body trends are exhausting (buccal fat removal & more) | Internet Analysis

[@tiffanyferg]

hi hi!! welcome to the new year! I'm back with a discussion of buccal fat removal, plastic surgery, and body 'trends' -- let's discuss! (with compassion lmao)

[@darrellm9915]

This type of procedure is usually only recommended by surgeons if their fat pads are larger than normal, and don't change much with weight loss or aging. The problem is, most that undergo this end up looking gaunt because they aren't the right candidates in the first place. But I think if people really want it, then a partial removal would look much more natural than taking the entire thing out lol. That's why it makes some people look old.

[@kristinaisakovic1026]

Tiffany, I don't usually comment but I have to say this is one of your best videos so far! I really appreciate your honesty with your thoughts on plastic surgery ❤️

[@franziskakaffee5797]

I am always so shocked when pretty women like you suggest they think about operations and do not feel pretty. I would kill to look like you. You are very pretty. Thank you for your content, I enjoy your videos a lot. They are always so thoughtful and clever.

[@angela9226]

Enjoyed this vid and your honesty on being hard on yourself, contributing and living with the beauty standards. The line between self imposed or pressured externally?

[@penelopepegg7834]

"Oh you're a bad feminist" 15:51 I think the popular show Fleabag hits it on the nail (Although it takes some thinking from the audience to get there) feminism is choice. If you chose to change your looks for you that's your business. I know you said you're well aware of it really but I wanted to make it clear this is an opinion from someone in your audience who enjoys your content. End of the day cosmetic surgery or fillers are body modifications. The same as tattoos or piercings. Obviously they have a different world around them but I think through these comparisons it helps normalise the other side as most people are okay with at least one of them. I think prejudice makes us feel guilty for wanting a type of body modification as well as women wanting to set an example for other women. I digress lol

[@PaperParade]

You know, the nice thing about being poor is that I can’t even afford to take part in these trends. I’m forced to learn how to accept myself as I am.

[@dj_bae]

I’m terrified of general anesthesia and surgeries so I choose not to take part. I don’t know how people do it.

[@borkbork4124]

I am a natural beauty and a minimalist. Not by choice, I am just ✨working class✨

[@brycebeverly9537]

Same. I don’t trend cycle because I can’t and honestly I’m better off for it.

[@chaaaargh]

@k f exactly the same for me lol

[@BrandiG31]

Same lmao I don't even bother dreaming about plastic surgery

[@Sugarypop13]

“Inventing insecurities” is such a well articulated phenomenon

[@SavannahVu1985]

Well said, I couldn’t agree with you more.

[@asana_awakening]

This! I never knew my hooded eyes were a “problem” until someone else tried to tell me it was 😂

[@matildalitsey143]

​@@asana_awakening may I ask what hooded eyes are? 🙂

[@Sugarypop13]

@@asana_awakening lol right. Same. 😭😭 likeeee

[@PeterParker-ff7ub]

people make up things for us to be ashamed about when its a problem for other people

[@joannaellis7890]

The idea of a body trend cycle reminds of me of Bernadette Banner's videos where she talks about how in the 1800s people conformed to fashionable silhouettes by changing CLOTHES (corset shape, strategic padding, hoop skirts, etc.) while nowadays people conform to those trends by changing their actual BODIES

[@littleguy8714]

true, it was about the silhouette and still is.. yeesh

[@frankie1233]

I remember another historical fashion youtuber (can't remember who atm) said even though wearing corsets and padding etc was more uncomfortable physically than modern day clothes like leggings, she was a lot more comfortable mentally as her body wasn't on show and when her weight fluctuated she could still fit into the same clothes and would just modify padding or her corset. But now clothes don't give room/leeway for changing bodies or weights, even though it's perfectly natural, so people resort to diets and surgeries, like you said. It's not a surprise cosmetic surgeries are more popular because of what you said - we now expect our constantly changing bodies to fit into constantly changing trends, without the help of clothes.

[@historicallyaccurate13]

@@frankie1233 that was Abby Cox

[@mastersnet18]

@@littleguy8714and yet when it’s simply clothes that change it’s far more freeing and healthy for us.

[@saberg1082]

I loved that video! 😊

[@daisyprayers]

My first thought whenever I see a procedure like this is “that’s probably a part of your body for a reason and should stay where it is”.

[@shawnmac7046]

My thoughts exactly!!

[@DrLaraZib]

Haha, exactly!!!!

[@chipbuttytime3396]

a bit like eyebrows

[@bee420.69]

@@chipbuttytime3396 except only 1 grows back

[@astridhannestad8323]

Same, I was like this might be useful. Maybe having fat near your teeth, you know the only part of your body that doesn’t repair itself, is really important

[@Nalanzazu]

I have to admit that this Buccal fat removal trend only recently reached me. And it really really triggered me. When my aunt was dying of cancer and completely wasting away, she was still cracking jokes to try to lighten the mood. She was joking about finally getting the cheek bones she always dreamed of. But the truth was that her body was so consumed that she didn't have any fat left, even in her face. She died within a month. I truly can't look at these gaunt "snatched" faces without grieving her.

[@tarotofmylife3331]

I’m so sorry to hear that 😢 please accept my condolences. Hope you feel better ❤️‍🩹

[@tomburt709]

Hope you're doing well ❤ :)

[@BriannaVore]

i'm so sorry for your lost and hope you're doing well 🫂

[@meeunice]

I'm ready for body neutrality. Just let people be themselves. Whether fat or skinny or inbetween. We're tired.

[@katie9348]

YES! IM TIRED! Body neutrality please

[@benjamindover4337]

Whats stoopping you from accepting your body as it is? I mean besides the thought of dying alone.

[@Martina_E]

Right

[@hifellowhumans8393]

Preach

[@stitches768]

Yeah can we just be cool with looking different from others ffs

[@charissesjournal]

i saw a comment on another video once that said, "being okay with your face and body is the strongest form of anti-capitalism" and i haven't been the same since

[@tiffanyferg]

It is very powerful!

[@luzvazquez4189]

It's indeed powerful but placing that much importance into personal choices kinda makes it easy for us to avoid community organization and the things revolution needs. Don't get me wrong, it is important to accept our faces and bodies, it's however, not revolutionary. It's just a start and it shouldn't be promoted as salvation for all.

[@charissesjournal]

@@luzvazquez4189 that's a really valid point! i'm glad you brought that up bc you're def right, it takes an organized community effort for many changes to be truly revolutionary. now that i think abt it i can see how my original comment may suggest the responsibility of the individual, and i don't want to insinuate that

[@bro.that.is.adorable.2633]

Pretty sure my mom’s “buccal fat” is what keeps her looking fairly young as a nearly 70-year-old woman

[@caseyw.6550]

100%

[@anapinket]

Absolutely, people's faces actually get more "hollow" with age. That's the very reason for people to use fillers. Also, I've always had hollow cheeks naturally and the amount of s*it I've gotten over the years for "looking like a skeleton" is insane. And now people are getting surgery for that? Insane. What will happen in five years when the trend changes?

[@nailinthefashion]

Oh wow, this is the best tea I've ever had!

[@caseyw.6550]

@@anapinket These rich people will just pay to get it fixed. The privilege of having no consequences for your choices...

[@lavendervvitch99]

Yeah my mom is 68 but no one ever guesses that. She's never had any cosmetic procedures but she wears SPF and takes care of her skin

[@louie3074]

you could definitely talk about orthorexia and the "gym bro" obsession with "health" (which is actually just disordered eating in many cases.) as a dude ive watched it basically ruin the lives of a few of my friends, with how much time they spend working out and obsessing over how they look. I feel like that gym culture of extreme "health", along with the whole pilates-and-green-juice-that-girl-aesthetic thing doesn't get talked about very much but its so harmful

[@juliee593]

You're right, it's so worrying how steroid pumped bodies are somehow presented as healthy and achievable, and dystopian to see people obsess over their body fat % like it's a character stat in a video game. But the worst thing about this is that almost no one challenges this mentality.

[@verticalboom6894]

Agree, me and my boyfriend loved going to the gym together but it spiraled for us both. I forced myself to eat way too much to gain muscle and he would take an insane amounts of pre-workout which increased stress and decreased his ability to sleep. We both had to back down and realize that we cannot be this obsessed with reaching the ”perfect” sculpted body. We also compared old pictures of ourselves to newer ones, the difference was insane. We were both much more buff and defined but we were MORE insecure than ever. People need to talk more about the whole gym bro trend, everyone always dismisses it as it’s supposedly good to go to the gym and build muscle..

[@Bun_Bun51]

I've been seeing it a LOT on Instagram of usually men standing next to a video someone who is usually (not always) a feminist, gay, or "ugly" as in they wear a lot of colors or seem like a child, with the caption saying basically "go to the gym". Not only are these individuals harassing other people, they make jokes about not seeking therapy or having friends, and the gym is the only thing they have, or that chicken and rice start to taste like gravel (in a joking sense) which REALLY worries me for these ppl.

[@marymurphy1877]

as someone who wants to have a child possibly one day, I always think about how if you've changed your whole face or gotten rid of your insecurity (like nose or chin or something) if you have a kid they can very likely have all those features that you've gotten rid of. just perpetuating that cycle. how do you explain to your kid that you had their nose and you hated it so much you spent thousands to get rid of it? I think when we look beyond ourselves and see that same feature on those we love- we can better learn to recognize that those features connect us in so many ways. my round face connects me to my mom. I have tiny eyelids that you can't do any eye makeup on, and its just like my sisters and my grandmas. faces are more than aesthetics.

[@missburn]

Interesting point regarding a potential baby having the same features.

[@crustaceanstation1491]

I've thought the same thing. I don't like my nose because it's so sharp and makes my face look more masculine ...but thats MY nose that my dad's side of the family also has. It's my tie to them after getting married and when I do have kids, I hope one of them has it.

[@thatonedog819]

I don't even want kids and got fixed, but I feel the same way. I know if something happens and my surgery fails and I get pregnant, I will love my child and would never want them to feel ugly because I got rid of those key features.

[@Gaby-fb7gh]

This is what stops me from getting plastic surgery. How do you tell your kid you changed an aspect of yourself that they also have? I would never want to make them feel bad.

[@lacyroberts8229]

ER nurse here! When the BBL trend was in full swing, I had 3 different patients who came in for complications. All three required IV antibiotics for septic infections. All of them had to lay on their stomachs for months because of the pain it had caused them.

[@Youtubeuser10873]

I’m sorry that’s embarrassing

[@kiaharper7172]

Yup. I had 2 poor ladies. Septic AF.

[@kiaharper7172]

@KZbin user maybe for the patient but not for nurses lol

[@anjaleen8]

I wouldn't be surprised if they still thought it was worth it. The pressure to be beautiful and therefore accepted and loved is very intense.

[@nineteenfortyeight]

They were lucky. It's one of the most deadly cosmetic procedures.

[@slangoognals]

My biggest beef with plastic surgery is when people deny getting it, and then use their artificial appearance for social or financial gain under the claim that it came from something else, whether it's genetics or a product. We still don't know the extent of how fake the Kardashians are because they refuse to confess to more than 1 simple procedure each, and their looks are their brands so they wildly profit off the dishonesty. I can't blame someone for doing something that they believe will make them happier, but I fully blame them for muddying vulnerable people's connection to reality.

[@Ranixo286]

Yeah the whole "just follow my workout routine and diet to get this look" when in reality you paid thousands of dollars for it.

[@flyingwaytooclosetothesun]

as an ED survivor, the gaunt look is something I used to strive for (and struggle with even now), accepting your body the way it is is so hard. Even painful sometimes. I wish it were easier,, I’m so proud of the ppl fighting these trends

[@b.b.8955]

You are brave and beautiful. Keep fighting. Learning to love yourself as you are can sometimes be the hardest lesson in life (when it should be the easiest) especially with societal standards the way they are. Just remember that there will always be a thousand Kim K’s and Bella Hadid’s, but there is only one YOU so rock what you’ve got and be proud to be you. Best wishes - ❤

[@pipsli]

I relate to this so much, thank u for commenting

[@Aquaaaaa777]

I’m so proud of you for overcoming a eating disorder because it is not easy at all I hope you’re doing well today!!! 🫶🏾🫶🏾🫶🏾💗💗💗

[@rosamy2017]

I’ve been thinking a lot about the very young pictures of Angelina Jolie and Kim Kardashian. They had chipmunk cheeks and they were gorgeous! They still are. Both are beautiful.

[@Angela1111122222]

Tbh I used to struggle with ED that was connected to my heavy mental issues and punishing myself rather than aesthetics, but then I got out of it and started being healthy weight and now it feels like I'm about to get an ED based on that any time soon with this culture Thx for wanting me to starve society, very cool

[@lynnburdick7255]

I just turned 60 this year and it's true about losing cheek fat. My face has thinned considerably over the years (I've also been a runner for the last 15 years) so getting this procedure done is just setting yourself up for future disappointment. Worry less about your looks and more about engaging with life - find happiness in things you do and accomplish and being with people you love.

[@DrLaraZib]

100%

[@christinekoper2407]

Well said! ❤

[@moeezS]

"One surgery doesn't change the world, but the culmination of lots of individual choices contributes to major societal shifts and beauty standards." Very reflective and nuanced approach to this topic, and yes attacking people's looks if they've had the surgery just perpetuates harm and feeds back into the unhealthy beauty standards.

[@pokelover02]

I’m so glad she said this. I feel like everyone else on KZbin has been skirting around it

[@Porcelynnn]

It’s a vicious cycle. Trends just have to start with one person doing it.

[@geofferypmeyers]

Re: choosing to have plastic surgery. I had a 70 pound weight loss and was really struggling with the loose skin. My amazing doctor recommended I see a therapist to sort out my decision to get loose skin removal. It took me about 2 years to make the decision to get a tummy tuck and boob lift, and I am so happy I did it. The therapist and I talked through a LOT of body stuff and I decided that body autonomy was very important to me, and that doing the skin removal was important to me to close that chapter of my life. I’m so happy with my decision and so happy I got therapy before, during, and after ❤

[@catvalentine4317]

That sounds like the healthiest possible approach to that and I'm glad that you are dping well :)

[@taylorrae3947]

So glad you worked with a therapist! Body dysmorphia can continue evolving, which is what I see in all the celebrities getting more and more work done as they get older. What about the condition where you can't remember your original face? Your situation I would support immediately, especially with the therapy. It's people responding to their body dysmorphia while ignoring it that I worry about. Anyways, happy you're happy! Thanks for sharing your story ❤️

[@sydnerxx]

This is a scenario where it makes sense to have a cosmetic procedure.

[@josspa6558]

That's amazing! I think every plastic surgeon who does elective surgeries should demand the patients to go to therapist first, at least for couple sessions to make sure the issue is not deeper, because we see people who isn't happy with their looks ever and don't look even human anymore and if they had had therapy before every surgery, at least some of them would have been preventable! And it's sad that young and beautiful people are cutting themselves surgery after surgery and nothing is enough, that is not adjusting your appearance, it's trying to fix your mental problems/body dysmorphia/insecurities by plastic surgery and it just can not work! If you do it for right reasons it can work and it can make you happier.. and I 'm not trying to say loose skin removal surgery wouldn't be totally needed for some people, because too much extra skin may cause health issues too, but many many other plastic surgeries are totally unnecessary for most people and can not fix the deeper issues that causes the feeling of need for the surgery. I'm so happy for you that you had a good doctor who thinks about their patients wellbeing and not only the payment for as many procedures as possible. And it makes me really happy to hear that both have helped you and you are happy! I would be really happy to hear more stories like yours! 😊

[@aeoligarlic4024]

This is actually the case where plastic surgery is necessary and not some trend to pass around

[@Jen-hi2tg]

I've always had a round face and my whole life I wanted to remove my buccal fat because I didn't like the shape of my face... but this trend made me realise how much I preferred the celebrities with their natural face. It's scary to see all those stars doing it, especially because they already have a pretty thin face. They suddenly look like skeletons and unnatural. They all end up with the same face, it's just sad.

[@natatatt]

There's a recent video by Dr. Gary Linkov on KZbin that talks about how buccal fat removal is a bad idea as buccal fat actually makes you look youthful and removing it can make people look gaunt when they're older. So your rounder face will probably mean you will look more youthful than your peers as you age. : )

[@mindys5555]

Honestly, same! It's an insecurity I've had since I was a young kid & everyone talked about my "chipmunk cheeks." I actually feel a bit better seeing what the alternative generally looks like

[@legsorcist]

I’m the same way!! It helped me realize after a decade of wanting surgery that my face was just not built to look like that and I honestly wouldn’t want it to, hopefully more people are able to recognize this and not succumb to the increasingly drastic beauty trends we’re seeing

[@YourMajesty143]

Honestly, there's only one person it looked good on and that was John Legend's wife (I forgot her name - and idc to know, so no need to remind me). She didn't just have chipmunk cheeks, but also a super wide face that distracted from her other features. I can see where buccal fat removal makes sense for a FEW people with disposable income, but for the majority it's unnecessary. Also, most take out too much, despite there being an option to remove only a part of the fat out. There's also mandibular fat removal. Many people end up regretting the buccal fat procedure they'd done, only to realize what they should've removed was the fat behind the buccal area. The buccal fat is what makes everyone look youthful as we age - - it's actually the jowl fat in the jaws (mandibular area) that makes everyone look older, no matter what their age. On me, they jut out when I smile and make my face look square. I plan on keeping them tho, bc they go away when I lose weight and will probably appear less severe if I ever plan to do a (subtle) face lift in my 60s, which btw is the only surgery worth investing in if the goal is to look youthful (according to Lorry Hill). Until then, I wear my hair around my face. Cheap and simple.

[@chidiogoikeh4550]

@@n48_art they don’t all want to be seen as “cute” tho. That’s probably why so many of them hate it

[@katarinahatch]

"Thinness" being back is really scaring me as a 20 year old college student. I can't imagine being an 14 year old on the forefront of watching Kim Kardashian reduce her size and cosmetic surgery being normalized. When that woman said she was "tired" of these body trends, I completely agree. I love my body the way it is right now and I am trying to keep it that way... i might do another tiktok break :)

[@chidiogoikeh4550]

Skinny girls were struggling during this era too. Yet nobody cares 🤷🏾‍♀️. It’s a cycle and it never stops. There’s no point being scared that the thinness trend is gonna hurt some girls now when the trend of the last decade was also hurting people

[@Sarah-oy2lr]

@@chidiogoikeh4550I get what you’re saying, but I think it’s ok to talk about how these things scare us personally based on our backgrounds. I was a tall and slightly chubby kid/young teen, and growing up at the late stage of the thigh gap/tumblr pro-ana era heavily contributed to my eating disorder, that I’m only now recovering from. I empathise with OP, I’m terrified for young girls like me :( and for everyone pressured to fulfil ever changing beauty trends. Treating bodies like fashion trends hurts everyone sadly

[@y2craze]

Sorry but I’m a guy so enlightening me thinness went away? I don’t really remember a time we’re being thin wasn’t in anymore or did I miss something?.

[@kolkasia302]

@@y2craze I think they mean the big butt and big boob trend vs skinny/thin less curves look.

[@spntageous5249]

honestly I am not even on tiktok so I didn't know the buccal fat remover was a thing, but like, damn, good for me!

[@Monicalia]

I used to hate my nose and wanted a nose job so bad. I promised myself to get one when I got older. However, I got older and...completely forgot about that goal. I mean, I still didn't like my nose but I simply stopped caring about it. I unintentionally accepted my nose and now I don't want any procedure anymore. I understand that sometimes surgeries can improve the quality of our lives (or genuinely make us look better), but doing them just for the temporaty and constantly changing trends is a giant mistake. Now we want thin cheeks, what if that buccal fat is considered attractive in the next couple of months? I don't care which part of my body is The Ugly Part of The Month. My body is not made of plasticine, and I will not change it for social media strangers.

[@DrLaraZib]

This is so cool!

[@milenka4782]

Same, my nose is wide, but I don't care anymore, I feel it fits with all my face features. The "trends" are crazy, a while back people were injecting their faces with fillers for "youth" now they want gaunt faces 🙄 whatever, the celebs can injecting, operating their everything every month, I won't follow. It's just very harmful for young, impressionable people...

[@emmyjulianne6850]

This is how I was with a breast augmentation. I really really wanted to get my boobs done, I would sit there and analyze if they got bigger week to week, I did growth massages, etc etc. at like 11/12 years old. Now I’m in my 20s and my chest was still growing at 21. I wish I could go back in time and tell myself to chill out lol

[@drunkhyena]

one thing that always helps me ground myself when I get overwhelmed and sad looking at insanely beautiful people in media, is thinking about people I have been attracted to or in love with. all people I think are beautiful (also wonderful, smart, kind etc), and none of them look like influencers or movie stars. which does not make them any less beautiful or attractive to me. and the same goes for me, and for you!!

[@flonny1340]

Same

[@LivvyBooks]

Thank you for this reminder!

[@wiltedspinachcat3472]

it always helps when i get off my phone and go out in public and see how normal looking and "non-perfect" everyone is and how i love that about them! it would be so boring if we all looked alike. i love people's round faces and double chins and zits and all the things. on days when im online wayyy too many hours, the insecurities creep in again so quickly but quietly its wild.

[@amberblack6908]

Seeing people with those plastic surgeries in person helps too! Saw one lady in the store and I couldn't take my eyes off her.. in a bad way. 😬 very unnatural looking.

[@Analaya749]

@@amberblack6908 seriously! Lip injections look awful in real life. Same with beat face kind of makeup. A lot of people online look good because of angles, lighting, and editing. But once they walk out into the natural sunlight…horrendous lol

[@navarenaud9825]

💯

[@haute03]

Honestly, this. People really need to touch grass. Not to be rude, but these insecurities are fed and, at times, inspired by social media. Also, what looks cool on social media can look very odd in real life. I've seen people with BBLs, lots of fillers, etc., and let's just say that they look very strange walking around among people who have not had those cosmetic treatments and procedures done.

[@MonicaLethbridge]

Yes!!! Sometimes being online we can go out and seek out these things and our minds can become oversaturated with it and then you go out and public and at least for me I’m not really paying too much attention what other people look like or are wearing I be trying to get my own stuff done. maybe I might notice this persons hair looks pretty or I like the outfit they’re wearing but it’s usually for 5 seconds then I go about my day

[@abbysc417]

I’m only 25 and I already have beauty burnout. My organic self is cute as hell and I have no desire to spend another 60+ years trying to mold myself into boxes.

[@peterg7764]

I’m sure beauty is still important to you as you mention how your natural appearance is attractive. It’s okay hun, we’re all human and want to look good 😁

[@Lovecove4]

I can definitely relate to that.

[@marnenotmarnie259]

beauty burnout?? i haven't heard that term before. it sounds like you're describing self confidence though? burnout has some negative connotations so i'm curious if beauty burnout is a common term /gen (i really hope this doesn't come off as rude or aggressive at all, i am genuinely wondering)

[@abbysc417]

@@peterg7764 I guess I mean beauty trend burnout. I have no interest or energy to “keep up,” but I obviously care about beauty and aesthetic because I’m a human.

[@angelinaoliver5587]

Exactly this👏🏾💯

[@ShanaLawson]

I like the trend of “I’m exhausted by all this, I’m staying the same!” 🤷‍♀️

[@kaptainkatz1411]

Idk how people even have the energy to do more than put on clothes and brush their teeth

[@ShanaLawson]

@@kaptainkatz1411 Same! I don’t know how they even have the mental capacity to keep up with the trends let alone the energy to even try and keep up physically lol

[@flonny1340]

​@@ShanaLawsonmy people

[@hobisdimples94]

Bruhh fr!! I'm tired just working, eating, and sleeping lmaoo I don't have the energy for this mess 😩

[@neonMETEOR]

I have been fighting my own appearance for 13 years. I’m 25 now and I am also sick of it. I’m not hideous but in comparison to the faces we see everyday online (the most beautiful of all the beautiful people in the world), it’s completely skewed my perception of myself and others. I’m almost a year into deleting all my socials, and yes I feel better, but fuck, the effects last. The damage is done. I can’t even fathom being on TikTok right now. It’s completely dangerous. It’s 1000x worse than magazines.

[@thegardener3650]

Yep! Agreed!

[@katiesmith6659]

The sad thing is I think it's unavoidable to be exposed to this shit, I deleted social media when I was 19, 5 years ago, and I still can't avoid being aware and affected by it, obviously not as much as when being actively on socials, so yeah I can't even imagine how it must be now

[@neonMETEOR]

@@katiesmith6659 good for you for deleting so young!!!!! And keeping to it!

[@katiesmith6659]

@@neonMETEOR and good for you too :) glad you're feeling better since, hope it keeps improving for you

[@taylorrae3947]

I totally agree!! I have zero personal social medias now because it's all too much. I do have a tiktok that I take MANY breaks from despite the fact that I only use it for politics. Given that, I'm fairly lucky that my sphere/what the algorithm shows me tends to skew away from that content unless we're criticizing it.

[@christyyay7441]

Beauty standards remind me of the 2005 film “Robots.” The bad guy wanted all the robots to be modified to look flawless and basically striped of individuality. All the robots that did not do this were to be seen as less than. Honestly the fact that Ratchets slogan “why be you when you can be new” matches our current relationship with beauty is terrifying.

[@Meta.Empress]

Yeah - it's profit-driven

[@SeymourDisapproves]

There were much more dire consequences in that movie than the stripping of individuality. Robots in that movie were actively prevented from accessing older parts or other alternatives to the newer ones put forth by the status quo. Robots who could afford to conform did so, and those who couldn't died without intervention from bystanders and activists like the main character. This is a better analogy for being disabled, elderly, or impoverished under an unsustainable capitalist and consumerist system which demands the maximum amount of people's labor and money to function. Maybe the "beauty" reading rings truer for people whose looks are inextricably tied to the way they make money (actor, model, influencer, etc.), but that's just not most people. The movie is fundamentally about the dangers of corporate entities controlling people's quality of life. For many people, that has more dire consequences (barriers to medication, food scarcity, etc.) than whether or not strangers on social media covet your appearance.

[@christyyay7441]

@@SeymourDisapproves yes you're totally right. the film does run a lot deeper than beauty standards and is a reflection on a maraglising, capitalist society. I think my comparison was too surface level.

[@iino07]

Thissss 💯

[@sezmonsta3229]

I think the reason why buccal fat removal is trending in particular is because it doesn’t necessarily go from unconventionally attractive to attractive, you just go from a cute youthful aesthetic to a dark mature aesthetic. Like we’re literally the sneetches going from star bellied to empty bellied depending on what’s trending.

[@maebandy]

Yes, we went from heroin chic in the 90's to methhead sexy in the 2020's, the glorious evolution of beauty.

[@maebandy]

Heroin chic was a cultural response to the "give a shit hyper-success focused" 80's and methhead sexy is a cultural response to the food abundant, obesity plagued 2000's. A tan was a negative implication in the manual labor age, until Coco Chanel popularized it in the industrial age as a signifier of wealth and ability to travel to sunny locales. Heroin chic meant you didn't give a shit about corporate success and selling out. Skinny as skeleton face is a signifier that you have the self-control and money to starve yourself and afford healthy food in an age of food deserts and fast food only essential dining options. Grubhut and Ubereats wasn't delivering farm to table y'all.

[@crystalpeavey2536]

This, the fact that somebody else remembers this!! That video of the sneetches just, dead. That was a crazy time capsule in time.

[@jalapeno1119]

I read a comment on a different vid that said since wearing a full face of makeup is out, people get buccal fat removal to achieve a "natural" contour.

[@smelly4498]

I would also imagine it’s popular with younger people because there’s a real pressure and desire to look or act more mature for your age. And then of course you can’t be *too* old so once they grow into their adult faces they have to go back to appearing more youthful. The only acceptable ages to look in modern beauty standards is whatever you currently aren’t.

[@ingagud]

I am so confused about the buccal fat removal “trend”. I’m nearing 40 and thanks to my buccal fat people think I’m much younger. I truly love my buccal fat!

[@Definatalie]

Yes I was just reflecting on being 42 and wanting more face fat!!! I had weight loss surgery and of course, you lose fat from your face. I've always liked round faces and been happy with having a round face!

[@nicolescats2]

Some people are genuinely frustrated by how young they look. The you'll appreciate it when you're old comments don't help when you're treated like a child till you show ID. And it's those people, who want to look older and who go for only remove some fat not the whole pad procedure who seem really pleased. It's worrying when people don't consider how they'll look as they age when they decide how much to take out, but some people did think it through. The issue is that it's a trend, bodies shouldn't be trends.

[@anyaharper2860]

@@nicolescats2 I've had to show my ID to have lunch because the cashier thought I was a middle school student, I'm 25 lol.

[@heathers7265]

@@anyaharper2860 I had something similar happen in my thirties, when I went to my son's school the receptionist asked if I was a student. 😂

[@GC-pq6vm]

Being too thin isn’t great when you age. Many actually get cheek injections (fillers) to minimize signs of aging.

[@sapphic.flower]

My mom told me about my older sister doing an ad for this surgery that fills in the slopes between your eyes and cheeks which is unsurprisingly expensive and requires upkeep. That and the recent acknowledgment of buccal fat really just hammers home to me that the beauty industry is just treating every little crease and fat in our body as something we need to “treat”, even when they’re things practically everyone has.

[@sapphic.flower]

@kf5338 the "empowerment" narrative around cosmetic surgery, to me, is just industry pink-washing because they present it as a choice when in reality, they're subliminally pressuring women into it. It's like when I see ads for shaving that try to act like it's body positive because "you're not hiding your body behind all that hair" lmao. I get avoiding shaming anyone for plastic surgery because they're just a victim of beauty standards and it's better if they were comfortable about it enough to be honest about procedures. But doing so shouldn't mean empowering an exploitative and honestly discriminatory industry..

[@GooKie18279]

@@sapphic.flower those ads for shaving or cosmetic companies are so bizarre when they try to be feminist. “We know you don’t *need* makeup, but why wouldn’t you *want* to change your appearance?” Choice feminism is the worst.

[@user-es7ui5mc1m]

@k f To my knowledge, people sometimes get filler there, not surgery (not that that's much better but it is a difference). It's basically filler in your "dark circles", usually called tear trough filler

[@jifij89]

@@sapphic.flower best take i’ve seen in these comments, thank you for that!

[@jifij89]

@@GooKie18279 choice feminism is horrendous, it’s set feminism back as movement so much over the last 20 years

[@catvalentine4317]

I had a small medical knee surgery last summer, my first surgery in life. Before, I was up crying some nights because I was so afraid something would go wrong. And the thought that someone had actually cut up my knee still haunts me. I cannot believe people go through such a thing voluntairily!

[@Boop-beep-bap]

Samee. I had an accident where I broke my incisor tooth into half. My dentist removed it and fixed it with prosthetic tooth. The amount of pain and anesthesia made me gag.That surgery was enough for me to stay away from cosmetic surgery.

[@studiostyx7075]

OMG same. I'm terrified of doctors, hospitals, surgery--like, full blown panic attacks just thinking about them. I can't imagine someone voluntarily going under the knife and doing all these (surely painful?) procedures just to follow a trend that will be replaced in a year.

[@CaraTheStrange]

Same here, i nearly went manic out of fear before my medically nessecary septoplasty. And while i have hated my nose for years i would never get a nose job out of sheer fear, nose operations suck so bad and mine wasnt even that big.

[@fabiosa_duckbert]

as someone who doesn't have tiktok( and doesn't want it) it's these KZbin videos that help me get a better understanding of the platform, what's being promoted on it, and why people flock to it. If you're ever worried about content being old news-trust me, it isn't. I had never even heard of buccal fat until I clicked on your video.

[@darth_bagel]

Agreed…. Love not being on TikTok more and more everyday

[@MusikGirl23]

Yup. I occasionally watch a video tik tok a friend shares with me, but I couldn’t care less about having it myself. I only generally see tik tok on KZbin lol with commentary…

[@judyh3707]

Its basically the same thing as the "thigh gap" obsession. Its not really a sign of thinness and more related to skeletal structure, but nobody who desires this is truly at peace with that 10:38 YES. When you judge this procedure because you don't find the result pleasing, thats not good either! That continues to perpetuate the idea that women's bodies are something to be judged

[@marnenotmarnie259]

+++ the problem was never with if it looks "good" or not, it's that the pressure to permanently alter your appearance in order to fit in better shouldn't have been there in the first place. it's nice finding lots of people in this comment section that get that lol

[@monochromedream-eatingbaku]

Yeah. I've been underweight as fuck most of my life (I have an eating disorder and fluctuate between severely underweight to nearly healthy depending on how bad my mental health is) and NEVER had a thigh gap. I have a pretty wide pelvis but I have a fair amount of muscle in my thighs, which might also be contributing to it

[@makeamericakateagain]

I’ve had a “thigh gap” my entire life. I’m 48 and in great shape. I can’t help that that is the way my body is. It’s hereditary for me.

[@MinkytheMinkY]

@@merulaamethyst2248 imagine being torn down for something natural to you? The backlash sucks bc it does not differentiate between what's modified and what's natural.

[@kant.68]

I mean you live in a damn society with people who aren’t forced to like how you look and if they wanna voice it out they’re in their rights . Women are so emotionally weak that they had to create body positivity and blame patriarchy for other women starting stupid trends , y’all are your worst enemy. But is easier to blame men or society

[@casstellar]

I had double jaw surgery in early 2020, a week before lockdown. Despite having it for health reasons, the facial dysmorphia I have been feeling since is not something I would wish on anyone, and despite me having spent years researching the surgery, I did not see it discussed at length anywhere. It was all people being "super glad they got it" and wishing they had gotten it sooner. So it really hurts my heart to see people jumping and eager to do facial surgeries without being informed about this possibility, or even taking it into account. Facial surgery is almost impossible to hide. Mirrors are everywhere, and so are cameras. The discussion of how big of a whiplash your brain gets from seeing your face look so different so suddenly should be much bigger. Editing just to add: just because the odds of a procedure going wrong are small, doesn't mean they don't exist! I lost feeling on my chin and lower lip, and will need revision surgery to attempt to correct this.

[@kaiw522]

@@fibonacci2112 shelby church did a video about her jaw surgery. I'm not a fan of her content anymore but I think she seemed pretty honest about her journey. Maybe more people in the comments of that video can help you too.

[@JudyCZ]

I remember my friend getting this surgery for health reasons who was so happy I didn't compliment her on the result. To be honest - I didn't really notice, I just don't analyze people's faces enough or something. She said how many people told her how much better she looks which bothered her. She had to get this done. And she suffered through the recovery just like you're explaining. She wouldn't wish this on anyone and then people keep telling her how it was presumably good for her in the most superficial way.

[@annikania2682]

@@JudyCZ I am heading for a really painful removal of my upper wisdom teeth. Because they are growing fast but wrong at the moment, parts of my face are more swollen and i changed my … normal mouth position; i have a different, apparently more attractive jawbone/general face shape now. I have gotten compliments on this multiple times. My god, i could have killed those people, and I think your friend might feel the same; I am happy that she is done with it, and i hope her problems will get better soon! I am kinda not looking forward to “getting my old face back” now, but i am REALLY happy to not be in pain anymore!

[@ingsYEAH]

Thanks for sharing your story, wishing you a positive experience with the revision surgery 💚

[@ritaevergreen7234]

Omg!! I went through a similar thing after my second jaw surgery. My healing process has been long and I had moments of anxiety looking at myself in the mirror because I didn’t know which version of my face that day was the final permanent look.

[@emmafoley8987]

For those interested in the "body type as trend" topic, I'd recommend Abby Cox's recent video on pockets (yes, pockets). Throughout her content, this comes up and its so eye opening to see how our current clothing trends put pressure on the shape of a body, rather than on the shape of what is on top of it.

[@awezomnezz1]

Seconding this. Falling into the fashion history side of youtube really helped me realize where these trends come from. What’s beautiful is what’s hardest to achieve at any one point in time, so that the only people who can achieve it are the wealthy. It also helped me to realize how arbitrary it is, since my body type was the ideal a hundred years ago, and then suddenly it wasn’t.

[@annikania2682]

I think i once heard that one of the reasons models are that skinny is because it is more forgiving with “badly” cut clothing. I can’t quote anyone here, but thinking about some things that walk down the runway, i think… part of it is true.

[@rockinsockmonkey8033]

@@annikania2682 as a lifelong seamstress and couture sewing devotee I'd have to absolutely agree. I have a rather curvy body and it's incredibly hard to make things look good on me, it takes a lot of special techniques. imo its not hard to make a garment that looks good on a tall skinny flat model. What's difficult is engineering fabric to go over curves, and therefore most fashion pushes the idea that tall and thin is more elegant.

[@NameName-gl9cw]

I think Mina Le also has some videos that touch on this

[@rynrose81]

I love how the historical costuming community emphasizes historical fashion being about creating the fashionable silhouette *not * the fashionable body. And doing so by padding out areas rather than tight lacing. It’s changed the way I think about fashion and my body so much

[@leenanorms]

I don't know if I've been living under a rock but I hadn't heard about buccal fat removal AT all until this video. This was super interesting and well handled - if you ever feel like you're 'late' to a discussion again, always know you can count on me to have not heard and need telling! x

[@teresaellis7062]

Same! I must live under a rock nearby. 😂😂

[@riabouchinska]

Same! I kinda wish I didn’t know about it lol it grosses me out

[@myconfusedmerriment]

I had only heard about it once, just a few days ago. Maybe that means I’m old and uncool now lol. But tbh I think taking time to organize your thoughts about a topic and learn more before you speak on it is a great thing. I honestly dislike that our lightning-fast news cycle makes people feel like they have to hurry up and put in their 2 cents in order to stay relevant.

[@gianellab.4953]

Proudly been living under a rock for 10 years now and it's GLORIOUS haha I don't wear makeup, I don't have social media, I don't follow fashion trends, I don't even know half of the "celebrities" people fawn over these days. There's nothing more liberating. I think being uncool is a small price to pay for being yourself without the stress and anxiety of fitting in and looking good enough for others. You're doing great :)

[@efeso511]

y’all are fortunate to not be aware of this. talks about it has been all over my youtube 🫠

[@kathy-leew3989]

I used to tell my mom I hated my facial fat at 16 and wanted to slim it down. Good thing my mom is someone with experience and she told me that my facial fat would make me look younger for longer and that it’s a unique feature about me. Now at age 26 I realized she was right. I had teenage boys tell me I look 19 and they didn’t expect me to be 26. I’ve been perceived as younger than I am which nowadays became the trend. So instead of changing my features, I learned to love them. So I wish all girls and women to do the similar. Love your features, they make you unique. I’m not against plastic surgery, yet you need to consider the side effects. Prioritize your health, physically and mentally and you won’t chase any trends.

[@aeoligarlic4024]

My mom said the same thing back then when i complained about having bushy eyebrows and thick hair. So glad she never allowed me to straighten my hair or pluck my eyebrows. Stern but soft and understanfing parenting is the key

[@celesteblack1803]

I was so self-conscious about my hip dips until a year or two ago when I saw multiple people on TikTok showing off theirs and how normal they are. Then I realized it’s literally my SKELETON and not much I can do about it lol so I stopped caring. Shout out to the influencers who remind us that we are lovely and normal as we are. A little nip or tuck here may help build self-esteem and be harmless, sure, but it’s important we celebrate our lovely differences and also our lovely imperfections that we have in common.

[@mchlle94]

I actually love my hips dips and love them on others!

[@nastassjahall9358]

Everytime I see a "hip dip workout" I get 1 little bit closer to murder I swear. I hate it lol, no exercise can change your skeletal structure

[@juliee593]

I had no idea what hip dips were and that they were considered "unattractive" or "not trendy" until like a year ago, and only because of social media. I just always thought of my hips as normal. Which they are, btw... Honestly I think most of the reason why people want to get plastic surgery stems from childhood. In my childhood I never cared how my body looked, because no one commented on it and I wasn't reading teen magazines or other atrocities of that kind that basically exist just to destroy women. How good or bad I looked never crossed my mind. However I can very well imagine how someone growing up in a family that praises them for being pretty instead of their achievements or their personality would be interested in plastic surgery. Bonus point if they consumed a lot of "girly" or hypersexualised content as a child.

[@ju1iaonline]

don't worry about your topics being "late" due to the fast news cycles. many of us dont keep up that much so videos like yours are helpful in catching up and understanding recent topics :) also dont worry about your jaw line, you look great, and personally one time i lost a lot of weight and got a nice jaw line but it didnt do anything to improve my life, you know? but what has improved my life has been working on mental health, focusing on what i love, forging healthy relationships, developing my boundaries, etc.

[@sarah214ahmed]

Absolutely i agree

[@syd5380]

I always knew I had hips dips and it bummed me out but I didn’t start _constantly noticing it_ until I learned they started being referred to with that term. And then I saw tons of people explaining different ways you could try to “fix them.” What’s stupid is that I objectively know that, from the hip dips up, I really like my figure. But I am sometimes completely unable to even see it past the “incorrect” hips and VERY NORMAL belly fat. It’s stupid. It feels stupid to even have this problem but I genuinely can’t help it. Physical features that you’re already sort of displeased with suddenly being given a name and declared unfavorable makes the problem concrete in your mind. And it makes you feel like your ~unfortunate~ features are noticeable to others who are also aware that they’re bad. It really sucks.

[@ej4j4i38wGwgeb8]

i know this comment is kinda old, but honestly, as someone who doesn't have hip dips and didn't even know they had a name until like, a month ago- hip dips are hot and cool as shit. im an artist and ive drawn all my characters with hip dips from day one bc i think it makes them look cooler bwahaha. so don't buy into the "everyone thinks it's ugly" bullshit, i'm sure many more people think hip dips are cool!!

[@CaraTheStrange]

Personally hearing that hip dips are a thing was a positive for me. It normalised something I thought was a me problem. Then again im not on tiktok and haven’t seen anything on how to “fix them”.

[@Princess_Weekes]

I totally understand you here 15:43. I gained weight and my face is very round already, so now I am a full cerub. But I have no sense of my angles anymore so I just feel like I look disgusting all the time. So much internalized fatphobia awakened in me and it’s been a struggle to not just want to lose weight quickly and do something like cold sculpting because sometimes editing my own videos feels like torture. :(

[@alicelong3613]

Just cut carbs and sugar, let your body eat your fat

[@teresaellis7062]

I offer to you a heartfelt hug and best wishes! 💖💖

[@misselizabeth6631]

I am sure you look great. God created you in His image. Delete your social media, and I promise, you’ll feel better. Just think- Cherub= beautiful, joyous and youthful. True beauty shines from below the surface. The real ones will see it ☺️

[@peaceflowerstudios6833]

@@misselizabeth6631 you know that asking a professional content creator to delete her KZbin channel is not constructive, right? It's her entire income!

[@haleyselene]

I've always thought you had a very beautiful face, including in current videos. It's funny, because I also have a round face, but im definitely harder on myself that others for it.

[@robynology101]

I just wanna say how much I appreciate Tiffany’s inclusiveness about all of these topics, that she’s aware of the diverse perspectives, and that she plugs in the videos of these content creators so that everyone can learn more. Love to see a woman supporting women.

[@botanicalitus4194]

I really appreciate the tiktok at 10:40 She's right, by criticizing how people who get buccal fat removal look, and saying that the surgery made them less attractive, you are reinforcing the exact same problem with plastic surgery in the first place: Which is the idea that women need to make decisions based on whether or not it will make them more attractive. I mean now what's stopping people from thinking that they need implants to make themselves look younger? Attractiveness is not a woman's most important quality, and we should stop acting like it is

[@sweetembrace6706]

This really isn’t a good point, ignoring that these procedures are done for the explicit purpose of looking more attractive doesn’t really make sense.

[@mimipeahes5848]

@@sweetembrace6706 The point is that by pointing out that they look bad you’re implying that it would be less bad if the procedure made people attractive.

[@marnenotmarnie259]

@@sweetembrace6706of course that's why they do it, but it would still be an issue whether or not it ends up looking good (which is completely subjective) imo.

[@botanicalitus4194]

@@sweetembrace6706Maybe you misunderatood me or I wasnt clear. You can criticize the fact that these procedures are meent to make people look better but in reality they just make people look different, not any better or worse than before. But to call them ugly implies that, as the commenter above said, if the procedure DID make them look good, then it would be ok for us to normalize it and push it onto everyone Bottom line is, the problem with plastic surgery is that it is a product of society valuing a woman's physical attractiveness over everything else, so women who feel ugly will get work done to feel like they fit society's expectations of them. So by criticizing the women's attractiveness you are reinforcing this idea, by implying that the reason they should not have gotten the surgery is because it makes them "uglier", and not because its expensive and dangerous and unnecessary. Like, the normalization of the surgery would be just as bad even if the surgery had a 100% guarantee to make you prettier.

[@Dolphinboi]

Lea Michele is a racist who cares if she gets called ugly?

[@BiancaT.]

This was trendy in brazil a few years ago, and the people who did it already show the consequences. There is an insta account that shows these consequences. The account is called vitimas da bichectomia

[@glorianicole7242]

Oh damn! That’s actually crazy.

[@shizuevoltam]

it looks funny how everyone wants to look older but when they get older, I wonder if there is a procedure to fill in the fat they take out now

[@EmmaxoOCE]

There is

[@0xydeath]

Yes, its called filler or implants

[@miriamrosas4253]

@@0xydeathit never looks the same way tho

[@caseyw.6550]

Yeah, pretty sure they just think they will get something else done if they decide they want something different. The privilege of it all. They (rich folks) don't even really have to worry about the consequences of their decisions, because they can always just go in for another procedure down the road.

[@shannonEGBOK]

It can look lumpy and odd when you try to fill this out after surgery. If you gain weight after surgery it can also look lumpy as well. There are people who can benefit from this procedure but it's a small number.

[@jaelk]

Re: worries about everyone being sick of a topic before you get to cover it: Please know that videos like yours are invaluable for people who want to stay partially in the loop about trending topics but don't do tiktok/social media in general. It may seem like "everyone's" sick of hearing about something, but for every 1 extremely online person, there are 10 people who have no idea what's trending and are interested in learning! Also, the "gaunt look" trend seems to me like backlash against the body positivity movement. Which sucks extra because most of mainstream bodyposi consisted of surface level conversations that didn't do much for fat people as a whole, but I can see those who profit off of diet culture and the glorification of thinness feeling threatened and wanting to do something to get people spending more money on trying to be as thin as possible.

[@hannahdigitals]

I’ve found that following creators with similar body types to me has helped a lot, if we only see models and influencers that follow trends then we think that they are the beauty standard which is so limiting and not true

[@chaaaargh]

i can definitely see how that helps, i wish i could find more ppl with a similar body type to mine :(

[@0912sooli]

True but also its good to accept that every face and body is beautiful and I dont even find most "pretty" celebs as that attractive as other people find them. I even prefer imperfect faces more

[@SieMiezekatze]

I always wanted to be curvy and all Instagram influencers had that big butt small waist look, but seeing how unachievable it is to gain big hips and a small waist, I will just stay fit and slim

[@chidiogoikeh4550]

@@chaaaargh must be someone out there

[@toni2309]

Does anyone know what to do what that makes us feel even more uncomfortable? As a trans person, I look at trans influencers or people on the internet...and it just spikes my dysphoria, I just tend to end up thinking "god that guy has such a round face, I hate it and that's exactly how you look like".

[@UnsortedSeeds]

At 36, I've only ever had one cosmetic procedures, and I am so proud that I did it. I had a breast reduction, and a big part of why I had it done was because I hated how I looked with giant i cup breasts on my 5'2" frame. They made me look way bigger than I was, and I got far too much male attention because of them. I can't tell you how many times I caught a man or young boy staring at them or trying to actually look down my blouse. I hated that everything looked like a tent on me. There was also significant pain that I experienced every single minute of every single day. I feel more normal now, and 5 years later, it was one of the best things I've ever done for myself. The only other procedure I would consider getting is a septoplasty to correct my deviated septum. It's hard for me to breathe through one nostril, so I would want to get it done. I found out recently that it's something that can be covered by my insurance, so I think I'll have a little chat with my doctor soon.

[@SieMiezekatze]

Congrats in your successful surgery and recovery

[@Cocoanutty0]

I got one too! I just commented about it, and how it made plastic surgery feel more accessible to me which has only made me feel uglier in many ways (not my chest). I dont regret it and love being a member of the itty bitty titty committee now, but it really messed up my brain.

[@Violet_33]

I’ve gotten a septoplasty and I highly recommend it! Being able to breathe normally is worth it.

[@teresaellis7062]

I, too, got a breast reduction. I wanted one for years because I disliked being so big in the chest, but what pushed me over was my arm going numb from the pressure of my bra straps. My first thought after waking up from surgery, "Wow, I feel so light!" That was WITH the grogginess of the medicines. I also have fewer incidents of back pain.

[@ThyBrokenhartedx]

I got a breast reduction to look cuter in my clothes, and to make working out better! BR for the win !!

[@Kthb80]

I lost a molar on either side of my mouth and then had bone loss resulting in the sunken cheek look. I hate it so much. I can’t believe it’s a trend. I’m not a fan of plastic surgery at all. I think it makes almost everyone look worse.

[@brill34536]

I don’t know if I agree that all plastic surgery looks worse, but I think the goal should be to not focus so much on external beauty and focus on more fulfilling and meaningful things

[@nora4642]

It just goes to uncanny value so fast.

[@hucklebucklin]

Did you get molar implants? That's scary that you lose your teeth, I hope the rest of your teeth are okay!

[@daniellelopez3342]

@@brill34536 🙄

[@Kthb80]

@@hucklebucklin no because they were in the very back of my mouth were you can’t see and I didn’t have the 8K at the time for implants, had I known it would change the structure of my face I’d have figured a way to come up with the money.

[@margaretcummings4146]

Your comment of "When do the Kardashians get to like......stop?" really resonated, I've thought something similar about people in my own life who are caught up in cycles of gaining and losing weight, trying to change how they look. When does anybody get to stop? When we decide to hop off the treadmill, I guess

[@saraghhh]

A favourite quote of mine is “trends are for the anxious”, and these trends and procedures illustrate this so well. I would rather be me with all my flaws and embrace that joyously than anxiously try and meet some stupid standard that will be irrelevant in a year’s time or less.

[@caseyw.6550]

I just turned 40 and looking back at my 25 year old pics, I would love to have that "baby fat" youthful looking face. Buccal fat removal is like "please make me look a decade older" imo. But whatever floats your boat! Just be safe!

[@lanettazappala6624]

I'm almost 44 and this is exactly what I thought... seems like this procedure would definitely be aging. I can see a lot of regret 10 or 15 years down the road.

[@dianamonge4406]

FInally a nuanced take on this subject that is just "eww she looked better before the surgery". I always appreciate how well thought out these videos are!

[@awezomnezz1]

Yes! Thank you for bringing up criticizing individuals instead of society. Insulting and degrading people who have undergone these procedures just reinforces the idea that you’re defined by looks. There’s no winning unless you stop playing the game 🤷‍♀️

[@ashb9312]

You bring up such a good point about 'unlocking' these perceived flaws as trends keep changing. It reminds me so much of the pathophysiology of Body Dysmorphia Disorder. People with this disorder are shown in studies to have actual differences in visual processing, where they will automatically focus on the details of an image instead of viewing the image as a whole - not seeing the forest for the trees, if you will. Similarly, on social media, we are so focused on parts of our face and body that we can't actually see the whole of what we look like. And the focus on these parts will shift and morph, so one day it might be the nose while the next day its our cheeks, etc. It doesn't end. As a more personal aside, I've been so self-conscious about aging and the look of my neck recently. The other night some dude who was about ten years younger than me called me "mom" at a bar and it sent me into a tailspin, thinking about all of the things I could do to make myself look younger. And when I first saw you in this video, I absently focused on how 'young' your neck and chin looked and wished I could look like you. Imagine my shock when moments later, you said you were considering changes to your neck/chin! Ugh. This is really a no-win game, I'm afraid. :{

[@G625-s1c]

that tiktok of natalia dyer’s face around 20:40 was wild. it changed everything about her appearance that makes her look so cool and interesting and memorable (also she is already very conventionally attractive). having a unique look as a screen actor is actually profitable!! being recognizable and memorable in your appearance helps people remember who you are when you have a great performance!

[@lucaszalmas2775]

I'm never going to forget the time when I went to get 4 units of botox in my chin at a certain clinic. While she was preparing, I was chatting with the nurse about my lower face, as I've considered getting just a drop of filler in my chin to address some distortion. And she said to me: 'You should go to Thailand to get lower face surgery". So say that my jaw dropped, is an understatement. I've never ever considered doing that before, it hit me like a truck. Since then, I'm not gonna lie, the thought of getting surgery at some point came up in my head several times. It is WILD. Not only was it extremely unprofessional, but it unlocked something in me that I wasn't prepared for. Never EVER suggest ANYONE that they get plastic surgery, unless it is the topic of conversation and they ask you for advice. Jesus Christ!

[@shannonEGBOK]

Sorry that happened to you. That seems super unprofessional and generally awful.

[@tehreemazmat2929]

As an NC-20 girl with literally glass skin and no hyperpigmentation, I've been recommended whitening drips 🥴☠️ by my consultant dermatologist. It wasn't a topic at all and I hadn't asked her advice on it at all. I was there for a hypertrophic scar (a literal disfigurement on my arm). I was there to get rid of a disfigurement, not to hyper-beautify normal healthy existence

[@emelyblixt4172]

That is so rude! Mine wasn’t nearly as bad, but I went my aesthetician just for a facial and she started asking why I hadn’t removed a mole on my face (very small and perfectly healthy) and I just said that I had never considered it and she was like: we’ll get that done for you so easily, here is a brochure and you can schedule an appointment Now I’m constantly checking that mole and feeling insecure about it

[@chelscara]

Bruh, my dentist told me I should get jaw surgery after my braces were done because my teeth were A MILLIMETER off in the center, so the top wouldn’t exactly line up with the bottom. I was 16! My mom and I laughed out loud in that woman’s face.

[@Idilagattina]

I totally feel you. I went for a bit of filler in my chin and the doctor proceeded to tell me everything that was 'wrong' with my face and that I should do. Even buccal fat removal was mentioned (while I always loved my cheeks lol). So rude and unprofessional. Never heard from me again. No wonder young and impressionable people succumb to this. They hit you where they think you're weak. By the way I decided to accept my soft chin cause it's not as bad as the internet makes you think it is.

[@londonderry89757]

Thanks for making such a detailed and well-researched video. Your point about how we now feel guilty about our bodies, and also feel guilty about feeling guilty, is so poignant. And thanks for sharing with us about your insecurities- being on camera can’t be easy! for what it’s worth, you are really, really beautiful. Do whatever you want with your body, but it is honestly sad that we live in a society where people are made to feel so insecure.

[@tiffanyferg]

thank you

[@annikabergstrom6346]

As someone who doesn't have TikTok or really immerse myself in the beauty space online, I really appreciate you talking about plastic surgery, veneers/crowns, and facetune. Honestly I forget/don't even know some of those things exist and it helps me to keep a level head if I find myself comparing my appearance to influencers or celebrities. Totally agree that disclosure or at the very least not lying that you've had things done/doctored your photos is the best way to go about these things. Hope you're having a great start to 2023!! :D

[@morganwentworth2041]

I engage with the KZbin side of fitness influencing so it never occured to me that the people who look super jacked were on steroids which...of course they were

[@Stina85]

Thank you for covering this. I feel so validated. It’s so frustrating to be in my mid 30s and feel pressured for my entire adult life to constantly look 25 for the rest of my life-and surgeries feel like a standard beauty requirement. It’s awful these pressures are so normal. Glad you did this video. Thank you, again. 💖

[@jamiedecker3234]

Its so so important for me to remind myself that my insecurities are not being noticed by others. I never look at another person and notice their perceived imperfections that they may be hyper focused on themselves and feeling self conscious about so why am I worried about the way that my hips are or the almost unnoticeable zit forming on my chin. Beauty standards are exhausting and I try my hardest to not be effected by them but man its hard sometimes

[@SuebinPark]

OH my god my tiktok is in a tiffanyferg video. my life is complete. tysm for making this vid essay, i was hoping you would have something to say abt this!! i fully identify with your personal feelings….sometimes, esp as a woman navigating a patriarchal society, it all just feels like constant interrogation of my choices, whether or not i’m bending to or resisting or perpetuating the societal standards we live under. hating oneself or other folks for the choices they make is definitely not the answer to addressing body negativity. but tbh i don’t know what is. another point: the part of plastic surgery that makes me leery about getting it done is knowing that once you step into certain procedures, you’re pretty much roped into a future of maintenance. that’s a very big monetary expense that will only grow….stuff like migrating filler, “filler fatigue”, “pillow face”, collapsing implants, etc…again, you can really see this in korea. korea’s plastic surgery industry has been decades ahead of the curve, and im seeing where korean celebs are now, 15 years after even the most expensive, high quality surgeries. if i did end up getting anything done (something i’ve seriously considered tbh, thanks for being open about your thoughts too) you best bet i’m giving it ENDLESS research and serious thought about how it “ages”, risks and complications, if there are any steps down the line for me, etc. great video ^^ happy new years!!

[@tiffanyferg]

Thank you for all of this! ❤️ some very thought provoking questions. Also I definitely want to research more about the Korean beauty / cosmetic surgery industry - from what I’ve heard it is fascinating

[@Bekind94]

I just told my husband this yesterday! I’m so TIRED of the focus on looks. So tired of beauty standards. I’m not here for it anymore.

[@j9_shine]

You should talk more about face filters. I stopped using them completely like 2 years ago because I realized I felt ugly if I took a picture without one on, my face is fine I don't need a smaller nose or bigger lips or paler skin.

[@tiffanyferg]

I made a video about them years ago but have considered making an updated version! I also make an effort not to use them because I don't want to distort my self-perception but it's hard sometimes, especially when it seems like every other post we see is filtered!

[@meliadxx]

I always thought I looked like an alien when I used these filters. It's really weird how normalized it is.

[@NataliaNNS]

@@tiffanyferg I’d love to see an updated version!

[@riabouchinska]

@KC I think that’s a good outlook to have! This is my attitude when I’m at the beach tbh, like yes I’m wearing a bikini, this is my body, if I’m ok with it everyone else can be too (or just not look, that’s always an option lmao)

[@juliee593]

I never used filters and don't want to, because I want the few existing pics of me to reflect how I really look. And one thing that extremely pisses me off is the fact that many apps and even phone camera apps have beauty filters on by default without you knowing! You don't even have a choice to look like yourself anymore. It's actually insulting.

[@stephaniesharpe1504]

i cant watch youtube with my boyfriend because we have totally different tastes in videos. but he is able to sit through your videos with me while i enjoy them. thats a win in my books

[@Rabbit80q]

If you're considering doing this surgery, read this comment. This surgery seem to be trending in the US just now. But this happend in Brazil many years ago. At the time it was a new thing and women weren't aware of the consequences. It looks really nice right after the surgery, but after a few years many of these women started showing us how it made them look gauge after just a few years. I've seen pictures of it, it's not the same for everyone, but it truly ruins some people's faces. I'd never do that. It's not worth the risk. We call this surgery "bichectomia", so if you type it on places like tiktok or google, maybe you can see the pictures too if you're interested. People got so shocked with this, that now I don't hear about anyone wanting to go through it.

[@ImmaURq]

There’s a Reddit horror story of a person who removed their own buccle fat so they could fit into their motorcycle helmet more comfortably (but also probably had deeper issues). And like it horrified me. And this discussion gives me flashbacks. Like how in one moment is this horrifying and then the next, aspirational?

[@stickinug]

Omg!! Why didn't they just get a bigger helmet 😭😭😭

[@ImmaURq]

@@stickinug i don't know! it's awful huh 😭

[@erincostello7792]

I only remembered this when I read your comment. I can't believe I forgot the pictures 🤢 it was horrific.

[@marnenotmarnie259]

dude wtf whyyyy

[@robocatro]

I thought I was the only one remembering this story ahaha

[@marion-v6o]

I'm not on tiktok anymore because its such a time waster. Continue making these interesting videos please! I hadn't even heard of this trend

[@itsmetorigladys]

same i got off tt in august and i just started hearing about this procedure. crazy! its good though i would much rather learn about it in a controlled deep dive like this than a 10 second tiktok telling me i need to spend thousands and more on fitting societal beauty standards

[@Sun.Shine-]

For me, its IG & tiktok is banned in my country, so ✌️

[@hi_im_angie]

So, my jawline is my #1 insecurity. As I was watching this video, before you mentioned that surgery, I was admiring your jawline and wishing mine looked as good! LOL We're all so self-critical, usually of things that no one else even notices.

[@cbpd89]

Same! The realization that we're so self conscious about things that no one else notices, or maybe even the things people like about our faces, puts it into perspective for me! I'm guessing I'm the only one who notices or cares that my jawline lacks definition.

[@thelying2594]

Yeah! I think my neck looks so fat yet I'm skinny so I've worried about it for years

[@GweenOfTea]

I’ve always hated how round/full my face was, it always made me feel insecure, if I saw this as a 15-16 year old it’d make me feel awful 😭 I absolutely hate being a girl just on beauty standards alone. Men have their own toxic standards, but I can’t help but be a bit jealous over the fact that chubby/overweight men and certain face structures etc aren’t heavily shamed and stigmatized in the same way women’s are

[@madalinaanton3253]

I knew thinness will be glorified again when I felt I might relapse into my anorexia but did not know why. I actually started feeling like this at the start of 2021 and I don`t know exactly what triggered it, but I remember it had something to do with how my head looked so small with my new non anorexic body and how I did not care about this for 3 years that the fit/curvy/BBL body type was glamorous. And I think I started analysing my proportions when I began seeing more pictures of skinny girls looking pretty and more celebrities loosing weight as a departure even from the healthy looking body that was popular before. Until then I used to look at runway shows and think : ``poor girls they have to be so unhealthy ``but I could sense the trend tide turning and I relapsed in only 2 months. I suddenly wanted to become emaciated thin which I never did before, because when I was growing up it was beautiful to be thin, but to look healthy and plump as well, now I was on a whole different bandwagon, I did not live through the heroin chic years even though I was born in 98 and when I was anorexic at 18 Bella Hadid was a lot fuller than she is now, even then I knew I still had to look healthy to feel the beauty I wanted on the inside. If some of you think thinness has never gone you are wrong, this thinness has not been seen and glamorised outside of tumblr pro-ana feeds and k-pop cirlcles in the past 10 years , people used to look with concern at runway models and victoria secret`s diets . When I was in high-school I wanted to look like Gigi Hadid in How deep is your love, look at that video and see what thinness really ment in 2016, she is now a lot skinnier than in that video and she had a baby. People with eating disorders can sense this changes immeditely because we are used with analysing small details about our bodies, we will perceive somone else getting skinnier , maybe just a size skinnier. I have this thing about analysing other girls` knees in comparisson to mine, I will know when they lost weight and I will take it as an absolute necessity to not be fatter than them .

[@elizabethahren]

Tiff! Would you consider making a video about the ethics of true crime? Both influencers talking about it, and fictionalized (ie the Dahmer series)

[@rileyblanton7281]

Yes!

[@Cocoanutty0]

This would be really interesting!

[@sangomoon5456]

Yes

[@ingsYEAH]

Yes please- I feel like no one is discussing this, it needs a nuanced dive, and no one can do it like our girl

[@suoutubez19]

@@ingsYEAHit has been discussed by several big creators :)

[@vhs3760]

i’ve been living with trigeminal neuralgia for three years now, likely caused by nerve trauma during a mandatory dental surgery, so i would highly caution against messing around with your cheeks. you keep important nerves in your face.

[@vhs3760]

@@petunia7623 I think Botox prevents face movement by partial paralysis, maybe that's the case? but nerve damage is possible

[@IntrovertedBear]

THIS. Omg. I fear this trend will lead do nerve and muscle damage. There are so many muscles and nerves in that spot of the face that affect speaking and swallowing. No thanks.

[@LorryHill]

Thanks for the shout out ! You’re doing great work over here !!

[@orcanium]

The fact that certain body or faces are considered trends is exactly why i pretty much deleted all my social media

[@Natalia91]

This surgery was popular in Brazil a few years ago, every influencer was getting it done and the dentists were the ones doing it. I am still traumatized by a video of an influencer vlogging the day of the surgery where I saw a bit of it. I feel like after that people start discussing that removing your buccal fat would make you look much older sooner, so it has gone down in popularity again. Lately I never hear anyone talking about it anymore.

[@jemi_]

By 27, if there's one massive life lesson I've learned when it comes to beauty, it's that you'll never really feel beautiful or "worthy" enough until you genuinely invest in loving yourself. Of course, this also means unlearning the ways of thinking society has placed on us, and realizing how body trends, makeup, and such, exist not to "fix us", but to make money for companies. Once you realize these things, it's much easier to accept yourself for who you are, and love yourself for your unique qualities and features. In my early 20s I was so hyper fixated on getting a nose job, being skinnier etc. Now I wouldn't ever want to change the way I look 🥰 💕

[@paulinaordonez380]

Amen to that! You go girl :)

[@anyone1111]

I’m so happy for you that you truly like the way you look! We have so much to unlearn and we are all on the journey even if we are on different places of it~ Have a blessed day love💖

[@tfkdandsvkc]

Being older is much worse who are you lying

[@jynxbot352]

This is honestly why I just don't care to put energy in things like Instagram. I'm so tired of the need to feel like you must care about yours and others attractiveness validation. All my social media has shifted to more craft/hobby tips and videos and cool places. I'm so over seeing a focus on beauty, I literally just don't care anymore and I feel sooooo much better in life not having to care about others need for beauty validation, let alone on my own end.

[@architectsneedunions]

The Overton window around plastic surgery is definitely shifting at a crazy pace. Channels like Lorry Hill's are super important in educating us about different procedures and setting or limiting our expectations. She's also helped me stop comparing myself to the people she talks about, who have entire teams of doctors, dermatologists, aestheticians, makeup artists, hairstylists, etc at their constant disposal. An outpatient recovery for buccal fat removal or whatever else is not the same thing as having professionals monitor you around the clock to make sure you get the best possible results. Also, I do think that a person getting a procedure contributes to its normalization, and ultimately their decision can push others towards getting it themselves. I always thought I would never get anything done but here I am, recovering from a co2 laser treatment because absolutely no woman I know irl or see in any media ever has acne scars as bad as mine (were, hopefully).

[@Denycia]

I heard a quote online once that I use constantly when I feel insecure about something and feel like I should alter or hide it. "Who benefits from me feeling this way?" I try to remind myself it's the makeup industry, the fast fashion industry, the patriarchy, etc. that benefit from my insecurities. It doesn't make the insecurities go away but it makes it easier to feel like I shouldn't throw money at changing it.

[@LA-ir7dl]

I remember i wanted to get this procedure done so badly. I’m only 30, usually the cheeks thin out as you age and I don’t want to look older, so I’ve accepted my cheeks lol

[@livenandlove1980]

I'm 42 but look 32 cause of my chubby cheeks😊

[@SieMiezekatze]

I am lucky I accepted my chubby checks at age 20 , seeing how they fit my face, I wouldn't want to remove something so important to my appearance

[@dianebrooks1859]

People still guess In the 24-26 range for me at 33. It's because of my chubby cheeks! With foundation only I get closer to 20-24 guesses.

[@denise_the_economist]

I love your considered approach. One factor I don't recall being covered is potentially influencers being sponsored or reduced prices for cosmetic procedures. That makes their influence even scarier !

[@jaznappier7992]

I absolutely loved your shout out of Tee Noir here. As soon as you started talking about that section of the video I was just thinking about her video and how beneficial it would be in this conversation. You do your research and it SHOWS.

[@rubis_abn]

I don’t want to imagine a world where these videos dont exist. It’s so crucial for us to keep reality checks and these videos encourage that

[@juliannafranchini7975]

It’s actually so fascinating that the “trend” right now is a more mature looking face. It’s so close to celebrating older women with that Disney villainess look and not feeling like you have to look youthful to be beautiful, but it’s in the form of a cosmetic surgery LOL (Side note, loved the part where you’re talking about feeling weird about your chin and side profile!! I’ve kind of felt that way about mine for the longest time but hearing you say it and realizing that I have never actually noticed that our chins are the exact same shape made me feel so much better about mine it’s unbelievable. Who cares if I have no chin man, I like my singing voice a lot more than I don’t like my chin and any procedure that touches that area just wigs me right out hahahaha)

[@marylhere]

I had a friend in the early 80s that had liposuction done so she could wear miniskirts. She took out loans and could barely afford the special compression stockings needed for the weeks of recovery. She had had rhinoplasty done a few years earlier and her Facebook page shows she’s had quite a bit of work done over the years. She put herself in serious debt to do this…

[@Tiffany-cr9bc]

I interviewed a CRNP who owns an aesthetic med spa in my town. I wanted to ask her a lot more questions than I was able to given the purpose of the article. I did a lot of research for that 600 word splash. Let me tell you, suddenly I started seeing shorts (I'm not on TikTok) promoting all of these crazy percedures to my face. In a week, I noticed myself internally analyzing and criticizing my features at every turn in my mirror. Until I saw this video, I wasn't even aware. Great dive, Detective Tiffany!.

[@alissssay]

Once a hairstylist was suggesting which side I should part my hair by telling me I had a “wonky eye” that gave me a complex for a while

[@nora4642]

My dentist told me this week that my teeth are healthy but I need to fix the space been my bottom teeth (due to a medical issue) and it wasn’t even something I had noticed before

[@EEsYouTubeChanel]

Lol I hope you didn’t tip that’s so mean

[@susanarowe3931]

She sounds like a terrible stylist, they shouldn’t insult their client. I think she was projecting because that says more about them than you.

[@jodimeadows]

Whether or not the trend/cycle is over, I appreciate these videos whenever you get to them. I'm apparently on a completely different side of the internet (books, writing, fiber arts), so this stuff passes me by and I only know about it because of folks like you.

[@marissab2596]

as a young woman i can confirm how much these do affect me. i have considered the exact surgeries that i would need, i’ve been told i need surgeries, lose weight, i’ve developed unhealthy habits because of the skinny trend. i’ve even considered myself very pretty in the past now i think i’m hideous no matter what

[@yuckysmuck]

If I was 15 again, this procedure would be all I ever talked about wanting to get done. That was my biggest insecurity, and honestly heavily prompted by tiktok and the whole sharp jawline hype. I'm 18 now, and my face is significantly slimmer than it was in my mid-teens at the same weight and even slightly higher. I think the best thing you can do for your looks as a kid is to try and minimize the comparison that's so prevalent in teenage years (exacerbated by the internet), and instead shift the focus to your general health. Are you eating nutritious foods? Are you exercising regularly? Are you a healthy weight? Patience is a virtue, and confidence will come in time.

[@francheska2113]

facts

[@itsmetorigladys]

this is a great message i wish more teens could hear it!!!

[@brookenjonas]

I’m pretty sure I wanted a nose job before the age of 10 because of how much I got made fun of for it. I haven’t got one. Mostly because the procedure freaks me out.

[@toni2309]

As someone who is not a teen but going trough second puberty in their late 20s this is odd to read especially with the comment of @@n48_art. Confidence kinda decreased with time... I kinda am comparing myself with people my age, it's not helping...

[@itsmetorigladys]

@@toni2309 the above messages were along the lines of reminding people that teens are supposed to have an "awkward phase" and society use to know that but sm has literally erased teen faces/bodies and even children try to make themselves look like adults now. one well known parent (and probably many more) recently had even gifted their child plastic surgery vouchers for when they got older and decide what part, because there is aways one, they want to change about themselves. so insecurity will never go away and yes bodies do change but we have to do the inner work to accept the outer body we have to not get stuck in a loop of plastic surgery which is severely increasing in recent years with prevalence especially from celebrities weather they admit they had work done or not. i hope this makes sense like there is a really important message here and it's definitely not to make someone, who is going through more changes later in their young adult life, feel worse about themselves. mostly just that teens are impressionable and this is everywhere and its scary.

[@Aetriex]

With every day that passes I am more and more grateful that I never downloaded TikTok, or have ever felt the need to follow trends.

[@sunshell]

whether or not a topic is still “relevant” or “trending” id gladly watch you discuss it. youtube is the only social media im active on so im only vaguely aware of anything going on online, so i love hearing your pov

[@NK-snob]

This is insane. As a person with a long slim face, I always was jealous of people with more rounder cheeks and people with round faces, as it looks more youthful and fresh than my type of an anorexic-Tim-Burton-skeleton-character, even though I’m a normal-weighted person. So glad that I don’t have TikTok, the amount of dysmorphia issues there must be crazy

[@BabyBunny0411]

Ik this is a year later but it's so wild seeing this comment because i have round, full cheeks and like a broad jaw I inherited from my dad. And when I was little and even sometimes now I ENVIED girls with angular and longer thin faces. I never thought the reverse might also happen😭

[@Mgmorris98]

this reminds me of when buying and hoarding makeup was a trend. I was in high school making $7 an hour in 2013 and could not afford a $50 eyeshadow palette every 2 weeks so I just got my holy grails and accepted that I can’t participate in the trend. I am so much happier for it now that everyone is doing “anti-hauls” and criticizing the over-consumption. I couldn’t even consider paying for surgeries rn even though I’m 24 now with an actual salary, it’s just not worth it. another interesting point is that many people take out loans for these surgeries and are deeply in debt so that’s another thing to consider. most “rich” people are just borrowing 🤷🏼‍♀️ note: I recently deleted Instagram and I’m soooooo much happier without it

[@alice0601]

I've lost 120+ lbs and kept it off for over 8 years. I'm now very fit, and muscular. I wanted to be thin at one point, but now I like my body looking a bit thicker and athletic. However! I did get a tummy tuck Oct 2022 after saving for it for those 8 years. I had finally achieved a look I personally liked for myself, except for the excess skin no amount of exercise could ever get rid of (I tried for 8 years...). No part of me feels guilty or ashamed for my procedure because I did it for me and not for any standard of beauty. You are right that it's complicated that the standard may have influenced my feelings about the excess skin on my tummy, but for me, I just wanted it gone to see the efforts of my hard work through fitness. I finally have a body I like, and I'm not ashamed for it.

[@mandarinz69]

I recently rewatched Crashing, and a quote really stuck with me, "how does me being ashamed of my body help anyone" 🖤

[@SolitaryGem]

Watching this while recovering from a breast reduction and Idk how people undergo multiple surgeries. Even though I'm healing well, it's pretty painful and wouldn't want to experience this type of pain again. I was a G-cup at 5ft and losing 60lbs didn't help my boobs go away. So this was my last resort.

[@ingsYEAH]

I’m not on TikTok so I’d not even heard if this trend- really glad you’ve covered it + body trends in general. Thanks for doing this work Tiffany!

[@CinnamonBasic]

the thing i dislike about the discourse around this particular surgery is the way people talk about the cheeks after the procedure as ugly, gaunt, only possible if youre starved, etc., when my cheeks are naturally like this and Im not underweight. I wish people could lift up one look without putting down the other.

[@knivesnflowers]

as someone with hamster cheeks, aka a lot of collagen, i've been researching this since i was like 14 with a 'how the other half live' mentality. not that i was yearning to get it done the second i was old enough, but i genuinely couldn't imagine my face without my cheeks the way they are, even if they do give me an extra crease near my undereye and less defined jawline

[@judyh3707]

Right? I feel my face itself is not something I have any insecurity about anymore, so it would be really strange to see it change at this point.