2017 BMW M4 CS: Is the new 454bhp CS worth its £90k price tag? | Autocar

[@tiagobernardo6807]

the little exterior details make it look 3 times cooler, and the color is awesome

[@bonofrancou2]

That's the most beautiful M4 I have seen!

[@iliovecaRS]

Tiago Bernardo not worth 30k Lol

[@drdj69]

4 years later, M4 is still the king. beautiful car.

[@vernonprice5986]

King of what? It gets beaten by almost literally everything else in its class.

[@drdj69]

everything else? go watch how awful the new RS5 is. go watch the problems with the Guilia , literally stops while driving. c63s is good, lovely engine n sound , but its 300kgs heavier and steering is numb. to answer your question M4 is king on track and a great everyday as well.

[@vernonprice5986]

+drdj69 - "go watch the problems with the Guilia" You clearly don't understand what "get beaten" means. The Giulia easily outperforms the M4 REGARDLESS of whatever problems you think it has, This is an established fact and it's not up for debate. The C63s is also faster than the M4, and the Cadillac ATS-V beats the M4 every time they're put head to head against each other. "to answer your question M4 is king on track and a great everyday as well." Except it isn't, as proven by recorded lap times, and it's not as good "everyday" as most of the other cars in its class either.

[@MidhunS]

Vernon Price He even spelt 'Giulia' wrong.

[@carsdailypage7346]

Vernon Price c63s faster than the m4 on the track? Lol

[@chrischerry1582]

This is the best m4 review I’ve seen, very informative and unbiased and told me exactly what I wanted to know

[@rare6499]

Crazy money when you look at what you get over the Competition. Good car no doubt, but honestly I think this just highlights how disappointing the stock M4 is. The stock M4 should be a much better car...

[@lucarossi8913]

Josh Charlie yea they made so many different versions of the m4 and m3 lol proves that the regular one isn't that good , im a huge bmw fan, my favourite brand i have an x6m but the m3 n m4 are disappointing

[@stefanfreestylez]

When the m4 came out nobody bitched a dam thing about it. Now these "experts" saying o the original was crap comp is soooo much better. The avg m4 owmer wont track it and wont push it to its limit even if they do track it. That accounts for like 1% of buyers that actually will try and do that. The car is id say a lil dissapointing with steering feel(avg person wontnotice it) and the sound is prr crappy.

[@michaelxie4563]

San Marino blue❤️

[@DoctaM3]

Such a great review--honest, comprehensive. KUDOS guys!

[@dennismorales163]

My 2015 M4 cost me around 54,336 (in British Pound Currency) with 425HP, so to me is way too much the difference between the two. I rather step-up mine to about the same 454HP, which will require less money in doing so. If I had that kind of money to spend it on a car, I would probably get something way much better than an M4 CS...

[@alexmartinez280]

The peak power bump is a small part of the whole package. It was a package that really cured all of the short comings of the standard car. I do agree that in a better world with time to properly engineer and develops the car it should have be closer to this from the gate than the version that was offered.

[@tp7278]

This presenter is great

[@lojanenicholls]

See his older videos at EVO

[@soulfeed5740]

He should be on Drivetribe!

[@tomtom255]

Dan is solid, he needs a thesaurus so he can come up with an adverb other than "really".

[@kurt2rsenjazz]

and 'mega'

[@walidahmed4193]

Nah he uses 'really' too many times. It's so annoying

[@ob4485]

for those who are freaking out about the 90k msrp, think about the future status of this CS and its resale value... food for thought

[@TheGetawayer]

Great to see a new review from you Dan!

[@hench_wrench_repairs]

5 years later where you can get one for 50k. Yes. Yes it is worth it. Best car ever created

[@gyallis4life617]

Faxxx😂😂😂

[@MumenRider78]

Trying to decide between an f82 m4 cs, f87 m2 cs and an f80 m3 cs around the 50k mark. Need to test drive them all.

[@hareth4705]

@@MumenRider78for me it's m4, just look how beautiful it is.

[@MumenRider78]

@@hareth4705 Yeah, I think I'm going to end up with the m4. Not many f80 m3 cs or m2 cs available for sale within the BMW used and approved network in the UK.

[@_7.8.6]

The price over the standard is unjustifiable The CS is how the M cars should be to begin with. The brand is becoming too diluted.

[@drdj69]

deep shit you need to come up with your own comment.

[@alexmartinez280]

The car as a whole is way better and definitely worth the price hike to those that can afford it. Second hand will be the time to buy in 3 yrs after new

[@rogermoore2365]

It's worth the money

[@DonLee1980]

The M4 should have been as good as the CS is to begin with. How much better could this $90k CS be than the M4? well that just says how much BMW slacked off to begin with.

[@rare6499]

Honfy Lam absolutely agree

[@VaunShiz]

Honfy Lam yea the base M4 is garbage , you don't get the competition pack or better , you've wasted your money

[@AlexMacho765]

Here in the states the price difference between an m4 and a comp pack one is so small you'd be a moron to buy a normal m4. I've seen more comp pack m4s going for less than the normal m4 because of the ridiculous options. Really surprised they didn't discontinue the normal model

[@drdj69]

bro normal m4 is really good. u need to calm the fk down. this is just better. remember its been 4 years since its launch and its still keeping up with the amgs and rs . stfup

[@RB-xv4si]

Totally agree. I appreciate how good the CS is, but why does it take so many iterations of the same model to get it right?

[@guillaume6254]

The look of the m4 cs in insane

[@Bmwbroo]

I’d say you can’t go wrong with a second hand 2017+ m4 competition

[@Chris-jt4ux]

better than the M4C tbh, hands down.

[@grahamcardwell5947]

Nice work dan good to see you back on the videos but £95k for M4 with ceramics err no ta

[@jim.e.baldwin]

My goodness, a proper review. Not a watered down Clarkson review telling us how "the car makes me feel". Look forward to see your next one. Cheers.

[@paulgregroy1986]

OMG! You're so professional you're better than 5th gear you're better than Top Gear on the TV. Amazing BMW amazing video

[@chawenhalo0089]

Very good review. Good to see a car that does what it says on the tin: Clubsport, slightly compromised every day, fantastic B road blaster and far better on the odd track day.

[@SuperSrutt]

when did you join autocar?

[@jazzjohnson6]

quite possibly the most desirable drivers car on the market

[@dor1tomcswagger69]

damn it's pricey but I love that colour

[@alewis276]

The first person who has ever complained about a BMW steering wheel.....

[@M3Conv]

I don't really get it, the competition pack is only £3K more than a standard M4, but the CS is £30K extra? Anyway, who cares as i pick up my CP in two weeks. I bet BMW don't sell many standard M4's these days as the CP is noticeably faster, better handling and more comfortable

[@DubC]

M3Conv lmao more comfortable? You’re definitely mistaken there, even though it’s not unbearable the ride is noticeably harder in the competition pack!!

[@javidrana3720]

I have a 2019 cp and traded in my rs5. Great in dry but rs5 so much better in all other conditions. Would I revert to rs5, no way, m4cp so much more fun even if it can be a bit lazry!

[@heamees4822]

Dan Prosser also here, is EVO officially dead?

[@andrewsmith410]

Well Harry got a garage most of evo member have gone to drive tribe so yeah Orr .... drive tribe is the new evo ??

[@stubones]

Andrew Smith EVO is primarily a magazine (from Dennis Publishing). The KZbin channel is just a bit on the side. Drivetribe is not a replacement for EVO.

[@fightingfenix4601]

Evo is dead and I am very sad about that.

[@jeebus2121]

When Bovington and Catchpole went to Drivetribe that basically left one main video presenter: Dickie Meaden. So the drop in their output is pretty understandable.

[@1seipai]

jeebus2121 Evo is still going with people like Dan Prosser. Steve Sutcliffe is contributing! 😮

[@ajisuleiman1484]

The most beautiful BMW of all time, the best design. No other BMW is prettier than the F82 M4

[@Neil2022]

9:55, nowhere in the door cards to put your wallet? You wouldn't need a wallet after spending that much on an m4.

[@nicksokolis6343]

I think the back lights are OLEDs not LEDs. Nice review.

[@dodgydodds]

Good presenter. did you poach him off the EVO channel full time?

[@anthonydayspring9923]

Great presenting....but is there a touch of Harris in his delivery?

[@lakmalantony8505]

Solid review

[@christianb.4385]

Dan Prosser a good journalist. Thank you man.

[@shoshKid]

is there a comparison video of an M4 cs vs C63s ?

[@footerotica]

My gf thought I was watching porn at night but little did she know I was just drooling over the M4 CS. What a beautiful piece of machinery.

[@JeffDell]

I really have to say that I really really think that this is a really really good review, really.

[@MyRealName]

Great to see Dan in action again. Can't wait for more!

[@mexistratman1]

Really happy to see a review of a car on a road! Sick of seeing track driving all the time.

[@jw6188]

Nobody can ever get tired of beating that "it doesn't sound like an E92 V8" dead horse.

[@warrenw8705]

Nor should they. The S65 was epic.

[@youssefelmalty]

Awesome Vlog - Clear and Crisp information - Thank you so much!

[@Strengthoftenmen]

Not worth it. Get a comp pack M4 add the MPE and the MPHAS or any exhaust and suspension set up of your choice and you've got a more practical and equally as compliant M4 for 30k less!

[@muzman777]

Ecu flash, set of OHlins and get it set up properly. Amazing.

[@s4ms0n1t3]

Strengthoftenmen it's true, bmw seem to have far too many cars in their line-up now. this cs is just another in-house tune up. which like you said, you can probably do for alot cheaper with aftermarket parts which do as good of a job?

[@alexmartinez280]

Modding will only add loss of value and this CS will always be worth more on the market, especially over a modded car no matter the parts.

[@RB-xv4si]

Alex Martinez that’s not necessarily true. As long as you keep the mods tasteful and with only OEM parts, should keep value the same or increase a little (if you’re selling to another enthusiast). I bought a 2016 M3 Comp and changed the 666M wheels on it to the lighter weight 763M wheels you get on these CS’s. One guy even came up to me in a parking lot thinking mine was a CS for a second lmao.

[@Simon-jd3fz]

A very nice video, it would also be better if there're track tests

[@eddieconroy212]

£30k over the base M4? No way!

[@jmmoters1851]

in korea bmw m4 cs price over 120K. considering all of about this car,it's worth. i was so surprised cheaper than my country.. if i was lived in your country,i would bought m4 right away.

[@xantilyst]

Stop janking about the comfort, its a sportscar, this is where BMW is known for

[@hammmodjabeer7278]

one of the best sports car

[@Naseefaek]

very good review.. love it

[@harrisonkay575]

In Australia our plates are all nice metals. So many choices would hate to have plastic.

[@oceanthirteen1628]

I just wanted the car for the colour and the wheels 😂😂😂😂😂

[@alexanderlinton9578]

Great review. I have competition package which is uncomfortable enough for a daily. This seems a bit too much. The lightweight doors seem gimmicky and not practical.

[@abdulkhan2694]

Not worth it for me im just going to lose 35kg in weight and get a re map on a normal m4 job done

[@larstofastrud1788]

Abdul Khan, I owned a 2015 M4 and just upgraded to an M3 CS, and it feels like a completely different car. It's not just 35 kg and a few more hp.

[@alexmartinez280]

Lars Tofastrud BINGO! People really believe the only measure of a car is peak HP when it is not nearly the most important. The CS is a different car and resale will always show this as these cars will hold value well compared to the standard. It is crappy considering the M4 is an expensive car stock and there should be no poop versions of an M car offered. M should be the top and the more developed cars later on should just become the EVO versions offered in the place of the standard, NOT along side. Just my opinion though.

[@nagdeep299]

when will you shift up to sport/sport+ mode ??

[@Das_Rami]

... was it fun when you have an M3 and then M3 CSL and that was IT!!!

[@mubblemann]

So now we have the M4, M4 Competition, M4 GTS, M4 CS and M4 DTM.

[@paolasanchezd]

Dan you started the video asking whether this is the best M4 for the money and ended with this is the M4 to buy....but you left out if it was a better bargain than the M4 competition.....so what's your verdict on that?

[@DevjyotDhanjal]

Dan was very Chris Harris like in this 🙌🏽

[@SiyxmTTS]

The CS is a Frankenstein, made of other bits from the other cars in the same line

[@waitwuttt]

M4 competition package is the perfect one. also comes in a manual

[@delmonte_mtl1632]

Nice to see you again Dan , super review again 👍🏻 , your the man :-)

[@PatrickEVRAable]

will there be a manual cs?? This could be the best looking M car since E46 CSL maybe?

[@PatrickEVRAable]

When did Dan Prosser leave Evo?? Evo has lost everyone, shame it used to be my fave channel

[@thefastlifestyle]

Used M3 for 45k, Stage 1/2 remap. Exhaust and some aero and it'll be just as good.

[@ALMX5DP]

RelaxB go further. Used e92 330 for $15k, and the rest on go fast bits. Even further still, used e36 M3 for $7k and have gobs leftover. See the issue?

[@adamperkins3125]

Brilliant review! Well done chap 👍🏻

[@future62]

For 89K it has to be at least as good as a 991 C2S with the PDK and PASM.... so no, no way in hell can it ever justify that price tag. Only way to make an M4 worth that much would be to give the 4.4 V8 from the old GTS an encore (with properly specced bearings)

[@burritomaker69]

future62 The bearings of the s65B44 were fine. In fact that was pretty much a perfect engine. It was only the s54 that had a bearing issue and even then it was caused by a manufacturer issue not design. It was only present in the first gen e46 and for only 3000ish cars.

[@gazman9468]

S65 bearings were most certainly not fine - there are many documented failures!

[@augustortiz]

Gazman its a very very overhyped issue. Less than 2% of the total production have suffered from this, and its mostly due to Owner incompetence.

[@dennygamble4520]

I think this car is better than a 991 C2S if you want a track car and something you can haul young kids in. C2S just doesn’t have a big enough bag seat. I had a C4S and then GT-R and now a regular M4. This will be my next car.

[@armandoluis4435]

i think the outside gopro is amazing

[@Alexr-uf3zn]

Think I'd rather buy a standard m4 competition package and then buy the new rs focus for the wet days keep the m4 for dey miles and the all wheel drive on the focus be handy on wet roads

[@NoName-zi9qs]

£90k and you mash down on the bonnet like that?! Nutter!

[@AwesomeBob]

Seems like the CS is meant to be a weekend driver's car; not a DD.

[@Urban_atelierbyabe]

You're right on the money, weekend track days, the regular m3/m4 is the daily.

[@RB-xv4si]

35 kg lighter than a standard M4? In a R&T article, Jason Camissa noted that it was only about 9 kg lighter.

[@g7sky]

is meant for race track not long journeys

[@hajimuhammadfaizhajikudil2115]

my new favourite presenter

[@7daysCroissant]

blue velvet color first was used with e39 bmw

[@MrKal321]

It should be compared to the competition pack not the base car, at which point you'd realise it's a lot more money for 10bhp/34lbft/35kg saving.

[@ismaeli9995]

Yes, definitely YES. What a beauty!

[@petemorbius3936]

safe the money & get the regular m4 facelift (competition pack)

[@MA-xo8cf]

whats the difference between v6 and inline 6 cyl?

[@adityajethi7250]

That car looks so wild and desirable. ...man i want one

[@67tomcat]

A manual transmission would give more involvement, but what a beautiful car.

[@leonhenry4861]

Is it worth £90k, no it isn't wait 2 years and snap it up for £55k. 2 years later: is it worth £55k, yes it is.

[@SuryaJR11]

Mahn it's so sick in look uff🤤🪄❤️🔥👀💝💝💝💝 these days we will never get this much aggressive looking car 🪄❤️

[@miketucker592]

Excellent assessment and believable

[@CruiserZone]

Did BMW do a CS e92 or was just the e46 and this?

[@DaveBibbs]

When are you guys reviewing the new RS5?

[@riemannx1]

BMW was first in my favourite list among the germans, several years ago but now it's 3rd. No progress at all, with a few hp up and extremely high price. I would rather take the new rs5 with same performance, a very cool interior/exterior and £60k+.

[@saxophone12player]

What color is that ?

[@danibiker8379]

Always cool to have a special edition M car but in that case... i think its better to get standard M4 and then tune it with Hamann or G-power. Correct me if im wrong but... if bonnet is CF you cant bend it like that right? Look like aluminium to.me... t

[@lucozade8373]

Why do they keep adding small changes to the 3 and 4 series and slapping an extra £20k...

[@powerofpinesol8002]

Because it’s bmw

[@jamiep61]

You should be the Head Of Video at Autocar as you have taken over from Matt Prior. Also plenty more New Models to Video Review this year Including Hot Hacthes, Sports Cars and Supercars

[@thelegendthatismatt]

Great presenter this guy

[@petercavellini3232]

What is it with this more power ?, you can't use all of it all of the time,if you do you'll get your collar felt pretty quick by the Rozzers!

[@1seipai]

£90k? No way. Get a 997.2 Gt3!

[@ALMX5DP]

GT3 starts over £20k more.

[@1seipai]

Alan Bowers Yes, you're quite right. Still better stretch to pay the extra or borrow more.

[@MyRealName]

And how are you going to service it? It costs a fortune to service the gt3. Not to mention the fuel consumption and the fact that the new car comes with warranty.

[@gazman9468]

Fuel consumption won't be drastically different in the M4 considering the official figures are BS. Noone in their right mind would by a GT3 without Porsche warranty. Servicing certainly more than BMW but not by as much as you'd think. Bit of a silly comparison given the price difference but in a couple years time the BMW will have plummeted in value compared to the GT3. I'd take a Carrera S over the M4.

[@Kaisuke971]

A 997.2 GT3 ? No way ! Save your money and go for an E92 M3, strip it out and put some good suspension and brakes... We could go on forever, stop comparing used and new cars. If you buy this you obviously are not shopping for a used car wtf...

why do journalists make nonsense comments?..who wants comfort in a sport car? ..you buy a sport car for the thrills you get an a roll coaster rides (G FORCES)...No Comfort is wanted. If you have a place to rest your arms while driving, I suggest you buy a GT car...

[@leonz631]

1. the m4 cs costs 116.000 ground price 2. It has 460HP

[@arctic_frost1]

This is my dream car, one day I will get this car and my life will be complete haha

[@hax0r117]

I'm a BMW fanboi, but honestly, BMW is out to lunch if they think this car is worth that much money... This brand is going downhill lol

[@malcolmc5964]

How important is and what is the "ULTIMATE" driving experience? Most people need to consider cost, if you don't you would not buy a BMW M4!(720S,488GTB,CHIRON!!!) Nice car, I would like one but would buy a 911 instead at that price!

[@rayhuckle]

Imagine buying an expensive exclusive car and closing your doors with a string 😂

[@dalilaburgos3289]

Lap times please. I'd like to see how fast it is compared to the other iterations.

[@Brunoperes_88]

Dalila Burgos On Nürburgring he did 7:39m

[@talalaldossary2656]

Good presentation 👏

[@carrara_bit8649]

I love the oled !!!

[@baitse7676]

but can he touch the pedals?