BMW X5 N63 V8 Engine Repair Oil Consumption - Valve Guides

kzbin.info...
Stripping down and repairing an N63B44 BMW V8 from an E70 X5 50i petrol. The vehicle was consuming around 3 litres per 1000km! A BMW dealer had previously had the heads reconditioned and replaced the turbos. Upon stripping the engine to replace valve stem seals and further inspect for wear, we found that the valve guides had massively excess free play, allowing the valve to move around inside it. This males the valve wear through the stem seals, then with both the seal and the guide oversized, oil is able to easily bypass and be drawn into the inlet and exhaust ports. This vehicle was like a James Bond car driving it down the road and hitting the throttle! You can see in the video the amount of oil inside the intake manifold too. The heads were sent away to be reconditioned (again) and the machine shop said that the guides had not been replaced previously, and had not had inserts installed either. The heads were reconditioned and the engine reassembled with fresh gaskets, seals, and fluids. One of the timing chain guides was also replaced as it was cracked, and the engine timing was set. The engine was refitted into the car and ran great without blowing anymore smoke.
#e70x5 #bmwX5 #bmwspecialist

[@josealvarez9123]

On a different level as a technician, love the way these master craftsmen tackle and fix these engines. So knowledgeable and not selfish. Thank you for sharing the knowledge.

[@globaltraders1338]

you guys are geniuses working on cars like this..amazing. awesome video

[@TinCanSailor]

Straight up excellent walk through of the work. Outstanding!

[@FourRingsAuto]

Thanks for your kind feedback

[@kameranlhoni410]

Clear & Short informative video, thanks for your efforts.

[@rotorblade9508]

Nice job Some guys used titanium wrap on the downpipes and turbo’s to keep the cylinder head temperature down. But that doesn’t fix the chain problem although shorter oil change interval may help.

[@almightyalan8942]

Damn bro you're freaking SMART i love smart humans

[@FourRingsAuto]

Thanks Rico

[@richardknight307]

Love this video. This is presently happening to my engine now. It start smoking bad and I may need to get a new motor. Under 88k

[@abdulalhusaini3768]

Love the video. I’m about to replace the valve covers on my n63 engine. What other consumables should I replace while I’m at it??

[@mikimiki195]

Great video 👍🏻

[@stephenpato5524]

....wow, just wow ! I thought I had problems with my n62b44 lol ! Still deciding whether I want to sacrifice my financial dignity to a valve-stem seal job, got a specialist that does topnotch work. They've advised against is as the e65 has many other boobytraps, but I have a soft spot for Chris Bangle cars. Great videos gents, subscribed.

[@darylmorse]

The Bangle era produced the ugliest BMWs ever.

[@isaaczarayan3422]

I loved this video!

[@FourRingsAuto]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@pfmurphy525]

Nice work guys! The cylinder heads looked brand new. To bad you didn’t show us it running in the vehicle.

[@FourRingsAuto]

Unfortunately sometimes once the vehicles up and running, the process gets busy and it's easy to miss the opportunity of cold starts etc.

[@pfmurphy525]

Four Rings Auto - no problem guys. Your running a business not a TV studio. Thanks for the video, I enjoyed it.

[@ibrahimalmotawa967]

You really a genius, M power should learn from you how to solve burning oil.

[@mrpantur7280]

they already know about it but don't care … people buy BMWS because its a BMW not because its a good car.

[@touringusa8760]

Such an insightful video! Let me ask, do the REPLACEMENT valve seals and guides have documented certification they are capeable to take the heat stress the N63 generates or are they simply identical BMW stock replacements as the ones that failed? I look forward to your reply as I own a G30 with this N63 powerplant with 20k miles that has excessive oil consumption. 😲

[@edwardgrosu1623]

Nice video but how remuving the engine and transmision tougher 🤔. I have the same problem thx!

[@GregoryBirulkin]

What material was the valve guides made out of? Will you be using bronze guides next?

[@silviataylor92]

Hi, My bmw E83 crankcase vent valve went bad with pressure in engine & blow out my valve cover gasket. Do you think it could have damage any other seals

[@ashishagarwal9473]

Awesome Video and nice job by fixing the problem that BMW cannot (without ultra expensive head change) I want to DIY rebuild the N63 engine on 650i - Is there a manual available somewhere? I want to know torque specs etc.

[@registrationaccount1034]

How many miles on that engine? Any idea what the oil change interval was?

[@alicutz79]

hello Four Rings Auto, can a car burn 1 liter of oil per 500 km and no blue smoke on the tailpipe? i have this kind of problem whit my passat 2001, 1.6 ALZ petrol engine, the oil just dissapears from the oil pan, the engine works fine, pass all the emissions test, but 1 liter of oil every 500Km is missing...if the guides and the valve stems are worn, there should be blue smoke right?there is a difference of sympthoms between a cracked head, a blown headgasket ? i have no overheating problems, except the oil is present in coolant reservoir, but i did changed the oil cooler as well, still the oil is burned,is some kind of difference between oil burned through rings and oil burned through valve guides?thanks

[@billyowusu48]

Does the heads really need to come off to replace the timing chain guides?

[@89five3five]

The dealer did a poor job. Glad you solved it.

[@FourRingsAuto]

Thanks. Unfortunately the dealers are limited by what the manufacturer stipulates what can and cannot be repaired. BMW don't supply the valve guides as a spare part, so my machine shop makes their own. A dealership would have to replace the whole cylinder head if they knew the guides were this worn. The machine shop they used to do the work didn't do anything to rectify the valve guide issue.

[@davidsheldon3663]

I have a '15 X5 50i xdrive Msport burning excessive oil (2 qts every 500-1000miles) now for the last year. I realize it is probably the same issue you just repaired. So, do I go ahead with the repair and spend $1000s or just sell it? I already had this issue with a 2011 550i xdrive Msport and BMW, through a class action lawsuit, replaced my engine for free (and then I sold it after the tranny failed at 65k). Or should I see if there is another class action for the N63 4.4l?

[@registrationaccount1034]

Where can the valve guides be sourced?

[@Kaizer243]

This engine is ART

[@secretsquirrel572]

No.. it’s trash.

[@hulk-smash-deez-hose.7951]

@@secretsquirrel572 not trash if you understand German engineer it will probably take 4 more generation model, and now you will see better improvement on a 2020 or 2022 model these issues have been solved.

[@secretsquirrel572]

@@hulk-smash-deez-hose.7951 the class action lawsuit paying out hundreds of millions to the owners of BMW models with this engine says differently.

[@hulk-smash-deez-hose.7951]

@@secretsquirrel572 you have to understand, German advance newer engineering technology, the only way to find out how to complete the errors, is to let particular models perform mileage intervals to properly diagnose each common problems, right now the N63TU is very much reliable in newer models, bmw has been improving, older engines may have ruined certain peoples trust, but others who decided to stick to the brand, they’ve seen the improvements, the n63 is probably the best v8 modern engine.

[@burntavocado5033]

How much did this cost? And also why do the valve stem seals & guides go in the first place? Seems to be a V8 problem

[@haydenwayne8337]

I got a 2011 f01 bmw 750li xdrive and my fuel gauge is not working and stays at empty i changed thw fuel level sensor in fuel tank and fuel gauge still doesnt work any idea what this is.

[@mattiel9156]

Hello, how did you clean the deck of the cilinder heads? it turned out very well..thank you

[@FourRingsAuto]

The heads were sent away and when the valve guides were replaced, they surfaced the cylinder heads. This finish is perfectly flat and only possible with engineering equipment. It's a cheap service that cylinder head or engine machinists can do for you.

[@mattiel9156]

Four Rings Auto thank you! Did they also resurface the cilinder banks? Or did you clean them.

[@MichaelVillalpando]

How many miles to this vehicle have? After watching these videos are there any improvement in today's valve guides? Can I vent the hood to help dissipate the heat from the turbos? For the time being can thicker oil help?

[@andytillman1383]

How many miles were on this engine?

[@mauriziocordova6583]

Hey were are you located

[@leebgcameron]

Have you done a video on best way to drop the motor assembly out of x5?

[@FourRingsAuto]

Not yet. Something for the future, but most e70 x5 i see are 6 cylinder diesel, and most people seem interested in the n63 v8 twin turbo which isn't as common here in Australia.

[@leebgcameron]

Four Rings Auto That’s probably because the diesel 6 is far more robust and reliable than the N63. I just love the power and sound of the N63 and want to get it fixed to be a non smoker and reliable. What kilometers had the N63 done to have such sloppy valve stems? I am coming to Perth in Sept so would love to drop in and see you if possible and ask a few Q.

[@alexdeltoro3593]

What is the cost of that work ?

[@jooper99]

How many miles/km on this engine at the point of repair?

[@nickludu2251]

I hope BMW is taking quality issues notes to improve this fiasco.

[@blackericdenice]

Nick Ludu Maybe the problem is not BMW. Maybe the owners need to allow their engine to warm up before driving. Maybe the owner didn’t get hit oil change on time. Maybe the owner change his oil on time but instead of using BMW oil. He use some bs like Royal Purple.

[@7477238]

@@blackericdenice Nope this has been a BMW problem since the days of the N62. Both the N62 and N63 were notorious for this issue and it was a build issue. None of their I6 motors did this with the same oil change intervals. The N63 is and was a nightmare of an engine. From the insane heat soak issues by shoving the turbos within the V of the motor to injector failures and valve seal this engine is not a long term engine.

[@blkcoupequattro]

Inferior valve guide sizing or poor quality valve guides ..

[@kensmechanicalaffair]

Maybe its done on purpose, so you have an excuse to buy a new one!?

[@secretsquirrel572]

@@blackericdenice it’s BMWs cheap engineering and piss poor parts they use. I’ve shit turds that are harder to break than the N63 engine built by the Germans.

[@gladiatoralmousa5689]

I normally remove it from the top . Of carouse the way you did the best

[@rohanmarkland2094]

Do you replace the valve guides with oem or stronger aftermarket ones

[@FourRingsAuto]

Aftermarket. Bmw doesn't supply as a spare part. They are as the machine shop supplies.

[@jasonsmall1279]

anyone thoughts on the easiest way to replace the y-line

[@rollydoucet8909]

Question: What is the millage on that engine? The wear in the valve guides is the most I've ever seen on one of those.

[@FourRingsAuto]

Sorry I don't remember what it was. I don't believe it was substantially high though.

[@redwillsdiychargedupvideo1486]

How much did this cost?

[@stibinabreu-dy4dn]

How much does a labor like that cost?

[@ronmac1832]

Very nice informative video. I watch these videos each time I start lusting for a used 650i with a $30k price tag. Now let me go back to lusting for a V10 M6 and then I’ll watch a few bearing failure videos. Question - does BMW make an engine with 350+ hp that doesn’t turn to rubbish at 80k miles?

[@FourRingsAuto]

No, bmw does not make a reliable engine with 350hp hahaha. The e39 m5 s62 was relatively reliable conpared to newer offerings.

[@isaaczarayan3422]

Four Rings Auto I would say the S54 was the lowest maintenance significantly powerful BMW engine.

[@TheHoth1]

Ron Mac yes, so you have to buy a new BMW from them;)

[@burntavocado5033]

Dunno if your still interested in Bmw but alot if us buy the i6 turbo and put a tune and some bolt on mods. Get 350 to the wheels easy

[@gruponemesis]

yes BMW does. dont listen to these mechanics. one must really go to the experts on the bimmer forums where the real bmw technicians live. BMW has ruined their reputation in my opinion by putting out there atrocious 8 cyl engines the last 2 decades, They did however overhaul the N63 in 2014-2018 and named it n63TU. I cant recall which exact models received this engine but I do know the 2014 -2018 7 series has them. I have my 2015 750li which has been rock solid for me. she is at 73,000 miles. before that I had the 2008 750...which was a horror story. if your going to buy used, be wise and get a Dealership CPO one. anyways, I find it hilarious on these mechanics on youtube who just state whatever they hear without checking the facts. Rely only on BMW guys who only work BMWs for your information gathering. cheers!

[@NilsJakobson]

The same problem is haunting N62 generation of BMW V8 engines, premature valve guide wear. Many people believe that the problem is valve guide seals but it is just a a consequence not the the reason unless the car has lots of miles like 200'000 miles. Btw, what is the mileage (or Km) on that engine youre rebuilding? Thanks for sharing the information!

[@FourRingsAuto]

Agreed the n62 does have a very similar problem. This n63 was horrendously bad however.

[@leebgcameron]

Four Rings Auto would you replace the timing chain at 110k Kim’s?

[@FourRingsAuto]

Wouldn't be a bad thing. But maybe prematurely. Go off the service history, long intervals mean chain wear.

[@gabrielcastiel516]

hey just a question would a v8 E70 engine fit inside a regular v6 engine bay with out headaches?

[@FourRingsAuto]

There isn't a v6 model. The engine would fit, hardest part would be wiring it up and coding it to the rest of the car. Not worth it. Buy a v8. Both e70 v8 engines are dreadful however.

[@phibionkamere926]

i have a bmw 650i with the N63 engine can bring it to you for repair, the engine light is on due to a Mass Air Flow Sensor Fault??

[@FourRingsAuto]

I'm in Western Australia

[@112rorz]

Hi. What caused the valve guides to largen like that? Is it just natural wear or is it from bad valve stem seals? Also, how long did that job take and what sort of cost estimate?

[@FourRingsAuto]

It's wear that always should be checked for when doing valve stem seals. Can't remember how long tbh as it was probably 3 years ago. Expect a 30 to 40 hour job. From what I've heard, in the USA due to other class action lawsuits with this engine, its cheaper to buy a complete new engine from bmw. Not sure how that is in tue rest of the world.

[@112rorz]

@@FourRingsAuto it's worrying how this is happening to this engine with less than 100K miles on it. I have a 2013 650i 66k miles with an N63TU and if I idle for 10 minutes then press the throttle I get white smoke from the exhaust 😣 Shop said stem seals? Other than that though the engine runs smoothly. But I'm burning about 1 litre per 850KM. Some people online are saying all the damage is because of how hot these engines run? And that you should switch the thermostat from the original 105c to 90c. But could heat really do that to the guides.. ? I thought all engines are supposed to operate at 100c+..

[@mikimiki195]

What valve seals did you use BMW OEM or elring?

[@FourRingsAuto]

Either

[@ozandarik6757]

Which valve stem seals did you use original or elring?

[@fdurango]

Go for elring

[@mayelindelpino7573]

how much will u guys charge (first of all u guys are in Florida ?) to do the same to a e71 n63 2010 bmw x6m, I mean how much will cost me to do it right, thanks

[@FourRingsAuto]

Western Australia

[@noorhalabi1648]

I wish u were here in Sydney mate Cause I have the same problem but I don’t trust my mechanic to do the job

[@farqueue]

I know same here... top mechanics charge and it's hard to find a top cheap mech

[@leothecat3750]

Any luck finding someone, gotta get mine done

[@noorhalabi1648]

@@leothecat3750 Yep, I went to Smithfield NSW David’s car Mechanic on Victoria st

[@leothecat3750]

@@noorhalabi1648 how did you go with it? Did you get the job done seals and guides? What was the total cost? I’m process asking around, it’s like all experienced people are not in nsw.

[@kevinkalil147]

Do you know how many miles per quart of oil this car was consuming? Mine does about 600 miles per quart and I don’t know if I should do this job now or if I should wait until it gets worse.

[@FourRingsAuto]

That's pretty bad tbh. Not sure how much this one was using from memory, but it smoked like a James Bond car special effect when accelerating.

[@eddierad4944]

How much was this repair

[@JustChuck1t]

Where are you you guys located? I want all my cars to go to you guys

[@FourRingsAuto]

Western Australia

[@elsuarze7]

wow, nice, what is the time and labor cost of that job???

[@FourRingsAuto]

Probably like 40+ hours, i don't recall. Most people are just putting valve stem seals in them which is a short term patch fix.

[@ThomasWhittaker]

Question: can this be done while the engine still in the car?

[@FourRingsAuto]

Some people will do it in the car, but i could see it being a major pain doing it that way. I would remove the engine everytime as I don't see the point in struggling or being one of those guys that's happy bending and distorting things or leaving difficult bolts out "to get the job done".

[@leebgcameron]

Four Rings Auto Would you leave the Subframe intact as you drop it then, as in the video?

[@ironmiketeam4689]

Hey, can you give me rough estimate how much is repair like this cost. I called verrezano shop in NY and got estimate of 3300. BMW dealer wanted to replace the whole engine under bang lawsuit and told me to pay 6100. I have no problem with engine, can runs smoothly, I own it for 3 years, recently oil consumption came to 1 bottle every 300 miles, I only drive locally around town 2-3 trip 5 miles each a day. On the highway I can probably do 500 miles or so, but the worse think is the smoke when car on the idle, very annoying in winter when you warm up your car and sometimes smoke goes inside the cabin probably through airvents when heat is on.... Please advise

[@FourRingsAuto]

You'd be better off replacing the complete engine for one with a manufacturer warranty that is the updated version. These engines are a never ending story of issues mainly oil leaks. 6k for an engine is cheap.

[@paulvarrieur976]

It seems strange that you didn’t replace the turbo oil return manifold which is prone to failure. It was right in front of you.

[@greggregorich8048]

so the guy cheap out on fuel also .how is the inside the head moro carbon build up but less on intake.

[@JayCeeRod1]

Hi great job! How much would you charge for a job like this? Thanks @FOUR RINGS AUTO

[@FourRingsAuto]

I'm not sure how much this one was now tbh. Around 40 or 50 hours, plus machine shop costs for refurbishing the cylinder heads, parts etc.

[@wahedminnas7523]

My advise dont waste your many on apiece of crap..germine cars are designed on failer and to repair ..

[@1954cs]

As an owner of a used 5 series with this engine I have something to look forward to. You wonder if someone can't engineer dropping a more reliable drivetrain into the same vehicle.

[@isserdigan2835]

It depends on what yr is your 5 series. If your N63 has TU on it. The problem will be less likely.

[@1954cs]

@@isserdigan2835 2012.

[@isserdigan2835]

@@1954cs sadly your engine is the original ones.. better to be proactive..read the link..bmwtuning.co/n63-engine-problems/

[@blackericdenice]

I have a video where I talk about there is no such thing as Upper Cylinder Lubrication. I said engine builders do as much as they can to keep oil out of the cylinders. My point is, fuel addictive companies are creating problems that don’t exist to sell people something they don’t need.

[@FourRingsAuto]

On your channel?

[@jameslatimer1432]

I would put a new timming chain onas well to be save ,!!? And new plastic guides for chain

[@FourRingsAuto]

It is a good thing to advise, however customers look at the bill rolling up on a job like this and they start declining the extra "whilst we're there" and "to be safe" items. Where do you stop I guess, but I do agree.

[@warriorsf911]

Thanks for posting this very helpful video. There have been several cases of N63 engine failures. Have you seen this? Is it due to the rod bearings or some other component(s)?

[@FourRingsAuto]

Thanks for your feedback! I personally haven't experienced this but have heard of rod bearing failure on these engines. I'm based in Western Australia so we don't see as many n63 as in the USA. I'd be greatful if you subscribed to the channel or shared the video, as little things like this make a difference to a small channel like this. Thanks

[@warriorsf911]

@@FourRingsAuto Suncribed already. I will share your video with N63 community.

[@FourRingsAuto]

@@warriorsf911 thank you for your support. The more these videos get shared, the more we can give to the car community.

[@pavelsarkisyan]

My n63 failed. Dealer said it was due to a spun rod bearing. This was a few weeks after replacing the stem seals due to excessive oil consumption. When the engine failed, it broke into chunks, broke the engine mounts, bent the flywheel, locked the wheels up and i came to a screeching halt.

[@FourRingsAuto]

I hope they did the right thing and made some form of contribution.

[@markjones-vx3kp]

What a quality engine .I remember when BMW engines were good .whats going on these days?? It’s not just BM None of them can build anything good it seems now😩😩

[@Trinibad718]

Hi sir I'm from New York I have a n62 v8 similar to this can u explain how to remove the valve guides and where can I get replacement part

[@FourRingsAuto]

Valve guides are pressed in. They aren't listed by bmw as a replacement part. My machine shop made some up and fitted them.

[@Trinibad718]

@@FourRingsAuto so if I'm not getting any play or wiggle with the valve I should be fine right

[@FourRingsAuto]

@@Trinibad718 realistically yes that would be the simplest test. The n63 seems bad for it.

[@secretsquirrel572]

The N63 is a trash motor. We had it in our 2012 750Li which burned one to two quarts of oil a month. The engine finally ate itself and BMW replaced it for about $5500. The oil light illuminated no less than about two weeks after getting the car back from repair. I was sick of putting money into German made trash so we got rid of it and bought a new GMC Denali that will last 500,000 miles before ever displaying an issue.

[@jacksoncorp124]

Why do the valves wear so bad? Is there an upgrade to the guides that will allow them to last longer?

[@FourRingsAuto]

Not sure. Poor design is likely, or too soft metal used for the guides. Too long service intervals also can't be helping. The guides can't be purchased from BMW so our head rebuilder makes their own. Whether this prevents it reoccurring I'm not sure yet. Time will tell.

[@jacksoncorp124]

@@FourRingsAuto I only ask this because this would be a good time to call Ferrea and have them make a new set of valves and guides for the head. Maybe they could create a fix to this problem and give it some longevity.

[@FourRingsAuto]

@@jacksoncorp124 possibly worth looking into.

[@jacksoncorp124]

@@FourRingsAuto Also not sure why the rod bearings fail...

[@FourRingsAuto]

@@jacksoncorp124 Heard of it but yet to see it. Likely poor oil quality and extended service intervals. The oil drained out is often black. Injectors over fuelling/leaking and bore washing could add to the oil contamination. Just some suggestions.

[@123ralex1]

Today’s BMW engine problems must have a lot to do with the so called long life engine oil that now BMW recommends oil changes every 16000 miles, I had a bad experience as second owner of an X5M serviced at dealership under schedule that seized engine at 87000 miles

[@yoloomis]

Alejandro Pedroza what happened after the engine seized?

[@lukechammen9538]

@@yoloomis It seized to exist ;-)

[@rollydoucet8909]

My BMW dealer recommended oil changes at 12,000 kilometers, however I chose to change oil every 9,000 instead. Oil is cheaper than engine repairs.

[@secretsquirrel572]

The engine in our 750Li let loose at 90,000 miles. New engine and install cost $5500. Got a low oil light about two weeks after getting the car back. BMW builds trash vehicles these days.

[@kaymac730]

Where are you based? In case I buy this 650i And how much did all this work cost?

[@FourRingsAuto]

Western Australia

[@kaymac730]

Ah right. Your British accent made me think you were from UK. No worries

[@FourRingsAuto]

Originally, yes!

[@kofianani6445]

Good morning sir how are you doing today please i have this problems we my x5 where can i fun you to do the same work for me thanks appreciate it.

[@FourRingsAuto]

I am in Western Australia

[@Zoro.AB.1985]

how much was cost for the job have similar burning issues with my 2012 650i

[@FourRingsAuto]

I'm in Australia so prices may vary to where you're located. I will see if I can find out the price.

[@dasuperstar13]

William Scott contact me

[@truckatadders]

Why would you R & I the engine when there are products on the market that allow the repair in situ??

[@farqueue]

you think a sloppy valve stem from a previous bodge repair can be fixed with some additives bro?

[@FourRingsAuto]

6 of one, and half a dozen of the other.

[@danielpeeks3388]

BMW is currently replacing my Valve Stem Seals, Rear Main Seal, and Oil Pan Gasket on their dime because of the class action lawsuit associated with the N63 Engine excessive oil consumption. My car was using, on average, one quart per 800 miles. 2011 750Li ActiveHybrid 7 with only 66,000 miles. Car was using oil when I bought it with 49,000 miles.

[@danielpeeks3388]

The Oil Consumption Test is in a recent Technical Service Bulletin. Call your Dealer and have them look up TSBs associated with your car. If you have an N63 motor, your car should qualify for the free oil consumption test. If they determine that your vehicle is using excessive oil, they'll determine what is causing the oil leak, and then send that info to BMW to approve the work. This is how it was explained to me.

[@ivanrodriguez9270]

I have a 2012 bmw 550i GT and it’s burning a lot of oil too. It has 68k miles. I’m gonna try to call bmw and see if my car qualifies for that job. Anything I should know before calling? What info do I need?? Thanks.

[@danielpeeks3388]

@@ivanrodriguez9270 The dealer told me there was a Service Bulletin out for my car called an oil consumption test. I had been monitoring the oil consumption since I bought the car (I logged the odometer reading every time the low oil light came on), and so they took my info and did whatever they did and told me that BMW USA was approving the work to fix the oil leak. Long story short, you don't have to say anything except ask what Service Bulletins are open for your car. If the Oil Consumption test is one of them, ask them to do it.

[@ironmiketeam4689]

@@danielpeeks3388 BMW North America refused to replaced valve sleals in my X5 2011 83k miles, they wanted to replace the whole engine and for me to pay 45% plus tax around 6000-6200, I say screw you.... I called pro shop in NY they say they drop the engine and replace valves for 3300-3500... I do not drive much only local max 300 miles a month,,,, I don't know what to do... Maybe I sell as is and get Acura MDX or something else.... This car is completely joke, just spend 500 to replace air shocks and 680 to open the hood and replace the hood link and latches ....

[@kostas4854]

How manny hours of labour am I expected to pay for if I get this done the same way not at a bmw dealer I got a trusted eurocharged shop near me that .confident can do just as a good of a job ...

[@paulsandgren8625]

If i were taking the engine to this level, id replace the chain and all the guides.

[@FourRingsAuto]

It already had that

[@stevelb9362]

I have the same problem in my 650i

[@FourRingsAuto]

Sorry to hear Steve. It's such a common issue with the n63 engine. In the USA there is a class action lawsuit regarding this issue as far as I'm aware. Here in Australia, no chance.

[@damianbarker8489]

How much does a repair like this cost in the US"

[@FourRingsAuto]

No clue. I'm in Australia. Bmw has reduced the price of factory reconditioned long blocks to a point where you are likely better off replacing the engine rather than relair it. As much as i prefer the repair method, anew engine is better for the customers pocket.

[@andrewdavis8137]

I’d love to know the total cost of repair in Australian dollars.

[@neil7741]

Hey mate, was down at the BMW and asked for a quote to do the valve stem seals. Was told anywhere from 10k to 12k to do them.

[@maxnix346]

So this is not plumbed for dual scroll turbos?

[@FourRingsAuto]

S63 has dual scroll, from memory this early n63 didn't. The n63tu2 had twin scroll also 2016 onwards.

[@heatmizer9172]

About much is a job of that size parts and labor

[@robpeters5204]

Why not just put new heads on it?

[@YvT876]

What’s the cost for the repair?

[@FourRingsAuto]

A lot. Not worth it in my opinion. Price up a long block from BMW.

[@YvT876]

@@FourRingsAuto that’s not an answer.

[@FourRingsAuto]

Ok. Unless you're in the same country, cost is different everywhere in the world. Just remember that I made these videos to help people for free.

[@72Disco1998]

Okay, after owning a 2003 Range Rover with several hundreds of engine issues with the M62 why is this engine failing at such a low mileage? Is it lack of service or crap from BMW? I remember when German cars were reliable. But this is inexcusable.

[@domkraggp9944]

No wonder I see these 650i's going for dirt cheap, you're much better of getting 640i With the b58 engine

[@Troy-fv9uq]

BMW last updated this engine in 2018. “N63 and S63 M version have received refinements in the form of Valvetronic, twin-scroll turbochargers and higher pressure direct-injection, in addition to other cursory changes made to improve cooling and overall reliability” hopefully it is more reliable!

[@secretsquirrel572]

BMW is trash. It shows when you buy a $105,000 car that depreciates $85,000 in three years. Then only worth $10,500 the fourth year. Japanese and American built cars are engineered much better and hold their value much longer.

[@gustavotorres9752]

I have an x6 m and I have same problem We should all come together and And put a huge law suit against Bmw

[@mannienicholas3693]

They already did. I believe they fixed the problem around 2016 n up. Also they knew it had kinda bad oil consumption from the start & recommend & adding a quart of oil about 700 to 800 miles.

[@bingbong59]

I have an X6 V8 2010, cost close to $200,000 with an N63 in it, it dose use oil the work shop Forman told me that it’s a high performance engine and that they do use oil, since yesterday I started watching Utube videos about the N63 engine, wow what a piece of rubbish, I have done 71,000 km’s I love the car but now not the engine, I will now look to replace the car with something like a Toyota which seems to be more reliable and cost effective, I feel heart 💓 broken.

[@72Disco1998]

I'm sorry but I've never seen a push rod engine fail like this.

[@adasterdezaster2865]

None of the work you did requires the engine to be pulled?

[@FourRingsAuto]

You know best

[@johnlockesghost5592]

I don't know why anyone pulls the N63 out that way. They come right out the top in an hour.

[@FourRingsAuto]

Dilligaf

[@darylmorse]

As a BMW owner, I'm embarrassed at this overly complicated, poorly designed engine. It's ridiculous that car manufacturers get away with producing engines with so many design flaws. The root cause is probably insufficient cooling and insufficient oil flow to the guides, resulting from the hot-v architecture. I'm surprised that you didn't change all of the chain guides, since they were accessible. They are all made of the same cheap plastic, so no doubt more of them will fail.

[@X5E70MJX]

I have the same exact engine in my car. Gotta say it is the worst engine BMW has ever manufactured. Had to replace it after 90k miles from oil consumption that led to rod bearings being crushed

[@hddm3]

What. E for inlet and A for exhaust? Wtf man. Makes no sense at all.

[@FourRingsAuto]

inlet = Einlass exhaust = Auspuff

[@hddm3]

I’m just kidding. I’m american sooooooo. Great job

[@Valhalla996]

Lol its about piston rings,, propably this will not help. That engineis so poorly design that its make me want to cry....

[@kensmechanicalaffair]

Wut!?

[@rezaq1]

What garbage engines BMW now make. I had this in an E60 550i M Sport. Worked nice as a package, but the BMW warranty was a god send. I would not risk one without, which is annoying as I want an E65 750i Sport!

[@alexpearson7693]

N63 better go ahead and replace the oil limes too… pos

[@eddierad4944]

Bmw is the German Kia over engineering at its worst

[@seikoandora6485]

What a stupid engineers what a poorly design, thats why I continue driving my 2001 & 2003 Bmw 525i both 5 speed manual im so so happy with this real Ultimate Driving machine.

[@live2hustle495]

Nah, u just broke lol,

[@blacksnow106]

N63 to garbage

[@gustavotorres9752]

Trash and they are so expensive