I foamed my Audi S4 and here's to let you know more about Autofoam | Evomalaysia.com

[@KonWaiLuen]

Nice. Desmond Autofoamed my Waja about 8-10 years ago. Car still drives beautifully today.

[@wanamen6125]

How abt the difference before n after?proton cars on that era suffer quite a bad nvh...so,does it hv significant improvement?

[@zulfadzley]

Any reply for the review?

[@BobbyAngmalaysia]

I went up Kon's Waja and said "wow your car NVH so good one ah?" ... then he told me he autofoam it ..

[@wanamen6125]

@@BobbyAngmalaysia nice...then need to aply it to my little savvy...that car is very fun n underrated,but nvh is very bad...

[@WongYs-kr1su]

luxury是什么价钱的

[@michaelleong100]

Bobby are you going to show before and after decibel levels ?

[@mostestalfa1]

On sound proofing i agree. On stregthening....err.....i am a structural engineer

[@AdamGuiness]

Totally agree. Foam cannot stop steel from twisting .. more of a placebo effect

[@Xaxes1]

I have seeing usage of foam in/with concrete in buildingsstructures here in Sweden nowadays, so maybe it's true!

[@AdamGuiness]

@synairesis Damn they should have build the bridges with 50% or even 80% thinner steel columns.... just fill them up with foam inside. Dumb engineers should have listened to your coke analogy

[@netmatrix75]

I am so glad that i am one of the 0.01% of people who thinks and knows this foam thing is wrongly marketed. *It does dampen steel harmonics.* Same scenario as when you tap a hollow steel tube and one filled with any media in it. Effectively foam in metal is more of sound damping material than structural improving. The other thing i am seriously pissed off is they claiming it is closed cell foam. When clearly during application there are bubbles in it during chemical reaction while curing. I bet none of these guys ever bought closed cell or open cell window seal at Daiso at all. Then they can see what closed and open cell actually look like. And the most funny thing is cars like this Audi is already Euro NCAP 5 stars. It is as safe as you can get. Unless companies that makes these foams are willing to use any of these 5 star cars foamed up and send them back to try to break their rating system. Which i am damn sure they will not. This product while more than 10 years should never be marketed as safety product. That is a primary concern if someone sends a 3 star car like the old Saga or Myvi and hopes they could get 4-5 stars out of this job.

[@qisrabutik7554]

It shows how little you guys are educated.. Don't simply jump into conclusions.. There are various types of PU foam which does the job.. Even in some countries, they use PU Foam for structural strength.. The rigidity depends on the foam, some from super soft to soft to medium to hard to super hard to super rigid stiffness.. And for your "engineer" info, modern world uses glue to construct high rise building as it is another extremely super rigid material to do so.. And of course, it is not gam gajah or gam UHU or even gam biasa lol..

[@trustgtr33]

structure is design so that some will collapse to absorb accident impact, how does this effect the structure after applying the foam? i am sure engineers have designed rigidity from the start..dont think i would wanna change that with some foam..lol

[@Davyjones5454]

Foams as good at compressive strength. But not good at tension and shear strength. So I’m not sure, if your claims of it increasing safety if valid ? Since during a crash the car pillars are subject to compression , shear and tension stress. However it does lower the noise and vibration, since foam dampens vibration.

[@nabillarif]

i have foamed 2 cars with them so far...good job , for long term use , absolutley worth it , just make sure , that after done , u go back to them to remove all those foam risidue that stick out from the chassis holes underneath.....

[@williamng4910]

Hi bro. I’ve done the comfort package too. Any harm in not removing the residue ?

[@khengkitchong8128]

@Bobby Ang Add foam to all components where necessary, except the side sills. Instead of adding foam, you replace it with heavy steel bars. With heavy steel bars in place on both sides of your car, it will lower your centre of gravity (cg) to the lowest and keep your cg closest to the centre when cornering or turning. It will keep your vehicle safe and steady to prevent roll-over, just like what the Tesla did to their vehicles' side sills to maintain perfect safety test scores. Mercedes also engineered this into their S class models.

[@khusyairi]

Bobby, wat do u say bout doing this to something like a myvi? Is it gonna make any significant difference?

[@skleo7765]

I've done it before long long time ago. It's not all positive feedback. Of course people will always brag about how good the handling etc... But remember that the process is irreversible! So, if YOU FOR SOME REASON DON'T LIKE IT, TOO BAD... YOU ARE STUCK WITH IT FOR LIFE OR UNTIL YOU SELL YOUR CAR. At first, I like it but the ride is quite harsh (like putting on adjustables as what Desmond says) and it became not as comfortable as it was before. Hence, sold the car and that's it.

[@Darrentzx]

Harsh as in very sporty and stiff?

[@wanamen6125]

Really?so it become stiffer although using the original suspension setup?

[@skleo7765]

To me it was really harsh and stiff. Imagine putting adjustables. That's the feeling. Noise reduction maybe 10-15% thereabouts. Anyway, think whether you can really live with adjustables before you do it coz you can't reverse the process after you do

[@BobbyAngmalaysia]

I think this should be regarded as a customer who regretted a decision instead of a product that doesnt do what it does.

[@Fadhly7]

Tried this on my kia cerato. (Undercarriage treatment only). I gotta say the handling of the car is improved significantly, less body roll, soundproofing improved abit. Next month probably go for upgrade ultimate package for more soundproofing improvements.

[@basilus]

how much is the price bro? been driving cerato 1.6 for quite some times

[@Fadhly7]

@@basilusActually my treatment is not at kl auto. Its at another shop. A bit cheaper RM 450 (undercarriage) GA auto near setapak.

[@basilus]

@@Fadhly7 owh..thanks for the info bro!

[@DouglaZandem]

Is the chassis structure made hollowed (aside of saving cost) is to make it collapsible, absorbing impact during a collision or rollover? Foaming it up would alter the designated strength zones, right? I'm not sure also

[@kwtay1746]

I doubt any foam can really contribute any significant strength to the steel tubing. But definitely can absorb some sound.

[@qisrabutik7554]

Can.. PU Foam is well known for its rigidity.. But it depends which type of PU Foam as there is soft to super rigid foam available..

[@Tenhing_Eth]

Oh yea, I've been waiting for this review! Would like to apply but want more info! Still hope to see the owners M3 Rolling too 😅

[@steveliu99]

good luck with your foam. a) reduce heat dissipation within the car. b) no weight gain?...you are spraying across most of your chassis , not one slice. Of course it weight almost "nothing" with the small part of it. c) foam chemical reactions over time, and you smelling it. nicezz....it's like slow slow vaping. Go read SPF hazards. Or maybe they are using animal-safe chemicals. d) crumpled zone compromised. any (ahem) situation, the car will take more than 2 times the impact energy, and where does that go?... the screws in the car?. e) stiffens the car, where all vibration goes to other parts. Wear and tear on mounts increases. For those advocating for soundproofing, audiophiles and telling me "nothing-happened-to-me-for-years", and "WTF am I jabbering about noob" .... All da best to ya. Just understand what/why you are doing this for, and how you intend to drive the car. PEACEEEEE !.

[@pewpewpew2325]

eh bro why ah you so butt hurt one? my money my car... u pulak so butt hurt

[@steveliu99]

@@pewpewpew2325 guess you don't understand the message .it's not about butthurt. People can share the goods, but there is also need to understand the other side of why industrial compliances needs to be adhere for reasons. I don't know why you go around asking people's butt, BUT mine is fine, and I don't want to know about yours.

[@EePingLiang]

Roof lining drop are normal for conti especially the German to have the lining delaminate between the cloth and roof lining board. The main culprit is the failure of the sponge lining between the cloth and board. The sponge material deteriorate causing the two to separate, hot and humid weather made it worst. Nothing to do with the glue acutally. Replacing the sponge with a high quality foam should make it better. I have seen Civic with this issue but more with conti make like VW, BMW and Audi. Cheers

[@KonWaiLuen]

Just spent 600 bucks to fix that on my E39

[@royalprince5878]

Does it mean that German cars are of lower quality and reliability than Japanese?

[@TP4MBH69]

my range rover vogue roof lining dropped as well recently..

[@davidv00]

looking forward to see your review on this car after the foam

[@ahmadirfan3622]

really hope on the day of evo enduro..hope u kon beng chris or fadhil or all of u guys review cars wrap on those who joined evo enduro this year...last year can't join cause don't have the car that can join..this year have the car but the car won't let me join u guys...dammit

[@wingkai2618]

When stop at traffic light, either CVT gearbox or normal auto gearbox should put on neutral or drive? #askbobby #layman

[@MegaTapdog]

Very interesting, is foam open or closed cell? I’m assuming closed.

[@nathus7993]

Hey its been 3 years since this video. Share your experience on how the foam is performing?

[@darrenfeehily9238]

he already sold his S4.. so no more updates on that car

[@jaded1122]

I did my w204 2 years ago with Desmond. I can vouch for whatever that's being said in this video. This is one of the best things you can ever do to your car. 🍻

[@fauzisanudin5811]

How much for w204

[@fauzisanudin5811]

I did my accord in 2010. Sound proofing is gd

[@fauzisanudin5811]

I did to my wish in 2010. Still ok

[@azrinmustaffa2849]

For a brand new car,if i apply the foam will it void the warranty?

[@HanzLew]

Will the foam easily get burn? When car on fired...

[@boonyih]

Should do before and after and we can see the different.

[@dayakrider349]

Thanks for sharing this Bobby!

[@mrvincent2485]

Will autofoam burn my car warranty

[@nl2935]

This so called auto foam is actually just wurth expending foam. Desmond get from wurth the place his own label on the cans. Bere in mind that it will cause rust and unrepaireble chassis if accident. Not a good idea.

[@leonghz]

Hi Bobby, where did u service ur car lamps at sunway?

[@botakleong788]

Myvi 2018 blh ke?

[@mohdazraaikamarulzaman3269]

Boleh kalau kereta ada chassis

[@P208-t8m]

Do you recommend to do the soundproofing for a new car which is under warranty? Will the warranty void ?

[@BobbyAngmalaysia]

This you would have to consult Desmond 😂

[@netmatrix75]

When they let you stand on the foam product samples, have you ever thought that in the case of an accident, no car (yours or the opposing one) is going to gingerly apply the collision force into each other? You should jump on it with whatever weight you have on it. As what some skateboarding people who snaps their board calls "focus their boards". That is the only way you can know the true strength of the product. As a "sponsored" segment, i would not try to discredit their company nor yours. But as a car nut, i hope better understanding of the product from various parties is better than many years of installation rep with a very small number of people that actually log their experience.

[@BobbyAngmalaysia]

Read the comments then.

[@jonathantham3262]

Does it apply for my Alphard?

[@limgenesis1976]

Pu foam?

[@wtzeyao7217]

Bobby, at Sunway which shop you service your headlamp and the total cost?

[@BobbyAngmalaysia]

WRC lighting. Cleaning costs rm580

[@wtzeyao7217]

Bobby Ang thanks

[@kickof1]

Been waiting for this! I've been on the fence to do it or not

[@BosllaLighting]

Very useful video. Thanks for sharing.

[@nasirnordin8441]

Bobby cuci lampu kt sunway kedai nama apa?

[@muhammadafif6714]

is it true audi projector headlamp cost around 3.5k?

[@BobbyAngmalaysia]

Cannot be that cheap. Honda hrv headlamp already 4k hahaha

[@kianescence]

I opt for autofoam track package and full interior soundproofing with Desmond. My verdict is autofoam did improve handling and composure at high speed along sweeping bends, albeit marginally. 2 years after autofoam was applied, I returned to Desmond for engine decarbonisation and that’s when we discovered autofoam was still leaking from the undercarriage, I gave him benefit of doubt that it was due to poor workmanship instead of poor quality foam used. Nevertheless, you should look elsewhere where soundproofing is concerned as he is not a specialist in this aspect. He slapped on bit and pieces of bitumen adhesives on each of the four doors and the trunk and declared it the best NVH outcome to achieve the laughable ” airy” feeling. In hindsight , I learned that proper soundproofing should encompass vibration damper, noise insulator and noise absorber. So moral is, you can go to them for autofoam but soundproofing is a big no

[@BobbyAngmalaysia]

It's not leaking, it's expansion of the foam that pushes it out after they fill it up.

[@ChenAutomotiveChannel]

Somehow more safety and effective modification

[@shauntan2266]

Nice livery man

[@chuaskh]

Wow. Thx for the intro.

[@juijgentan1281]

Good profit margin

[@eerashamdin]

dang bobby what do you do for a living? 😂

[@aviceena]

Can i foam my girlfriend?

[@BobbyAngmalaysia]

Ask her mom

[@Snoopyyy1999]

Mann bobby, how you find all these good / trustable places like these???

[@Snoopyyy1999]

Anyway, share more workshops like these! Thanks

[@BobbyAngmalaysia]

They are all our readers and real car guys, and we made all these friends from our weekend drives and outings :)

[@zakiasakura6481]

Thank you for your review. Really nice info.

[@cslimtube]

U dont foamed your car as the fumes is toxic.isocynide....

[@elwinbu5926]

A thousand plus for just the flooring . WADAFAK

[@terryeunice128]

Bro I did it there on my Camry too. So far I can feel the different and very satisfying

[@jonasluo1382]

bro how much did it cost you? Is your camry quieter? Any problems with the foam down the road? I'm thinking of doing for my camry too

[@terryeunice128]

@@jonasluo1382 I forget the cost. Personally the ride feel not as soft as previously. The handling I feel quite good. Definitely won’t be quieter.

[@vinthebin]

what is the diffrence with KL auto foam and Wurth auto foam or any other chassis foam in the market?

[@BobbyAngmalaysia]

KLautofoam was the pioneer

[@ekew1974]

Just curious....if foaming is so easy, inexpensive and so effective.....why aren't the car manufacturers....make it part of their manufacturing process?

[@BobbyAngmalaysia]

Manufacturing is high speed. Foaming takes time. Time = cost.

[@ekew1974]

Bobby Ang Time can be minimised and efficiently utilised .. if the processes are planned in advance. What KL Auto does is an after sale ... task... of course it’ll take more time.

[@游William]

@@ekew1974 they can resale sound proofing package later. It was offered in many car makers especially Perodua. They try very hard to offer my wife with cheap material but expensive price. Manufacturer won't give us a 90% or higher satisfaction products. Then got room for us to modify/upgrade. It is just a money matter problems. and main factor is less process, less cost, less problem. previous proton doing that to save cost. You see Geely now increase their productivity and apply more sound proof material. Toyota did it well. I checked my old vios. They have foam inside all the pillar corner area but not whole places la. That's the reason why Vios quieter than city and saga etc .... same goes to Mazda 3. the 2014 model come with empty pillar. The new 2019 mazda 3 had inserted a lot foam to absorb the vibration. I am mazda 3 owner. I can really feel the improved NVH. As for rigidity, I am not sure. I did DIY foam up my proton before. The NVH improved a lot but can't tell if any structural improvement as I installed full ultra racing bar and full adjustable.

[@flowerhorn3]

And there goes the credibility 😜

[@WongYs-kr1su]

一样很有兴趣，一样不知道讲么7。。。

[@andrewlouis9766]

Does this add weight?

[@BobbyAngmalaysia]

Lesser than a durian

[@RayFliesAway]

"POLICE".............eyewear😅😂😂😂

[@BikeAddictHealthConsultant]

why porridge when you can rice

[@kahau]

Thanks for the poison 😭

[@zabra6340]

police car!

[@danielsoon0302]

Unker Desmond!

[@danielsoon0302]

The Satria still there? 😂😂😂

[@Jigokubozu]

By doing this, does it void car warranty if the car still under warranty?