Boeing Needs To Complete More Testing Before Undocking Starliner

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@ghost307
@ghost307 3 ай бұрын
Their optimism when talking about Starliner should be tempered with the knowledge of how much trouble they'd be in with their bosses if they said anything disparaging about the capsule.
@ryanr3737
@ryanr3737 3 ай бұрын
"Starliner is a go to return in an emergency." I read this as them saying that if the ISS were going to explode and everybody on board were guaranteed to lose their lives, then they'd roll the dice on returning in Starliner. A very careful choice of words, and not a huge vote of confidence in the spacecraft.
@tombowen9861
@tombowen9861 3 ай бұрын
hahah, The Gilligan's Island theme just played in my head. A Three hour tour to the ISS!
@JosephVE3GKT
@JosephVE3GKT 3 ай бұрын
😂
@snorman1911
@snorman1911 3 ай бұрын
Lol, how many seasons will this last?
@tombowen9861
@tombowen9861 3 ай бұрын
@@snorman1911 lol!
@TheDisgruntledImperial
@TheDisgruntledImperial 3 ай бұрын
Call me a conspiracy theorist, but the very fact that they even mentioned using something besides Starliner, means it's a very strong possibility behind the scenes. Edit: meaning, with how embarrassing this all is for Boeing, there's no way this would be brought up otherwise. Just conjecture.
@SpaceflightExplained
@SpaceflightExplained 3 ай бұрын
In my point of view, yes. Extremely
@KiRiTO72987
@KiRiTO72987 3 ай бұрын
Agreed or at the very least it means they're probably planning for the worst just in case
@JamesWoood
@JamesWoood 3 ай бұрын
Well since we are in conspiracy theory territory, My conspiracy theory is that they are deliberately waiting for the batteries to die, so they can use that as THE excuse. "The batteries have degraded faster than expected" (we'll use another vehicle). That way it's a softer blow rather than all of the other plethora of issues. They can still claim, the vehicle is still "safe" but the batteries died. There's just no way, they have certified it for 45 days then all of a sudden, oh yeah, it can last indefinitely now by the way, surprise! I wish my phone battery could magically last indefinitely all of a sudden. Now yes, when it comes to engineering there are unwritten margins but it would be extremely irresponsible to push into that unknown margin, it's always a hard stop with certified numbers. This aircraft wing can probably bend beyond it's certified load, but let's not go there. This bridge probably can carry a bit more weight that it's certified, but let's not risk that. This bus can surely survive carrying more than capacity but let's not overload it anyway. But with Starliner? all of a sudden we are okay with pushing uncertified margins of battery health? I'm not buying it.
@J4Jenius
@J4Jenius 3 ай бұрын
@@JamesWooodHonestly, that is brilliant
@Sam_Saraguy
@Sam_Saraguy 3 ай бұрын
@@JamesWoood I imagine that the capsule is drawing any needed power from the ISS, and that the batteries are essentially in trickle charging mode. But I like your way of thinking :)
@robertkerr4199
@robertkerr4199 3 ай бұрын
No matter what happens with Starliner, we can all rest easy knowing the exec's at Boeing are still being paid very well.
@lordgarion514
@lordgarion514 2 ай бұрын
Well, the head of Boeing got replaced. And let's keep in mind that the Union is in charge of the employees. The union hires and fires. It's Union employees that build the plane. It's Union employees that inspect the work that the people that build the plane do. It is not Boeing management bad, Boyd employees good. It is lazy, and sorry people from the top down. But I'd bet a paycheck that the union employees that clean the bathrooms, sweep the floor and maintain the break room, are doing their job excellently.
@geesehoward700
@geesehoward700 3 ай бұрын
ive never heard so many different spins of we dont know whats wrong with it but its all good, riiight? "we could leave at any moment but, errrrrrrrrrrrrr, we dont want to. yeah. we just want to check to see if our design is bad or our engineering is bad. also, just ignore all those leaks. they are, eeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrr, a cooling device. yeaaaaaaah. for cooling. yeahhhhhhhh".
@verypleasantguy
@verypleasantguy 3 ай бұрын
We only want to make sure our battery is not dead yet, and won't be dead in the middle of the journey home, that is why we must stay a little bit longer, to make sure that it won't die on us, to make sure that we will have a full charged battery when we reach home So, please be patience. We might be here on New Year's Eve, perhaps a little bit longer than that
@geesehoward700
@geesehoward700 3 ай бұрын
@@verypleasantguy The battery?? oh yeah, the battery. As we all know it takes at least three or four months to charge any battery so we will stay in orbit. Space is lovely this time of year and we wouldn't want the astronauts to miss out on that. Also how many people can we fit into a dragon capsule? Asking for a friend.
@_mikolaj_
@_mikolaj_ 3 ай бұрын
This comment reads as if it was written by a flat earther🤦‍♂️
@geesehoward700
@geesehoward700 3 ай бұрын
@@_mikolaj_ would be a weird comment for a flat earther to make since it's diametrically opposed to their core tenants. Can't really do space stuff in orbit around your mum if she's flat.
@_mikolaj_
@_mikolaj_ 3 ай бұрын
@@geesehoward700 claim all you want you are just a conspiracy theorist
@jamescobban857
@jamescobban857 3 ай бұрын
The Boeing manager responsible for the GarbageCanLiner should be ordered to perform a personal up close inspection of the thrusters, preferably without a spacesuit.
@reidsampey2045
@reidsampey2045 3 ай бұрын
I love your straight, no nonsense, presentation of space news. Thank you for all you do for all us space fans and keep up the great journalism. Well done!
@stevecam724
@stevecam724 3 ай бұрын
When NASA says August, they do mean August 2024?
@garreth629
@garreth629 3 ай бұрын
An August date before the ISS is retired and controlled re-entry by SpaceX. Which August that is, well, that's anyone's guess. 😂 This mission is only a failure if it returns at the same time as the international space station.
@armorer94
@armorer94 3 ай бұрын
Don't read too much into it. If they say august they mean august. The year is merely a decimal point.🙄
@cloudk2088
@cloudk2088 3 ай бұрын
This would be comical if people's lives weren't in Boeing's hands.
@zmblion
@zmblion 3 ай бұрын
At this point i would rather strap in on a cargo dragon to come home. Imagine going to work for a week to find out you cant leave for months
@ddegn
@ddegn 3 ай бұрын
I'd be thrilled to stay at the ISS for longer than planned. If it were more than a year, I might start to complain.
@NonBinary_Star
@NonBinary_Star 3 ай бұрын
lmfaooo
@ghost307
@ghost307 3 ай бұрын
@@ddegn Visitors and fish start to stink after a few days. I'd be an unhappy astronaut if I had to keep sharing my ice cream with visitors who were supposed to have been gone long ago.
@sanitychek
@sanitychek 3 ай бұрын
They are claiming they are at an operational level, but don't know why the thrusters don't work. These excuses about 'looking at thrusters'' for weeks and weeks just highlight the lack of any real maturity. They aren't getting any more data in space, and are even talking about more testing on the ground - tests that wouldn't be necessary if they knew what was going on. So the key risk issue is, what happens if they disengage from the station and then the thrusters stop working? I would have expected that they autonomously separated the Starliner from the staion, and tested out performance. That way if things stopped working, human's wouldn't be in the frame. And I guess that the Dragon docking at the end of the month is tied to that option.
@TubbyJ420
@TubbyJ420 3 ай бұрын
Boeing: this is fine.jpg
@erideimos1207
@erideimos1207 3 ай бұрын
Brilliant reporting as usual, thanks! I think all of us are missing a very important point. Shocker: They are stalling and hyping. Human flights have to have extra safety margins. So a crewed return is forbidden and crazy anyway. Therefore, if Suni and Butch do not go home with Starliner, 3 possibilities exist: (1) 2 out of 3 USA astros now on-board volunteer to stay another 6 months, and S+B come home in the next Dargon in August. (2) S+B volunteer to stay for another 6 months and two crew get bounced from the next Dragon, (3) or a combo thereof. [A special Dragon could be sent up or we could ask the Russians or Chinese, but no.] Stich even opened the door saying, "good thing we have two systems to get to the ISS" He meant of course, "Good thing we have one system to get to the ISS that works." Remember Boeing won't have another Starliner ready till summer 2025. And that was to be the first operational, i.e. paying, flight. Boeing will try to claim this flight was good enough for certification, but for a human flight, ya gotta be kidding me. 50/50 this is the last Starliner imo. My point is: If we are going to gift posterity with Starliner/Gilligan's Island theme song memes, we have to do it NOW. 😂🤣😅
@eddjordan2399
@eddjordan2399 3 ай бұрын
They really want to know what's going on with that supply module. What's interesting is that this wasn't worked out on the ground. Boeing used tobe all about the detail, i do understand that on most missions there is a glitch but launching with the glitch and not retesting the systems on the ground is crazy. Now this is like blind keyhole surgery.
@mathewferstl7042
@mathewferstl7042 3 ай бұрын
Dragon demo 2 launched with a helium leak
@raymondwarth2359
@raymondwarth2359 3 ай бұрын
I hope they check the bolts on the door before they try to land that thing.
@4rrxw794
@4rrxw794 3 ай бұрын
"The Starliner has to stay in orbit for two more weeks, it's completely safe and standard procedure, we need to understand how orbital traffic works." NASA's commercial crew program manager during teleconference with NASA and Boeing, Cape Canaveral, Florida, September 2077.
@Heat_Lance
@Heat_Lance 3 ай бұрын
Boeings are like jeeps; if it's leaking, it'll run. It's when it stops leaking that you should worry lol.
@hawkdsl
@hawkdsl 3 ай бұрын
That's funny! It's a Jeep thing!
@doltsbane
@doltsbane 3 ай бұрын
The ship flew unbelievably well, at least in the sense that it's completely unbelievable that it flew well. It's also true that we have two flight systems, the one that works reliably and the one that doesn't. It's sad that NASA has reached the careful parsing stage in their press releases.
@geesehoward700
@geesehoward700 3 ай бұрын
@@doltsbane the starliner is there to offer redundancy and they have made the most redundant ship possible.
@hawkdsl
@hawkdsl 3 ай бұрын
Starliner was a passenger on a rocket for most of the trip, so of course it "flew well". When Barry Wilmore said that, I lol'ed
@stratman103
@stratman103 3 ай бұрын
NASA. The organization that brought you Challenger and Columbia now scratches its head about helium leaks. It'll all be ok.
@OGdrodro
@OGdrodro 3 ай бұрын
i really hope if they get onto the starliner it returns safely
@DH-sw6vg
@DH-sw6vg 3 ай бұрын
Boeing Starliner is the spacecraft analogue of the Boeing 737 Max. 🤦‍♂ *_Future flights of Starliner???_* There shouldn't be any. Cancel it.
@ajm2872
@ajm2872 3 ай бұрын
Off topic, but your speech in this video was fantastic. You sometimes have a bad habit of trailing off on your last word in each sentence, but in this video each sentence sounds strong and clear from beginning to end. 👍🏻👍🏻
@sokolum
@sokolum 3 ай бұрын
If I was the astronaute for Boeing, I would be pissed AF. This is ridiculous, family waiting and you stuck on ISS, you don’t hear them.
@lyricbread
@lyricbread 3 ай бұрын
They’re test pilots. They knew the risk when they signed up for the mission.
@ddegn
@ddegn 3 ай бұрын
I doubt many astronauts mind spending extra time at the ISS. I'd think of it as a bonus.
@AutisticCuriosity
@AutisticCuriosity 3 ай бұрын
And that is maybe why ya not an Astronaut 😂
@billmalec
@billmalec 3 ай бұрын
Think about it this way... You get many more days up there you weren't counting on. What up everyday and the view must be incredible.
@ltdees2362
@ltdees2362 3 ай бұрын
@@ddegn Till they run out of toilet paper 😛
@WWeronko
@WWeronko 3 ай бұрын
I suspect SpaceX has hired the world's best space engineers and everyone else got the leftovers. The quality of Boeing engineers don't seem to be up to the challenges that Starliner has offered.
@sokolum
@sokolum 3 ай бұрын
Boeing’s scrum team are all based in India. Space-X are all USA. My guess.
@varukasalt
@varukasalt 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, and now Space-X is bleeding talent to other startups because they treat their employees like shit. Check out Stoke. They will drive SpaceX into the ground while Space Karen blows all his money on Starship pipe dream
@FerociousPancake888
@FerociousPancake888 3 ай бұрын
It’s really not that, it’s Boeings massive cost saving measures. They COULD hire engineers that are just as skilled as SpaceX, but they don’t. All Boeing is trying to do is make money whereas SpaceX both tries to make money AND has an actual vision/goals for the future. Boeing doesn’t do that.
@ARWest-bp4yb
@ARWest-bp4yb 3 ай бұрын
Boeing used to be an engineering company and now it's a management company.
@ghost307
@ghost307 3 ай бұрын
It's hard to have good morale when your every idea is shot down by some bean counters as being too expensive. Boeing needs to be run by people who give the final word to the Engineers, not to the MBA people.
@wbwarren57
@wbwarren57 3 ай бұрын
I have to agree, when Boeing says that “Starliner performed unbelievably well“. For anyone to say that any Boeing vehicle has performed well is unbelievabl
@ltdees2362
@ltdees2362 3 ай бұрын
.. Huston, we have a problem...with 2 extra astronauts we're running out of toilet paper 😎
@alainbelisle643
@alainbelisle643 3 ай бұрын
Let me fix this: the Boeing official statement says: "The Starliner capsule performed unbelievably well". The real statement in pure English is meant to be read as: "The Starliner capsule performed, unbelievably, well". That's the real honest statement.
@gravityawsome
@gravityawsome 3 ай бұрын
Maybe we should just leave it on the ISS at this point. Let it burn up on a re-entry
@ARWest-bp4yb
@ARWest-bp4yb 3 ай бұрын
Boeing still won't have figured out what the problem is by then!🤣
@dereks1264
@dereks1264 3 ай бұрын
They're saying that what they're going through is normal with a new spacecraft but I don't remember all these problems with the introduction of the crew/cargo dragons.
@_mikolaj_
@_mikolaj_ 3 ай бұрын
DM-2 was also extended to like 2 months but the public has memory of a goldfish i gues
@uther10
@uther10 3 ай бұрын
Hell. Wouldn’t want my signature on the reentry with all the questions.
@philipgrice1026
@philipgrice1026 3 ай бұрын
"We have two beautiful vehicles ... ". No. They have one beautiful vehicle and one that is years behind schedule, riddled with issues that should have been found before lift off and its NFFP, that is Not Fit For purpose.
@georgestone1485
@georgestone1485 3 ай бұрын
But the Boeing CEO got a 45%raise in pay from last year!!!! Why is anybody surprised at Boeing lousy perfornance thevoast decade????
@icare7151
@icare7151 3 ай бұрын
A used StarLiner is for sale on EBay. No warranty expressed or implied and price doesn’t include shipping from the ISS.
@rr6013
@rr6013 3 ай бұрын
What if it were true? SpaceX backup for Starliner is unprepared. Sure in event Staliner is stuck at station Dragon would fly on command. BUT in the case where Starliner fails on-orbit Dragon may need additional preparation to make capsule-to-capsule rescue attempt. This stalled undocking sequence may be buying SpaceX time
@drfranks1158
@drfranks1158 3 ай бұрын
that's a lot of imagination and speculation. There would be no capsule to capsule rescue... if it fails on orbit they DIE. At this point why even RISK their lives further, get them a rescue Dragon spooled up. And cancel every other boeing contract because they're so incompetent, they shouldn't be flying humans in space... they have enough trouble with atmospheric flight.
@louiscypher4186
@louiscypher4186 3 ай бұрын
There is no capsule on capsule attempt. Dragon is not designed for it. If the service module fails in orbit the only thing the crew can do is jettison the service module and try to deorbit using the re-entry thrusters alone.
@limitbreak2321
@limitbreak2321 3 ай бұрын
​@@louiscypher4186What about the modified dragon for polaris dawn, does it have those capabilities?
@louiscypher4186
@louiscypher4186 3 ай бұрын
@@limitbreak2321 I don't know.
@stevensmith797
@stevensmith797 3 ай бұрын
they are not talking about capsule on capsule docking , they are talking a crew dragon docking to iss and getting them of , if something go,s wrong in flight of starliner , the crew is in trouble , they were never ment to dock with each other , and a space walk to get to dragon is out of the question
@SebastianWellsTL
@SebastianWellsTL 3 ай бұрын
Somebody should tell Boeing this isn't the 90s anymore! 😂
@mikegoerisch55
@mikegoerisch55 3 ай бұрын
I’m glad these guys weren’t in charge of bringing Apollo 13 home.
@michaelreid2329
@michaelreid2329 3 ай бұрын
Guys, listen up: we'll stop issuing revision to the return date and carry on as normal. We can return one Starliner crew at a time and voila, everyone will forget about it. That's the plan now let's get back to sleep.
@stevecam724
@stevecam724 3 ай бұрын
This is so funny 😂😂 The testing and analysis of the Starliner's (sounds like the name of an old Greyhound bus) propulsion and fuel systems is being conducted on earth because they can't figure out why. I can tell NASA why, because they gave a truck full of cash to a company like Boeing who are demonstrating that "profit above safety" is their creed, bravo NASA, bravo.
@emptiester
@emptiester 3 ай бұрын
Boeing gets paid upon completion of the contract. They havent gotten anhyhing but heartache yet. Boeing has actually publicly said they wont do anymore fixed price contracts as a direct result of their recent shortcommings. They are done and they know it.
@marks7502
@marks7502 3 ай бұрын
thnx
@Hattusa
@Hattusa 3 ай бұрын
You'd think they could suit up for a spacewalk or something idk. Even if nothing went wrong, wouldn't you want to collect that live test flight data?
@FerociousPancake888
@FerociousPancake888 3 ай бұрын
This isn’t the Apollo days. We shouldn’t be having spacecraft where you must take over manual control for over an hour. It’s supposed to be a backup option and Dragon has proven you don’t even need them anymore. This is 2024 and embarrassing tbh.
@billmalec
@billmalec 3 ай бұрын
If it were the Apollo era, they'd be back after having been on the moon!
@verypleasantguy
@verypleasantguy 3 ай бұрын
Blame it on the automatic transmission --- nowadays people don't know how to drive manual anymore
@stevenobrien557
@stevenobrien557 3 ай бұрын
You mean Apollo where a test crew had already burnt to death on the ground? That Apollo?
@geesehoward700
@geesehoward700 3 ай бұрын
@@stevenobrien557 can't burn to death if all the fuel leaks out first and the batteries flat. Boeings always thinking about safety.
@stevenobrien557
@stevenobrien557 3 ай бұрын
@@geesehoward700 Fuel leak? Were you homeschooled by any chance?
@varukasalt
@varukasalt 3 ай бұрын
This should be the first and last crewed Starliner. Even if it worked it's too expensive and already obsolete. Enough with the sunk cost fallacy. End this madness now.
@plainText384
@plainText384 3 ай бұрын
How is it a sunk cost fallacy? NASA isn't paying Boeing additional funds, they already paid for Starliner launches through to the end of the ISS. Canceling it now would just be NASA throwing away everything inches before the finish line, waisting a bunch of taxpayer money. No, Boeing agreed to the fixed price contract, and now they need to deliver what they promised, NASA should NOT release them from their contract obligations early.
@ghost307
@ghost307 3 ай бұрын
We can only hope.
@emptiester
@emptiester 3 ай бұрын
Still cheaper than orion.
@louiscypher4186
@louiscypher4186 3 ай бұрын
​@@emptiesterFor now. Boeing is currently trying to convince congress to change its NASA contracts to cost+.
@_mikolaj_
@_mikolaj_ 3 ай бұрын
Falcon 9 just got grounded and this is the very good reason on why you are wrong
@alainbelisle643
@alainbelisle643 3 ай бұрын
Boeing's crewed flight program has 2 vehicles. One is a Trabant and the other one is a Lada. For the price of 12 Ferraris. The first version of the vehicle, which we never saw, was scrapped because of how heavy coal is, the napkin math became clear, too heavy for takeoff. Once they performed a taxpayer funded research for converting Stones to Pounds, and then to Kilograms, it became evident. Sad. It would have been another victory for steam.
@edp2260
@edp2260 3 ай бұрын
I don't believe anything they say.
@_mikolaj_
@_mikolaj_ 3 ай бұрын
Then dont comment what they do.
@mbj__
@mbj__ 3 ай бұрын
It is safe to say that NASA and SpaceX are very likely working on a backup plan
@karlp8484
@karlp8484 3 ай бұрын
The only biggest spin doctor than Boeing is NASA.
@wasp586
@wasp586 3 ай бұрын
Very reassuring. If staying on the ISS becomes life threatening, it's ok to use SL to get away ... 🙈
@NavyVet4955
@NavyVet4955 3 ай бұрын
The name of your channel should be what Boeing called the starliner
@billmalec
@billmalec 3 ай бұрын
I'm givin' er all she's got Capain!
@kevinmello9149
@kevinmello9149 3 ай бұрын
Just curious, not saying they're stuck up there, but could Dragon even transport astronauts wearing different suits? Has SpaceX come up with generic seats and adapters to take different space suits than theirs?
@damienkramer
@damienkramer 3 ай бұрын
You raise a good point about commonality with equipment and flight gear. I honestly don’t know the answer but until you mentioned it I hadn’t even considered it as a potential issue.
@kevinmello9149
@kevinmello9149 3 ай бұрын
@@damienkramer I remember reading that SpaceX suits are custom fitted to Dragon's seats, and other suits won't work
@Lost-In-Blank
@Lost-In-Blank 3 ай бұрын
The contingency plan is for a Dragon capsule to go up with the 2 Dragon suits already made that fit Suny and Butch.
@kevinmello9149
@kevinmello9149 3 ай бұрын
@@Lost-In-Blank can they do that without the astronauts there to model the suits? From everything I've seen, the SpaceX suits are pretty much custom fit to the user.
@Lost-In-Blank
@Lost-In-Blank 3 ай бұрын
@@kevinmello9149 using a dragon capsule to return in an emergency has always been the plan, so I assume all necessary measurements have been taken already. Maybe even the suits have been put together. I think the thing is that Dragon suits are simple compared to NASA's 20 year old bulky design and there would not be space for them in a dragon capsule seat.
@unfundedopportunities7278
@unfundedopportunities7278 3 ай бұрын
Do you think SpaceX has started making the two fight suits?
@jxpat
@jxpat 3 ай бұрын
It's leaking! It will continue to leak until there's nothing left to leak. Studying the leaking won't change the real problem, which is poor quality control.
@eddjordan2399
@eddjordan2399 3 ай бұрын
its not leaking they have closed the manifolds.
@Nowhereman10
@Nowhereman10 3 ай бұрын
There are no leaks occurring while Starliner is docked to ISS since the manifolds are closed.
@selectthedead
@selectthedead 3 ай бұрын
The more I hear about this, the more I believe I did next to no Simulations or tests on the ground!
@AuralioCabal-nl8gi
@AuralioCabal-nl8gi 3 ай бұрын
Shades Giliggan and the Minnow as the two astronauts are MARRONED in the ISS, an 8 day mission starches to weeks?,... close to 2 months?
@Coocoocachoo809
@Coocoocachoo809 3 ай бұрын
Boeing is a waste of taxpayer dollars. There is a CLEAR winner in the commercial crew program.
@Joe-xq3zu
@Joe-xq3zu 3 ай бұрын
And considering how little time is left on the lifespan of the ISS, I really can't see any justification for continuing this clearly failed boondoggle. If Boeing had managed to actually deliver a functional craft five years ago alongside Space X then the two provider argument might have held air, but at this point it's just pure waste.
@plainText384
@plainText384 3 ай бұрын
​@Joe-xq3zu NASA already contracted between 2 and 6 Boeing Starliner flights under the Commercial crew contract, and there's no point in NASA paying Boeing but then waving their right to the post certification flights. Boeing signed a contract and they should be held to it.
@4rrxw794
@4rrxw794 3 ай бұрын
SpaceX with Crew Dragon🎖Dreamchaser is a much better choice than Stuckliner for a backup space taxi also because it offers features that Crew Dragon does not.
@rudypieplenbosch6752
@rudypieplenbosch6752 3 ай бұрын
pretty sure the astronauts said, we're not returning in that thing, period.
@dissaid
@dissaid 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Man!
@billmalec
@billmalec 3 ай бұрын
Thought you said... New?
@A_piece_of_broccoli
@A_piece_of_broccoli 3 ай бұрын
You know what ruins stocks? Not being honest with the world when you mess up, and the scale of this mess up is beyond measure.
@scott6129
@scott6129 3 ай бұрын
And now Falcon 9 is grounded. So, no Dragon to the rescue, at least until the investigation is complete. Back to depending on Soyuz. There's no way I'd feel safe on a Soyuz. They've had problems with the last two Soyuz capsules, two bad leaks in a row. I'd feel safer on Starliner. It's not a pretty picture right now.
@KenNeumeister
@KenNeumeister 3 ай бұрын
Unbelievably
@Lost-In-Blank
@Lost-In-Blank 3 ай бұрын
Engineering wise, it would be the most unbelievable professional misconduct to claim that the Starliner acceptance test has been passed, no matter what happens now. Yes, leave Starliner docked to ruin more tests. But no way in the world should Starliner undock and attempt to return to earth with humans on board. The acceptance test has failed already, since the thruster and the helium piping system have both failed. The acceptance test will need to be re-run. The return-to-earth phase test can be run with an un-crewed Starliner.
@itskevinjustkevin
@itskevinjustkevin 3 ай бұрын
It's kind of daft to watch the launch in retrospect. To see those poor innocent pilots, unbeknownst to them that their tin can is gonna be on a one way trip to the ISS
@albin2232
@albin2232 Ай бұрын
Did the hatch fall off yet?
@Zebred2001
@Zebred2001 3 ай бұрын
It needs to be tested in the scrap yard crusher!
@nakfan
@nakfan 3 ай бұрын
Well, hasn't it been a downhill phase all the time?
@joelweinert3580
@joelweinert3580 3 ай бұрын
Luckily they have 2 vehicles, so if one yugo doesn't work they can use the other.
@sandbridgekid4121
@sandbridgekid4121 3 ай бұрын
Remember the main problems are in the expendable servicd module, which will burn up in atmosphere, so Boeing and NASA need to collect all possible data.
@emptiester
@emptiester 3 ай бұрын
Thats all well and good but they still have to get off the dock port. I believe thats the unspoken concern at this point. Uneven thruster performance during undocking has a range of potential outcomes. None of them good. Its one thing to have a faulty thruster. Its entirely different to have an unpredictable unexplained faulty thruster.
@Lost-In-Blank
@Lost-In-Blank 3 ай бұрын
Yes, agreed. But then return Butch and Suny to earth safely. No reason to risk their lives by having them burn up on a return to earth once Boeing has all of its data.
@junwson
@junwson 3 ай бұрын
so they're not admitting there's an issue? or not? they shouldn't certifiy this.
@FrankensteinDIYkayak
@FrankensteinDIYkayak 3 ай бұрын
often times the saying shit rolls downhill gets uttered.will the responsible partyat boeing get the blame or will they let the shit roll downhill and blame others?
@emptiester
@emptiester 3 ай бұрын
Boeing will blame aerojet. Again.
@chrisantoniou4366
@chrisantoniou4366 3 ай бұрын
The sort of testing of the thrusters now being performed on Earth should have been done a long time ago. Five thruster failures due to a design issue (overheating in "normal" use) should have been picked up and rectified years ago. As for keeping the Starliner on the ISS until testing is completed, WHY? Surely you aren't going to learn anything new on a spacewalk or anything, so the only reason for keeping Starliner there while the testing is completed is because you're doubtful about the performance and safety of the vehicle on its return to Earth. Using a bunch of weasel words like those used at 5:45 to 6:15 is disingenuous at best!
@antonnym214
@antonnym214 3 ай бұрын
Why all these delays and insisting on using the StarLemon to bring Butch and Suni home? So Boeing can avoid embarrassment? Too late for that! Bring our people home on a Crew Dragon!
@ddegn
@ddegn 3 ай бұрын
"Why" Have you been watching the related videos on the topic? The why is explained multiple times.
@TheTitaniumSkull
@TheTitaniumSkull 3 ай бұрын
@@ddegn Too late, Too much money. And the norm for Boeing to have problems across all platforms. Leadership change will not be enough to fix Boeing.
@ddegn
@ddegn 3 ай бұрын
@@TheTitaniumSkull Does that have anything to do with my statement that "why" has been explained multiple times? It's fine (with me) to hate Boeing. It's also fine not to believe their reasoning. It just seems silly to ask questions which have been answered many times. I think NASA has been wasting money with Boeing. At the same time, I'm sure the astronauts will be returning on Starliner.
@Hamish_Whitehaven
@Hamish_Whitehaven 3 ай бұрын
Boing Starliner MAX
@SirDeanosity
@SirDeanosity 3 ай бұрын
The ground based test article has not been subject to the stress and vibration of launch. This ground testing is similar to getting to the root cause of a plane crash. Not gunna happen this calendar year.
@Kemulnitestryker
@Kemulnitestryker 3 ай бұрын
NASA spent approximately $5 billion of our tax dollars in order to send a closet to the ISS.
@ARWest-bp4yb
@ARWest-bp4yb 3 ай бұрын
🤣🤣
@gmarie701
@gmarie701 3 ай бұрын
Essentially nothing the corrupt Biden cabal touches has worked out well. Just add this to the giant trash pile they are leaving for someone else to come in and clean up, again.
@FerociousPancake888
@FerociousPancake888 3 ай бұрын
But but but….is a BOEING closet 🥰🥰🥰
@marksmadhousemetaphysicalm2938
@marksmadhousemetaphysicalm2938 3 ай бұрын
it’ll return to Earth after testing is complete in 2030…
@NonBinary_Star
@NonBinary_Star 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@MrGrandure
@MrGrandure 3 ай бұрын
Boeing up to their shenanigans again
@philippostiglione2011
@philippostiglione2011 3 ай бұрын
This is not the time for testing. It is time to get the vehicle down safely and then junk it. Boeing should not be awarded any new contracts. It's leadership needs to be replaced with competent managers and the companies culture needs to be renewed.
@311superfly
@311superfly 3 ай бұрын
Out of comments. Sorry
@MD.ImNoScientician
@MD.ImNoScientician 3 ай бұрын
Boeing seems so disappointing. All this testing should have been performed years ago, problems recognized, then corrected. Boeing doesn't care.
@petenikolic5244
@petenikolic5244 3 ай бұрын
Boeing needs to man up and admit the screwed up big time . time to jettison the darn starloser and get Elon to send a Crew Dragon up
@martinlisitsata
@martinlisitsata 3 ай бұрын
People , its made by BOEING one way or another it will hit the ground
@raducristiandumitrescu1806
@raducristiandumitrescu1806 3 ай бұрын
What a crappy images from NASA even today, shame on you nasa !!!!!!
@josephpeluchette191
@josephpeluchette191 3 ай бұрын
Better be sure you have a will bieing is serious about coverups
@hankhound
@hankhound 3 ай бұрын
Boeing and SpaceX are great arguments capitalism
@inkbold8511
@inkbold8511 3 ай бұрын
It’s dead Roger!
@FishyAltFishy
@FishyAltFishy 3 ай бұрын
can we stop funding failure?
@Rizzler420-uh4yd
@Rizzler420-uh4yd 3 ай бұрын
Boeing design is insufficient
@uuzd4s
@uuzd4s 3 ай бұрын
I'm surprised NASA lets that womans hair hang out like that, meaning it's likely going to be found everywhere before long. I worked in commercial aviation for 2+ decades and have seen the HEPA filters used to clean cabin air when they are due for a change. They are NASTY and consist of mostly hair & human skin particles. She needs to tie that down.
@topojeejoe
@topojeejoe 3 ай бұрын
Sooo, with all this testing and the Helium still leaking, there won't be enough of anything to bring the crew home except Dragon.
@mathewferstl7042
@mathewferstl7042 3 ай бұрын
The helium is not leaking whilst docked to the ISS.
@WatZ-In-Ur-Head
@WatZ-In-Ur-Head 3 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@worldofrandometry6912
@worldofrandometry6912 3 ай бұрын
If my fuel tank were leaking I'd try to get home as fast as I could, but then I'm not a rocket scientist.
@mathewferstl7042
@mathewferstl7042 3 ай бұрын
The helium is not leaking whilst docked to the ISS.
@tigertiger1699
@tigertiger1699 3 ай бұрын
Lot of talking… just get it right…
@wargor
@wargor 3 ай бұрын
Big failure. Just have spaceX bring them home and abandon this disaster. I wouldn't feel comfortable piloting that crap home.
@roberthayes5037
@roberthayes5037 3 ай бұрын
Starliner is a complete failure, period.
@lyricbread
@lyricbread 3 ай бұрын
Last.
@arthurmario5996
@arthurmario5996 3 ай бұрын
this is so embarrassing..... maybe we should ask the russians for another soyuz ride
@christdimiyoka890
@christdimiyoka890 3 ай бұрын
Space x
@phvaguiar
@phvaguiar 3 ай бұрын
ur tone is boring.
@SpaceflightExplained
@SpaceflightExplained 3 ай бұрын
Then don't boost this video for the algorithm
@ghost307
@ghost307 3 ай бұрын
It's hard to get a robot voice excited.
@TheMoneypresident
@TheMoneypresident 3 ай бұрын
People hating on Boeing also watch Ancient Aliens and agree with the theories.
@hupekyser
@hupekyser 3 ай бұрын
so anyone who criticises starliner for being unsafe or a waste of money is a fringe crackpot conspiracy theorist?
@ddegn
@ddegn 3 ай бұрын
How could you possibly know this?
@SpaceflightExplained
@SpaceflightExplained 3 ай бұрын
... and you'd trust this spacecraft with your life?
@TheMoneypresident
@TheMoneypresident 3 ай бұрын
@@SpaceflightExplained yes
@LooksLike-om4df
@LooksLike-om4df 3 ай бұрын
No, most are just really stupid.
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