BMW X5 gets stuck in snow. Very stuck.

We drove out to my friend's winter cabin. Whilst there, it snowed a bit. This is our attempts at getting home.

[@eshea5050]

Ahh the original BMW SUV. These look cooler than the new ones for sure.

[@digileksik]

I had older x5 3.0D with manual transmission and good winter tyres. Roads like in this video used to be a joke driving with stability systems off in Lithuania.

[@smilinachya]

Sounded like there was a perfect layer of ice under that snow - makes for tough truckin'.

[@pavoutsinas]

you need snow tires for these conditions

[@kurtratzlaff8732]

The chevy had them.. didn't help him much

[@125southernnh2]

Because it was a Chevy.

[@SLTravel11]

No you need better winter tires.

[@NorWaiKid]

nokian hakkapiletta only tires used in norway for the most part (studless versions also)

[@silverback7659]

DK 4Life the best winter tires in the world are nit going to help much in those conditions,It's more about the power and 4x4 system/diff lock

[@vlad1889]

Deflate the tires, it looks like you are running at least 35+ psi. Drop it to 25 next time. It's still safe to drive and you get better traction.

[@motorhead_jt21]

The X did pretty well considering it had all seasons on it.

[@musicmaestrodj]

People confuse these modern all wheel drive systems with 4 wheel drive systems, they are not the same thing. These new systems generally apply power only to the wheels that have traction to save on gas consumption. When the system detects slippage, it stops sending power to those wheels and applies it to the other ones. The problem is, you don't have all four wheels engaged when you NEED them to be. The main reason I bought a 'pre' 1999 AWD Astro van equipped with a 'locking' rear diff is because the always engaged four wheel drive system. This is why there are guys who mount snow plows on these things. While it may eat a bit more gas, the peace of mind knowing I won't get stuck in the snow is worth it.

[@kurtratzlaff8732]

Agreed: The 'modern' AWD systems, i learned, have a computer simulated 'locking axles'...what I found out on this trip is the system works perfect driving in light snow or sand/mud, but if you are stuck and have a lot of weight on just 2 tires with the other 2 basically hanging, there's a torque limit, and a 'stuck' situation easily exceeds the torque limits to transfer power from the hanging tires to the traction tires and suddenly you have useless open diffs. The Astro/Blazer/Silverado 4x4's from the 1990's came with the GM "G80" locking rear end which would have really helped here. This trip was a large learning experience, and I'm glad everyone came out with only their pride damaged...

[@kaliikleja]

i still reccomend, buy Nokian Hakkapeliitta R5, continental vikingcontact 7, Goodyear UltraGrip Ice 2, Bridgestone Blizzak Ice, Hankook Winter I*Cept, Pirelli P Zero Winter and so on.

[@aaanderson30]

I don't know if you have all season tires or winter tires on your BMW. Nice vehicle!!! I use blizzak tires on my subaru and highly recommend with snow and icy conditions with AWD. I used them going down a hilly asphalt road with ice on top and it did stop with little slide. I was very amazed on the performance of these tires. Just a suggest if you like to look in on a good set of winter tires.

[@linnamuuf]

Buy some tyres, man. I have same 3.0 X5, haven't have any problems at all, even in a snow like this

[@sandromeyer3606]

1:45 ein Traum. Schön festgefahren, superglatt. Kein entkommen mehr, egal ob vorwärts oder rückwärts, einfach zu glatt. Ohne Hilfe kommt man da nicht mehr raus-es ist zu glatt.

[@HotelGolf82]

Summer tires for the win..

[@ThePetrashkov]

Summer tires?

[@esteemedenergy]

Snow tires=magic in the snow

[@orangindonesiatinggaldiame6420]

Did you deflate your tires? Did DTC engaged?

[@ianh7133]

I'm curious what tires you had used on the x5, they usually come with an speed rated M/S that are crap in the snow. i've run Michelin xi3 and much better.

[@ianh7133]

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[@dorull83]

With wintertires that would have been a walk in the park for a x5. Also it just doesn't help to put full power when the car wheels start to spin.

[@kurtratzlaff8732]

I learned a lot about how to drive in snow/ice on this trip!

[@bernardhossmoto]

Freaking Summer tires?! Luckily Winter tires are mandatory here from Nov to April to prevent drivers like this to do stupid stuff to other people. BTW: Did you know that a 4WD car does not brake any better than a 2WD car?

[@kurtratzlaff8732]

if you're in 4wd and engine braking, it would brake better, but using the disc brakes, it obviously would not.

[@danielfulop]

what did you expect from summer tires in the snow?

[@xPLHOOLIGANx]

Hahaha love the SUMMER TIRES EXCUSE 🤣🤣🤣

[@loonger239]

maybe the chains are will be better on rear? The traction is some 60:40 for rear wheels or not??

[@kurtratzlaff8732]

the problem was that there was we broke through the thin layer of ice on top and found about 3 feet of powder underneath. Each time we broke through the X5 sank straight to the frame and the tires just spun freely in the powder underneath.. even the pickup trucks with lifts didn't make it, was a poor choice in road.

[@classic-kool]

You have the wrong tires for those conditions ..........

[@mgrabos3848]

did you switch off traction control?.. i dont think so

[@anooseholay]

m grabos traction control being off could help but lack of snow tires and the BMW's (Big Money Waster) inferior awd system are as much to blame as anything. My 09 Outback could have driven through that mess without breaking a sweat.

[@TheBest-km6gr]

I have X5 but snow, what is it snow?😃😀 My x5 strong then.

[@haraldgundersson1456]

Und was lernen wir daraus ? Ein BMW bleibt besser winterlichen Verhältnissen fern . Selbst mein kleiner Samurai wäre da weitergekommen als diese Protzkiste !

[@CctvkitsUk]

These pre facelift X5s do not have X drive - from 2004 they do which makes them better in these situations apparently but yeah winter tyres are needed.

[@kurtratzlaff8732]

this is an '04, it's the first year of xdrive if i remember right

[@amdowney]

@@kurtratzlaff8732 thought the 04 facelift had clear more angular front indicators?

[@kurtratzlaff8732]

@@amdowney if i remember correctly, 2004 was the first year for the 'halo' headlights on the X5, which mine has, as well as the first year for Xdrive, well, also a new 6-speed auto for the V8, but mine had the 6-speed manual with the 3.0 I6

[@aidenp5768]

2004 U.S still had orange side turning signal lights, Europe had the clear ones. But it’s still the Face lift. It’s clear from the front. The headlights are noticeable and sharper than the 2003. Xdrive was introduced in 2004 for the X5 and E83 X3. The X5 E53 lost the 4X4 system for the Xdrive. The original X5 had a ability to switch from 2WD to 4X4 by the DSC button. The face lift only allows more control with the DSC button. The ground clearance is 7.9 inches compared to 10.2 inches for the new X5 2019. 222HP pre face lift-225HP for the face lift.

[@pianovox]

Hey there,,, i had always heard that the X 5 came in a stick shift, and as i was glued to your video, i realized from the sound that it truly was....Am i right?

[@Trail2Touge69]

+Edward Sim Yes I have a manual 3.0 X5 as well, just very hard to find.

[@kurtratzlaff8732]

I don't know why; these are so much better with the manual.

[@ryanpooler3962]

I know this is an older video. I too have a manual X5. With snow tires in Northern Utah I have gone everywhere through just about everything... including pulling a loaded trailer up deep snow inclines that my co-worker's GMC 2500 HD could not. I've pulled several vehicles stuck in snow banks, ditches, etc, including jeeps, and trucks. I've driven a 600 mile back road detour through a Texas/Oklahoma ice storm that had I-40 and surrounding interstates packed up for hundreds of miles in every direction just before Christmas. The X5 doesn't get the credit it deserves in heavy snow conditions and moderate off road conditions for a bunch of reasons. (No low range gear box, no locking differentials, ground clearance, its on road performance orientation, etc). I totally get it. Put the right tires on it will get you through some pretty nasty stuff unmodified. It is a capable machine within reasonable limits.

[@125southernnh2]

Needs QuadraDrive II

[@harisosmanagic8789]

Use Nokian tiers and don't worry, it becomes a polar bear car !!!

[@12Achilleas]

i think my wrangler with a good set of snow tires might have a chance getting through this

[@kurtratzlaff8732]

Probably would; the X5 and pickups are too heavy for their tire size, and kept falling to the bottom and getting hung up (snow was 3-5' deep until you got to pavement) a local drives an old beat up Suzuki Samurai with really good tires and he could literally go anywhere he wanted, he said in these conditions, the lightweight Suzuki is unbeatable and I assume a Wrangler would be the same.

[@hustler4ya]

i would pass that with a toyota yaris with proper winter tires.

[@kurtratzlaff8732]

Sounds good man, I'll show you the road, and you can show me your sexy bad-ass Yaris..

[@hustler4ya]

i was sarcastic , its just that the snow is packed so you need a higher car. but an x5 with almost any snow tires would pass that , specially some studded haka 8 or non studded r2.

[@kurtratzlaff8732]

oh i know :) and from what I've seen in the past, lightweight front-drive cars actually do really well, provided they don't get high-centered...

[@orangindonesiatinggaldiame6420]

Did you de

[@vahagnmazm]

You need winter tires and you wouldn't have this problem

[@x5or]

I posted a recent shoot where the X5 got stuck in the mountain: m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/n56sXohmh8emqrs

[@davegravedigger3758]

Yesss more gas mooooore make the tires spin! Ever heard of chains?

[@kurtratzlaff8732]

you mean the ones we put on the vehicle in the video? those chains?

[@clausfkvist]

buy som decent winter tires

[@radustancu5468]

get winter tires

[@AStanton1966]

Cool video.

[@thomasford4235]

Correct tires or chains and you wouldn't have this problem...

[@kurtratzlaff8732]

watch 2:15 and beyond, we had chains on all 4 wheels. Rear tires were brand new the previous day. Didn't help. We just sank and got hung up. Also, the Green Chevy had chains, so did the Dodge behind it. they both didn't make it either.. lol

[@thomasford4235]

Winter Tires?

[@kurtratzlaff8732]

yes

[@intrepidmilotic5999]

it would not matter, BMW have a terrible AWD.

[@handas2]

I have a BMW and its AWD is good.

[@kickadams8908ass]

A Range Rover would've plowed right through it

[@sebastianstatham3274]

Seth Clayburn or dodge ram

[@aidenp5768]

Seth Clayburn Not a single car can unless you have snow tires

[@pavelabadjiev8220]

bmw

[@kaliikleja]

But life is more valuable and worth to spend money to proper winter tires. Do you know that, if weather is example 2 degress pluss, then winter tire ise better than summer tire even in darmac ? I watch many winter crashes and chaoses videos what take place in usa. And i see same thing all the time. People don't use proper winter tires and result is dramatic sometimes. I think, proper winter tires is wort this money, saves lives and make traffic much safer. Also i must say, manual BMW x5 is cool, i like manual too, but i drive front wheel drive Honda :) I have seen manu winter videos in usa, cars trouble on ice and snow, many accidents, difficulties and even dramatic results. They don't use proper winter tires, traffic could be much easier and safer, if they use proper winter tires. Even if most time is no slippery, you don't know, when road conditions change suddenly.

[@kurtratzlaff8732]

it never gets cold enough in southern California. today (10 November) it was 98F (36C) in Los Angeles. in January it is usually in the 50's (10C). I agree winter tires are better, but there is no winter in Southern California.

[@slappy8941]

Nothing but a serious 4x4 with big tires and locking differentials will work in that kind of snow.

[@kaliikleja]

Why you don't use proper winter tires, i mean real good winter tires. Example some Continental, Nokian, Goodyear, Bridgestone and some other good winter tires, what is meant to be use in north. I say, good winter tires change much, my own experience. I live in North in Europe and many people in here, using even studded tires, me too. Some people use not studded tires here, but they have still good winter tires what is meant to be used in north. Here we have law, what says, we must use winter tires on winter, studded or not, but winter tires.

[@kurtratzlaff8732]

I live in southern California. It's the 4th of November and 86 today (30C). It doesn't snow anywhere within 100 miles of my house. It hardly gets cold. Difficult to justify the cost of a second set of tires for an occasional trip up the mountain to visit the snow.

[@MRSARMALE]

Tiers

[@intrepidmilotic5999]

I am not surprised, every winter i see BMWs Stuck in snow or sliding on ice, if you wanna pay some money on a luxury SUV go with an Audi.

[@kurtratzlaff8732]

I refuse to buy an automatic, and this was one of the last suv available with a clutch. I have a boat that weighs 5500 pounds, and nothing available with a clutch can tow that much outside of a nissan/ toyota (bleh) or a Porsche Cayenne (good luck finding one with a manual) . I have an X5 purely because there are so few options out there with a manual transmission.

[@kurtratzlaff8732]

I've bought strictly manuals until 6 months ago I went for a Mercedes SL500 and 4 months later it started having transmission issues. My roommate bought a VW Golf new in 2013 with the 6 speed auto and 39,000 miles later about two months ago its having major issues, out of warranty of course. My supervisor at work just traded in his 2010 Audi A5 because of transmission issues. Sure auto's are much smoother than they used to be but reliability is too low and cost of repair is too high to sway me from my clutch.

[@multiestonian]

I loves Bmw's, but if you live in a country that gets lots of snow, then get an audi quattro.

[@zaratinjak7026]

Bmw je kanta

[@shaanidesi]

California driver, what do you expect. .I would put it in low gear for this condition

[@SmallCraftCruising]

shahzab Bukhari the X5 does not come with "low gears" it's an awd car. It was in 1st gear, that's as low as it gets.

[@damianchrzanowski9109]

Quattro better

[@danielkunzmann1587]

Audi quattro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@jtothed8575]

California license plates, enough said..

[@kurtratzlaff8732]

no content, no subscribers, nothing on your channel. enough said.

[@thomaswoodcock5697]

Because it's an x5 there crap off road

[@kurtratzlaff8732]

The pickups didn't fare any better. They got stuck too, and one of the drivers was the head of the local 4x4 club. but yeah, when you add on-road comfort, you lose off-road ability.

[@slappy8941]

Thomas Woodcock It's "they're", fucktard...

[@vadimnesen8060]

Kurt Ratzlaff not necessarily u seen the land cruiser?

[@StartVisit]

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[@betterdeadthanred4196]

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[@keciu1982]

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[@una3437]

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