BMW R 1300 GS | Is It Really ALL That??

I've spent the last month riding and enjoying the new BMW R 1300 GS and I'm ready to let you know what I think of it! Does it really warrant all the hype?
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[@vtwin6683]

So glad I stopped chasing the new models and went back to basic motorcycling, much more rewarding.

[@MrWolf2212]

What bike you have now ?? These modern bikes are insane. They come with so many riding assists and are also getting more and more expensive.

[@vtwin6683]

@@MrWolf2212 The wife and I have a couple of CB500's, a 20 year old Varadero for touring and a 954 Blade for track days, all for less money than a new ADV bike.

[@DanTube2010]

@@vtwin6683 The Honda 500s are rock solid bikes.

[@martyndunn1905]

Modern bikes are getting just like new cars, so bloody expensive. I think all the tech is taking the fun and skill out of motorcycle riding, and I don't think I would trust a bike to brake for me. I will stick with my 24 yr old 1200 bandit.

[@LambChopRides]

Yeah I can see the attraction 👍

[@asmith8092]

As a 1250 owner, like the new updates, but I am learning to be content with what I have. If I had throw away money....maybe. All this tech and all I want to do is simply ride. Unless BMW offers a heck of a great promotion....there is no rush. Plus, this is the first Gen for this bike as it is all new.

[@kevincraig8257]

exactly

[@dignoh2144]

As a 1200 owner, me too 😅

[@jays9211]

If I owned a 1250 I wouldn’t trade up but I don’t so it’ll be an R13GS for me😂

[@MH-xd2nd]

Yes, yes, it’s faster, more tech, comfortable and so on but you haven’t addressed the most important question: can you use it to pick up a turkey from Asda? 😂

[@simonclare-fu7sx]

as long as the turkey is wearing a helmet it's legal

[@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne]

Which is probably about as much as 90+% of them will ever be used for...

[@_Archambaud]

You can pick up a pig from Basildon,but it's not recommended

[@Mikethebike721]

What about one from the Foreign Office?😊

[@happygilmorides7353]

She know you call her that!?

[@ianwilliams4832]

Great review chopsy. Keep them coming👍👍

[@CrouchyOnBikes]

Great review Chops. Seriously considering this as my next bike. Will be very interested to see your review of the Tracer+ as well. Great to meet you again at BBB the other night (bloke that said hello when you and Womble were in the Costa queue after the show!)

[@LambChopRides]

Was nice to meet you Sean 🤝 was a good night 👍

[@shadowred1980]

Great review. Looking forward to the vs 1250 with Gregg. :)

[@dukie1616]

While ktm’s bottom of the barrel motorcycles come with illuminated switchgear, unbelievable BMW! That said it’s still an amazing motorcycle. Thanks Chops, always enjoy your videos👏

[@stephenpotts8170]

At the age of 55 I brought my first GS, at the age of 66 years old I'm now on my third GS, currently owning from new a 2021 GS 1250 ADV TE triple black, I can't wait for the adventure later this year, and will most likely get the cheque book out again. For me only two real disappointments with the new bike is the integration of the taillamp functions onto the indicators, I think that's borderline dangerous, and the lack of illuminated switchgear. But at the age of 55 when you skeleton starts screaming you will buy an adventure bike not saying a GS, but you know you are going to do it, ha-ha. Thank you really enjoyed you being a hooligan...

[@martyn_g]

Lack of illuminated switchgear is the only thing that irritates me on my 1250gs Adventure

[@greenrush4313]

Get a Pan america

[@hangpilot1200]

I put a Denali B6 tail light and Hexcan CanBus on my 1300. In for a penny... ;-)

[@SolivG]

Super review as always Chops!

[@theR0ck]

Just bought one today, will be delivered Friday, same set up as yours and will ride it like I stole it 😁

[@steveparish9210]

The center stand assist was impressive. Beautiful bike

[@n22pdf]

You need one Chops.. I loved mine.. this new one is awesome I think BMW have done a great job with the updates.. Pete

[@SouthWest-jj8yu]

Nice review, watched a video yesterday from Bennett’s Bike Social testing the GS-911. Anyway he was able to switch on the sports screen using the GS 911 functions, seemingly already there just not active on all bikes.

[@talkingrock7011]

Interesting bike Chop’s for sure , but you’re video skills was outstanding keep up the great work

[@LambChopRides]

I appreciate that! 👍👍

[@eriklarsson3528]

Great review as always! My local bmw dealer told me that the akra slipon is actually a little bit heavier than stock pipe😁 great bike and fit and finish are mega! Really like the Trophy colors.

[@LambChopRides]

Oh really haha that's unbelievable Erik 😄 Yeah trophy colours are good saw one yesterday. Not sure about white subframe though

[@eriklarsson3528]

@@LambChopRidesthey also sell ktm so went for a 2023 1290super adventure s instead, powerparts heated seat and grip,arrow slipon, techpack. Really want ur opinion/comparison to the ktm sas, multi v4 vs 1300gs

[@ninja12lawbreaker]

Lovely looking bike, nice colour too, I would love to have one but so far the only thing I want next after my black SDR is a Triumph Rocket III. I thought your chanell has been a bit quiet recently, I bet you've put 5000 miles on that GS. Keep up the great work

[@LambChopRides]

Yeah Rocket III is rather special can't say I blame you there! 👍

[@royhuxley8903]

Sold my R1250GS after two years and gone back to proper motorcycling pleasure without all that distracting tech. and heavy weight. For every day to day use off the motorway and A roads a mid size bike is much more user friendly. Old school classic and retro bikes are much more fun to live with at a fraction of the cost.

[@Pyrrho_]

Disagree. I'm 6’4” and I both enjoy and can handle my R1250RS without much effort. The added weight's usefulness for higher speed stability -- esp in crosswinds and poor weather -- is welcome for something I commute on whenever possible.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Really great real world review. Damn. I'm tempted to take a test ride on one of these for the very first time.

[@LambChopRides]

Do it! 👍

[@John-hf1ig]

Excellent review, the best out there.

[@LambChopRides]

Wow, thanks! 👍

[@DaleMt09sp]

Wait for big rock moto in America he’s bought one with his own money he’s normally quite critical on his reviews and highlights a lot others don’t dare due to not getting another loaner 😂

[@AlantinoRossi]

Great vid Chops, looking forward to the Tracer comparison….

[@grenphelps7455]

I think that's an odd comparison, they are not even in the same category...

[@RedJam65]

The screen can be moved up to a higher mounting position as well for even more 'bubble of calm'! Great review 👍

[@timparish172]

I did a 250 mile test ride in December, absolutely loved it. Compared to my 1250 the build quality has taken a step up, it’s just as comfortable, covers distance without effort and it is FUN!

[@GCTO239]

Step up??? With a wobbly plastic rack and a recall due to bikes catching fire? Bar seems to be low. 😂

[@timparish172]

The ‘wobbly’ rack is designed that way to minimise the wind effect on the top case and there’s certainly been no recalls due to bikes catching fire in the uk! There’s been a few recalls for software updates but nothing that any new bike goes through.

[@GCTO239]

@@timparish172 don't get me wrong. Everybody can pick his or her favourite bike. I couldn't care less. But ignorance does not make a recall go away. The starter motor relay of the new GS caused the fires. One bike started to burn while being transported in a van. The journalist had to stop the car and fight the fire. Could have been fatal. The fires occured while the engines were not running. Could have happened inside a garage as well. In Germany 854 R1300 GS were recalled, 84 in Austria. Bikes in the UK were also affected. Ordered bikes in the UK were put on hold. Inform yourself. And you say that every single manufacturer has got the same problem? Wow! 🤣 In more than 25 years of owning Japanese bikes nothing like that has ever happened to me. Yeah, that is stepping up...🤣 Wish you all the best! Stay safe! 🔥

[@timparish172]

@@GCTO239 That’s crap, all recalls have to be logged with both the EU and UK governments, especially if there’s a risk to human life. There is nothing, repeat nothing logged, on either Government’s site. Learn to separate fact from fiction, bikes may have been held while an investigation was carried out, but no recall was required!

[@SP-xd8gs]

@@GCTO239 dude youre everywhere bashing the bike get a life, bike is sick!

[@Andyc1300]

Got one on order. Still think I’m a bit young for a gs at 136 but seems like a nice bike 😂 Great review. Go on buy one 🎉

[@BIGGGESTAL]

136!!!!!!

[@benschofield7565]

Looks great. Admittedly i didn't like the aesthetics of the older models. If i did, no doubt I'd have gotten my knickers twisted over the new headlight too 😂. A bit too techy and a lot too pricey for me, but if I could afford to drop 25k on a new bike, this would definitely be a contender.

[@SPM1966SPM]

Great review - thanks Chopsy.

[@LambChopRides]

No problem 👍

[@quacker998]

Thanks for a great review! I’m sure it’s ‘better’ than the old bike but is it more reliable? Will the rear drive bearings or drive shaft disintegrate? Do you have to disassemble the entire bike to replace the clutch or main seal? Only time will tell - so I’ll leave it a year or two and let the beta testers have a go before parting with the hard earned.

[@keithwaller4545]

Well I am older than you and still will never go down the sheep route and buy a BMW 👍 for me adaptive only works with average speed cameras. If on motorways you end up with car trying to under take or slowly slowing down without realizing. May as well guys drive a car with all the mod cons. For me a motorcycle is an escape for all the tech stuff. 👍

[@GCTO239]

Agreed

[@nickrider5220]

I tend to like similar bikes to your good self, I like sporty bikes. This gs1300 is the first gs that really appeals to me , it looks better, it's more dynamic...it's more fun. Now you're making me seriously think about one Chopsy 😮 👍🏻

[@LambChopRides]

Oh no sorry 🤣👍

[@davidsanchezsalamanca9211]

LOL same here, I actually went and ordered one now

[@JEmmertz]

A nice, balanced and thorough review from someone that knows how to spank a bike, pamper it or just do normal riding. I seriously appreciate that and what you find. 👌 Returning to add: I would much rather take any German bike with buckloads of tech and electronics than most (read all) Italian bikes with basic electronics. I have only owned French cars (yeah, I'm crazy) and I do know that when (not IF) the electronics fail I will be in for a series of ugly surprises: Price to fix, reliability etc, and it will most likely match what I think of Italian bikes. BMW I would trust until the bitter end.

[@LambChopRides]

Very kind of you to say Jonas 👍

[@JEmmertz]

@@LambChopRides No problems, mate! I have a swiss account you can make any "thank you"-deposits to. 🙄 I have a long standing and serious aversion to boxer engines, but apart from that you cannot help but loving what BMW brings to the table. Other manufacturers can't neglect what they do, and we will all benefit from them being at the forefront.

[@BIGGGESTAL]

Ducati all use Bosch electrics. Clearly not a real biker.

[@JEmmertz]

Congratulations for not having spoken to me ever before and still being fully able to know what I am or what I'm not. Gives you such a lot of credibility,@@BIGGGESTAL .

[@boostaholic7116]

Great review Chops, as a fellow 52 year old it is concerning the new GS is some what appealing glad you ended that you wouldn't buy one though.. 🤣🤣

[@johnmacdonald1878]

Lovely bike, nice review, I have a 1200, The cost to upgrade is just to much for me right now. I probably will eventually as theses start to hit the used market.

[@Greggspies]

I could buy one but can't justify the cost which I only ride for 6/7 months

[@jamesfisher1827]

I am a big GS fan, but was really interested to hear your thoughts knowing you are not completely smitten with the 1250GS. Wow, it really is impressive if it’s winning you over. Best I don’t ride one, or I’m going to have to find the money to upgrade. 😂

[@robertk4552]

Thanks for the great review. I have the 2022 40th anniversary 1250 GSA and always looking for another to keep it company. Nothing on the 1300 that screams upgrade from the 1250 though. The 1250 gets the job done quite well with what is has and since I am not a speed junky it isn't an important factor to me. With lighter components is the 1300 as durable as the 1250. The 1250 is my first motorcycle and I have beaten the crap out of it with only minor scratches on the crash guards. I picked up the adventure model for the larger fuel tank so hope they don't reduce that if there ever is a 1300 GSA.

[@sobek]

Id love one. Currently working on getting my full licence...might consider one in a few years when the insurance (hopefully) goes down

[@MichaelPhillips-wf9nc]

I love the green and gold wheels

[@junderwoituk]

Great review as normal Chops, Like you I'm really coming around to liking the GS more and more.... but what about a pillion? Can you get someone on the back to give that perspective?

[@LambChopRides]

Unfortunately not allowed to carry one with the BMW insurance 😫

[@Pyrrho_]

Something to note is Opt 719 billet head covers on the 1250 prevented use of afternarket covers like MachineArtMoto's X-Heads. May introduce similar fitting issues for the 1300.

[@scottdoel5423]

It’s a cracking bike got a gs1200 on a 18plate .As much as I like this wouldn’t mind a gs1250 next

[@brentmcintosh9249]

BMW are really smart. This is super marketing! Let’s hand every KZbinr our flagship and sit back. Now really is it that good???? Talk about pissing in one’s pocket. Choppsy, luv you mate, but fair dinkum…. 🇦🇺

[@LambChopRides]

Well just recorded today a comparison with the 1250, and yes 1250 is also great. But I wouldn't want a 1250, the 1300 brings a more dynamic ride and excitement. Both myself and Greg agreed we could see ourselves on one. He went into it quite skeptical too 👍

[@myagoodbody7942]

The 1400 adventure is going to be interesting

[@stevew4925]

Just can't bring myself to liking this style of bike. Each to their own as they say. .

[@andrus54]

I could not as well until I rented one for a week, took it to mountains, off-road, highway. Now can’t be without one.

[@NS-uw7jx]

Style and cost aside, there’s no judging a GS/A without riding one. There’s a lot it doesn’t do best, e.g. single-track, but all in all, it’s THE bike.

[@Wollestar]

I am 34 and I will most likely buy this bike in about two weeks. Waiting for the bike to be available for a days rent. After multiple herniated disks with surgery and a screwed up shoulder, I guess my body is old enough for this kind of bike 😀. Was looking at KTM and Ducati for a brief second, but I am not paying multiple thousand € per year in insurance. It is mind blowing how much cheaper a GS is to run in comparisson to the other big ADV bikes.

[@stephenbaron5681]

Love your review from an older guy.

[@user-sw2lv3zp6o]

Great bike. Atrractive profile; not sure about the headlight. Nick

[@wenditaylor2354]

Great video! Question about these adaptive cruise systems - what happens if the car in front suddenly brakes hard and you have only one hand on the bars? Lets face it, we all like to rest our throttle hand whilst using cruise control...

[@mojosdad68]

At 55 I’m really eyeing this new 1300. But I’d have to part with my Super Duke EVO, and come up with the equivalent value of the SDR in cash for the GS. Maybe next year.

[@rogereverett9095]

thanks for the review, just confirmed why i wont be buying a 1300, will keep my 1250 and buy another few old school bikes instead !!

[@stephenchapman8344]

Great bike. 👍

[@andy4072]

Slightly understated comment about 1250 paintwork claims there! 😂😂

[@PDCRed]

The screen mounts look like antlers from the riding position!

[@focus550]

They've come full circle with the LC series. They're now back to the weight of the original R1200GS LC of 237KG, although with 20BHP more and lots more toys to go wrong. Probably worth saving 10K and getting one of those instead!

[@GCTO239]

Not even that...the promised weight is marketing nonsense. It is heavier in reality. My test bike already had a weight of 257 kg without crash bars or anything.

[@steviep7706]

I can't quite understand why BMW made the radar so large. I expect under that big surface is a smaller actual unit as my 2014 VW Golf active radar box is only about 4" square. I'd still love to try one though, especially as it seems to have lost that previous clunky tractor gearbox. Just need that lottery win, until then my faithful Tiger 800 will have to soldier on.

[@inspectorclouseau3880]

I'm waiting for the GSA, not riden the standard one yet and I'm a bit worried about the paint rubbing, old Bruce said that too.

[@LambChopRides]

Yeah I'm really keen to how the GSA looks too! 👍

[@grenphelps7455]

Nice review chops, although you still have no idea why people buy them 😅😅 but you're starting to figure it out very slowly 😅

[@NJLinSpain]

As always, an excellent and very timely review.. Thank you. I have now reached the age (67 and a boring old fart) when I am seriously considering switching from a sports bike (I currently have a S1000 RR, previously I had the Ducati V4s) to something a little more sedate and comfortable. I have drawn up a shortlist and the 1300 GS has joined the Motor Guzzi V100 S. It is going to be very difficult to make a final decision.

[@SuperSnallygaster]

You already have a BMW and know how good they are. I sat on the Guzzi, and it felt nice, but I'll always have a GS in the garage.

[@jimmyrottencauli]

I've got the 1250GS .......... I wouldn't have a clue what options to spec on the New 1300GS, keep changing my mind after watching every KZbin review🤷‍♂...... maybe a comparison video between basic v high spec versions

[@hyperthunk]

I'd have the Superduke GT over it, but if one dropped in my lap I'd probably keep it - latest model looks exciting as well as capable. Good job BMW!

[@LambChopRides]

Yeah it's really surprising! 👍

[@mdaydj]

yay more power now we can all ride our Beemers like car drivers !!

[@78Outlaw]

Quandary Chopsy; new GS vs new XR, different vibe but too close for comfort, can’t wait till that motor feeds down to the R and RS 😎

[@LambChopRides]

Yeah need to try that new XR... maybe even the M 😎😎👍

[@benkelly2190]

While the QS on the 1250 wasn’t perfect, it was certainly useable!. It pulls a good wheelie to, if you put it, in dynamic pro and turn the TC down!

[@MiamiJato]

oh yes, my 1250 wheelies no problem..........

[@gzk6nk]

Nuclear! Why do some folk say 'nuculer'? Nice bike, and looks good too. But it's a bit pricey.

[@johnwelbers4248]

😮sounds like you are getting hooked! 😎🏍💨💨💨💨💨👍🏻🇨🇦🍻

[@paulyflyer8154]

Just make sure you get an insurance quote BEFORE you part with any cash and maybe before you even have a test ride. That quote will make your mind up for you. If you live in London, forget it altogether.

[@aibePRO]

Sorry but been watching this video just after the one on which you shown the Tiger 1200 Rally Explorer, and owning a KTM 1290 SAS and comparing the acceleration punch of the 3, the GS is almost like a bicycle 🤣. I almost feel the necessity to drop down the bike and push it to see if that helps!

[@davidlutton4560]

What a fabulous, informative review. For those teetering on the edge of whether or not to make a purchase, I think your review will seal the deal. Without doubt a wonderful machine, even for the hooligan brigade! Thanks again and take care.

[@LambChopRides]

Thanks David 👍

[@Bazza47]

The tank side panels marking up is nothing new. I had the same problem with my 1250GS TE Exclusive which endedbup with the panel getting replaced. The solution was to have some PPF fitted at my expense. It solved the problem but you shouldn't have to do that on a new premium bike.

[@willraven7]

Chops, would u pick this or a Tiger over say a sport tourer like a FJ for long distance??

[@MalcolmStaines]

I'm old school and I was thinking who is in control ,you or the bike ? As you have ridden bikes with degrees of rider aids for a while do you know think they are essential, and do you expect them and do they add to rider experience.

[@brucekendall52]

Break down and buy a GS.Maybe the weather will then improve.,Cheers

[@christyrer9530]

All that tech will ultimately be its downfall five to ten years down the line. Great bike though and great review 👍

[@martyn_g]

Plenty of 1200 and 1250’s getting around without tech issues.

[@DaleMt09sp]

@@martyn_gpeople never mention tech on cars as a issue do they just bikes 😂

[@PovilasPanavas]

@@DaleMt09sp because we usually like to tinker with bikes ourselves and do some maintenance as a pleasure activity. Another issue that electronic failure on a motorcycle somehow costs the same as on the car while in our mind motorcycles supposed to be cheaper and simpler.

[@DaleMt09sp]

@@PovilasPanavas I know modern bikes with tech are a lot reliable than old 4t and 2t bikes a lot safer as well

[@ianhalliwell8604]

Its got loads more tec it's much faster but their is just one problem it all comes with a much higher price ticket. Over 22 grand for a fully specked version is far to rich for me.

[@marksimpson5218]

Yes, I could afford one but I’m reluctant to spend over 20k for a motorcycle. I only use my bikes for 6 months of the year, so it’s a lot of money

[@PhatSimey]

Great looking bike, with some nice features, although the gold wheels and bars don't do it for me at all. Like the billet (fancy advertisers name for block) parts too, especially the clutch and brake reservoirs. Much prefer them to the Brembo jam jars that Triumph are putting on their bikes of late ;-)

[@glennturnbull8568]

I was 52 when I got my first GS, on my third one now, and waiting for whatever the GSA version will become later this year to get my wallet out.

[@MrSilus2000]

Sounds like a perfect time to pick up an older model

[@wretchedrider2157]

ACC is just the start of the dumbing down and eventual neutering tech of motorcycles... otherwise, it seems fantastisch, great video, Choppsy!

[@papadingo582]

I’m also 52y, thinking about retiring race bikes, I rides s1000rr, also having thoughts to change the ride between the gs1300 and the street bike s1000r, I know that they are different bikes , but it would be great to do a video comparing the gs1300 , s1000r, and the s1000xr, which one can you can ride better handle better as you grow older in age.

[@Baste_Bastesen]

R1250R is a great bike. 🇳🇴😎

[@troopz4683]

Don,t get a GS chops, I am 68 and recently bought a S1000RR M sport to go with me GSXR750 Suzuki c,mon chops get a grip!! 🏋‍♂🏋‍♂🏋‍♂

[@davidgaham1605]

chopy can you do vid on difference on zh2 and h2 because i want to buy a h2 but i don't know if it worth it since i have a zh2 and im gonna keep my zh2 like how lighter is h2 what it like to drive on A roads compared to zh2 and so on.

[@adamc209]

Never understood the “oh god I think I like a GS” thing. They’re brilliant bikes, for people who actually use them and not do 2k a year 👌🏻 15k on mine last year and didn’t miss a beat

[@mbal4052]

15k of snoozing. I kept my 1250 for 3 months and it's was a complete borefest

[@iancullen954]

I'm 6ft and found the screen noisy as ! The one i currently have as a loaner jumps out of 1st gear continuously and has the worst snatchy throttle in dynamic mode- properly like an on off switch. Nothing on the throttle then a mad surge with minimal input. I also disagree with the ergos, i find the underside of my thighs getting cold through wind blast which is not there on my 1250. I found i was sitting on the bike rather than in it.

[@GCTO239]

Agreed

[@LambChopRides]

Yes agree you do sit on this and not in it like the 1250. We actually recorded a direct comparison today 👍

[@DaleMt09sp]

At 6-3 I’ve not found a sport tourer/adventure bike with a screen that’s any good even English biker Dan at like 5-6 has issues with most of them

[@davetalton6939]

Have you done a comparison between the KTM super adventure and the BMW? I have a Superduke and if I were to go for an adventure bike I think I’d have to go for the super adventure for the wheelies and general stupidity..

[@kiwicanuck5459]

I am 52 and I couldn’t give up my Speed 1200 RS any time soon, maybe a GS when i am 65

[@vplph]

You must be a good pilot... Riding this without adaptive headlight!! 😉

[@LambChopRides]

I just about managed 😄👍

[@mbingham10]

What I struggle with is the power raise do you need this much power for adventure/touring I dont think so plus the police in the UK are around every covert corner doing you for 25 in a 20 MPH zone especially in my what used to be ideal destination Wales wont be going there next riding season they must be loosing a fortune in tourism

[@fazerdude1965]

You WILL buy a GS eventually. I held out until I was 58, but my GSXS1000F was just getting too uncomfortable unfortunately

[@badfinger61]

Did a Scotsman design the headlamp on the new R1300? Fair question. 😉

[@flatcapcaferacer]

The only time I ever hear real negatives is when the legacy press reviews the new models (regardless of brands), then we hear how the 1200 was much improved over the 1150 and on we go to 1250 then 1300. I do appreciate when things that owners will find troublesome and aggravating are pointed as well as the marvelous new bits.

[@tonydare7614]

Nice review as usual. I had a GS1250 for a while and never took it out of dynamic mode, but it still wasn't exciting but handled wonderfully. The 1300 does look like a step up! TBH, I leave all my bikes in sports mode and just adjust the throttle. I've never found rain or road modes on any bike to give better feedback and there is no such thing as too much power if you have good brakes and know how to ride, even in the centre of a big city.

[@Honda_Africa_Twin]

The thing you missed is the level of traction control that also changes along with the throttle map (riding modes), especially in rain mode. If it was only throttle then yes - I agree 100% that it’s all in the wrist.

[@tonydare7614]

@@Honda_Africa_Twin I know what you're saying but I grew up riding in the 80s before ABS and traction control. In dynamic mode there is enough of everything for me to adjust my riding. I currently own a Livewire One and sport mode has enough engine breaking, traction control, etc despite the huge torque, even for wet conditions

[@RobertCrawford5017]

Road mode gives a softer suspension when riding at steady, faster speeds on the highway. You don't feel every bump.

[@adaptableadventurerider]

To spec everything its 28k ive actually gone in the other direction to the 1300 this time from a 2018 R1200GS TE Rallye to a 1150gsa. When i bought the 2004 BMW R1150GSA with factory none abs an enduro 1st gearbox. With quite alot of thinking behind it which ill elaborate on a bit. I had 3 gs's previously my last one being the 2018 which i bought 2nd hand with full te spec all that stuffs brilliant till it starts to go wrong and costs the earth. On my 2014 GSA that lunched 2 engines (dealer screw up) a gearbox, fd, esa failiures the display packed in and lots of other problems with it fly by wire issues etc, dad an I had 2x ktm 390s which again were riddled with tech issues luckily we managed to get our money back on the ktms. The one thing you never tend to see mentioned is some of the stuff like the fact BMW burried the alternators in the engine on the 1200 or that the FD is now classed as a consumable at £1750. Bmw will no longer sell you the bearings for the FD so you can rebuild it like they did on the 1150s an back, for 300 quid in parts. Then the fact the manufacturers wont sell service manuals now. My concern with all the adaptive ride height, radars, tft, keyless etc is its all well an good but if you intend to keep the bike past the point of warranty (or miles bmw warranty the parts for IE Suspension in the warranty book 1200 it was about 30k which coincidently is when its usually toast or needing rebuild) you are landed with the expense of these fancy systems when they fail which gives food for thought especially as someone who experienced this on these high tech bikes. When i got my 1150 i experienced multiple part failures through out the bike shortly after purchase due to the previous people that had it an for 3k id repaired it all, new shocks, fd, stick coils, forks, tyres, fuel pump, lines, connectors, and other stuff on a 5k bike. That money wouldnt go far at all on rhe newer gen stuff. Under warranty once the shocks are past theres On a 1200gs the rear shock is £1850 for an esa shock rear £1174 front esa from bm' The difference being with the 1150 i was able to work on it easily and efficiently myself so although it was a worse case scenario it was just parts. Ive also found the 1150 far more engaging to ride an more fun as you can use more of the power on our roads. The 1150 gsa is also a doddle to put on its centre stand without any electronic assist. I wish BMW would produce a 500cc or 800cc boxer that ships with all the tools to work on the bike like they used to with a big comfy seat sensible seat height an ships with the service manual an thats been designed to be worked on like the original G/S was its like they are loosing there way in favour of siphoning money via the services model where systems are designed for the end user to not be able to carry out tasks on the bikes. Im my opinion all the tools, inc plug ins and manuals should be able to be bought as proprietary from your chosen brand. thatd be a real market disruptor with the Himalayan now being full of tech to.

[@SP-xd8gs]

You should write more next time not enough

[@LambChopRides]

Yeah that is the worry with all the tech, also the servicing yourself is a big element I get it 👍

[@johnnyboy1586]

Its funny how back in the early 80s 100hp was and felt fast now riders say it has to be 140 - 150ph to be fast,then havimg all the electronic aids to help real it in !😊

[@markshirley7639]

Lack of exhaust note is disappointing , the 1250 has a lovely deep brap as does my 1290 sa ktm . Big leap forward for bmw though !! Plus still 6000 mile service intervals .

[@lold6130]

Is the GS worth the premium over a Tracer 9 GT plus? And BMW shaft drives have a tendency to fail leaving owners with big repair bill. Is it the same shaft drive on this new GS do you know?

[@user-ly6zu5yo5g]

New one

[@LambChopRides]

I will let you know, Tracer GT + here at the moment?

[@lold6130]

@@LambChopRides Thanks John.

[@dingbat2076]

Vs Suzuki Gsx-s1000gx??? Which one?

[@ridero5]

What is the weight of the motorcycle you are riding, I know the base variant weight is 237, but for the other variants there is no weight details mentioned

[@SuperSnallygaster]

I'm sure this is a fantastic bike and a great upgrade over the 1250 - and I love my 1250 so much that I just bought an S1000XR to compliment it! It's a great tourer, great in town, and off-road capable. It can be whatever you want it to be. I can't wait to demo this 1300. If you can only have one bike, the GS is a great choice. Looking forward to the comparison!

[@richardhorton25]

I wonder how many modern bikes will get written off (and the riders injured) because they were concentrating on fiddling with the various tech instead of concentrating on the hazards that are right in front of them

[@squiretomasie7003]

Damn you've almost sold me! GS was the last bike I would have ever considered before and love the Green.

[@LambChopRides]

Yeah sorry... Same here really! Now a GS is on my want list! 🤦‍♂️

[@davidmallia628]

Just admit reality. You are entering your golden years. Relax, and enjoy it, and thank your lucky stars that such a machine exists. And take no notice of the grumblers. If you want to use it to just to go out for a cofee, down the road, just do it in, smug, pleasure, with the reassurance that if you choose to cross the alps, in comfort, and composure, , and fun, you have the machine to do it.

[@norriemasson4080]

It’s only a matter of time Chopsy

[@andrewlucas6214]

Remember when BMW did a HP2 megamoto based on air cooled GS 1200? Imagine now an M1300gs with 17” inch wheels and M power paint scheme!

[@LambChopRides]

Oh yes like the sound of that! 😎😎