocked at all. The Corvette winning would’ve been shocking.
@dustingre8
@dustingre8 11 ай бұрын
Why didn’t you post your xdrive quarter mile run?
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 11 ай бұрын
Machine didn’t record
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 11 ай бұрын
One time i think it was 2.4 for xdrive
@isaimothomoholo1859
@isaimothomoholo1859 7 ай бұрын
Power to weight ratio shows that both cars are equal even after dynamometer test.
@red_j_ruff_wood6384
@red_j_ruff_wood6384 5 ай бұрын
Americans measure power at the crank. Germans measure power at the wheels.
@efthimios
@efthimios 11 ай бұрын
Did NOT expect that 😮😮😮
@jamess4535
@jamess4535 8 ай бұрын
BMW M4 manual is all you need. Forget the slushbox.
@nhlanhlamagagula7467
@nhlanhlamagagula7467 11 ай бұрын
Great review Sam...but please provide stats we been begging for stats on all races...still not today
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 11 ай бұрын
We don’t have the machines for roll races
@volvoteam4426
@volvoteam4426 11 ай бұрын
​@@SamCarLegion11.3 corvett 1\4 mile 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣.. 12.3 maybe.???
@Pigpenthemagnificent
@Pigpenthemagnificent 2 ай бұрын
Expected with similar HP and torque. I saw one race on KZbin with a M4 with 503 HP vs Ford Mustang GT500 with 760 HP! They were wondering why the M4 lost?
@12DreamsFull
@12DreamsFull 3 ай бұрын
This video proves nuthin' because the driver plays a huge part in who the winner is going to be. I own a bmw but I am not crazy enough to believe it will outrun a corvette.
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 3 ай бұрын
You have a BMW 330i?
@12DreamsFull
@12DreamsFull 3 ай бұрын
@@SamCarLegion No, the 335i turbo. I love it but I greatly love and respect the corvette even more. I've driven both but only own the bmw.
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 3 ай бұрын
That car with a small tune will smoke a corvette
@12DreamsFull
@12DreamsFull 3 ай бұрын
@@SamCarLegion A small tune...excuse my ignorance but what is a small tune? My car stays tuned up.
@ItsJustMeMcKee
@ItsJustMeMcKee 11 ай бұрын
I have an M4 and although I've never raced a Corvette, I'm not sure how the M4 would do against a Z06. I'm guessing not near as well lol. Maybe an M4 with a tune could beat the Z06 but not a stock M4.
@dennistv598
@dennistv598 11 ай бұрын
The bmw m4 with a downpipe and tune will run laps around the Z06, find a good tuner
@kawailauaelani
@kawailauaelani 11 ай бұрын
Great race
@coreyegan6751
@coreyegan6751 11 ай бұрын
The Alibaba Lambo. Can't hold a candle against zee German studs!
@wheelwrightpl9429
@wheelwrightpl9429 11 ай бұрын
I would like to see M2 vs Corvette, because in some tests M2 is not far off M3/M4
@frankjohnson3868
@frankjohnson3868 11 ай бұрын
The person driving the C8 is losing on purpose, Horrible shifts, lol. Why even waste your time posting this
@G82Watts
@G82Watts 10 ай бұрын
People really saying do the zo6 likes its not a 160k car with dealership markups 😂😂 these 2 are the same relative price. The m4 gives u the bang for the buck and has wayyy better luxury and tech. The fact even in RWD mode it was beating the C8 in this vid 😂😂
@wheelwrightpl9429
@wheelwrightpl9429 11 ай бұрын
The BMW coolaid drinker probably chipped his car..
@hpickettz34
@hpickettz34 11 ай бұрын
Car and driver had the same results
@carguy...
@carguy... 11 ай бұрын
And if most people don't understand, with a basic tune using your cellphone , the bmw can go over 600rwhp easily unlike any other car which is just crazy.
@N0neofyourbusiness.
@N0neofyourbusiness. 11 ай бұрын
You’re clearly not a car guy. Mclaren 720s, 765lt, and many more can make crazy power with just downpipes and a tune. Bmws are slow. When have you seen a 2000whp+ bmw build? Never. Corvettes have higher build potential, I can show you a c7 z06 making over 5k to the wheels running 5’s. And there are multiple corvettes on the streets over 2000whp+
@carguy...
@carguy... 11 ай бұрын
@@N0neofyourbusiness. bro relax, I'm talking about basic mods, Downpipe and tune pushing almost 700rwhp, not talking maxed out builds. Take a breath and relax big boy......
@refillz5281
@refillz5281 11 ай бұрын
​@N0neofyourbusiness. Not with factory engines they arent 😂.
@carguy...
@carguy... 11 ай бұрын
@@refillz5281 you have ZERO knowledge buddy, look up PLENTY of stock engine MK5 supras with top mount turbo on E50 pushing just over 900rwhp. You know NOTHING about what you're talking about. Just stop please.
@cysawyer4829
@cysawyer4829 7 ай бұрын
2wd race is BS. The xDrive M4 isn't meant to race in 2wd. It doesn't have any launch control in that mode and only uses a basic traction control. If you want to run a 2wd against the Vette, use a 2wd M4. It at least have the ability to put the power down and had launch control.
@Crysisplaya
@Crysisplaya Ай бұрын
That Beamer is fast but I’d still take the C8
@eclipse1281
@eclipse1281 10 ай бұрын
Like in all other video, top of the line against regular c8, bring z06 or E-Ray
@G82Watts
@G82Watts 10 ай бұрын
U serious? This isn't top of the line. A m5 or m8 is. Also these are the same price. A z06 with dealership markups are going for 160k same with the eRay
@taliyy_
@taliyy_ 11 ай бұрын
So what was the time of the m4 in Xdrive??
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