Bolt in or High Lift Cams and What They Mean for Your Harley Engine

You have a lot of camshaft options for your Harley engine, mainly bolt in style or a high lift. A bolt in cam is meant to fit directly into a Harley engine without any further modifications where a high lift cam will require valve train modifications. Even if you're willing to make those modifications for a high lift cam you may be spending more than you need to unless you plan on taking you're bike to the next level. A high lift cam really doesn't gain much more over a bolt in unless you have high compression and a set of ported heads. Depending on what your plans are it's important to choose wisely when it comes to a bolt in or high lift cam for your Harley engine.
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[@GixxerFoo]

Would you stick with a bolt in style cam or go all out with a high lift cam?

[@bradlozano2571]

A bolt on torque cam...If i was going high lift i would go all out and build the engine from the ground up..

[@gvaldezcurrie]

bolt In

[@thatoneguybrian2365]

I went high lift... But i also completely rebuilt the engine

[@donwaltman4276]

Definitely bolt in cam, I'm looking for low end torque. The extra horsepower is an added benefit.

[@robertprosser6856]

Bolt in.

[@juanirizarry6966]

My personal experience was this. I watched one of you past videos about cams and at the end you mentioned that you would prefer the wood performance TW-222 cam. I have a 2011 HD Ultra Limited and at the time had 60,000 miles. Being an aviation mechanic, I ordered the maintenance manual, decided to it myself and ordered the TW-222 cam, the S&S high-flow oil pump and cam plate kit, S&S lifters and all the associated gaskets. The motorcycle already had a stage 1 on it with RCX Excalibur slip-on mufflers, and HD screaming eagle centrifugal clutch, and after completion I had it tuned by Harley since they were very close to my house. I have to say that this 103 engine not only sounded completely different but felt like a completely different engine. To start, in the past you could feel the motorcycle begging for a shift. With the TW-222 you can literally blow the engine while the sucker still gains speed....it's insane. If you like to ride in low RPM, then this is for you. When I just barely open the throttle and very gently enter the friction zone, the centrifugal clutch bites down, or at least feels like it, and the engine does not lose a step. And of course, you need to get the hell out of heavy traffic or "that driver" without saying the obvious, you are gone, and not only that, but you don't really need to open the throttle that much before the motorcycle accelerate with a thunderous roar which I absolutely love. So yes, I agree absolutely with your take on bolt-in cams. Obviously, different people have different opinions but I suspect that all of us are looking for the most basic, yet important characteristics (Not necessarily in the same order): 1. Power 2. Torque and Acceleration 3. Low Cost 4. Sound Love your work...Stay Strong! v/r Juan

[@frankmarkovcijr5459]

Everybody goes on about how a Harley is a motorcycle that you just cruise on you don't buy it for berserk levels of horsepower. Yet the first thing you guys do is rip out the engine and do all sorts of horsepower stuff to it and it seems that you guys are never satisfied. 61 wasn't big enough, 74 not big enough, 80 cubic inches not big enough, then you had 88, 95, 103, 107, 114, 124, and now we're up to 131. It seems no amount of horsepower is ever enough for you guys. What I bought my 99 Harley Sportster 20 plus years ago and everybody kept saying turn your 883 into a 1200. I told them until the engine wears out completely, it has 370,000 miles on it, but the engine is still all original. I have a feeling the bike will Outlast me. More enjoyable and more reliable than I ever thought it was possible for a Harley. Love the sporty in all its Rusty duct taped Glory!!!

[@GixxerFoo]

I'm very partial to the Sportster myself, that Evo Sportster is pretty much bullet proof with proper maintenance. Honestly even with lack of maintenance they will keep on keeping on longer than anything else.

[@richardpitts6284]

My AMF sportster was one of the most reliable Harley's I have owned . I owned 7 others !

[@ez123ification]

This is the way!

[@jamesfalls3310]

How do I find Hammer Performance,that u recommend.

[@PunMidas]

Not everyone. Lol

[@jamessouthworth1699]

The garage has really changed since the sagging shelf. Sometimes I'm sad to see it gone. That thing was becoming your trademark and I was ready to take bets on when it was going to drop.

[@GixxerFoo]

That shelf for sure kept the suspense up, lol probably about time to change the garage up again and freshen it up some more.

[@hollywoodboggie]

My Woods 222 is the BOMB love it made my 96 reborn. Hot Rod! Thanks to you Gixxer.

[@GixxerFoo]

That is awesome to hear! Glad to hear you're enjoying it, those 222's will wake a bike up!

[@AmericanPatriot-cw9xe]

I just road my new road glide with the screaming eagle stage 2 cam n 114 motor vance n hines power duals n rinehart header for the first time yesterday all I can say is wow compared to my old ultra classic stage 1, this new bike throws you back n takes off like a rocket, no matter my speed when I twisted that throttle or down shifted or let off the throttel the sound was the loudest bark with authority and best sounding exhaust that me or my harley friends have ever heard putting almost 117 torque to the wheels but it feels much much more, it don't lack for power or sound n handled llike a dream, takes the turns like the bike is on rails, and the low speed manuveering is effortless, this is my 3rd harley dresser bagger and my favorite for sure, if anyone is on the fence about getting a cam just do it, no regrets here !!

[@GixxerFoo]

Those new M8's are quite impressive stock, you add even the SE torque cam in there and they really make some power for sure! Harley just puts power to the ground, they don't look impressive on paper but when you ride one it feels awesome!

[@mongohd9611]

Just put a set of S&S 551 easy starts in my 07 street glide, with new cam plate and oil pump. Like them alot, definitely woke up the low end on the old twin cam. One note on dry fitting cams… the cams do not rest all the way into the cam bearings when property seated, I found it better to place them in the cam plate first then check for clearances in the case. Good info as always, thanks.

[@GixxerFoo]

That's a excellent point on the twin cams, l haven't seen many issues with bolt in cams and clearances. Mostly the high lifts are where you need to check clearances but for sure take the time to do it.

[@jamessouthworth1699]

I went with the 509 S&S in my Dyna. I know it moves the power down the RPM range compared to the 510 but I rarely ride over 4000 RPM unless I'm on one of the 85mph Texas highways. Even then I push it to 90 and the bike seems to love it.

[@GixxerFoo]

Running 85 in Texas and you'll still get run over lol, well depends where you're at in Texas if those around you have a will to live or not on the highway.

[@jondoe8816]

i put 509 in my road king 88ci works well .. i thought the same as 510 was a touch to hot for my riding

[@joewilliams4841]

Love your channel! Just purchased the Andrews EV27 for my 92' heritage. After watching this video I should check lifters on my CVO 110.

[@GixxerFoo]

Glad I could help! You'll love that EV27 in your Evo, that has to be my favorite Evo. It's easy on the valve train and makes excellent power and torque.

[@anchorsaweigh9893]

I would probably recommend bolt in cams. They are clutch for TC and M8. If your going to build your engine then high lift will be fine if that suits your application. What is certain is you need a better cam than stock one. It makes quite a bit of difference. Ride Safe Man!

[@GixxerFoo]

Agreed, stock cams are very lacking and there's so much more to be had going with a bolt in cam!

[@genekelley7579]

🛑🛑 Gix….New Drinking Game Within This Video 🥃 ….. Take a “shot” every time Gix says the word “Cam”😂🥃!!! You would be passed out 😵, on the floor; half way through this video😂👍💯. Great Video Gix. Keep up the Good Work😀👍.

[@GixxerFoo]

😄👍 Thank you, I appreciate it!

[@theodavies8754]

'99 FXDL 88 with 25k miles on. Plan on 509 and s&s plate and pump. The clutch is heavy and I'll be shocked to find stock cams in there. Chrome has gone on the lifter blocks and covers so it's time for a refresh. Thanks for the great comparison videos, helped in choosing the internal bling.

[@GixxerFoo]

Thank you, I appreciate your support over here! If you're gonna tear it down might as well get the cases and everything cleaned up and refreshed too! It will be well worth it!

[@Lymanization]

Thanks for adding pics for references! Great work.

[@GixxerFoo]

No problem! I appreciate the support!

[@danlonick800]

Another quality informative video. Thanks mate, good work 👌

[@GixxerFoo]

Thank you, l appreciate the support!

[@Steve-qn8gn]

Wild advice going on here in this video.

[@mickc4633]

I like, but you have the same. I pulled the trigger. I went with woods TW7h cams, S&S, camp plate, oil pump S&S crank. And you’re gonna like this. The heads are on their way. Branch and O’Keefe. We all know about George branch. I sent the heads to them and they’re getting the works. I did order a set of 10 to one pistons but we’re getting the heads decked that should bump it a little bit. That should be a good package for my heavy ass. Screaming eagle. Oh yeah, by the way, I’m using screaming heads and my screaming limited 110 . I’ve been doing lots of research talking to people talk to woods they recommended that TW 7H cam. I didn’t want to go crazy with the compression. It is a water cold but all the good stuff in it that should make some pretty good numbers as far as torque. Being at the bike has 60,000 miles my runout was over 5° so the hell with it let’s put the good stuff in it. My CVO limited has more stuff than these new ones. I like it it’s comfortable. The bikes are making big power. I’m not trying to race, but I ride two up and heavy For very long distances. If you look at this, give me your thoughts. I have a really good tuner and builder cares about his work. I think it’s gonna be nice. I never had a tune on my bike. Two and 1 to 2 and start buffers with full sack 2 inch baffles. And I’m keeping the stock throttle body. We’ll see how that works out. Should be OK. If you read this, I would love to know your thoughts. We always second-guess ourselves, but I’ve been thinking about this bill for a couple years. I was getting fluctuations in my oil pressure. It was starting to chew up my oil pump. Ran for a while, but. It’s still going to be a 110 with more compression. I’m keeping the stock jugs, but having them gone through touched up, they looked bad it’s not gonna be a race, but I think it’s gonna pull real good. I know you like the 222 woods what’s his name? I forget his first name he told us to go with the other ones. I think either one would work I should be pushing over 10 to one with decking should be a little bit over not too much though. Do a lot of traveling I don’t want nation. Anyway, a lot of people are asking what’s the best for there CVO. Well this is what I did I’ll let you know how it works out. I have high hopes I think it’s going to be pretty good and it’s pretty like you said over 10 1/2 to one is too much a couple with too much compression getting stuck on the George Washington bridge going into New York Manhattan just to look around. Yeah the bike did not like it but this bike has the water cold heads. It should help. Thanks man you’ve been a help. You help me decide. This research on this stuff. and of course my builder had his say so of course he knows more than me. I’m a lazy Google Harley . But that being said, I am a excellent Google doctor. Lol.

[@mickc4633]

I know I talked a lot about everybody’s gonna do something different. Think the bike should run pretty good. Didn’t feel like spending the money and upgrading to 117. Honestly, I think compression and cams give you the best for your money. I wanted the wood cams so I could not go gear drive. That’s a bummer but no big deal really. I have a really good tuner. I think that makes some decent power. Still have questions. I’m using stock throttlebody my tuner said I don’t need a bigger body. Always second-guessing. Not every day you spent $4000 in parts on the motorcycle. Plus tuning.

[@Mark-mm1ke]

When I did my head work, I had them put the thinner head gasket on my 103ci. That upped the compression slightly. I guess every bit helps. I ran around for a month to see the rpm range, though I kinda knew already, and for sure it's down low. All my investigating lead me to the Woods 222 cam for a torque cam. Could not be happier! Another great video. Keep'm coming.

[@GixxerFoo]

Thanks for sharing! Thinner head gasket is great way to get a little compression bump and it does make a difference, especially with a bolt in cam swap!

[@Crashking14]

What do you think would be a good fit for my 103HO?

[@Mark-mm1ke]

@@Crashking14 I looked at a lot of cam specs. The Woods 222 cam stuck out. I was looking for a torque cam and this is as good as any and better than most. Torque comes on fast. My bike is really quick out of the hole.

[@carlbruhn1772]

Another well done presentation!!

[@GixxerFoo]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@arthurleino]

I enjoy watching your video's even if I ride a 83 FXWG. It has a Sifton 440, Sifton valve springs. Solid lifters. My mechanic is surprised how well they have stood up. Thanks again for your video's!

[@GixxerFoo]

That's awesome! I have some videos on the Evo too! Evo's are really hard on lifters since they have a pretty harsh push rod angle, Evo's generally need lifters every 40K with a stock cam.

[@davidholbrook1118]

Killer info bud, keep up the great work 👍

[@GixxerFoo]

Thank you! I appreciate the support!

[@darylthompson5071]

And thanks for all the great vids keep them coming 👍 stay safe

[@GixxerFoo]

Thanks, you too!

[@johngardner6852]

Your videos are a lot of help to me thank you

[@GixxerFoo]

Glad to hear that! I appreciate your support on the channel!

[@yoshit9819]

Another informative video. Thank you

[@GixxerFoo]

I appreciate your support!

[@maurogallegos8694]

Great videos and good advice, thank you…

[@GixxerFoo]

Glad it was helpful! I appreciate your support!

[@gelfyd1]

Great review!! Thanks!!!

[@GixxerFoo]

Thank you, I really appreciate the support!

[@mattmeazy9988]

Good info thanks

[@mikaldene7146]

98 FLSTC Evo. Woods or Andrews Cam. 600 lbs rider, passenger, and cargo.

[@GixxerFoo]

Andrews actually makes the cams for Bob Wood, but they are made to Bob's specs. The Andrews EV27 is really hard to beat to beat on the Evo for what you're doing with your bike.

[@zayzay72]

I like your videos I would love too see you do a Video on Tuners Which is Best this or that. Thanks a lot keep the videos coming

[@GixxerFoo]

Thank you, I appreciate the support! I actually have a video on tuners right here kzbin.info/www/bejne/mnO8i3iqiqx7eac

[@bullast2046]

Hey! a video talking about one of my questions.. I’m paying close attention to my RPMs this summer.. but I find myself exploring the RPMs after seeing the graphs on your vids.. planning to do lots of 103” upgrades this winter.. cams, lifters, pushrods, plate, pump, clutch, centrifugal plate, primary tensioner.. off the top of my head.. adds up quick.. there’s got to be a way to swap valve springs without removing the heads.. air pressure into the chamber works on car engines

[@GixxerFoo]

There are valve spring tools where you can swap the valve springs with the heads on the bike!

[@Kingdlack]

Loving my Zippers RS 468 in my RKS! TQ beast 🦍

[@GixxerFoo]

That RS 468 is a killer cam and it makes great power! They are pretty quiet and easy on the valve train too, put one in my buddy's 2018 107, it sounds awesome and pulls like a freight train!

[@steverollins4690]

Great Vid G! I think people need to decide what is it they are trying to do. For my 2021 FXBBS , I'm more interested in torgue than horsepower for MY application. Remember it's torgue that moves you! Just my two cents!

[@GixxerFoo]

Thank you! You're right people get too caught up on horsepower and forget about the torque. Torque is really what you want to focus on, that's where the fun is and put the horsepower up on top.

[@jondoe8816]

Yeh. Pic a cam in the RPM range you ride. If touring. Use a 255 not a 259 and visa versa. Be on cam in your Cruze mode

[@GixxerFoo]

That's the truth, people get focused on the peak numbers and miss the whole point of where they ride. That's 99% of what happens when a cam is installed and someone is unhappy with it.

[@davidbrown6353]

Live with what ya got from the factory. Spend your money on road trips and adventure. If hp is what your looking for but a Suzuki ect!

[@GixxerFoo]

Sometime you get bored with the power, a cam in a Harley makes a huge difference.

[@kellendavis8638]

9:15 look at how much more surface area around the combustion chamber the s&s head on the right has. Ooh lala. Know what my next upgrade won't be done without.

[@GixxerFoo]

Head porting goes a long ways and make some big gains with a good cam and some compression!

[@jrayh.6673]

585 cams in my 100in S&s build. No interference 75-80 degree weather but at 44-50 degrees you can a light tap on the rocker box covers until it warms up. Currently relieving the webbing but between metal expansion the angle angle of the covers (they want to slide right when tightening) you learn I guess

[@GixxerFoo]

585's in a 100 incher that's a pretty solid build right there!

[@MAC-co4cr]

Good info brother

[@GixxerFoo]

Thank you, I appreciate it!

[@Chainsaw2373]

Great video!

[@GixxerFoo]

Thank you, I appreciate the support!

[@semperfipar1299]

I'm listening to all of the great engine knowledge and you covered it all in the valve train. How about the stock cam chain turning those high lift cams? I'm also thinking of that video you made on bolt-in aftermarket engines that come built with all that in it.

[@GixxerFoo]

No issues down stairs on the stock cam chains, I do prefer adding a billet cam plate and high volume oil pump moving into the high lift cams when you get heavier valve springs though. Honestly a good crate motor is very competitive in price depending how far you take the motor.

[@Backyardmech1]

A lot of this wisdom comes to the same ideas with 4 wheeler engines. You can put “mild” cams into stock motors and get good gains, but when you start tinkering with high lift cams, you gotta start doing some math, and basically rethink your motor build. Seen too many friends thinking it’s just a minor upgrade, but soon have valves kissing pistons.

[@darylthompson5071]

Well big guy .ride between 2500 rpm and 3500 .big toss up between tw 222 or there tw triple nickel .the ride is a 2013 ultra classic limited. Live in BC Canada lots of mountains sure could use a little input

[@GixxerFoo]

Being a touring bike you'd probably like the 222 better, it's higher torque on the bottom. When it comes to the 555 it's usually better suited for a lighter bike like the Dyna.

[@kennethwise7108]

EV-27 is the best one in my opinion. Easy on the valve train and offers the best overall performance

[@GixxerFoo]

That's my favorite bolt in Evo cam, it's really hard to beat and makes great power on those motors!

[@kennethwise7108]

@@GixxerFoo yeah that's true. I even have it in my Stroker motor and it's the perfect combination

[@johngill8980]

@@kennethwise7108 I'll stick with Jim's Max Cell 821E for the M8

[@kennethwise7108]

@@johngill8980 I guess that's a good cam for a Milwaukee 8 I have never even ridden one before

[@shrinertattoo]

How do you know?? I’d be interested in hearing the story. Thank you for the information! I’m really enjoying the content, keep up the good work. Cheers!🥃

[@GixxerFoo]

Thanks for watching! Years ago I put a bolt in cam in one of my old bikes, didn't check clearance, didn't rotate the engine over and just made assumptions with it being bolt in. Well it made contact with the cases and I ended up with a Ebay engine and some salvage parts.

[@adenneville3492]

Hi there love the videos mate you have lots of knowledge 👍. I have a 2007 Softail Standard fxst, I have Vance and hines air cleaner and Vance and Hines 2 into 1 big Radious pipe on it with a FP3 tuner. Have been doing alot of research into finding the right cam for it.i ride 2 up most of the time and would like abit more punch out of it. Will be keeping stock heads on it so stock compression of 9.2.1 . Would love some recomendations from you , Cheers from New Zealand 👍

[@GixxerFoo]

It's really hard to beat a Wood TW-222 in the Twin Cam 96 and 103, those cams have some awesome all around power. Here's a video that has some more cam option on the 96 and what the cams will do for those motors kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zn_Go59ohLx2rc0

[@adenneville3492]

@@GixxerFoo cheers for that. Am tossing up between the woods 222 and the 555. Keep up the good work is great that you share all this knowledge you have. 👍

[@MrHavoc5252]

I forgot to mention, I have a stock 114 motor and I want to wake it up but I’m mostly going for that chop.

[@tomwebster6747]

@GixxerFoo, I ride a 2016 CVO Street Glide. I’ve added the V&H Power Duals/Monster Rounds and had it decatted with a Pro tune. In terms of next steps, the 117 bolt on kit seems unnecessary. I normally ride 1-up. I’m more thinking a cam upgrade for more torque. What total cam package do you recommend for either the bolt in only option or going all the way with a compression upgrade? Thanks in advance. Love your channel. Great content. I’m a sub!

[@danwhyte3524]

Yes would just stick with the Bolt in they seem to be supplying enough power I'd probably do the whole chest basket there while I was in there lifters included. The Bolt in cam seem to supply more than enough power!! It's difficult to know when to stop buying the parts..... thanks

[@GixxerFoo]

That's my thought personally, realistically a bolt cam with a built solid cam chest is the way to go just riding on the street. Excellent power and you're not compromising reliability.

[@rq38hq55]

Ok which cam should I use on my bike ? 2005 HD Fat Boy screemin Eagle 103 custom built engine from Harlley . It has DK custom air filter and Cobra slip on exhaust. It has the 88 cam in it that could grenade the motor per one of your videos so i think I should change it eventually. I'm looking for low low end torque mid range power. Retired Motor Cop out of a Major City in Texas survived 20 years on motors. Love your Channell .Thanks for your time.

[@johndonkor243]

There's still alot of ambiguity when it comes to what is, or isn't, a high-lift cam. I've been told that a cam with a lift higher than .585 is considered high lift, albeit because of the limited capacity of the stock springs. Lift certainly isn't everything though. In my own personal experience cam timing and compression is the most important consideration, especially if you are considering building on an existing cam. I think if you ride two-up most of the time, and want low end torque, stick to a cam with an early intake valve closing (i.e. something that closes in the 30-35 degree range). This is where riding style comes in. If you don't ride two up, and like to be in the high rpms, then something that closes after 40 degrees (i.e. hot rod) is more preferable. The latter is also more tolerant of more compression...Cam choice is such a matrix. You really need to be honest about where you ride, and think about what you might want to do in the future re upgrades.

[@GixxerFoo]

Interesting you mentioned that, Wood cams really seem to take everything into account. Bob Wood has designed some very impressive bolt in cams that work with stock valve springs. The lifts are within the limits of the stock valve springs but they produce incredible power.

[@johndonkor243]

@@GixxerFoo what are the actual limits of the stock springs? What's the rule of thumb?

[@leiflindqvist9095]

Thanks for the very informative and good videos! I have looked and interpreted, examined and drawn my own conclusions .... but ... anyway. Is there anyone with experience who can provide options for my goal when it comes to camshaft. I drive a Road king 2008, 96 ci twin cam with intake and exhaust opened. I am looking for driveability, low / mid power and am quite uninterested in max hp at maximum rpm. Which camshafts to consider, there are so many options! Value for money is of course one factor as well.

[@grfwarblehjhj1259]

Comment for algorithm. Good video dude.

[@GixxerFoo]

Awesome, thank you!

[@BigTee3099]

I have a 2012 Roadglide with the 103. I’m currently running a V&H 2 into 1 proPipe, SE heavy breather with a SE street tune. I’m looking to upgrade to Thunder max ECM, woods TW-222 cams. What is everything i need for the TW-222? Great video! Thanks!

[@user-so2vs2bh2f]

If you're going to invest in cams, either get S&S or Woods. Don't mess around with the Screamin Eagle cams. I'm not knocking Screamin Eagle, they have some decent quality products, but their cams pale in comparison to some of the other aftermarket companies. Do not get too caught up in the numbers game either. A Harley is about the look, sound, the joy of cruising. If you're goal is super high top end hp you're kind of looking at the wrong bikes.

[@williamolson3704]

Howdy! I like your channel. Very informative. I have an '09 FLHX, stock engine, with around 55, 000 miles. I believe I have a collapsed lifter that I'm going to dive into myself. This will be a great opportunity to check my cams, cam chain tensioners etc. I've never been a gearhead, but could appreciate performance, if it didn't shorten the life of my engine. Some say to just change the problem lifter, or do I change them all? What is a good choice of lifter? As long as I'm in there, is there any "no brainer" upgrades you'd recommend? Different cams? Oil pump? Cam plate? My main concern is to simply repair the problem, but I don't want to waste an opportunity to upgrade as long as I'm in there. Thank you.

[@GixxerFoo]

You could go all out while your in there with a cam upgrade, cam plate and oil pump but I would for sure get a new of lifters in there. Replace all 4 for sure, check for any wear on you're cam for sure. A mild bolt in cam wouldn't hurt anything with a new set of lifters, Jims and S&S make some great lifters!

[@dennishardy4402]

Hi thanks for sharing your knowledge. I recently purchased a 107 m8 with the standard hd 128 stage 4 kit already fitted by the dealer.. I find I have to change down a couple of gears to get real forward motion happening when overtaking etc. Can you recommend a cam which moves the torque lower down in the rev range. Not worried about top horsepower. Thanks Dennis

[@GixxerFoo]

I'm really surprised with that 128 it doesn't have the torque to pull with a roll on, I like the Wood cams myself but the Red Shift 468 is a pretty choice for torque. Here's a video on some cams for the M8 that will work with your 128 kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2jbo6pjYtmMaMU

[@dont95blink86]

Best cam for my super glide? Bolt in 2013 96ci low mid torque riding

[@brucer261]

also would that benefit from a woods 555 cam. I like low to mid range. Mostly want a stunt\street bike. I am not much into touring

[@danielcasas7880]

Awesome info, keep up the good work. I guess I will ask as well. What u recommend on a bolt in cam. 2008 fatbob 96? I've got intake, exhaust and powervision already. I usually range about 3000, seldomly ever get near 5. Usually cruise at 70 - 80 MPH. I don't plan on going any further than cams. I'm at about 25000 on the odometer. Runs very good, no problems, but I know there's a little more. I'm looking for low to mids. Thank you sir, for all your very good informative vids.

[@rmc2340]

Woods 222 in 2008 Road King with 96 motor power vision tuner. Did lifters and push rods all from Fuel Moto with their tune. Great highway power love it.

[@GixxerFoo]

That is awesome to hear! You've got one hell of a excellent setup there!

[@GixxerFoo]

To me it's really hard to beat a Wood 555 or 222, both are great cams for what you're looking to do. Here's a video with some details on other cams for your 96 kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zn_Go59ohLx2rc0.

[@jondoe8816]

just cot some 259e cams with a 110 kit ,, been told there a toque cam . but a friend lost an engine with these cams in due to lifter failer and he rides hard so was under the impression they were ahigh RPM cam .

[@carlosmendizabal1059]

I’m installing the s&s 98” big bore on a 2000 dyna. Also got the s&s .585 cam chest kit and have the .585 valve springs. I don’t plan on having these heads ported. Is that all there is to it….. remove old springs, clean up the heads of road grime and put it all back together?

[@jayfeatherstone5959]

The cam's lift is really not the determining factor to whether compression should need to be increased. That is more determined by duration,overlap,&,the cam's timing events. The lift really has very little effect as far as compression is concerned.

[@GixxerFoo]

True, but generally the high lift cams are designed with higher compression in mind that exceeds the limits of straight bolt in cams.

[@jayfeatherstone5959]

@@GixxerFoo alot of ppl make the mistake of guaging a cam's power potential,manners,&,aggressiveness by lift,when in fact,lift actually tells you very little about a cam. Perfect example,compare the Wood 555 to the S&S 583. If a person buys the cams with the higher lift thinking they will make more power,they will be sadly disappointed.If they in turn,increase compression, again,based on lift,they will end up with an unusable detonating motor from excessive cylinder psi. The S&S with .583" of lift,only has 202* of intake duration & closes the intake valve very early,which builds high cylinder psi. It's a low range torque cam. The Wood cams,with almost .030" less lift,but 40* more duration & a much later intake valve closing,will produce much more power with much less lift. A cam's lift actually tells you very little about a cam,as far as power potential, manners,compression needs,etc.

[@terrylawler6039]

I currently have my 05 fatboy cvo in the shop now upgrading the cam chest and decided to go with Feuling 543 cams , lifters, vs screaming eagle 255, also have the power vision tuner, what if any difference do you think I’ll notice?

[@leonardstanford1877]

If your not going to use bigger valves stick to bolt in cams if you go with high lift cams there's a lot more to it then just changing springs you can run into top spring collar to valve guide seal clearance factory used long guide sometimes you can cut the top of guide down sometimes you have to machine the bottom of the top collar to make clearance & then kinda waste if your not gonna use bigger valves ! That's all the 2 cents I'm willing to tell you today !

[@GixxerFoo]

That's a excellent point, getting into high lift cams can really open up a can of worms depending on how big you want to go!

[@getoffmygrass6974]

Wud up Foo! I love talking about this 💩. Here’s my way to idiot proof a build. Cams - based on compression ratios Compression - based on stoke/cylinders/heads It all comes together with timing.

[@GixxerFoo]

That's exactly the formula that needs to be followed! You do that and you'll have a excellent performing build that is reliable!

[@thomasturtle138]

So I started watching miscellaneous videos on your channel a few days ago and appreciate all the info. I just got an 07 dyna wide glide with 25k miles for a steal off fb marketplace.( my first Harley) Have been riding an 1800 vtx for the last couple years. My bro has has done up to stage 4 or 5 on his 02 road king (in a shop not done himself) and when I told him I got the Harley his response was “you gonna do some motor work or what” 😂 after watching your videos I think I could handle the cam job myself and not pay a shop… so my question to you is which ones would you recommend for an 07 wide glide in north Florida? Bike already has a big breather and Vance and Hines short shots with the baffles still in them and a Vance and Hines fuel pack so I should be able to tune myself as well. I ride mostly around town. Occasionally I’ll take a long stroll with the ol lady but I’m generally puttin around town or riding out in the country. Just looking for the best performance for the money from cams without having to do much els. I would do the bearings as well while I’m in there but don’t think I’m interested in oil pump/ heads / pistons /etc. at least not yet… Cheers

[@smallfry0764]

Woods 222 okay for a 103 breakout, driven mainly from 2,000-4,500 rpm? Have intake, Vance and Hines pipes, just feels a little doggy down low and doesn’t start pulling until 3,000+ it seems. I’m getting tore up by my buddies 96cc Dyna lol.

[@chrisbarbour9533]

I have a 2005 Softail going to put cams cam plates debating between triple 5 wood cams or the 475 s&s cam what would be the best maybe do some head work down the road and a Big bore kit thanks

[@GixxerFoo]

It's really hard to beat to beat Wood in terms of all around power with the future upgrades you have in mind.

[@xlr8r3VA]

Great video, as always! So, who do you really know? That sounds like a story we all want to hear. May be a good teaching point for us on what not to do. Might make a great video.

[@GixxerFoo]

Lol well years ago I didn't check cam clearance on a bolt in and just assumed it would fit without any issues. Didn't check clearance, didn't rotate the motor over just fired it up and ended up with a Ebay engine and some salvageable parts.

[@xlr8r3VA]

@@GixxerFoo ouch! Sorry to hear that. I’m rebuilding a 355 small block Chevy for a Camaro and hope I don’t wind up doing the same thing. Check and recheck I guess. Thanks for sharing!

[@happyg62]

I have 2017 ultra limited 107 which one should i go for wood 22XE or Star racing 30-30 ? Just need advise

[@Crashking14]

I have the 103HO..I heard it has a larger cam than stock...but I'm thinking of going to an even bigger set...what would u recommend?

[@charleshoward9996]

I have a 2021 Street Glide CVO. Would a S&S 475C be a good choice?

[@kennethhacker1341]

Hey bud ,is it common to have carbon build up in these Harley Davidson engines? When my bike is warmed up seems like it's detonates..thank you for the education.. sending good vibes from NJ

[@gcfxdlow]

Hello Gixxer Foo… 2015 dyna lowrider 103. Putting a “Man O War” comp in next week… Mostly dr appointments and joy rides in light hills and city. Ive been drooling over the Wood TW222, Feuling High Flow Camplate paired with Feuling Race series Oil Pump. Should I add in the Feuling HP Lifters as well? Also , is this cam an “easy start cam”? What about Rocker lockers? Thanks. 🙏

[@dannyburgess2781]

6.6 woods

[@bullast2046]

Is there hydraulic flat tappet lifters for HD? Or are they all rollers?

[@kevycargo206]

I have a 2014 switchback (dyna 103) will a bolt on cam and a tuner help me achieve that overlap / lope on idle?

[@MrHavoc5252]

I have the 2022 Harley Road Glide, I’m not a fast rider, I won’t be doing anything too extreme; I just want that heavy chop! I’m going to upgrade my breather, throw on a Thunder header exhaust, a tune and cam. I’m leaning toward the S&S cams but I’m hearing the 575 cam and up requires me to upgrade to a chain driven system instead of the belt. For that extreme chop, which cam should I go with? The 540, 565, 575 or 585? Since I’m going with the stage 2, I might as well put a real cam in the bike because the Harley cam is trash.

[@hotrotts6467]

Hey Gixx; Long time Fan. I ride a 2003 100th Anniversary Heritage Springer. I want to upgrade the stage 1 to the mini S&S air filter, Straight fish-tip pipes and a tune. I also want to upgrade the Cam Plate to either the gears or hydraulic tensioner. My mechanic feels the gears could be risky depending on the run-out, so I'm Leaning towards the S&S Hydraulic cam plate and Oil pump. Now I'm stuck on the Cams. I live in NY where you can't scratch your head without elbowing someone, so my sweet spot to ride is in the cruising range(I'll take my high speed on 4 wheels, thank you very much). So I'm looking at bolt ins; my mechanic suggests the Andrews TW37; I was think about sticking with S&S and going with the 509. Your thoughts?

[@carolinarider5237]

What is considered to high of a high lift cam for a basically for a stage 2

[@lordion33]

I ride a softail slim s 110. Bar hopper, highway pulls. Looking for a bolt in… friends have been saying Zippers is the way to go. Any opinion?

[@KevinRoadrageGarage]

I have a 2000 Ultra classic TC 88 with 20,000 miles. Nothing but true dual exhaust and air filter done to it. I like lighting up the tire on take offs and pulling hard to 80mph. What cam would you suggest? I will be punching it out to a 98 eventually. Hopefully gear drive also

[@GixxerFoo]

The TW6 is a excellent bolt in cam if you're keeping the heads stock with stock compression. If you're going with some head work you might look at a TW408.

[@thomashall6937]

I have a 255 SE cam in my 110 cvo. Would there be any gain with a SE585 cam. Just thinking. Great stuff as always

[@tommyweese5697]

I’m just gonna throw out there that anything made by screaming eagle can be done better by s&s or other aftermarket manufacturers. But it all depends on what you want the build to be. 255s are fine for some that doesn’t want MORE.

[@GixxerFoo]

The 585 SE cam would be more than the 555, but honestly you'd really appreciate a good aftermarket cam even more. It's going to cost you about the same, honestly probably cheaper and you'll get way more bang for your buck.

[@tommyweese5697]

@@GixxerFoo thanks to gixxers five step program I have become a competent h-d performance mechanic and you can too just send him tree fiddy and a beer! Dude this 110 kit with the woods cams rips on my dyna now. Hoping to run into you at one of the upcoming Oklahoma events soon

[@blkfld7850]

What would you recommend for a twin cam 103 with a stage 1 already done? Looking for more mid range punch. More acceleration while 2up on the Hwy etc.

[@GixxerFoo]

It's really hard to beat a bolt in cam swap, it will transform you bike! The Wood TW-555 is a great cam for dynas, but the TW-222 is the way to go for touring bikes. They make excellent power all around the chart and really outperform other cams just about anywhere in the power band.

[@nealmoyer7216]

I have a m8 107 sportglide with stage 1 , 2 into 1 bassani exhaust , S.E. high flow intake and S.E. pro tuner. I want to put a low torque bolt in cam in with a power vision dyno tune. I can't decide which cam as I like to crank it on with old buddies ( we're all in our 70's but still race each other) I also do a lot of touring (16000 klms) last summer. About 10000 miles Witch cam????

[@gregfortmayer4535]

I have a 17 Breakout. Stage 1- gonna change lifters, push rods and cams. keeping stock pistons but getting head ported. i want woods cam and i ride from 3 to 6k rpm. what is your suggestions on woods cam for this set up.

[@papothetech]

I see you have Amsoil sticker around. Do you recommend that oil on Harleys vs other oils?

[@GixxerFoo]

I've had really good luck with Amsoil in my Harleys, it quieted the valve train down quite a bit. Just a personal feeling but I felt like the ran a lot cooler with Amsoil, I didn't check before and after temperatures though. I ended up running Amsoil in everything after my experience with the motorcycles.

[@steveholloway8576]

08 ultra , I'm thinking Woods 222 but don't like the thought of adjustable push rods ,,,, are they dependable once adjusted?

[@GixxerFoo]

Generally they are very reliable with the lock nut, one could argue they aren't as strong as the solid push rods which they won't be. But with a bolt in cam swap they do very well, I used to check the lock net every couple thousand miles or so but haven't had one back off yet.

[@BrandonD95]

Iv got a 2014 road king 103 i short shift but do like to rip light too light im a solo rider thinking about the woods tw222 is there a better option

[@GixxerFoo]

Honestly that 222 is just hard to beat, it makes power all over the chart from the low end to the top. Here's a video on some cam options for the 103 where I compared several different brands with the Wood kzbin.info/www/bejne/n6nIh2Sth9-mpbs

[@gregranlett8408]

Thanks, Gixxer! You mention upgrading hyd. lifters in this video, and I personally don't trust S.E. lifters because they have a documented history of roller/needle-bearing failure. Jims USA manufactures excellent hyd. lifters as does S&S. I prefer Jims USA as I know for sure that they are made in the U.S.A. Do you know where S&S lifters are made?, I don't. Thanks again, Greg in Boise.

[@GixxerFoo]

I'm not sure where the S&S lifters are made but S&S and Jims are pick. I like the Jims since they have worked really hard to perfect the contact points with the cases for anti rotation.

[@gregranlett8408]

BTW, I chose a "bolt-in" Red Shift 468C cam for my 128 M8 and it pulls like a tractor! Greg

[@falfab68]

I mean it all just "bolts in" Just depends on how many bolts you want to take out first 👍

[@GixxerFoo]

Lol very true, supposedly without any other modifications.

[@lawtondevil]

hello I got a 2022 road king specail 114 I'm looking at cams I don't want like wood where there harder on the drivetrain. idk I was thinking a Andrews 467 or the redshift 468 I want it reliable for touring and around town. if you have any thoughts I like to hear them thanks I'm going to change out the lifters for sure. I ride from 2000 to 3500 to 4500 rpm never really take it over that I really don't like hammering on it I want this bike to last me thank u

[@brucer261]

I am just about to pull the trigger on a 93 883 sportster that has had a 1200 kit installed. It also has had carbon fiber clutch installed. The guy is asking 4000 CAD. Am I looking at trouble or does that sound reasonable. Just as a side note : I can do all my own work

[@firemangsxr]

Hopefully I'm not to late writing on this post, I have a 2014 sgs ho I'm putting on k&n high flow intake, vance hines big radius 2-2. Amd running a fp3. I mostly run low - high mid range rpm. I'm looking for just a bolt on as I don't plan on going any further. I love the sound of a good cam thump while at idle. What cam would you recommend?

[@michaelmorgan5714]

I really enjoy your channel. My stepson likes to ride, and he has very little interest in understanding the refined information needed to make changes. My listening to you has helped me to inform him about the future problems he could be having installed in his bike. But his mother and I don't have twin-cams or M-8's. Just V-rods, Sportster, and a Pan Head. Does your father by any chance have his own channel?

[@GixxerFoo]

There can be a lot of issues if you don't do it right and get too crazy adding parts. Dad doesn't have his own channel but I've got a few Vrod and Sportster videos on the channel. There's quite a bit you can do with the Sportsters. I haven't got into the Pan Heads much, those but I do have a Shovel video.

[@dameonharmon4352]

08 superglide with Vance and Hines sideshots and a power commander v. Otherwise none stock. Was thinking a and a 583 or wood 555. What do you think gixxerfoo?

[@GixxerFoo]

The 555 is an awesome cam for the Dyna, that would be my pick!

[@naumanmoladina9103]

Hi, I needed your advice on throttle body & manifold. We are doing 110 big bore kit with new cams, ported heads on 07 Heritage classic. Do you think it would benefit to install performance throttle body and manifold? If yes, which one would you recommend. Thanks

[@GixxerFoo]

I am really on the fence about larger throttle bodies personally, they are very expensive and in most cases you don't get a lot of return on investment. Unless you're going with a monster displacement of 120 inch or larger I'm not a huge fan of them. The best gains I've seen is having the factory unit ported when you're under 120 inch. You may or may not get some gains with a larger aftermarket unit but I would recommend HPI throttle bodies.

[@dannyburgess2781]

6.6. Wood cam. What is best. Cam plsye and. Best. Oil pump.

[@louisortiz6022]

I got a 2016 streetglide ho heavy breather vance and hines power duels and fp3 tuner what would you recommend i was thinking of the s& s 110 power package or would i be better with just a cam?bike has 29000 miles

[@GixxerFoo]

It's hard to beat a cam in a late model 103, you get some awesome power and you don't have all the heat associate with the 110 kits. But if you've got the cash and add a good oil cooler the 110 kit will give you quite the torque boost over the 103!

[@jamesstafford62]

I already know the answer but what are your thoughts about using the stock push rods with a stage 2 power cam I’m going to be taking the tank off anyway for some other mods. I’m not a big fan of adjustable push rods know too many people who had them back off! Will also be changing the lifters and lifter cuffs.

[@GixxerFoo]

You gotta get into the top end but l am with you there on the adjustables backing off. Personally l like to take the time to get into the rocker box and if need be buy solid push rods in the length you need. Solids are stronger and l know a lot of people will argue that the lock nut backing off doesn't happen. It does, l've seen it myself too and it is a mess when it happens.

[@tommyweese5697]

Had mine back off. Not freaking fun. When I rebuilt the motor I put stock pushrods back in it

[@Lymanization]

Best cam for my 06 twin88 low rider? A lot of city riding unfortunately! Thanks!

[@petemathieson333]

Feuling Reaper 525’s, lots of low end grunt

[@GixxerFoo]

You've got the hybrid year of the Dyna with the hydraulic tensioner and basically TC 96 on a 88. I like the Feuling Reaper 525 and then there's the Wood TW-6 for the 88. Both are very solid torque cams that still have really good mid range.

[@waynebordner8341]

I have an 11 ultra limited and am looking at the S and S 585 cam chest kit, I ride in the mid 2000's and on long trips where we are 2 up heavy, I'm very interested in your opinion. Thank you

[@GixxerFoo]

The 585 makes some torque down low but it to me it comes on a little later. With a touring bike you might check out the Wood TW-222, that's a excellent torque cam for a touring bike. But if you're set on S&S I would go with either the 585 or the 570.

[@waynebordner8341]

Thank you