World of Warships - Explanation Required

[@DontPanicVU]

Jingles: You need to switch between ammunition types to do well in the Scharnhorst Val: Never touches the 1 key in the entire battle.

[@mangrey2361]

The HE is abslute Arse on that boat they do less damage they IJN 8 inch HE

[@JesusKreist]

Yeah ... Because Jingles is not correct on this one. The HE on a Scharnhorst is absolutely garbage due to the low caliber gun and only viable for starting fires. The fire chance is relatively good but not even close to british flamethrower BB's. Hell even shooting at destroyers the HE isn't superior ... You almost always are better off peppering superstructures with AP. Back when the Scharnhorst was new Jingles advice hold true. But the ship has been nerfed a couple of times and most newer ships are better armored.

[@charithwijesinghe3547]

Actually jingles has point, when you get uptiered and have to face izumos and musashis you're pretty much stuck with the pitiful He.

[@CeesaX]

@@charithwijesinghe3547 You're absolutely correct. Top tier Scharn can stick to AP and be fine, but bottom tier Scharn has to switch to HE when it sees a T9 BB go bow in and doesn't have any other targets.

[@JesusKreist]

@@charithwijesinghe3547 Yes ... No ... Kinda ... Maybe ... Thing is the damage of the HE Shells is that bad that even with the special HE penetration the german ships have you will get shatters on the deck and large parts of the superstructure leaving only the fires to do damage while the AP can at least often penetrate the superstructure and do damage. Keep in mind fire damage can be healed to full extend while AP damage can't. Only at extreme ranges the HE has slightly better performance since the relatively light AP shells loose a lot of effectiveness with range. But being slightly better than crap is still crappy. Uptiered EVERY ship in WoWs has problems. Unlike WoT where some Tanks (looking at you KV-2) don't care about tiers. Aside from destroyers maybe because you can't kill what you can't see ...

[@Studio-7V]

Val here! Remember, always toot your horn when you wanna brawl :)

[@TheZombieNL]

choo f*cking choo!

[@paulvamos7319]

GG Mate!!

[@armorhand3332]

Brawling aint dead.

[@Ned-Ryerson]

Are you in any shape or form Maltese? Nice work.

[@natjozsa695]

Brawling ain't dead

[@NilsonNeo4]

Title should have been "brawling ain't dead"

[@ikko93]

Brawling is dead. He was just lucky to have so many Idiots on 1 Place. Possible his best Match for his enire life

[@mitchelloates9406]

At the higher tiers - Tier 10 in particular - it's for the most part dead - but down at the mid and lower tiers, where it's still somewhat fun to play the game, it's still alive and well.

[@plektosgaming]

@@ikko93 If you look at the stats, this is one of only 3 or 4 ships that can still pull off brawling any more due to the immense secondary damage (160K+ dpm) and the high enough speed to dodge incoming fire. It still has a high skill floor, though, since yolo moves like we see here will rarely work. Though, it will melt enough of the enemy in the above situation to win the game for your team if done right. IMO, though, it's great, but wow every volley of HE seems to set it on fire. It's like the decks were made of wood or something... ;)

[@NoNegotiations]

They are RARE. Almost every game I go into, there's 4-5 BB sitting all the way in back, even those ships that can brawl. WG are trying to destroy the game, if they haven't done so already.

[@plektosgaming]

@@NoNegotiations The fix for this is to change the skill to also include "detected by an enemy", so that carriers can fly over and turn off the skill every time they pass by. (same with a destroyer detecting you while hiding) So it turns into the game evolves, one team mops up the center, and then the guys die the back die without making an impact on the game, barring lucky sniper shots.

[@dennisswartz4937]

I've always thought the Scharnhorst was an absolutely gorgeous ship.

[@plektosgaming]

I love it because it's outfitable 4 or 5 different ways and is always a different game every time. The perfect spot for it is in the middle of a bunch of smaller ships as long as you can dodge the first torpedo volleys. After that, they just don't get a second one off or are so crippled that they are easy for your team to finish off. I don't know why, but they don't suffer from "I'm a destroyer!" syndrome like their Gneisenau counterparts.

[@alexcunningham2037]

Especially in the B camo

[@Shorjok]

Agreed, it's the one premium ship I actually want

[@TheAlexfrom1]

Exactly, my favorite ship in wwii

[@TysoniusRex]

Scharnhorst and Gneisenau are two of my favorites. The first because it's a serious brawler and the second because I love its 15" rifles and speed. Torps are a plus, but rarely use them.

[@nimay13]

No CV, notice how entertaining this match is.

[@Ivy_TSG]

The most fun matches have no fun police involved.

[@Dukenukem]

@@Ivy_TSG surely no small feat of everybody is blind as a bat there as DDs are so used of not spotting

[@ainumahtar]

Yeah, I was thinking exactly that. Also, sure brawling aint dead...but it sure helps if 11 out of 12 enemies have no clue what they are doing, you're top tier AND the one decent enemy player is on the other flank holding off your entire tem so you can butcher the potatos in peace ^^

[@Matthew10950]

If only qargamming would listen. I havent played in two months. Dont know if I will go back.

[@JamLeGull]

Yeah the game is way less fun with CVs unless you have them cornered and can torpedo them while they’re trying to hit you with planes you swat out of the sky and dodge.

[@ewok40k]

Jingles, switching between 12 and 11 inches guns on Scharnhorst more than player changes ammo

[@Schnittertm1]

I still maintain that it has neither 12 nor 11 inch guns, but 28 cm guns. But then again, I'm German and I love my cm.

[@paulvamos7319]

@@Schnittertm1 CM = Cosplay Memes!

[@heirofrohan7865]

Good afternoon to all my mates watching around the world!

[@eagle223]

Good afternoon. Although it's morning for me.

[@doomturtle1216]

Good morning from me

[@codexhunter7836]

Evening from the island of Singapore

[@TheHughgee]

9:30pm on the east coast of Australia here! Have a good night!

[@leoo67899]

Good morning

[@korbell1089]

Jingles: "The ship is currently held together by masking tape and promises>" And that's why you need Gorilla Glue!

[@Algaean]

Hair today, gone tomorrow!

[@airplanenut89]

Flex Tape has already been proven to work on boats.

[@donwanna3906]

@@Algaean Gorilla Glue, when you find yourself in a hairy situation.

[@andreinarangel6227]

In the US Navy we use "BELZONA".

[@paulvamos7319]

Duck tape and bailing wire!!! XD

[@demerzel24]

The Scharnhorst is a close up brawler!

[@DevSolar]

Situational. It cannot take much of a beating, and against an enemy BB its guns are pretty worthless. But people should not forget that even a non-brawling BB still can take *more* punishment than a cruiser. It irritates me to no end when people sit their BBs at the back of the map "for deadeye" but don't hit anything because the enemies know how to use WASD hacks -- while the team gets slaughtered because the BBs save their HP pools until it is too late. So, brawler or not, get those BBs engaged, because you're supposed to put the backbone in your team, not trying your hand at extreme range sniping.

[@fudozanokamae2579]

That’s how I have mine set up!

[@hendrikdeputter6279]

val in the comments: choo f*cking choo :)

[@Mach-2-Fishbed]

I do like his use of the horn. If you're going to have that beefy Scharnhorst horn and you want to get up close, let them hear your war cry!

[@steeljawX]

WOWS is slowly becoming World of Trains. . . . .Thanks for the 2021 Memes, Jingles; because we all know warships are really just pain-trains on water.

[@jak3ild270]

Oh my goodness, With that kind of torpedo angle you don’t need any destroyer support.

[@fuamf]

Put my own title on it? Okay: "when carrying gets tough, the tough carries harder" xD xD

[@nicolasyates6988]

You win the internet. Take my like and go in peace

[@Nick-rs5if]

That one's actually pretty good! :o

[@fuamf]

@@Nick-rs5if, thx :)

[@tim1polman]

Where can I get enemies like that? Only for once would be nice.

[@02961]

easy. they are all in your team, ALWAYS!

[@fuglbird]

@@02961 YEP

[@frazzlef4601]

Jingles, yours is the only channel I don't skip the second advert on. You're welcome

[@eweron1]

One of my biggest fears is to be showcased in one of theese videos, cause god knows i've been to aggresive more than a few times...

[@Sunesen]

This match puts the "Random" in "Random Battle".

[@onepunchbud1472]

I have a really good WR with that ship. It's actually interesting - its not spectacular like a Musashi with her oneshots for example. It just always performs.

[@EA-History]

Nice to hear you are well again. I follow Dr. Alexander Clarke's history Channel ACnavalhistory, and he came with an explanation to how you can dine a ship being a battleship or battlecruiser. What defines a battlecruiser isn't the calibre of the guns, the armour, the size or even the speed. It generally comes down to the internal construction, the space between the frames tells a lot. The frames sits closer in a battleship. Structural frames are stronger and survivability generally better. Scharnhorst was classified by the germans as a battleship, with a battleship hull, although a Light one for its time. And with Light guns, reason is not to alarm the Western Powers too much. Hood had greater armament, same armour thickness as the Queen Elizabeth class, but with a longer hull and weaker frames.

[@lunacae18]

Last time I was this early, carriers required skill to use. Dang.

[@napiersliberty]

early asf

[@Xiphactinus]

You know what, I think one thing that would make CVs much more appreciated would be to be able to control fighter squadrons, making you be the Fun Police Police!

[@me-ib1zo]

@@Xiphactinus that would be great, and catapult fighters that actually did something The ability to vector planes in a direction would also be nice, instead of catapult fighters going with the "carriers will always get a strike off" and then engaging.

[@mazurbn]

When you coming off night shifts to days and need the sweet lick of the salt mines to stay awake

[@Goodman-4525]

Ahhh ... The feeling of watching a good brawl in a torpedo battleship

[@UrSneakyDad]

Doesn't emerald get a smokescreen as well? Both of them didn't use it 😂 what were they doing.....

[@Peterax788]

I missed the shiny horse a lot, especially in brawling mode. It was fun to see it again, also jingles today it seems all Emeralds want to die today. Even I got three Emerald in my Kirov in WoWsB

[@peanut1412]

Bro R u on a wows meme account GC

[@peanut1412]

Dude I’m Matt bruh

[@Peterax788]

@@peanut1412 ah no why? WoWs meme account GC? on insta?

[@slateslavens]

Jingles, you caught the "brawling ain't dead" but missed the "choo fucking choo" as he mashed the previous BB.

[@bradleysmith6599]

I love when a death ride turns out to be so successful it's no longer a death ride.

[@andreiandy3922]

My dear Scharnhorst being featured in a Jingles video is all I need for today!

[@FazekasPK]

Insert Sterling Archers quote: RAAAAAMPAAAAGE!

[@cybersquire]

Glad to hear you’re feeling better!! We can’t lose you ;)

[@johnapppel64]

The only thing missing from that epic death ride was "The Ride of the Valkyries" playing in the background.

[@altiramoongara9968]

Most battle cruisers are up armored cruisers armed with battleship guns, the Scharnhorst is a fast battleship armed with cruiser guns.

[@holabandola74]

"held togheter by masking tape and promises" THAT i must remember lol, i love your phrases Jingles ;)

[@snailboi6902]

6:40 "The Konig on his port side..' Jingles, Jingles, Jingles.. never change.

[@OSUfan1231]

Shameful... he’s former navy too... maybe the Swiss navy?

[@neometallX]

Deadeye on a Scharnhorst? *Cough* You mean close quarters expert Scharnhorst?

[@davidlabedz2046]

Jingles, fun commentary on a most unusual match. Val played very well. Impressive that so few torpedoes were fired in this game.

[@AndrewLale]

Val: plays like a complete potato, gets away with every kind of noob move Justice: nowhere to be seen

[@ToTlToT]

to get games like this you need: A shit enemy stack A somehow even more shitty teammate stack, but not too shitty No CV or noob enemy CV. When all three stars align, you get great carry games such as this.

[@xtevenq1811]

Me casually waiting for next year to get a flying boat for $80k and they're all on crypto.

[@tatumreport5991]

What is this Crypto and why are people investing money in it..?

[@advayadvaith2841]

@@tatumreport5991 crypto is a trading system that generates more money for you when you get into the portfolio trading

[@chiomqab3074]

@Jaime Jaime Tempting but me still searching for a reliable and trusted investment to go into and not joining an investment that may lead to a big scar in the future

[@kartelhenry7822]

@@rubenw8452 I have heard a lot about crypto trading it is really profitable as people say it is?

[@tobiaswitsel6278]

That is an awesome return on investment right there..

[@matthiasbecker5064]

As of right now, the Scharni is one of the few ships I think of as 'fun' ship. Very good speed, good guns (which sometimes troll you), good torps and nicely agile.

[@noob4life1981]

Try the Massa, lots of secondaries, lots of fun ;)

[@kabamm2201]

Jingles. I need to inform you. Your one of the few reasons I have stayed sane these past few months, thanks for being the amazing person you are sir.

[@JónThórirThorvaldsson]

Yay, video of the day :D morning gents

[@Gerk45]

Scharnhorst is indeed a brawler, much yolo, many laughs.

[@lazibayer]

Shingles: torping BBs went out of fashion. Me in my GK: hear that Shimakaze!

[@Quackerilla]

Scharnie's got good enough guns, but the fun is in the secondaries.

[@neomotau6127]

thats why i use my GK captain on my scharnie,i dont play it much cos T7 mm is brutal......you can only tolerate being bitch slapped by Musashis and georgias so many times

[@Drache191200]

Before the commander/captain rework, i played the Schiney horse like an over sized DD

[@carlekman5524]

Torpedoing Battleships was 2020, now its 2021 so its the year of Battleships torpedoing Destroyers

[@arduous222]

4:22 I believe this is what happens if the player momentarily loses connection, for example, the client crash.

[@trinigaming5664]

I really wanna commend jingles for how consistently high in entertainment his content is. As someone who’s played at most one game of ships and knows as good as nothing about the game yet stayed for the entirety of all videos and always had a laugh and enjoyed it to the point of clicking the next video. I can definitely learn a thing or two from him🤣🤣 Keep up the good work!

[@scottdrone-silvers5179]

Long live brawling and secondaries! My Massachusetts hasn’t gotten that memo either...

[@longrider42]

Neither has mine.

[@jamesfogel7998]

Nor has mine!

[@AzzySunfire]

Yeah! Long live the brawler Massa!

[@markthompson8656]

I can't help but laugh When you do Jingles.

[@aarondavis6127]

Out of all the games I've watched this one was the most craziest one I've ever seen

[@deadshotgaminn3150]

Can we take a moment to simply appreciate Jingles and his great content. Lets gets 1000 likes to show him some appreciation

[@massimothetrog7111]

That horn sounds great.

[@lexwaldez]

I've only ever learned two things from the Claus Kellerman's school of WarGaming. You can't have a great game without just the right number of muppets on both teams and, if in doubt, always go back to defend your base.

[@GuyParody]

perfect song for 5:40 Judas Priest: All Guns Blazing Twisting the strangle grip Won't give no mercy Feeling those tendons rip Torn up and mean Blastmaster racks the ground Bent on survival Full throttle hammers down A deadly scream All guns, all guns blazing Forced into overdrive Drawn out of anger All talons poison dipped Impaling spike Heart pounding fever pitch Blood pumping fury Two fisted dynamo Eager to strike All guns, all guns blazing Cross cutting thunder charge Blade of destruction Flame throwing hurricane Destroys the cage Bone crushing alien God of salvation Sad wings that heaven sent Wipes out in rage All guns, all guns blazing

[@Beowulf-sd5gh]

And that is why I dearly love the Scharnhorst. Its the only ship I paid for and it was money well spend. Tons of fun once you figured out how to play it.

[@airplanenut89]

Jingles if I remember how Drachinifel explained it, the ideas on what a battlecruiser is are sort of swapped between the British and Germans. The British went with battleship caliber guns on a hull with less armor than a battleship, and the Germans went the opposite by putting sub-battleship caliber guns on a battleship hull. Scharnhorst does indeed have thicker armor like a battleship but uses 11in guns long after the 12in gun had been considered the minimum for a battleship, as well as at a time when the most common low end caliber was at about 14in for battleships. So by this logic, Scharnhorst is very much a German style battlecruiser. Edit: Also that Gade might have lost internet connection which still sucks but it means they might not be a scrub.

[@dizzyprepper7850]

6:36 "his portside secondaries blazing away." The Royal Navy is forever grateful to Mr Jingles for his service as a Ships writer. Lord knows, if he he was the Navigator or the Coxswain, then they would be truly f#*!ed. Mr Jingles, Port is left, Starboard is right. Never change, this is why we like you.

[@Salty_raven]

Of course the Sharnhorst plays like a battle cruiser! Because that's exactly what she and her sister ship were.

[@mattkirby7154]

Jingles old mate, you always crack me up with your commentry

[@NukeFinity]

The people on the Scharnhorst really thought it can't be sunk. So less survived from that ship

[@petehjr1]

Surprised that you didn't play the Space Battleship Yamato theme there. "What the Entire Enemy Fleet is in front of us, right then, full ahead. FIRE."

[@AD-mf5ev]

At the end of the video I think the word you're looking for JIngles is: "Tadaaaaah!"

[@nacho71ar]

Secondary build ...check! German battlecruiser ...check! Actually thinking and playing to your ships strengths ...check! Well done man... wish had more teammates like you in randoms. GG!

[@napiersliberty]

The laughter of our Gnome Overlord always helps brighten the day. also #brawlinaintdead

[@gmon5000]

9:33 "The ship is currently held together by *masking tape and promises*..." You have a funny way of saying "duct tape and prayers", Jingles. 😄

[@PerStenback]

@2:17 A faint voice from Rita. Damn, that must be a really good microphone the admiral is using :)

[@NukeFinity]

Is this skill recommend in the Scharnhorst were you can switch AP and HE faster?

[@plektosgaming]

No. 20 seconds is plenty fast. Points are better spent on things that can keep it alive.

[@nonsencetom2554]

I just clicked this video to see if jingles is okay, now I can resume the video

[@kevinmooney2269]

LOVE your commentary, Admiral!

[@sacatomatos41]

Well, the California might have done a bit more than hide...#2 in XP...and the Cali is slow as molasses going uphill. Of course no one came close to Val's performance in the "Shiny horse". Fun match to watch, thanks as always for the content, Jingles!

[@-Floris]

12:47 I love torpedoing battleships, who doesn’t right 😂

[@larrylaurenzi1625]

Question, are the torpedoes contact torpedoes or magnetic torpedoes? What is the appraise depth under the hull for magnetic torpedos?

[@vanvan-oc4nj]

Nice Jingles, but what happened.....hangover...? Wow, bloody good ship fight !!!

[@Excedrine]

I like to think of Dead-Eye as a nice-to-have in case the opportunity presents itself to use it. I've gotten mixed results with it myself. I didn't let it change the way I play, either.

[@ainumahtar]

Unfortunately not true for 85% of the playerbase ^^

[@Excedrine]

@@ainumahtar Ain't that the fuckin truth.

[@rollingjukebox121]

Morning Jingles, Hope You're well. Glad your back! :)

[@jeaton1224]

Nobody: Jingles: “battle cruiser”

[@theAessaya]

Well, fwiw, the Royal Navy classified Scharnhorst and Gneisenau as Battlecruiser, and only after WW2 re-classified them as battleships, but even then, the confusing naming lived on. Germans themselves rated them as Battleships, and so did the US Navy. So there's that. Granted, the line between Battleship and Battlecruiser is extremely blurry and there's still a lot of arguments on what is what, to this day. It's all potAto/pOtato anyway...

[@jeaton1224]

@@theAessaya well what does the U.S classify them as?

[@grandadmiralraeder9608]

@@theAessaya So is the Alaska a 'battlecruiser', a 'battle cruiser', a 'super heavy cruiser', a 'super cruiser or a 'supercruiser'?

[@theAessaya]

@@jeaton1224 perhaps I wasn't clear on that bit: USN also classified Scharnhorst and Gneisenau as Battleships.

[@theAessaya]

@@grandadmiralraeder9608 I'm sticking with the official US Navy designation: "Large Cruisers."

[@theAessaya]

RE: Torpedoes -- I'd say Val's generous use of the WASD h4x didn't help enemies with landing torp hits either :)

[@plektosgaming]

That's how it is - you dodge the torps and they are dead. Or don't and die. IMO, that's the real skill you need to train, and it only comes from playing a lot of destroyers and fast cruisers and getting WASD enough to pull it off. I see two types of Scahrnhorst players - the WASD h4x angling armor types and the yoloboat ones who die. The skill floor on it is unfortunately a bit higher than what most "battleship" players are used to.

[@Studio-7V]

Haha rudder shift mod go brrr

[@lordnexustv8523]

Jingles, your videos are absolutely the best

[@donosprey8754]

The Scharnhorst is my favourite and most played ship and I have never ever used concealment expert on it.

[@sidai2030]

i'm a simple man: i see the shiny horse, i upvote

[@LordRenegrade]

I've never found the Emerald to be "made out of citadels". If anything, it doesn't HAVE a citadel, everything just seems to go through it. Like some big destroyer. IJN and USN cruisers on the other hand, ARE just floating citadels, in my experience.

[@guytrout7101]

Jingles, you mean being held together with duct tape and bailing wire as done in America

[@grantlee5737]

Watching this in my car before PT. Hooah

[@raymondjames57]

Dear God these videos kill me with how much I gotta learn with this game now, I never finished learning tanks 😆

[@keithw4920]

I am looking at your minimap from say 3:00 onwards and how nice, you team moves up evenly across both sides. Most games, 1 DD from my teamwould have YOLO died from rushing straight in and 1 BB would be hanging about behind the lines and maybe 1 CA would have detonated from showing broadside up front.

[@flounder31]

Can't believe Jingles missed the Pain Train in chat at 12:11 -- hilarious.

[@TRIARII117]

ah yes, the best way to play the scharnhorst. and the gneisenau for that matter

[@DEP1323]

Love the series.... Keep it going sailor.... “Fair Winds and Following Seas”

[@tabletgalaxy9942]

Hi Mighty Jingles, we LOVE YOU! Stay safe, stay cool! Greetings from Prague, Czech Republic!

[@GelatinCoffee]

that ram kill he said was very favorable towards the lower tier ship reminds me of a match in wot where i saw an arl 44 ram a t1 heavy from full health and they both died 😂😂, t1 spent the rest of the match hyping up the team and just being overly happy he ram killed a higher tier he usually has trouble penetrating

[@teamspeler7805]

"Brawling ain't dead" would have been a nice title

[@Skull-in-the-house]

Hangover better? just kidding hope you are well

[@plektosgaming]

Secondary build German Battleship with the speed to pull it off more than half of the time. It's one of the few ships that can actually brawl in the current meta. The damage per minute of the secondaries is vastly more than the main guns as well, at about 160K DPM without mods to increase it. It is a murder-box on water versus smaller ships. Add in the quick rudder module/upgrade, and it turns as well as most destroyers - and no destroyer is going to last long versus it. Does brawling work? Only if you are in one of the few battlecruisers that has enough speed to dodge slow battleship shells. And that's not many aside from this gem. The only downside is that no, it is not a Gneisenhau, and the torpedoes are just a defensive bonus. You are not a torpedo boat, so don't get killed like one.

[@dclark142002]

FYI, Jingles...the proper path to a German secondary battleship captain is to take the extra range and then the extra accuracy on the secondaries FIRST. You don't run into real fire breathing cruisers that you need FP against until the Gneisenau.

[@diabetichamm3776]

3 words to sum this video Pants on head

[@RecklessDevelopement]

and this video (right or wrong in method, yeah it worked THIS time) is the reason my only techtree group of BB's is KM ... "okay i'll just skirt around this island and get that g....*unknown enemy ships blink into existance* ... right.... turning in! bring it on! "

[@thegeneral123]

Scharnhorst is the opposite of a battle cruiser. It's a fairly lightly gunned battleship.

[@StupidDanimations]

The lesson? If you play against a bunch of drooling toddlers, and there's no CV, yes you can brawl.

[@tds6631]

I once went pushing with a pommern while in a minnesota the other day. Yes, I pushed in a minnesota. At 20 knots. He got 2 CCEs with 300 secondary hits, I somehow got one as well on a DD that was being an idiot.

[@Love2Cruise]

Scharnhorst with 12” guns. Oh Jingles...

[@nicholasmelby5361]

Scharnhorst is one of my favorite ships, not sure how you can't love it.

[@hunterhurley3307]

I keep coming back to this video it’s so dam funny