BNC#5: Helen Zille exacts revenge on detractors; shares inside story on coalitions; & more (Part 1)

After quietly absorbing verbal abuse from Gayton McKenzie during a torrid first morning at BNC#5, DA Federal Chair Helen Zille had her opportunity to respond during the Nightcap session. In this, Part 1 of that discussion with BizNews founder Alec Hogg, Zille exacts her revenge. Brilliantly. We witness a master of her craft at her very best, displaying trademark courage, superb storytelling skills and political nous. Zille also shared the back story of what is happening within SA's newfound political coalitions; and unpacked the DA's way ahead as the country approaches the watershed 2024 National Elections. Compelling, captivating and enlightening. A must-listen.
TIMESTAMPS.
00:00 Introduction
01:24 Helen Zille's response to Gayton McKenzie's BNC#5 presentation
05:25 On Gayton McKenzie and Herman Mashaba's refusal to enter into a coalition with the DA if Zille is involved
09:22 On McKenzie's constituency
10:35 On who is keeping the ANC in power
17:30 On Herman Mashaba's politics
20:57 On being the lightning rod
21:27 On SA's coalition politics and the best and worst-case scenarios for the 2024 National Elections
33:09 Why the DA's template of successful governance has not been picked up by the majority of South Africans
34:33 The major failing of liberals
35:53 The importance of good governance and examples of the DA getting it right
39:59 Cape Town as a tangible product of the DA's successful governance
40:43 Whether South Africa is at a tipping point which could potentially see dramatic change in 2024

[@miemsie123]

Helen is very, very clued up, she should be the country's president

[@radithakothinane8809]

I personally believe in Helen Zille...she gets things done,she is a good leader...a rare gem in South Africa 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦

[@thubelihlesphelele7901]

She is not

[@quakesquakes618]

What did she get done, when she allowed people to use bucket toilets like Dogs. The DA does not care about poor black and coloured communities.

[@alexheart3976]

What a clever black

[@maxwellbosso3082]

😂😂😂😂

[@donovanstrachan1938]

We need God in South Africa. Without God, nothing can work, especially working with so many people with different views and backgrounds.

[@Ron-SA]

Shoooh! Her transparency and straight facts is refreshing. She's so informed and in touch with reality and with exactly what's going on everywhere. Forget about race. I admire her. Our very own Iron Lady.♥️

[@merylkleynhans4039]

❤

[@davidbiggs1059]

​@@merylkleynhans4039 ❤

[@tombimashri8149]

So why are coloureds suffering so much unfairnesses nd rejections

[@galahadsmum]

Thank God I live in the Western Cape.... thank you DA.. and thank you Helen Zille for your strong informed leadership

[@maxwellbosso3082]

😂😂😂😂 crime capital

[@MrSpitfirebrothers]

Solid as rock. For me the lady of South Africa. Keep it up girl

[@christinemarnewick2847]

I have such enormous respect for Helen Ziller. I admire and value her. May she continue still have the energy to continue her strength. Bless you Helen.

[@nomxhosapekani7966]

I haven't listened but I know gogo is gonna be on point, she's a smart woman.

[@harryramphele7102]

@@nomxhosapekani7966 Professional, not emotional, focus, a woman with principle and morals. Look at Western Cape Province, so stable and economically growing.

[@quakesquakes618]

What about Khayelitsha and the cape flats are they also making progressive?

[@nomxhosapekani7966]

@@jameskillu9171 Yes, we have a migration crisis, like the rest of the world. I had three horrific attacks that could have been dire at the hands of immigrants. However, I hate it when politicians use Xenophobia to gain votes. Look at Tunisia now. Poverty is created by govt period, let's stop shifting the blame like them.

[@Straightdeal]

Good to hear the other side of the story! SA's iron lady.

[@nielwilliams4687]

Wouldn't believe Gayton McKenkie for one second.

[@nomxhosapekani7966]

Viva to you!!!Good to hear that not all South African's brains didn't switch off with load-shedding. I'm honestly still not sure who to vote for but Gayton & Juju are no options, please fellow South Africans.

[@maryjooste6161]

I agree 100%he is a tsotsi a gangster a liar

[@maryjooste6161]

​@@nomxhosapekani7966I will always vote fr DA because just the DA cld rebuild the country I dnt vote fr powerstruggle anc/pa/eff/

[@maryjooste6161]

This gangster seek power he found himself I notice the gangster in Bwes he hv a big ego and a big liar

[@vut_zarco]

Been looking forward to Helen's response! Not disappointed

[@clintonroper007]

Helen Zille talks about facts, not emotions and promises in the sky. Really appreciated and enjoyed this interview. Can't wait for Part 2!!

[@BillClinton228]

People who tell you want you want to hear do not have your best interests at heart. What have the "peoples party" done in the last 30 years except destroy the country, steal our taxes and endanger our lives with the crime rate of a warzone. They can't even protect their own police stations, some police stations have private security to guard them, how ridiculous is that?

[@siphesihlembi8632]

Unfortunately about the 4 Councilors in Tshwane it wasn't ActionSA, findings stated it was DA members.

[@quakesquakes618]

Speak it Dan, they can't handle it when they hear the truth and then they are quick to blame the ANC sies man.

[@topotheworld1589]

There are lots of folks who have never had a phone, a tractor or a job after school..so CR did something to plan some help this year, he has one year out of thirty, 30 ,what about the parents who also don't have jobs. You have a better chance getting a job in the Western Cape than keeping a position in a council operating snakes & running down ladders think about that as a Provincial reality.

[@Sp8e]

Did you say ramaphosa? So you think a calm and collected person is telling the truth.? That's very naive.

[@mondlintshangase1671]

Hi Hellen, I'm DA voter, and always persuade people to vote DA. I like the fact that you encourage us voters to talk to one another. Let's vote DA save south Africa from further decay.👍🙏

[@magdasmith1421]

Agree 💯.

[@alexheart3976]

How will that make you better person, DA works for only whites you will see it one day. Why khayelitsha is like that but the other coast is doing well

[@NOTA-noneoftheabove]

Must say, this interview changed my outlook on voting to some degree. Ask yourself why Herman and Gayton want her out? Is it because she doesn't compromise on principals?

[@rgee]

Gayton's main principle: I go with what benefits me the best. Sadly' Mashaba's main principle is: get the ANC out at all costs, and that makes him vulnerable to other's who will exploit him. He might also have an ego judging by some of the leadership issues that have arisen lately.

[@marcone123ish]

​@@rgeeaction SA has Athole Trollop, he was enough for me to change my vote. Julius absolutely hates Athol "cut the throat of the white man". Now Athol is back stronger than ever

[@cobus76]

Helen puts most politicians to shame ... morally, intellectually and with decades of experience. Good luck to the fly by nights who whips up emotions and do it for their own benefit.

[@juansibold]

Just imagine if Helen was our president. We could of been one of the most powerful countries in the G20

[@leajurgensrobertson1389]

I seriously ❤ this woman. Thanks for devoting your life to make make things better For everyone Helen. You deserve a place as one of the most influential people in our history.

[@AbrahamBreda]

❤❤❤😮

[@tombimashri8149]

If thsts true than why is she neglecting the Coloureds so much, shis good to everyonexelse but not the Coloureds what is she afraid off is it the competition Coloureds will give her.

[@christienodendaal3001]

Would those 'detractors' have left DA if they had been credited enough for their contributions?

[@AndrewMcFarlane_1]

Those without principles are against Helen Zille

[@him4690]

Lol

[@crystalsingh2331]

Really ..it's clear you donot care about other South Africans.

[@catchup1206]

You're funny

[@AndrewMcFarlane_1]

@@crystalsingh2331 do I need to? Principles and facts don't care about your feelings

[@AA-xs8mv]

​@@AndrewMcFarlane_1 it's you who is in your feeling!

[@fionam.1784]

Brilliant interview.

[@bennievanniekerk2761]

What a calm informed discussion.

[@JayJay-mx7oc]

Still bickering, watch eff and anc takebover 🤣🤣🤣

[@soaronwingslikeeagles7982]

So clear the difference between Dayton MacKenzie the politician who goes after what HE wants and slices up those who stand in his way and Helen Zille an authentic seasoned STATESWOMAN who so clearly understands what it takes to fight for South Africa and South Africans..... simply because that has been her stand from the beginning until now. Was sad to me how Alec Hogg set her up in a defense position as though believing the politicking that went before.... BUt how she shines under pressure. A true leader. Well done. Enormous respect. May you go from strength to strength Helen Zilla.

[@mxolisisilinda8420]

I'm no DA member but I agree with Zille on all basis

[@tonitappous2422]

@@mxolisisilinda8420 Please consider voting for the DA in 2024!! If we continue to vote for small opposition parties, then the ANC will easily remain the largest political party in SA for a long time to come, and will continue to loot and destroy our beautiful country! The ONLY way to remove the ANC from power is for us all to COLLECTIVELY vote for the second biggest political party which is the Official Opposition or DA!! Let's vote for change and make a better country for our children and their future,!!

[@tombimashri8149]

It seems Gayton is trully a threat to many no wonder u nd haters hv no good word to say about him.

[@andrewtruebody2791]

We don't hate him. We are just slightly disagree with him​@@tombimashri8149

[@hudsonchalmers6504]

Helen the Iron Lady ,fight on

[@fionam.1784]

One day South Africa will be governed by its principles 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 because it’s the only way it can be governed. amen. Bravo Helen.

[@pamelaleibowitz3019]

Helen is an incredible, highly intelligent woman. She is knowledgeable and has intregity. That is her strength!

[@christinefinniss6263]

Thank you Alec Hogg for reinforcing my early comment about the Western Cape being like a different country.

[@mossfairy3060]

Now this is the type of president SA needs to get things done right...

[@johnellis414]

Thank God for a principalled and intelligent brilliant woman like Hellen Ziller

[@maseratifittipaldi]

Personally I prefer the principal rider Jack Miller.

[@jaysomeone]

It's unlikely that they would get Helen out. She is no amateur in the game, she's a seasoned player.

[@amm7088]

And she talks sense !Unfortunately there seems to be more senseless voters🤷‍♀️

[@jennyretief4978]

I was appalled by Gayton Mackenzie’s interview. Thank you Helen, thank you for your principles and hard work

[@nomxhosapekani7966]

He was all over the place, I was appalled more by South Africans who said Gayton for president.

[@harryramphele7102]

Gayton Mackenzie is a puppet of ANC and position mongers. Don't believe their constituencies in Johannesburg are happy with their moves, bringing the ANC in back doors.

[@straatcaveman7503]

Appalled that Rob Hersov holds the guy in such high regard.

[@nomxhosapekani7966]

@@harryramphele7102 I think he is more a puppet of the likes of Rob Hersov's people who left SA and ran to The UK and Australia. Watch the news in the Global West then you will see the grass is getting browner every day. Right now England stores are starting to look like Zimbabwe, no veggies on the shelves, and The Silicon Valley Bank is bankrupt and waiting for a Govt bail. They now want to come back in be in power. Why would Rod offer him 200 million?

[@jonye7511]

​​@@nomxhosapekani7966ike all populists, he will have to please so many and promise to deal with many hot button issues irrespective of their validity.

[@wafikaskera7179]

As much as I differ from Helen in ideology, as a politician, she has earned my respect. She is clear, concise, consistent, well informed and she presents herself in a respectable and dignified way.

[@mosesmabele1255]

She's so calm yet lethal.

[@greggoch4475]

Thanks Helen. Thanks for clarifying why I vote DA.

[@patrickdevos476]

She is a disgrace!

[@winstonmace4865]

Facts don't have Feelings. Incredibly insightful and exactly why Gayton McKenzie still has alot to learn about running a Political Party.

[@love2travel4ever]

Helen Zille will be able to govern SA with one hand tied behind her back.

[@sphiwedlamini5592]

The other one wiping yo a.....s😅😅😅

[@charlesoctober6358]

Sir, u need all these people on one panel. ASAP

[@thembi9645]

Exactly what I thought, once and for all

[@thembi9645]

@@jameskillu9171 so everyone that put SA people first is Xenophobic?

[@quakesquakes618]

James Killu is an illegal foreigner, which makes him a criminal this show has nothing to do with him. He must go fight his own politicians not ours.

[@susanbuchan1050]

Helen is the absolute solution to SA's woes, she is amazing and such a strong woman. I take my hat off to her truly!

[@barbaravanderwant4510]

How refreshing, encouraging, heartening to listen to Helen Zille who has held the line with integrity, insight, skill, courage and sheer intelligence for so many years. Onward and upward, Helen!

[@madeleinedonaldsondonaldso6309]

Thats why the ANC and their sidekicks fear her intelligence Between them there isnt a miniscule of what she is.

[@brendakruger2597]

The people in the DA speak sense.

[@garagepie]

Alec Hogg thank you for staying positive and for fighting the good fight for change. You, I think, can be the guy to really get all these rainbow coalition leaders together as you have started to do here. They just need to learn to work together for the people of SA!

[@louisvonbroembsen6345]

Thank you Helen for clarifying the DA's position on important issues voters need to take into account at next years' election. We admire your tenacity and courage in fighting corruption and providing us with a roadmap to a better future for all.

[@brendakruger2597]

This lady is the only person as well as John Steenhuizen who speak sense.

[@DebraHeylen]

Finally it's refreshing to hear a politician speaking with intelligence and integrity. Thank you for this interesting interview.

[@fanakakishale4588]

Should have been John Steenhuisen speaking though. I think she has become more of a gatekeeper to the DA

[@dorothywarner8141]

​@@fanakakishale4588 Helen puts all her effort into researching facts & debates intelligently

[@gxobinjasambemntungwa9694]

100% correct Debra

[@jennychurchill2716]

I am going to send this video clip to all my friends who have lost faith in the DA to rejuvenate their interest in the party. I have voted DA since their inception and have not faltered since.it’s na no brainier really!

[@dusty-lynnbristol519]

My respect for Helen grows and grows 🙌🏻

[@rickbrentletoit7987]

Good insight on our country and state laws and regulations.

[@mariuskriek1420]

What a lady and an example of respect cant go wrong with a leader like Helen

[@lebogangtlholoe884]

Dragon lady spitting real fire🔥 Gayton uses washed out tricks

[@marcuskelly5768]

An absolute star. Thank you for your contribution to South Africa. Jannie Steytler, was a personal friend of my grandfather, in Queenstown, they formed the progressive party together.

[@renehartmann3589]

It's time for the DA to wake up and realize that the fate of our country is hanging in the balance. Simply acknowledging that people vote with their emotions won't save us from the disastrous ANC! We need a party that is ready to fight tooth and nail for our future, one that is willing to get its hands dirty and play the game just as fiercely as their opponents. The time for complacency and half-hearted efforts is over. The stakes are too high, and our country's survival is on the line. The DA must launch an aggressive campaign that speaks directly to people's fears and hopes. They can't just say, "The DA gets things done" on their campaign posters and hope that will be enough. They need to be bold and unapologetic. Our campaign posters should read "ANC = starvation", "ANC = Zimbabwe", "ANC = death to your kids!" We need to show people that the ANC is not just a political party, it's a threat to our very existence. The DA is the only party with any muscle to help us get out of this mess and can't afford to sit on its moral high ground and hope for the best. Politics doesn't work that way. The DA must fight for our country and our future with every ounce of strength that they have. So, Helen, it's time to step up, use every tool at your disposal, and save our beloved nation from the ANC's grip of destruction!

[@elsadupreez4324]

Helen won’t step up to save SA from N WO. Look who she’s affiliated with. George Bezos!

[@leajurgensrobertson1389]

Good point!

[@marleneclough3173]

100%

[@madeleinedonaldsondonaldso6309]

And lets note that not one Politician came to the assistance of Paramedics transporting a sick child to Hospital when these so called "Nurses" tried to pull the child out the ambulance. Not one Politician did anything about the carnage at Hospitals. You want our vote, take action

[@chelseafc1813]

Walk in with the bowler Harties! We, DA members, realised this 'hanging in the balance' LONG BEFORE FF was formed , dear fellow. In FACT, the former Progressive Federal Party had its requests for a federal RSA refused - regularly - by the Nationalist Party mob! The Nats could have changed our history FOR GOOD, not bad, had they not been so selfishly pig-headed. Get yourself to a DA get together in action; do not sit and write. Participate. The results are there..FACTS. You, nor FF, will stop ANC-EFF moves on your own. Coalition is the only route presently. I would hope you are able to recognise this point! And recognition must happen soon to FF, Action SA, ACDP, Cope, etc ...and take care in these times Harties!

[@christinefinniss6263]

Gayton McKenzie is a gangster. A blackmailer. 👎

[@quakesquakes618]

Christine can you prove that in court ? If you were to be sued for this comment , Gayton has been clean for over 10 years and created many companies one of which is worth over a 100M dollars . Zille will never match Gaytons level now you must come with low blows calling an honorable reformed ma a gangster .

[@gabydavies5906]

clearly you are without sin thats why you can resort to name calling

[@Kibrab-mh6xc]

Gayton mckenzie is gangster and illiterate

[@debraolivier2147]

I'm not a Zille fan, but yikes, I am with her where Gayton McKenzie is concerned.

[@marcone123ish]

Yip. Gayton is power hungry & admits it. He better be careful though because if he agrees to anything in the WC & does a u turn the coloured community's will tear him apart.

[@CeciliaAdrio-ek5iq]

Helen you're a smart lady..Respect 💯 D.A.speak sense 🩵💎🧢

[@hedleyfurio]

Clarification on my previous comment . There is no doubt in any thinking persons mind that Helen Zille is the most professional , principled and competent politician in SA . She has done the hard yards for many , many years and has been consistent and stayed the course. The political landscape is unfortunately populated with people from the opposite end of the continuum and the bulk of the voters are the product of a poor dysfunctional education system who can be easily swayed by promises of more 'free' and short term benefits . The point I was trying to make is that perhaps her approach "at this stage of politics" may be a square peg in a round hole. I think many politicians world wide see coalition partners as something that is expedient- even if not correct .

[@ronniemulligan6127]

helen is a warrior strategist and a champion.

[@lesetja007]

But Helen, why is DA communications so bad. Especially in township. Push the employment thing hard.

[@ianianjg8464]

Listened to the whole interview. Helen is so rational and principled. Amazing lady! Clarity and reason!

[@ianianjg8464]

Clarity and logical!

[@peterroodt5343]

Very insightful interview thank you!

[@eacequitableaccesscampaign7786]

Listening to Helen, and how she explains the greed and cut-throatness of SA politics, there is no goodwill and it is hard to see a bright future based on the current system.

[@jacobmatjiu7285]

If we were good listeners and observers and our have our ears on the ground,we would see or observe that H Zille makes a lot of sense.She is steady,resolute,firm and wants the best for this country.All the emerging and smaller parties are chancers trying to get onto the bandwagon of politics b'cause of hunger or ambition to hog the limelight of politics and little or nothing to offer.Trully speaking the true parties worth watching is the ANC & the DA.My honest bet is that these are the future mainstream political parties.

[@hildadavids217]

100 percent.

[@lynettesmith2836]

Helen Zille will be a fantastic President. It would pay Ramaphosa to take a page out of Helen Zille's book.

[@seriousstrawberry]

Takes guts.

[@user-vr4vr3ou4z]

THIS LADY IS THE BEST OF THE BEST CREAM OF RSA. I ADMIRE HER EVERY MOMENT OF THE DAY

[@harduspretorius4961]

Ive bee waiting for this!!

[@gysgijsbers4202]

When it comes to matters of non-racial, multi-cultural principles, one has to admire Helen...long may she continue...she seemed abit under the weather...might need a long-week-end break, sunshine & hearty food to recuperate.

[@stefniehatzimichael209]

Hi Helen You always look stunning May God strengthen and guide you❤ Greetings

[@hyltonswemmer4824]

Fikile, thanks for being brave and so honest - I feel the same - it doesn't matter what colour or gender our leaders are - they must restore the glory of South Africa ! Politicians REMEMBER YOU WORK FOR THE PEOPLE OF SOUTH AFRICA AND FOR SOUTH AFRICA AS A WHOLE..........not for yourselves.......

[@tonykempson4331]

The Western Cape is a perfect example of what a DA led provincial government can accomplish. Imagine how great the rest of the country could be with a DA led national government. Let's make South Africa Great again and vote DA in 2024. Heaven forbid the EFF drag the ANC over the finish line in a coalition at the next vote.

[@ElectrostatiCrow]

I'm lookin forward to the DA leading South Africa.

[@quakesquakes618]

What about the black and coloured areas ?

[@nonjikocyril4274]

@quakesquakes618 These people are intentionally excluding talking about these areas,so they only regard WC as white rich areas.

[@marizannescott53]

For who, white people only? Okay 👍🏽

[@tonykempson4331]

@@quakesquakes618 what about them?

[@pieterjordaan73]

When in power...please...I beg you....prosecute all those implicated in the Zondo commission....and elsewhere....recover everything ....repay the country's debt with that money...

[@zukied4817]

We all know Zille would make a better President and DA a better party to rule SA out of what ANC has done in this country.🤔

[@wendyhardy8233]

Far too short a chat with Helen.....

[@rgee]

It's just part one.

[@JayJay-mx7oc]

She looks sick

[@robyncohen8542]

Courage and commitment. Helen Zille.

[@cvb8181]

DA just cementing their POSITION through this dialogue...

[@user-fv1gj4or2x]

Keep on telling the Truth Helen!❤

[@derekdevilliers4460]

Iron Lady, good for you Helen 👌👌

[@houseking1000]

I will Vote for this woman for president!

[@leroyzwane2097]

I love ugogo, she's strict AF, principled into ebuhlungu ukuthi abntu abamnyama abaningi balalela amasela nezigebengu ze_anc Kanye neziphukuphuku ze_eff, this woman is exactly what we need in leading the country out of this mess. DA Congress or membership is majority black, ask yourself this question, yini eyenza abntu abamnyama in the DA bavotele yena not other black leaders????

[@alexheart3976]

Wena ulalela isela elikhulu, ukhotha ongamla

[@alexheart3976]

Because they are clever blacks, the new problem in the society

[@nielwilliams4687]

One has to wonder why both Herman and Gayton dislike Helen, maybe it's because she does not accept their crooked deals ??

[@terencemolekoa5501]

Lol!! Are you serious?

[@JayJay-mx7oc]

Hahaha, she is yet to win national elections

[@ElectrostatiCrow]

Herman Mashaba isn't corrupt.

[@nonjikocyril4274]

Bafethu is it soo difficult to accept that a white lady can be the problem, yoooh this is why I'll never vote DA because madam can do no wrong!

[@quintonprince9783]

Can you name that crooked deals please.

[@user-mv1he6cq7d]

What a track record !!! How can one not vote for Helen - DA

[@thembelandesi4741]

It's unfortunate because people will only vote for change when the country is literally in ruins and the country is completely broken like Sri Lanka and by then it will be too late.

[@carlruppert7324]

Actually, even when the country has been ruined, there are some people who STILL won't vote for change 😖

[@mziwonkegagela4228]

Why did the non white people on senior leadership leave the DA???someone please help me

[@quakesquakes618]

Exactly they are fooling some black and coloured people . Then they comfort us with a lie just like Gayton said in his speech it's a white thing.

[@gxobinjasambemntungwa9694]

They were confused by the biased media like702 who are supporting anc,and most of them are not good politicians compared to Helen Zille

[@LoreenRademeyer]

Exactly.

[@martinjacobus9608]

Make western cape independent people will stand with you 100 percent or maybe 95 percent

[@christinefinniss6263]

The Western Cape is like a different country compared to the rest of RSA. Hence the semigration from all other provinces to the Western Cape.

[@homohabilis5651]

How so? Place like Langa? Gugulethu?

[@quakesquakes618]

Exactly thats the truth they don't want to hear, as long as the white areas are fine they don't care about us black and coloured people.

[@christinefinniss6263]

@@quakesquakes618 . Seriously? I live just outside Cape Town in a mixed race suburb. Cyril Ramaphosa lives a a really posh area in Camps Bay. You don’t know what you are talking about. Grow up.

[@nonjikocyril4274]

Cape flats

[@tonitappous2422]

@@homohabilis5651 See " DA- run municipalities really are best at delivering to poor," Politicsweb.

[@beroniciaayslie419]

Please people stop voting for free Tshirts and meals check in your area if theres service delivery .😎

[@kirkenicker3136]

Your comment shows what you think about the mentality of impoverished blacks in the country. Have you lived through the dark days of apartheid-like the masses in MZANZI had parents that experienced being removed from their houses and given a Bantu education. According to your logic, blacks must vote for a party led by a white woman who recently told everyone that colonialism was a good thing. There are non-whites in this country who would rather wait for the ANC to internally renew itself than vote for the DA. This is something you need to understand and accept. Its called emotional ties.

[@robertkonigkramer843]

@@kirkenicker3136 anc bot

[@kirkenicker3136]

@@robertkonigkramer843 far from a bot, far wiser than you think. The ANC time is up but their replacement will never be the Democratic Alliance. You’ve lived under ANC rule for 30 years and you still got Cape Town to run too. You a lucky man

[@beroniciaayslie419]

PA😈👍👑

[@maseratifittipaldi]

@@kirkenicker3136 Were the "dark days of apartheid" darker than the Mfecane or other massecres? Darker that the miseries people lived through before colonialism? The non-whites you refer to in you third last sentence are plain dumb. We all understand what you call "emotional ties" ... but look where it got us today. Lets not fool ourselves.

[@mariuskriek1420]

Helen for President we love you beautiful LADY

[@quakesquakes618]

You must be in your seventies or eighties to call her beautiful I'm not judging. Personality wise she has an ugly personality look at what she did to Mashaba she didn't shake his hand.

[@mariuskriek1420]

@@quakesquakes618 Thats your opinion i have my own thanks did not ask for yours

[@quakesquakes618]

@Marius Kriek the fact that you cannot counter the fact that she is so rude and didn't shake Mashaba's stretched out hand speaks volumes. Shows us exactly how she will treat black people.

[@mariuskriek1420]

@@quakesquakes618 Did not ask for your opinion i love her i dont care whos hand she shook your problem

[@donaldgray2128]

Iron lady

[@CeciliaAdrio-ek5iq]

Chris Pappas is a Sweetheart..a Fighter..Sincere Character..D.A. All the Way 🧢🩵

[@thomasgosling5155]

Helen for president, how positively different things could be.

[@quakesquakes618]

That will never happen, tha is only a pipe dream. She is losing coloured and balck votes on a daily basis our people have wakken up. Come 2024 DA wil be a small party, and remember their principal don't vote for small parties. Then people must not vote for them. The DA will fall after 2024 just watch and learn.

[@richardcompton2639]

God, Zille should be this country's President. No debate. Brilliant!

[@JimmyShongwe-fj5ct]

That's very true, people don't like a person who tells the truth

[@mathewman]

i luv this - hogg's coalition disappearing in front of our eyes!!!

[@user-rz5sz5op1p]

SHE IS THE BACK BONE OF THE DA 🥰😍🥰

[@antondupreez1368]

Helen Zille is in a league of her own.

[@robinboyes8749]

So, Rob Hersov, you want to reassess your stance on the PA and Gayton ?

[@gbone7581]

Rob and Gayton, two sides of the same coin.

[@arnoldmeiring7710]

Biznews must get them all together in one room

[@ivandeetlefs]

A compelling interview. The DA has a lot experience in governing and seem to have some structure in place despite it not always working. The biggest issue is that the DA has an image problem. They have facts to show that they govern effectively but yet their voter percentage has stagnated. The DA needs to rethink its approach...for a South African electorate.

[@tonitappous2422]

The DA is trying very hard to do that! Have you seen Mac G's recent Podcast with John Steenhuisen on KZbin? It is a real eye-opener on many of the critical issues facing our country today with over half a million views!!

[@user-rs2sq4jh6k]

❤Helena your working heard for our country i am shows we willing be safe in our countries 🎉 14:22

[@lieslhenning2275]

Bottom line, Helen is a heavy weight to PA and Action SA's bantam weight. They are no match for her and they know it. She has bigger balls than both of them, and that is ultimate crux of the issue. No minor party has time now to play childish games, there is too much at stake. They need to put on their big boy undies and do what needs to be done. Go Helen!

[@quakesquakes618]

Wait till 2024 you will see another story the DA will be embarrassed

[@lindahauptfleisch749]

IMO I agree with Raymond Zondo in that we SA should directly vote for our leaders!! We dont have a true democracy in our country!! Its time for change!!!

[@nhlaks_forexzar4523]

If Gayton, Herman and Hellen set aside their personal differences and work together, South Africa will be a better place for everyone 🤞

[@markgibson5994]

Mmmmm …sounds like Gayton is still a gangster!!

[@jonye7511]

​@@markgibson5994His very reason for entering politics like many other ANC proxy parties has been to erode DA support.

[@TheStanlef]

Helen them have Freemason strings attached... very deep state stuff. I do not trust 99% of politicians... period

[@quakesquakes618]

A gangster that denied 200million from Rob hersov if gayton was in politics for crime wouldn't he have taken it. He doesn't even take a salary. Hasn't used a cent from the municipalities and build factors es and jobs

[@hansielategan969]

A good interview like is normally the case with Helen Zille, but I have the following comments: 1. She was never asked if she would step down for the greater good if that was required to save SA from the ANC. Something that was hammered on to the other delegates. 2. "Don't vote for small parties" is the old DA saying. Remember the DA was also a small party and the only way they became the 2nd biggest party was by more people voting for them. The same applies to all other "small parties". The only way they can grow is to get more people voting for them. 3. We now heard your view on the coalition failure, blaming Action SA and the PA, but Action SA, the PA and FF+ blames the DA and Helen by name? All has what sounds like legitimate reasons. What is the real truth? 4. The DA run Cape Town well, which is probably the easiest to run under all the metros. When do we see the DA take over all the seats in the Western Cape in the smaller councils? Do the people there not see the blueprint or is the DA just focussed on Cape Town. 5. I get really frustrated when the DA talks about corruption with tenders etc in councils where they do not govern. If you know of all this corruption, why are there not any charges and court cases? We heard that story a 100 times in Tshwane, yet there is not a single piece of evidence and a single conviction yet. All we have seen is that the DA has now had 6 mayors in as many years in the DA lead coalition, which have all left under a cloud of controversy with a golden handshake. We saw the same with Patricia De Lille. The DA leaders said to her that if she resigns, she will not be charged with fraud. How is that even allowed to be an option? If she was guilty, why not charge them? Maybe we need someone to ask the difficult questions to Helen ZIlle and not the nice ones... I would love to see Helen Zille as minister of local government one day, as I think she will be able to do a great job, but will she ever get there and be happy with that? Don't think so.

[@sumyungboi3350]

Everything you said is what I'm thinking. Biznews is just a lowkey DA media platform giving other parties a chance so they can hide their true DA bias.

[@cobusbrits2]

If you have a size 13 foot, why do you want to force it in a no 2?

[@kingovo1687]

it's clear that they wanted to paint a certain narrative. Shes a career politician aka a lifelong snake oil salesman, my vote will be going with ActionSA.

[@dorothywarner8141]

​@@kingovo1687Wake up. So are most politicians . But at least the W Cape have people flocking because is is best run.

[@user-ze1ke9zn9s]

Helen I support you 100%.Its because of your courage that the DA is as strong as it is today. Well done!! Good luck for the elections in May.

[@alistairdebeer1190]

Zille exacts revenge and Gayton Rants. Your headings, implies your DA bias. Funny when someone is emotional, it implies they are not speaking truth. Zille is calm, so she must be honest.

[@luyandacherubin9016]

Couldn't have said it better.

[@eldenrossouw314]

They even edited Gayton Mckenzie's speech, clear DA bias. They specifically took away parts where he spoke about Helen and the DA. I would really like to know what he said that they are hiding

[@dorothywarner8141]

​@@eldenrossouw314 Go & look on McKenzies talks .

[@evanbrighton5646]

A bit like drawing blood out of a stone, but you got the answers, well done!