Excellent video. I served 1996-2002 in the Royal Marines. The hardest thing I ever did in the Corps was remove and replace that damn liner on the CBA system. :)
@EthanThomson4 жыл бұрын
Late Apex was part of the fitness and aptitude test the removal of the liner?
@iitacticalhd66344 жыл бұрын
@@EthanThomson It is obvious. Aptitude test.
@Weaponsandstuff935 жыл бұрын
Very good video but a slight correction, the old Northern Ireland era flak jackets had a ballistic nylon filler rather than kevlar, nowhere near as good in terms of protection hence why the vests were so thick.
@patrickn28584 жыл бұрын
Love your videos mate 👍🏼
@ianmills92663 жыл бұрын
Going to point out that kestrel and osprey were introduced because ecba didn't stop bullets.
@callummason65894 жыл бұрын
What was wrong with chainmail?
@trechtzach81512 жыл бұрын
Chainmail can bind up.
@johnreed83362 жыл бұрын
Not bullet or shrapnel proof maybe ?
@Limescale124 жыл бұрын
IBA
@TheWeeklyLawReports5 жыл бұрын
A very informative and interesting video, you have clearly done your research and your narration is top notch. Thank you!
@YuNOmeme5 жыл бұрын
9:17 best looking desert pattern of its day! Although uncle sams choc chip pattern looked sexy as well!
@xAlexTobiasxB4 жыл бұрын
Hah Gayyyyyy
@grahamconquerghc23584 жыл бұрын
Worst USAs digital cam
@cammid21104 жыл бұрын
Sr.Splittington I got give an ex medics kit when he left the army in 2010 very sexy kit
@Caver4615 жыл бұрын
INIBA - don't recall ever having a way to wash those things. A distinctive stench followed patrols around.
@tomsoki57384 жыл бұрын
Caver461 you can take the liner out it’s just really hard and frustrating to put it back in, trust me haha, you just wash the cover but yeah you can’t wash the liner or plates
@andrewjohnston41275 жыл бұрын
I've also seen photos of British troops wearing US body armour during the Korean war
@geykumethefrog67275 жыл бұрын
Its the same with the white army in the civil war the u.s. and british gave them standard issue gear and weapons
@australianword38125 жыл бұрын
@@geykumethefrog6727 White Army?
@geykumethefrog67275 жыл бұрын
@@australianword3812 the Russians in 1919
@australianword38125 жыл бұрын
@@geykumethefrog6727 then please specify which civil war you're talking about
@geykumethefrog67275 жыл бұрын
@@australianword3812 the russian one shortly after ww1
@kaiusbellum1075 жыл бұрын
ECBA, best bit of warm kit I was ever issued
@CabbageBloke5 жыл бұрын
ECBA under a smock, with Gore Tex over the top is a win.
@phairecouchpotato39125 жыл бұрын
We wear those in the Bermuda Regiment
@tagg9765 жыл бұрын
Especially when wearing you Gortex on top... Boil in the bag or what LOL ;-)
@CabbageBloke5 жыл бұрын
@@BlokeintheUK Most definitely 👍
@clarksavage60505 жыл бұрын
Body Warmour.
@CabbageBloke5 жыл бұрын
The Kestrel Body Armour or as we called it 'Top Cover Body Armour' was first issued with the same plates from the ECBA. We got it first in Iraq on Op Telic 6
@Tremulousnut5 жыл бұрын
Probably talking about the Merlin, Kestrel’s predecessor.
@vectisviking69694 жыл бұрын
I'm wearing it in my pic, had the small ballistic plates front and rear and was a bitch to put on and operate in (Basra 05)
@trechtzach81512 жыл бұрын
@@vectisviking6969 that's Merlin, not the Kestrel. Kestrel are for Osprey plates. Some people had the old Ceradyne plates in them which could stop 50 BMG.
@gordonlawrence47495 жыл бұрын
I didn't realise body armour went all the way back to the 40's. Then again there was some weird stuff in WWI too and if you really want to go nuts they had chainmail in Hastings.
@delta23725 жыл бұрын
They had body armor as far back as WW1
@gordonlawrence47495 жыл бұрын
@@delta2372 I already said that.
@wargey34314 жыл бұрын
Delta 23 and have fun wearing it your most probably more likely to die if you use it than not as most bullets would go through and if they didn’t the spalling would most probably hurt
@georginadove27755 жыл бұрын
In 1970 in ireland we had what we called Flak jackets i am sure at the time they were second hand from the Yanks in Vietnam because some of them had invisible mending bullet holes in them,this is only my observation i could be wrong.
@aaa1119125 жыл бұрын
we (1 para) had the flak jacket type when we first went there in 1969
@paganphil1005 жыл бұрын
John Dove: Yes, most of them were ex-Vietnam. They were designed to stop shrapnel, not bullets.....even a pistol bullet (Browning 9mm) went straight through them at close range as we discovered when we tested one on the ranges in Germany (but at least they kept us warm in Winter).
@georginadove27755 жыл бұрын
@Nik Nik Would you like to elaborate on that.
@georginadove27755 жыл бұрын
@Nik Nik I don't have to do research, i was there wearing one in 1970 with the Royal Greenjackets, what makes you an authority
@georginadove27755 жыл бұрын
Luv u 2 "prick".
@fabianodenatale66815 жыл бұрын
1940: *Error 404, body Armour not found*
@GolfFoxtrotCharlie-gfc5 жыл бұрын
Lmfao
@kwkwkwkw64115 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video on current and/or (possible) future British soldier equipment? Great vids so far :)
@jakeanomics4 жыл бұрын
Really good video. But you didn’t mention a primary design change during the osprey generations, the plate pocket opening was inverted in the MKIII; due to many reasons. Namely the zip rupturing and injuring the face during an IED strike. Shortly followed buy the plate hitting the casualty in the face. In the MKIV it was integrated to provide a relatively flat surface so secondary injury’s from a blast were limited.
@jasb4995 жыл бұрын
Went on to youtube to see how to fix my bike, this was recommended and i thought to myself ehh, im getting modern warfare in a few days might as well freshen up
@ColoursCapello5 жыл бұрын
What's wrong with your bike though?
@jasb4995 жыл бұрын
@@ColoursCapello the chains skipping really bad
@atnorange54915 жыл бұрын
AC 130 INCOMING
@mr.everwind52253 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if I'm about to get r/wooshed but what you said is inadvertently hilarious If you can fix a bike, you can fix a car If you can fix a car, you can fix a tank If you can fix a tank, you can.....
@seumasnatuaighe5 жыл бұрын
Well done on your research. I was issued a Brit vest in 2011 when in Afghan. The vest was dark earth with PALS tapes, velcro and 3 quickloks each side and a break away tab at the throat. The front ceramic plate was 13x11 inch and the back 12x10, both 3D curved. It was very comfortable and easy to configure and adjust. The vest label was gone so I don't know the make or mark but the plates were made in N. Ireland.
@danielwhyatt32785 жыл бұрын
This was the perfect level of informative and monotone.
@colp94925 жыл бұрын
We were issued the kestrel stuff in early 2005 was complete load of crap took 3 people to put it on 1 bloke and then he couldn’t move his arms. Loads of us acquired American interceptor vests
@Tremulousnut5 жыл бұрын
Kestrel and Marlin vests needs breaking in. The reliance of ice packs for cooling is a stupid idea.
@colp94925 жыл бұрын
爾靈山 agreed the idea of ice packs was a joke
@tomsoki57384 жыл бұрын
You mean you knicked them from a humvee! Haha
@thetechoasis21794 жыл бұрын
say what you will about it but it saved my life and deflected 7.62x39 round into my lung and saved my Heart thus saving my life. a collapsed lung vs instant death gives me a massive soft spot for the vest.
@colp94924 жыл бұрын
TheTechOasis the chest plate over our hearts in ECBA front and back is mega that’s why we still use them. The vest design we got issued to try with sawn on arms and a massive neck piece was a load of rubbish. Our top cover lads refused to wear them and went back to standard ECBA vests and plates.
@ThrottleTherapyyy4 жыл бұрын
you would think in 2020 it would all be sorted and there would be a abundance of Body Armour, but even to this day blokes are getting shafted at the QM's and not getting issued Body Armour unless they are on a specific "List" Great video mate
@cdc1944 жыл бұрын
I was in the US Army and was still wearing the M69 (or a very similar variant) in early 2001 as an Infantryman in training. It wasn't until 9/11 that a serious focus on body armor was made and a serious production and fielding effort was made.
@John-ym9ht4 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. It's strange that they didnt just improve upon the best US body armor being used at the time, for their first try. Instead, they kind of reinvented the wheel with 4 or 5 tries. The cost is huge I'm sure but I believe every one our guys need the best protection it's possible to give them
@wargey34314 жыл бұрын
John I think they wanted to go back to the WW2 style with plates in the jackets that may have a chance of stopping bullets to the heart which at the time Kevlar wouldn’t have unless it was a 9mm so developed the armour plates but yea to some extent it does seem silly that they even moved away from the WW2 armour which was reportedly very good although heavy the paras reportedly loved it that would have been much more effective than the standard British reinvention of everything
@dogsnads56344 жыл бұрын
The US was having its own issues with body armour. The original flak jackets weren't much use. It was the development of the ceramic plates that was the game changer. ECBA was very good in its day.
@HTCN-ki3on5 жыл бұрын
You should make a Instagram account. It'll branch out your following and I don't mind shouting you out
@elgatosiesta4 жыл бұрын
In 2004, I had plates made in like the 80’s. They where so heavy, I hated them s.o.b’s😂 U.S.A.F Security Forces here! Great video👍
@littlenemo145 жыл бұрын
We called them ‘flak jackets’ when we had them in Belfast 76 and 78.. Pretty useless to be honest and most of them stunk to high heaven.
@mollysmoshingtankcrew94415 жыл бұрын
I love how the armored divisions first got the body armor Sure give the guy in a tank a vest. *Facepalm* It's a joke.
@davidscoltock39705 жыл бұрын
MollysMoshing TankCrew you do know the core of an armoured division is infantry mounted in apcs right? The armoured divisions would be the spearhead and first to engage and be mobilised. Makes perfect sense for them to get the best gear first.
@G1NZOU5 жыл бұрын
@@davidscoltock3970 plus the fact that mechanised infantry can better cope with having very heavy body armour in addition to their regular gear, since they're riding into battle instead of having to yomp, makes perfect sense that they get the armour that everyone else is complaining is heavy.
@mollysmoshingtankcrew94415 жыл бұрын
@@davidscoltock3970 did you not see the part where I said " it's a joke"
@davewolfy29064 жыл бұрын
@@G1NZOU The Army does not "yomp".
@G1NZOU4 жыл бұрын
@@davewolfy2906 the Paras did in the Falklands.
@lalruatdikavarte79434 жыл бұрын
Nice video and very informative and very entertaining and very satisfaction.
@brendanmatelan21295 жыл бұрын
Just want to point out, the M52 and M69 Vests weren't Kevlar. They were Ballistic Nylon, Kevlar wasn't finalized until the early to mid 70s. It's not until the 1980s that the U.S. would issue the PASGT, which replaced the older Nylon vests.
@gunner6785 жыл бұрын
The flak jackets were absolute rubbish for the purpose for which they were issued. Warm though. The CBA was pretty poor but something I suppose.
@robertbogan2254 жыл бұрын
Flak jackets where issued to plane crews to protect them from flak. Which are a type of antiaircraft guns that fire explosive shells. They worked better then skin.
@tomsoki57384 жыл бұрын
Yeah they are only good for shrapnel and low velocity rounds .22 and maybe a .45acp low velocity but they were good at the job they were made for and saved supposedly 100’s of lives over the cba and ecba’s life
@Jinn1744 жыл бұрын
I have worn the osprey body armour, when you take it off after a few hours of wearing it you feel like you are flying, the version i wore weighed 14kg
@stevenwithanl1154 жыл бұрын
wow
@courageunitycompassi4 жыл бұрын
When we invaded Iraq again I remember stories of parents mailing their kids body armor because the army didn’t have enough.
@somethingelse48783 жыл бұрын
So I was reading a British book from 1947 called with British snipers to the reich A officer said to a soldier in a foxhole "Your looking fat there soldier", he smiled back knowing he was fat because he had stuffed loads of tins of food down his front to stop getting shot. Body armor on the fly
@RichardTuckman4 жыл бұрын
ordered to give up your armor? that's unlawful
@davidmorris17354 жыл бұрын
Still get issued ECBA during basic training, went through in 2018. Best bit of warm kit going.
@echo532262 жыл бұрын
Only shows how ill prepared the British government has been war after war!
@neutralpeace6474 жыл бұрын
its like a balance. the more you carry the more slow you become but the more protected you are
@jamesreno49624 жыл бұрын
Like how you guys listen to your soldiers and change vest every 5 to 10 years, meanwhile in the Canadian Army... we got the same old bulky frag vest from the 80s and shitty tactical vest
@AzureRoseMarshal3 жыл бұрын
Aren’t your helmets still just a copy of a copy of the PASGT, only rated for around 9mm?
@Tremulousnut2 жыл бұрын
@@AzureRoseMarshal Most Military helmets on the planet are only rated for bump and frag, and that’s being generous. Rifle rated helmets are pretty much cutting edge, and there are some teething problems due to the composites used.
@LaunchedHalo5 жыл бұрын
idk why youtube is recommending this to me but i love it
@echo532262 жыл бұрын
Take a look at the Falkland campaign for further confirmation.
@woodybenjam5 жыл бұрын
Your videos are all epic! Great work.
@anon3433 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is the E.C.B.A sounds so Arab when pronounced literally, never realised that until watching this. But in all seriousness keep up the good work man.
@mathewearnshaw82613 жыл бұрын
Prime example of how the British army love to waste money!! Let’s try out a load of crap before selecting something that might pass as ok!! I bought my own body armor which was 10 times better than any of the crap issued up until maybe the most recent body armor
@Dog.soldier19505 жыл бұрын
The Marines issued me a m69 in 73
@АндрейШмырев-л5м4 жыл бұрын
Отличное видео! Прекрасно изложенный материал!!!!
@courageunitycompassi4 жыл бұрын
Crazy idea, why don’t the USA and Brits make the same armor? You are the only country who will follow us in our crusades.
@simonsignolet56323 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing the MRC Body Armour in army surplus stores, back in the 1980s. An unsellable curio, they were about £25-40 IIRC. Can't imagine what they must fetch these days... They were used by Glider Pilots during the flight in. Once landed, I don't think they continued wearing it: it probably went into the bergen. That said, if they wore it under the Dennison Smock, who'd know?
@SteveVi0lence5 жыл бұрын
Great video! I thought it was odd the mod would issue the body armor for right handed shooters (best grip surface) rather than having it on both sides, after y'all do use the L86 bullpup with the charging handle on the right hand side lol
@Tremulousnut5 жыл бұрын
It’s not impossible to fire the SA80 left handed, just not with the standard shooting position. You do it for CQB when you shoot using the EBS.
@EthanThomson4 жыл бұрын
If you fire an SA80 from the normal stance left handed, you lose teeth
@frostywolf86705 жыл бұрын
The British should have joint developed body armor with the US it would have been much better then what they were using
@kellyedmonds47725 жыл бұрын
I love your channel. Interesting content, well researched. Do you have patreon?
@TheLifeOfDan14 жыл бұрын
Great video this! Subbed!
@carljohnson42854 жыл бұрын
Im going to go ahead and say that even the Mk. 3 variant literally slapped all US body armor in the face. With exclusions of the IBA and obvious plate carrier of course
@mixmaster29093 жыл бұрын
I mean not really the first body armor the US implimented was known as the "variable small arms protective vest" first issued in 1965 it used 2 steel plates and was capable of stopping 7.62x39 mm reliably as well as offering fragmentation protection likewise you could also just wear the plates instead of the whole vest offering only small arms protection unfortunately this armor weighed 22 pounds and was hot and trapped moisture so many troops who were issued it decided not to wear it this vest was issued 4 years before the ireland flak vests
@Tremulousnut2 жыл бұрын
@@mixmaster2909 those were ceramic wrapped in fiberglass, not steel.
@johnp52545 жыл бұрын
52 and 69 vests were ballistic nylon not kevlar
@lesaustion4 жыл бұрын
Ya...because kevlars a brand, not a fabric
@tomsoki57384 жыл бұрын
Austin no it wasn’t even a Kevlar like composite aramid it was ballistic nylon, completely different material
@joncawte61504 жыл бұрын
I wore the M69 at various units, on main gate stag, in the mid/late 80s
@Ks-zv6js4 жыл бұрын
Always wondered what it would be like to fill body armour with hand warmers or hot water bottle
@Tremulousnut2 жыл бұрын
You can do the reverse and fill them with ice packs.
@flyingmanforfun4 жыл бұрын
Would have liked to know the protection level of all the plates too
@trechtzach81512 жыл бұрын
The specs doesn't exist, and info requests to the MOD gets shot down. The only vests with written specs are Aegis Engineering vests issued to the RMP and the MOD Police.
@moj62415 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, the MK 4 Osprey was first issued in DDPM but in extremely low numbers, there are videos and pictures of this, then the MK4 was issued in a Tan drab colour, before finally being replaced in MTP
@Tremulousnut5 жыл бұрын
@Gareth Fairclough MK4 did come in a variety of colours. Solid tan, desert DPM, and 2 shades of MTP. Supposedly there is a hybrid out there.
@andrewsmall68345 жыл бұрын
Pretty sad that the bastard son, (us Australians) have way better body armour than mother England.
@dashans61754 жыл бұрын
5:50 This sounds a bit like survivorship bias. Wasn't there something similar with Planes in WW2?
@otten56663 жыл бұрын
How are you making that connection? If it were the same situation the first proposals for body armor would be for the legs and arms since that is where the bullet holes are on the patients in the hospital. People have had a pretty good idea where the vulnerable parts of the human body are long before body armor became a possiblity....
@dashans61753 жыл бұрын
@@otten5666 I do not exactly remember what I meant exactly but I guess it had something todo with the type of injury. In retrospect I see that my comment is not very precise and technically bullshit.
@Tremulousnut2 жыл бұрын
@@dashans6175 I can see where you are going, but you probably should have thought it through. We have new studies on that topic which shows that the the introduction of armour does increase survivability. The question is more to do with the level of coverage, and with increased coverages, you need to consider reducing protection level on component to reduce weight and heat stress.
@scottw00284 жыл бұрын
I love how the osprey mk4 looks
@comradepierogi4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it’s pretty neat. Has lots of place for pouches and stuff. However it’s empty weight is ~2kg, add kevlar, plates and magazines, and you’re carrying 10+ kilograms of weight, of not more.
@tomsoki57384 жыл бұрын
I’ve got one of those buggers, the most bulky body armour I own and I own almost all of the ones on this video, trust me it’s not fun to wear for long
@a.n.l.aantineoliberalismas45044 жыл бұрын
We don't need body armour we don't Evian need to send troops anywhere We just let the Americans do it
@mahechfc4 жыл бұрын
Traian Daoaga Seriously? Just let the Americans do it? God no, the UK and USA are very close allies and we've already had enough casualties in Iraq, etc. So we can't just let it carry on, can't spell even right either way, “Evian.”
@CadiasFinest4 жыл бұрын
Evian is a brand of water. Think you mean "even"
@HTCN-ki3on5 жыл бұрын
The intro😮😮
@crowman89145 жыл бұрын
I think it was fucked up they made the tank operator give his issued vest to another unit and later died from wounds.
@robertbogan2254 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of starship troopers when they are training and the one guy takes off his helmet and gets his head blown off.
@curt69263 жыл бұрын
Well no disrespect to the tankie, but I do think its more important a close combat unit like the infantry probably need it more
@johnreed83362 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the British Army .
@polecatfan16275 жыл бұрын
Here I am with an old gen 3 IOTV (Not in the US military)
@dirkbruere3 жыл бұрын
I look at the crap that has been issued over the decades and as an engineer wonder the people who designed it did not wear it themselves in a military role before issueing it, or get some ordinary soldiers to use it first. I assume they would say that they did, but if so something was clearly missing.
@pcarrierorange2 жыл бұрын
It’s definitely an interesting balance to strike between comfort+mobility, and protection. Even the ultra sleek modern “plate carriers” with no kevlar and just smallish front and back ceramic plates still impede mobility, and they’re definitely still uncomfortable, whilst providing practically no protection from fragmentation on account of the absence of kevlar.
@Gen1sisKSW5 жыл бұрын
A brilliant and well researched video. However, when speaking of the Mk4 you missed the Mk4A which saw use in the later Herricks, and use until replaced with the Virtus kit. All in, great video and brought back some memories of wearing the Mk4A out there.
@mac45645 жыл бұрын
Gen1sis It was the mk6 we had, the mk6a came in during the later Herricks. I was on Herrick 11 with a mk6a and we got issued the mk7 towards the back of that tour as our tour rolled over into the first 2 months of Herrick 12.
@Gen1sisKSW5 жыл бұрын
No, I'm talking about the Mk4 Osprey, not the Mk4 "turtle" helmet. There wasn't much of a difference between the two. The Mk4A fastened differently on the front with an extra Velcro flap that closed the armour, as aposed to the two clips on the Mk4. I was issued the Mk4A on Herrick 19. Maybe I'm mistaken by the designation though and we just unofficially called it the Mk4A?
@commando5525 жыл бұрын
@@Gen1sisKSW What you are describing with the velcro flap is not a different vest, it is just a different way of configuring it. The fold down panel at the front that covers the velcro is called the "Ops Panel" and can be used with just that, and is the most streamlined version of the Mk4. On top of this you can add stand alone side plate bags but these are very clunky, a better solution being to use the cummerbunds (with built in side plate pouches) which attach at the back and wrap around to the front to fasten with the two clips. I don't think there is a difference between the Mk4 and Mk4A (or if there is it is very minor and to do with construction methods), this designation was mainly because they started issuing new pouches with it.
@non-masturbatingtyrannosau34764 жыл бұрын
The only difference between mk4 and mk4a is the left shoulder, on the mk4a it has molle on left shoulder while the mk4 doesn't
@trechtzach81512 жыл бұрын
@@commando552 it is a different vest. There were some changes in design and manufacturer. For one they changed from Solo to CQC.
@ColourOfTheGods Жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to cover the UKSF body armour systems in terms of the Paraclete systems/Gentex helmets, etc..
@adamritchie34814 жыл бұрын
This man has the smoothest voice
@pcat13784 жыл бұрын
Tank crews also got issued a role specific cover for the ECBA which allowed them to carry a pistol and mags, with pockets for a 'bug out kit' as Tank crews cannot wear webbing when mounted. This was mainly issued only to the commander of the vehicle.
@leoastner8885 жыл бұрын
Did I see a Sterling at 3:40?
@Peoples_Republic_of_Devonshire5 жыл бұрын
Yes and it was glorious
@jordanjolley7 ай бұрын
Boggles me that In ww2 the only “armour” was a helmet nuts to even think about running into battle with nothing to protect you with except your skill with a weapon
@1brytol3 жыл бұрын
Mistake: INIBA and earlier vests weren't kevlar, but ballistic nylon. CBA was the first British Kevlar vests
@benjaminmoogk35312 жыл бұрын
Was the MRC Vests the same ones issued for the attack on Verrier Ridge and for Operation Totalize in Normandy?
@williamgillbanks46624 жыл бұрын
British Soldiers did not have Body armour in the 1950s when i was in the Army in 1954, if there was any no Soldier i knew had any.
@mickwful4 жыл бұрын
I was issued a flack vest in 1969.
@trumanhw3 жыл бұрын
A+++. Very informative. Thanks!!
@justryan64804 жыл бұрын
Anybody know what body armour the Pathfinders use?
@trechtzach81512 жыл бұрын
Ops Core helmets and Crye stuff, they've been seen in a variety of Crye plate carriers depending on the role.
@jed-henrywitkowski64705 жыл бұрын
Is there any cases documented of the body armor preventing lethal injury during the Second World War?
@robertwilliams28505 жыл бұрын
jed-henry Witkowski yes. American bomber crews wore early flak jackets that stopped many anti aircraft shell splinters.
@MsMysteryman1235 жыл бұрын
In so many of these videos it’s mentioned thing had to be updated due to complaints from soldiers... do they not ask actual soldiers who should have to live with them what they think before sending them out? Can’t understand why they would go ahead without testing day to day wearability etc. First
@GolfFoxtrotCharlie-gfc5 жыл бұрын
Lol that's the military in a nut shell. Pretty much all militaries are like that. A group of people in a controlled facility create something, have some troops use it in a fairly controlled simulation and go, meh, that's good enough and press it into service, later to find that it doesn't actually work. Like the US armys UCP pattern. (What a joke) Look at the UK with their land rovers and the US with the Humvees, the troops in the field pleaded and begged for better vehicles and it took years and years before they got some new vehicles that weren't glorified cars. The troops who actually use the gear are usually ignored because tweaking or creating new gear costs that moneyz.
@Tremulousnut5 жыл бұрын
It's hard to find faults between soldiers complaining because they don't know better, and legitimate concerns. Sometimes kit is updated due to oversights, for example the Osprey was based on a much earlier design used by the MOD Police - Blast wasn't a concern for police so the plates were retained in a zippered pocket. No one had the foresight to know that zippers (even quality YKK ones) could split in a blast, and send the plate flying into the wearer's head. There's also public concerns. Armour is worn for protection, but that protection comes with weight. One could argue for reducing protection to reduce weight, but no one wants to be the one accountable when someone was killed because the portion downsized is where the casualty suffered a fatal wound. It's easy to hush away SF guys dying because their Ops Core helmet didn't cover their ears, but the regular soldier dying because he worn a para helmet instead of the issue bowler would end up as a scandal.
@PaddyInf4 жыл бұрын
They test them with Infantry Trials and Development Unit (ITDU) and get feedback from experienced soldiers as part of the trials. However the feedback is often disregarded due to cost, contract or manufacturing reasons. Also, as some of these were purchased as Urgent Operational Requirements (UOR) they don't go through the lengthy trials system and are fielded as they come, hence the frequent upgrades.
@robertwilliams28503 жыл бұрын
The M1952 and M69 had Ballistic Nylon filler not Kevlar.
@ualuuanie5 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for people to introduce a full exo skeleton
@Tremulousnut2 жыл бұрын
Batteries and software is a big issue. A lot of exoskeletons don’t work anatomically or adjust to the body enough for user comfort.
@steveswitzer43535 жыл бұрын
Class keep it up i know the 1970s one well from NI
@malcolm36645 жыл бұрын
Our body armour in the Australian army is one of the best of the best saved my life 3 times
@tech9auto2234 жыл бұрын
There was soldiers in Ukraine wearing British body armor I think it was the osprey even had the British soldiers details still written on it wondering how they got them ?
@garwhittaker37433 жыл бұрын
Surplus
@dogsnads56342 жыл бұрын
UK Government sent 4,000 vests over around 2015 I believe.
@big-chunguswiththeglizzy6853 жыл бұрын
he should talk about the actual plates used not just carrier
@trechtzach81512 жыл бұрын
There is little to no technical info about the actual plates, the MOD doesn't publish that sort of data. The only data on armor with info is the Ceradyne 12.7mm (50 cal) plates and the stuff used by the RMP/MOD Police, because the specs are on the labels.
@Bevsworld045 жыл бұрын
BrAvO sIx
@loganbaileysfunwithtrains6063 жыл бұрын
Crazy to see pictures of British soldiers not wearing any body armor in 2000’s Iraq, guess it just shows the difference in budget spending, most US state guards had some form of body armor by the late 1990s.
@garwhittaker37433 жыл бұрын
Most did.
@JJ-xe2gr5 жыл бұрын
Top quality as always
@deanregan70114 жыл бұрын
No body armour in the Falklands war.
@PTQ4Q4Q4Q45 жыл бұрын
Good video, very informative.
@-lightningwill-60145 жыл бұрын
The M69 jacket was American that's probably why it didn't do too well during the troubles.....
@Chironex_Fleckeri5 жыл бұрын
It really wasn't designed for that environment. I'm sure it was god awful. You'd want an M69 in Vietnam, where wood splinters and metal fragments were a very real threat. In Ireland? Probably not that useful.
@-lightningwill-60145 жыл бұрын
@@Chironex_Fleckeri car bombs and multiple primitive explosives were used and supplied by the US and that's why the IRA had so many M16s and M60s
@freakdog5 жыл бұрын
Pronounce T H correctly ....
@leod-sigefast4 жыл бұрын
I know right. Spoils the video because he sounds dim with that heavily cockney front-f-ing. Good content though.
@duncandunn19305 жыл бұрын
Nice to see pwo in film
@SuperTyrannical14 жыл бұрын
"vast majority claimed by the RAF" That part confused me, why would you give most of the body armour to the fly boys over the ground troops? Pretty stupid decision IMO. :/
@TheLifeOfDan14 жыл бұрын
SuperTyrannical1 As an Airman myself, it makes no sense whatsoever hahah
@tomsoki57384 жыл бұрын
Because it wouldn’t stop rifle rounds which was the ground troops secondary problem but it was great at stopping flak from injuring your pilots if they were shot by aa guns
@shinrakitsune49675 жыл бұрын
Great video bro well made and presented.
@shaker98034 жыл бұрын
You've forgotten the Italian Arditi armor 1914 - 1918.
@tomsoki57384 жыл бұрын
Libyan god damn gangster that sounds interesting, I’ve never heard of it. Do you have a link or something, I’m just interested!
@teancrumpets56855 жыл бұрын
What about AFV crewman vests?its different from all of this...
@Tremulousnut5 жыл бұрын
Slightly different, with pouches and 2 flaps to prevent snag when pouches not in use. Same fillers though.
@warriorcanuck6974 жыл бұрын
They had very limited leather vests in the great war m8
@TrueChell4 жыл бұрын
Oh, so the brits also had the attitude of trying to design it from the ground up, all by themselves, even though the designs were terrible one after another. The US had much better systems in use, and were apparently decade ahead already in the 90's. My country of Finland also has this attitude problem. The newest brit vest is really good though, except for the little detail of "preventing the soldier from aiming he's weapon." Who the hell designed the hard plastic clip to be on the right side?! On the exact spot, you need to put your rifle butt to??! In a military with right handed only rifles no less.
@EthanThomson4 жыл бұрын
Thats not the newest vest. It hasnt been used in nearly a decade
@Tremulousnut2 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about? A lot of their stuff are based on Vietnam era American hand-me-downs. Osprey descended from the Vietnam era Ground Troops armour, which Britain made their own domestic covers for.