How to Create the Jeff Lynne Snare Sound Part 2

In this episode I give the key details on how to get Jeff Lynne's drum sound and talk about the snare sound Jeff Lynne hated.

[@mattmaloney9426]

More analysis of Jeff Lynne's production style would be great.

[@DoctorLincoln]

Hey doctor Bob! Thanks for all this wealth of information. Indian heart surgeon here. Neither wealthy nor privileged. But great job sharing all this info people normally wouldn’t give for free. Can’t thank you enough.

[@BobbyHuff]

Hey Doc! Thanks for your kindness and putting up with my doctor jokes!!! I appreciate you watching!

[@anthonydicarlo9554]

Great Video from the Doctor. Thank you for showing Great techniques, from the masters and how we can use them in today's DAW world. Keep up the great work.

[@BobbyHuff]

Boom! Thanks my friend.

[@soundcreation]

Always great information about different ways to record .. thank you!!!

[@BobbyHuff]

My pleasure Scott!

[@IrnBruNYC]

Would love a video on Jeff’s vocal arrangement/production techniques. “Heaven Only Knows,” for example, blows my mind.

[@BobbyHuff]

Great idea...Hes a genius!

[@TheStarclipse]

His voice on BOP was at it's highest peak I love his vocals on that record:)

[@davidjacobsen1903]

Very cool! I love to learn something new and this is a great new trick that would have gotten me out of some holes if I had known this one! Many thanks Bobby

[@BobbyHuff]

Great! So happy it helped David! Go to my store and grab the free samples!

[@linus98765]

"Don't Bring Me Down" drumming comes to mind.

[@BobbyHuff]

LOOOOVE that one! That was a drum track of another ELO song that they looped and brought the tempo down to create that one...

[@MobiusMinded]

I miss Don. Loved the unique way he used Flying Faders.

[@dbirving5725]

A big Jeff Lynne fan here...found you on the elodiscovery website. I'm also a fan of all things Finn bros(have the Imaginary Kingdom cd) and just a fan of music in general so you hit the trifecta for me. Thank you for these videos and keep up the good work Bobby! Dan

[@BobbyHuff]

Wow man! Welcome and we must think alike! ha. The Yamaha kit that I'm using in the Nashville Drum Session video is the one I used on Imaginary Kingdom.

[@dbirving5725]

@@BobbyHuff Aha, so cool...I'll stay tuned !

[@BobbyHuff]

@@dbirving5725 Jin

[@merchannel7762]

Never woulda thought of this trick. Solid content. Tame Impala snare next?

[@thaddeusodonnell3986]

Looked up how to get the Jeff Lynne sound and you basically had the only useful video on it, I'm sold on your channel. Amazing trick cant wait to try it.

[@BobbyHuff]

Thank You Thaddeus!!!! Welcome to Music Surgery!!

[@thaddeusodonnell3986]

@@BobbyHuff Thank you sir, Jeff definitely had an unfair advantage with Bev Bevin. But always thought he was the most talented producer/writer/musician/male model

[@BobbyHuff]

@@thaddeusodonnell3986 yes!!!

[@mr.blue7357]

Amazing Video Bob!

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks Mr Blue!! Thanks for watching!

[@8MinuteAxe]

Very interesting. Great information and great humor. I'm jealous. The only humor I had in my first few videos was a creepy stare. Great stuff Bobby!! -Mark

[@BobbyHuff]

HAHAHAHA...Thanks man!

[@rrojuan]

thanks bobby, sound great with the loose tension

[@BobbyHuff]

Enjoy!

[@Celestramusic]

Wonderful video! Show us more of all this Jeff Lynne tricks! Such a great sound! Would love to have the samples of the snares...😉

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks man and thanks for watching....ask and you shall receive.......

[@Celestramusic]

@@BobbyHuff [e-mail] is my adress, would really love to hear from you👍

[@prd004]

Awesome trick!

[@KevinWale]

Sylvia Massey mics drum playback to get a room sound on drums recorded in small rooms. Sounds like she probably knew of this too. Lol Thanks for sharing these videos. Easy among the most legit content anywhere. Who would imagine we could learn from successful producers like you and Warren and Marc Nelson, etc etc.

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks so much Kevin!

[@FireMoon42]

Really enjoy your content... could you please replicate the snare from Robin Trower's track For The Earth Below...50 odd years later I'm stil blown away by the snare on that track.

[@asawiggins]

Cool video! There’s some re-amping for ya! “Snare Buzz” is a free plugin by Wavesfactory, that does something like this. I have used it in a pinch where I have had to mix drums without a snare bottom. Highly recommend. Also, Dr. Bob, have you ever triggered a virtual instrument bottom snare off your real recorded top mic like you do with the room sounds?

[@BobbyHuff]

No I haven’t but that’s a great idea!! They do all seem to have similar tensions though....You’re smarter than I thought... haha

[@LCOmusic]

Great tip on the snare buzz plugin, thanks for that! Reminds me of an old trick I used a few times to add a simple 808-style sub-bass tone to kick drums before I started using sample triggers: send a copy of your drum to an aux buss, put a tone generator on another track and run that generator through a gate set up with the sidechain keyed to that aux buss. Tune threshold etc to taste depending on the desired effect. A simple pink noise generator in such a setup would do nicely for adding buzz to snares, especially in synth band settings as a simple artificial noise tone will give an acoustic snare something of a hybrid TR-909 drum machine feeling.

[@gatherstudio5219]

Not sure why I had a craving for rice crispies after this video

[@BobbyHuff]

Sounds good!!

[@MobiusMinded]

JJP did/does this too. Had an aux send to a snare setup in the booth

[@BobbyHuff]

Very cool! JJP ROCKS

[@billribas]

Too much fun, thanks. Kind of wish you had done one reversing the sample too.

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks! You will have that option very soon.

[@billribas]

@@BobbyHuff way cool, thanks

[@cfreeman5631]

Nice.

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks man! I love J lynne!

[@geoffcowan2384]

I liked tight and loose, but medium sounded weird. Thanks for another great video!

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks for watching Geoff. Go grab the samples in my store they are free!

[@geoffcowan2384]

@@BobbyHuff thanks Doc! This really makes me want to do some snare re-amping now!

[@BobbyHuff]

@@geoffcowan2384 do it Geoff!!

[@swettyspaghtti]

can we get those samples to do things

[@simply3141592654]

Do more on Jeff Lynne sometime. Perhaps harmony stacking

[@BobbyHuff]

Great idea.

[@jimosberg3769]

I've read that Mr. Mister did something similar to this on Kyrie except in that case the drum parts were all programmed on a drum machine and they were looking for a more realistic drum sound.

[@BobbyHuff]

Very cool. I love Mr Mister!! Thanks Jim.

[@adammurdock4319]

The last few videos did not pop up in my sub box. What a bummer. These snare videos are super cool though! I’m not a drummer so it’s kinda something I neglect to think about whereas I’ll spend a lot more time on guitar setups and vocal mics than I should on drums.

[@BobbyHuff]

Hmmm. Don’t know why they didn’t pop up. Did u ring the bell? Yeah glad ur getting some snare info that you feel is helpful. They do hit twice a measure in most songs so it’s very important to have them sounding killer.

[@davidallenhammond2777]

Excellent. I love these videos; thanks Dr. Bob. I started my self-education in recording tech back in the tape days but only got 'serious' about it (Ha ha) in the digital world. I love the flexibility of Pro Tools etc... but sorry I missed out on exploring all the gymnastics required to get the results that can now be acheived by a couple of keystrokes. But knowing history is important. I mean where would we be if we didn't know about the Napoleonic wars?

[@BobbyHuff]

Haha! Thanks for the kindness and I’m really happy you are enjoying the videos David!

[@mathenoo]

Can you upload those samples for us?

[@BobbyHuff]

Hang on....

[@diazartmovement]

How do you do this with out a computer and a daw

[@BobbyHuff]

Which part in particular are you referring to Diaz?

[@diazartmovement]

@@BobbyHuff referring to tuning the drum and or muffling etc..to get the sound live

[@BobbyHuff]

@@diazartmovement to get the sizzle on the snare drum that Jeff Lynne hated you need to mic the underneath side of the snare drum to get the snare “snap.” Did I answer this correctly Diaz?

[@diazartmovement]

@@BobbyHuff I was thinking like if you were gonna play live and you wanted that jeff lynne snare sound

[@BobbyHuff]

@@diazartmovement oh I see!!! I think u would have to trigger a Jeff Lynne type sample from your snare. I’ve seen him live and it’s not the Jeff Lynne snare sound live. NO DISRESPECT to him in that regard because the show is amazing but a lot of that snare sound is the “boxiness,” of the room that he’s playing the snare in. It would also be possible to have a small room reverb dedicated to your snare in a live Performance. Sorry it took me a couple tries to answer your question. Ha ha

[@RjBenjamin353]

Ridiculous