What Happens When You Switch Primers? - Don't make this mistake!

[@BoltActionReloading]

If you want to see more videos on how primers affect the performance of you reloads check out this playlist: kzbin.info/aero/PLXl7rMHW73NOtgyQHXIA-diiSYoEEDjiE

[@jimbrock8310]

I have swiped pistol and rifle primers for 40 years mag or not. I have never had an issue as long as I don't load to max! The hand books they have out today are all lawyered up. my old books are dead on for max performance! The only primers I have ever blown out was 357 mag and 22-250 Rem. That was only because I was loading at max. Max load is not your most accurate anyway. Start a couple grains below and work up or down until you find what your gun likes! 2-3 hundred fps is not going to make much difference in shocking power! Accuracy and shot placement are what it is all about! There have probably been more game animals harvested with a 22 long rifle or a 30-30 than any other rifles! They will all do the job if you hit your target! One shot one kill!

[@torreyintahoe]

I have thousands of large pistol primers and don't use them as I only load 9mm and 38 super in pistol, so I was wondering about using them for rifle. Most of the guys on the forums say not to do it though.

[@jmfa57]

@@torreyintahoe I highly recommend that you NOT do that. I inadvertently mixed large pistol primers into my 7x57 reloads, which were thankfully rather mild. I loaded up 20 or 30 before discovering my mistake. I chose to take them to the range anyway. I had a couple where the primer was punctured. Thank goodness I didn't get any blowback into my face. The primer cups are nearly always thin on pistol primers, a bit thicker on magnum pistol primers, and thicker yet for rifle primers. So long as your pistol has a strong enough firing pin spring to shoot your rifle primers, the gun will go BANG, but I think it's really risky using any pistol primer in a rifle cartridge. Good luck and be safe!

[@jimwhite9483]

Hope you're proud of yourself. I guess getting the sins of your past off your chest gives you comfort in your last days. You're possibly one of the reasons we have a shortage in these days. Just how many primers have you swiped over your 40+ years of pocketing them?

[@ericsalazar2337]

I think it was a typo and he meant swapped. I think he’s referring to substituting pistol primers for rifle 🤷🏻‍♂️…. Maybe you’re trolling bc that was funny about confessing sins 😂

[@jimbrock8310]

@ Yes he was trolling me! Obviously I do not always proof read.

[@Hybris51129]

For the first time in years I'm seriously looking into getting back into reloading once I get my .50 Beowulf and .458 Socom uppers. Channels like this are a utter godsend even if you aren't covering the calibers I expect to be reloading for.

[@450moto9]

I load for 450bushmaster 458 socom and 50 beowulf using cast and jacketed bullets if you have any questions once you get going. Once I got into big bore ar’s I have never looked back

[@johnnash5118]

Randy Shelby, The Real Gunsmith said some LRPs can be used with some magnums because they were used together before MRPs were created. I’m going to test Rem. LRPs with my 7mm SAUM.

[@WhateverYouWin]

I’ve seen a lot of crazy ideas as of late. This shortage of components doesn’t change the science of reloading. Thank you for putting out a video grounding people’s practice in safety!

[@JacksonMalcolm]

combine a shortage of components, new reloaders and idiots making click bait videos... i think we'll see a wave of catastrophic failure videos.

[@WhateverYouWin]

I hope not, but you’re probably right. Won’t be me, I haven’t been shooting much because I have less than 3,000 primers total. Trying to find at least a couple of bricks somewhere.

[@JacksonMalcolm]

@@WhateverYouWin The communists have been holding out on us.. I found a few in California. my brother was nice enough to snag them for me. headed that way next week!

[@tyler6147]

The old adage from Johnny's Reloading Bench applies... "Don't blow your face off dude!" Good reminder to keep safe practices in the forefront. Even if you have TONS of experience NO ONE is immune from an accident.

[@hondarsw]

For those of us that have made re loading mistakes - hats off to still having all your fingers and no real damage. I always use 3 sources for loads and just tore down 400 ( 1st mistake ) rounds of 10mm due to over pressure. Worked up to this load, but new can of powder was all it took. Lesson learned and no body and no firearm, hurt in the process. Still learning and guess that's what makes it interesting. Be safe out there.

[@ivanrodriguez8966]

I use .50 bmg primers on everything. I also like to top off the case with black powder before crushing a round into the case. Maybe I should share those with people who ask me for ammo because I "reload" and it's "really cheap".

[@cristianespinal9917]

Hahaha, savage

[@Sageofthe16]

loading a 9mm round into a 350 legend are we?

[@rmbettac]

Good video- vital information that people need to understand. That 9 1/2 and new powder lot load was hauling ass! Too, some people try to max out velocity over book big time and something like this could ruin their day.

[@richardgainey8790]

Quite a bit of research has been done lately on the effect of humidity with regard to powder burn rates. Possibly the new lot of RL26 had less H2O content and therefore more volume per 49 grains with a faster burn. Double whammy, especially when nearing max case capacity. Thanks for the great content!

[@johnkaraphillis754]

Really enjoyed the video. Very interesting. You hear so many stories about which primers are the best and worst along with the affects. Also, which brass is the best and most consistent. I’m thankful I always have ample components stored, but am still careful. Thanks and look forward to the next video.

[@G5Hohn]

It's amazing how much case capacity and bullet selection can matter along with powder lots. I hit pressure with RL26 and SRP Peterson brass rather easily around 46gr with 140ELDs. Nearly 2900fps with a 140 is itself a pressure sign in 6.5. Pretty sure all three kegs I have are same lot (*flex*), but I haven't confirmed. Peterson seems to be pretty heavy brass (more like Lapua) and a bit less case capacity as a result. Not sure if their LRP brass is the same. I use 450s with SRP brass.

[@vomitingwithungodlyaccurac3218]

This video was mostly common sense (if you’re experienced) but I still appreciate reminders. Keep up the good work!

[@BoltActionReloading]

I appreciate that!

[@savagereloader6699]

Actually looking forward to more LR primer vids as I trial some ADG brass against Lapua and expand my RL-26 loads.

[@sjohnson1776]

Very good advice here. I've come to accept, that for me, 'good enough is going to have to do'. With limited availability of components I can load up to 'good enough' rather than fine tuning to someting better. I have a good supply of components on hand and I'm not going to use them up chasing a super sweet spot. Sometimes, 1/2 MOA or 3/4 MOA or even MOA is going to have to do. To keep shooting at some good volume, I just a bought a Christensen Arms .22LR and I have a good supply of ammo for it. It's just going to have to do.

[@archangel20031]

Rifle primers tend to be made out of thicker material because rifles tend to fire at higher pressures. I actually have a brick of Sellier and Bellot small universal primers where it's printed on the box that they can be used for pistol or rifle.

[@jaycee30865]

Did you have a video using large pistol primers in rifle cartridges that you took down? Trying to find it as I had watched it before; I was sure it had to be you. Thanks sir.

[@BoltActionReloading]

I am guessing this video? - kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZuuk2x7mt5pg8U I have one on small primers as well.

[@orozcocris93]

Do a video of small rifle in a pistol load!!! I would love to see it as I have already loaded some but have not tested haha. I will have to try that program though. It might be able to tell me if 3.8 of clays running a small primer behind it (cci number 41 I think) for 9mm

[@savagereloader6699]

Always wondered how you ran so much more RL-26 without pressure than I could. I guess it was the lot to lot difference. I hope those Remington 9 1/2M work out better for you than they have for myself. The accuracy is there but I have had lousy SD's with them and notice an immediate improvement with other primers over them which sucks cause they were half price and I bought 2000 of them. To the brush guns they go!

[@BoltActionReloading]

Hey BA, Have you found a primer that worked well with RL-26? (low SD) I have been planning on a test, but would love to know what worked best for you so I make sure to include it.

[@savagereloader6699]

@@BoltActionReloading unfortunately I do not. Wish I could help but I have somewhat limited experience in LR primed cases in 6.5 CM. The Fed 215M gave me some decent consistency but the 210M was noticeably more consistent for me in my limited testing.

[@Alberta_MTN_Bear]

I subscribed and haven’t seen a single video of yours ever. Just the name gave me the subscription inclination

[@flugit]

I was really hoping this was gonna be a can you use a shotgun primer for rifles sorta thing

[@gerry6.8]

Those kind of speeds seem quite excessive to begin with so I would imagine they were on the edge to begin with. I predict that RL 26 data is going to be reduced over time because of this very issue you ran into. I don't use many Alliant powders these days because they are very inconsistent from lot to lot and I got tired of dealing with it. Yes I ran into the same issue you did in the past and learned the hard way lol. Good advice on primers too since there can be big differences between them.

[@savagereloader6699]

I couldn't imagine not having a chronograph and trying to figure things out. Some reloaders don't understand the lot to lot variations and without a chronograph or long distance ranges to confirm the issue.

[@Lucysdad66]

I loaded the same load in LC brass and WCC and all the LC brass had black rings around the primer and the WCC all looked good.

[@bobkmac]

Thank you for such an honest and helpful video. Stay safe!!

[@knighthawk6633]

Where did you buy the Dillion tool head rack? That’s pretty slick.

[@BoltActionReloading]

It is from inline fabrication.

[@rdsii64]

I have been experimenting with the Gordons reloading tool. The best way to explain it is to call it a modern open source alternative to quickload. There are a lot of missing powders but its a work in progress and free.

[@BoltActionReloading]

I know of it, I just need to do some work with it. I am excited to see what it can become.

[@travissmith2211]

I work with a guy that has a personal bar at his house. He told me that he doesn't break the seal on a new bottle until he has it's replacement. After primers come back in stock I might have to adapt that practice for reloading.

[@savagereloader6699]

You may never shoot then in these crazy times. I was lucky enough to unintentionally stock up... damn sales

[@travissmith2211]

@@savagereloader6699 that's why I stated after this situation. As long as no insane laws are actually passed, the market will stabilize and we'll see components again. Last year and into now has just been a perfect storm to make it difficult for the shooting community.

[@savagereloader6699]

@@travissmith2211 can only hope that happens soon

[@nickspistolsfl9736]

You are all wonderful in your story and I agree with you. BUT! now I have to use whatever primers I can get. There are simply no primers for sale. And I use pistol magnum primers for regular rounds. I use rifle primers for pistol cartridges. I was forced to do it. No injuries so far

[@bullgravy6906]

i just load what the Nosler book from Bass Pro says, But i also just about never have shots beyond 100yds. In fact my 3 deer his past season were floating around 60 yds. So i just reload for fun and to make sure i got a few extra rounds laying about.

[@Quadrenaro]

Lights at the end of the tunnel. I picked up a brick of small rifle last night. They had more than 100k primers on that shelf.

[@rdsii64]

If you were able to find primers in this mess, you 'da man!

[@randyemenhiser2573]

Finding them is easy (Gunbroker.com). Paying for them is another thing altogether.

[@BoltActionReloading]

I have had the best luck local. Certainly can't have pick of anything, but I did find some more CCI-250s!

[@rdsii64]

@@BoltActionReloading I haven't had any luck yet. Even though it will require a lot less marksmanship practice, I think have enough components to ride this out. Since my 155 grain 308 load and my 75 grain 223 load use the same powder, I'll be doing a lot more practice with my 223(chuckle) It might even get rebarreled first.

[@mattfleming86]

This is more relevant than ever! Thanks for the video.

[@BoltActionReloading]

Glad it was helpful!

[@mattfleming86]

@@BoltActionReloadingIt was stuff I'm personally aware of.. but I was browsing accurateshooter this morning for the first time in a while, and it is quite obvious that there are folks new to reloading who started AFTER the ammo crunch. Starting this hobby in the middle of a vast shortage is quite scary, to say the least. Somewhere out there is someone subbing a powder that is "real close to the same number" with a pistol primer in a rifle load. Just this morning a fresh post from someone shooting 6.5cm and flowed a case WAAY into the extractor groove and no real idea what happened and a basket full of potential causes. Stay safe out there guys. And be careful on public ranges. Face shields are for more than C19 :-D

[@chriswilliams5268]

As someone else mentioned I too have been loading for over 40 years. In the old days all small primers were the same and the boxes were labeled " small pistol/rifle" primers. Large primers are a bit different as large rifle primers are a bit harder and ever so slightly taller However I've used em in for example. 45 ACP so long as it's a strong hammer spring weapon. Now onto magnums The magnum primers I've used burn hotter but DO NOT create more pressure Let me repeat THEY DO NOT create more pressure. I've swapped primers back n forth for almost 50 years now I even reload primers!!! The only issue I ever had was using large rifle primers with striker fired weapons. They didnt have the strength to crush occasionally so I'd get an occasional misfire. Like you I run the blue press as well as other progressives an single stage. I've loaded many 1000s of rounds per week for many MANY years as I've said

[@torreyintahoe]

This is very interesting. I still have several thousand large pistol primers but I don't use them cuz I only load 38 super and 9mm in pistol. I was considering using them for rifle cartridges but most guys advise against it.

[@culebrasty]

@@torreyintahoe I use Winchester large pistol primers on my 308 hunting loads, they are fine.

[@davewilson6539]

​@@torreyintahoeî is up in

[@trevorkolmatycki4042]

There is so much less hassle when you work with loads that have a substantial margin below maximum. I have come to prefer reliability and versatility across a wide range of variable conditions over an extra 50-100fps of velocity. For hunting application.

[@paulnelson7384]

THE RELOADER series of powder have shown me large variation in pressure and accuracy. Primerss in my testing have very little changes in accuracy and velocity. . Powders mostly ball powdersand some stick powders. IMR ⁵and Hodgen powders have been very complaint in pressures. You go on to say you changed barrels have you compared throats and chambers I don't expect to work up one load in one chamber and expect it to be ok in another.i don't trust computer programs to tell me about pressure, my blade micrometer and new brass tell me how its building pressure.

[@Mav8887.]

I have old boxes of primers that say for small pistol & small rifle 👀

[@jtkrpm1]

I’ve been using SRP in place of mangnum spp

[@Dwayne7834]

Thanks for the video and information.

[@BoltActionReloading]

No problem!

[@CascadingDream]

Can you do a video on normalized powder lots? There is quite a bit of chatter on "moisture content" but it seems like it comes from containers that have been open for a while and those that have not. Maybe take your new lot and leave it open on your bench for a week and see what velocity is like after.

[@BoltActionReloading]

Sounds like a great idea! (it might be in progress)

[@carpenterpilot487]

I like the handed, it reminded me a TV show sevgoolie👏

[@endutubecensorship]

Hello, I've been looking for a video that tests and explains the results of small rifle vs small rifle magnum primers in the same load(example: 223 loading) Did I miss that in this video or is the video on this topic?

[@BoltActionReloading]

Hello, If you check out this playlist it covers some various primer tests I have ran. kzbin.info/aero/PLXl7rMHW73NOtgyQHXIA-diiSYoEEDjiE I also have just completed some additional testing in 223 with 9 different primers with AR comp. My best guess at this point is that video coming out sometime in February if you want to look out for it. The other examples are going to be with 308 or 6.5CM I believe. I hope this helps. BAR

[@endutubecensorship]

@@BoltActionReloading Thank you very much for your reply. By the way your videos are a great resource and enjoyable to watch!

[@TheAdam2877]

When I heard you say 2900 fps and then mentioned over 3k fps my jaw hit the floor. I had no idea people were running 6.5 Creedmoor that hot. I know the reloading manuals of today are lawyered up so I don't expect true max values but the fact that it is stating H4350 is running around 60k psi at 2700 fps I can only imagine how close to the edge you guys are. It's a bug I get it but damn that seems like you're playing with fire at those speeds and pressures. Be safe.

[@defender119gonow5]

I use small pistol magnum primer on my 350 legend with mid load

[@timothymccoy3450]

I’m new 100% rookie, I didn’t use a magnum primer on my 6.5 creedmoor, I used larger primers. Should I have used larger magnum primers for it?

[@BoltActionReloading]

Hi Tim, Welcome to the channel! Its not a requirement at all. If what you have is giving you the results you want don't change. I just tested lots of options and the hotter primers tended to give me lower SD. If you do decide to try them drop your charge weight some and work back up so you aren't getting into pressure issues like I did in this video.

[@timothymccoy3450]

@@BoltActionReloading ok thank you, I’m gonna reload some 45acp here soon, but I’m trying to figure out what kind of primers to use. The brass I have is the large primers and I’m stuck to gunbroker for options and not sure what brand to go with.

[@CaptainCreampie69]

Throwing away your empty sleeves is the answer to having having empty sleeves. 😂🤣😂

[@dave5833]

I’m new so forgive me, are you saying that all primers are the same diameter but have different charges for different applications. As in a primer that fits my SW-40cal will fit in a 5.56 cartridge? Thanks Dave

[@BoltActionReloading]

Hi Dave, No apologies for being new. There are differences in thickness and tolerance between types, but external dimensions of small pistol / rifle are the same. Some people have advocated for using them universally. Here is a link if you want to see the exterior dimensions. ballistictools.com/articles/primer-pocket-depth-and-diameter.php BAR

[@dave5833]

@@BoltActionReloading thank you and love the channel will continue to follow and like. Good luck

[@dave5833]

@@BoltActionReloading I am going to start reloading the following calibers 5.56-SW40cal-300 Winchester Mag and shot shell. I have a ton of primers was thinking of trading them or selling some but might change my mind. Not where they are for another 17 days and will take an inventory then. Thanks again

[@guitarplayer1434]

there were 15 boxes of primers at cabela's friday , I got 3 as I had two friends that don't reload so they bought me a box at 1 per person

[@BoltActionReloading]

Lucky guy there. I haven't seen a reloading anything at cabelas in months that I didn't order online

[@guitarplayer1434]

@@BoltActionReloading I think there is enough reloading supplies , but people are buying them and trying to make money on gunbroker. I started noticing that people would be selling half a brick but they would have quantities of thirty or forty and there where several different sellers that were doing this with new stock. I hate that they are doing this, but don't want bigbrother to step in.

[@DSMattitude]

why would you put empty sleeves back in the box? seems very silly

[@Obelisk57]

why would you put empty sleeves back?

[@ctfan1486]

The info i found online during the crap was sm rifle to sm pistol is OK but work your loads up. Not sm pistol to sm rifle. Some say sm pistol cups are thinner than sm rifle cups

[@Jdwg1972]

Thanks for the info! Off topic. What powder dispenser are you using in your Dillon 750?

[@BoltActionReloading]

I haven't loaded a ton on it yet. I am trying to get some experience with it before I make suggestions. Hope you enjoy the content, and thanks for the comment!

[@Jdwg1972]

@@BoltActionReloading understood. Using the Dillon powder die on my 550C so I can throw from my Redding BR3. Works great.

[@lovetoflylovetofly3843]

Good info and reminder.

[@adrastos123]

Small rifle and pistol are interchangable both velocity and pressure are neglidgable

[@WalterWhite-gw3vm]

Yeah man this has gotten ridiculous and even though I only reload 2 cartridges .223rem and 6.5cm I'm running low on components and I just can't bring myself to pay those high prices on Gunbroker so I went out and bought a Tikka t1x 22lr and set her up for precision shooting and came across a little pawn shop that had 3 case's of RWS 40gr professional line rifle match that shoots amazing for 22lr ammo and thank God because I bought all 3 case's an each case has 2,000rds in it. Sorry for the rant and that sucks you didn't keep track on your primers

[@BoltActionReloading]

Hi Walter, I lucked into some at my local shop. However IMO projectiles are a becoming a bigger problem for me at least.

[@WalterWhite-gw3vm]

@@BoltActionReloading I was just about down to my last 2 boxes of 70gr Berger VLD target until last weekend Brownells and Midway got some in stock. Happy hunting man

[@texpatriot8462]

@@BoltActionReloading There are no 6.5mm bullets available anywhere.

[@sherrypulec1449]

yep, had to remind Elvis ammo to be careful of the info he put out, because some rifle firing pins will pierce a pistol primer and not be hot enough for powder being used, causing problems in the worst way. then there is the other end of the spectrum that you just went over. really glad that you covered this, people are trying to reuse spent primers in ways that can not reproduce the ignition the same every time, so for that i thank you.

[@elvisammo]

What are you doing over here? Get back to the elvisammo channel... he needs more fair warning now more than ever! 🤣😂😎💣

[@sherrypulec1449]

@@elvisammo after yesterdays concocktion i am not sure of wanting to see the end results. just dont blow your face off.

[@dennispinpin8257]

Don't use damaged or worn out cartridges, reload cartridges 10 times maximum, small rifle primers can be substitute for small pistols Just rdmember to check cartridges well.

[@slightenigma]

RL26 is not optimized powder for CM. I enjoy that powder and like it’s performance, but I keep it for almost mags and magnums. I would bet H4350 would give you closer to optimum.

[@BoltActionReloading]

Optimal for SD/ES no, but if your trying to keep a hunting load at a velocity to keep good expansion for the longest time possible yes. Application is important. 200+ more fps = longer effective range.

[@slightenigma]

@@BoltActionReloading I am all for smaller holes at greater distances, that is my typical mind set and one of the things you do amazingly. I think it is great that we can disagree and have a common ground. We all enjoy this hobby and pursue excellence in this sport. Thank you for your reply and here is to hoping that components return to regular supply.

[@BoltActionReloading]

I am with you 98% of the time. In most cases I want both but in this case I know when I drop to 1800 fps I am not going to get the results I want on target. Velocity isn't everything, except when it is. Before I had both, this load isn't done, but it may not ever be a single digit SD and still be ok. I think it's important that we all realize we aren't all after the same goal, but that is fine.

[@chetcogar3758]

@@BoltActionReloading If you are not getting the velocity that you think you need, why not go to a cartridge that will do that for you safely and not by over pressuring a 6.5 Needmore? I have a Creedmoor and really like it for the accuracy and small powder charge requirement, but I don’t think trying to load it to 6.5x284 velocities is the answer, JMO. I really like your channel and mean no disrespect to you at all.

[@chetcogar3758]

I like the bigger calibers, that way I can get the speed I think I need. 300WM, 300WSM, 7MM REM, and my speed queen 👸 is a 6.5x300 Weatherby. Only downside is that they burn a lot of powder. I can stay away from max load and still get the accuracy and speed I am looking for. These rifles are mostly used for hunting, although I take the 300WM out to a thousand at the local range.

[@rbm6184]

While rifle primers may be able to withstand pistol case pressures, pistol primers may not be able to withstand rifle case pressures. Primers are made for certain case pressures. Some have used pistol primers in rifle cases without failures but they did so with low charges and therefore lower pressures. Bottom line is just follow manufacture load data to stay safe. If you use other primers in other cases then know the risks and dangers of increased case pressures.

[@jswnv7775]

Don't be coy. If you're not going to be in the video we don't need to see you waving your hand around. It's just distracting.

[@ditchdigger93]

After a lifetime of reloading for everything I shoot , probably in the millions of rounds, one day purely by accident I grabbed a box of CCI Small pistol primers and loaded them into some .223 full power loads before finally noticing what I'd done. I just don't make mistakes like this and was pretty embarrassed to put it mildly. Now what do I do? Well, maybe not the smartest thing I'd ever done but I decided to fire a few and see what happened. To make a long story short. Nothing. I couldn't see any difference at all in the primers or pressure signs so I didn't pull them. Not that I'd ever do that intentionally again and I sure don't advise doing it.

[@Rocky1115]

That's more powder than I've seen in stores around here in months. This completely sucks.

[@davidemontini8298]

Holy Hanna 3000 FPS....sweet!.....eh keep up the good work

[@justsnuggle]

WOAH Woah Woah! Since when did powder change in lot require load development again? No one ever told me that. Once I go through the time to find a load I want to just crank it out. And when I run out just make more even if it's 10 years later with all the same components but new stock. I don't have a range of my backyard to go load develop every time I change a lot to one of my components. That pretty much makes reloading pointless for me.

[@justsnuggle]

Can we get a video on how different lots of powder have different results?

[@BoltActionReloading]

Hi BT, Depending on how consistent things are lot to lot , yes small changes may be needed. There are many factors that make reloaders lives more interesting. I think the majority of us are tinkerers and enjoy the challenge. It does sound like a interesting video topic. I will have to look and see what I have in stock to work with.

[@jimhans1]

BT, canister powders for off the shelf retail sale are usually +/-8% of nominal burn rate. If you do you development with a slow lot, then run out and your new can is from the fastest lot, you could have a 16% increase in burn speed, and with that, an increase in pressures. If your load was near max to begin with, that extra pressures could put you way into over max territory........ Most if not all reloading manuals explain that ANY change in components for a load require a safe work up again......

[@chetcogar3758]

If you have to go to a new lot of powder, simply reduce your starting load a couple of grains and work the load up to the previous velocity area a few tenths at a time using common safety practices and a chronograph if you have one. There may be a small change in the required powder charge but it’s usually nothing dramatic. I personally have seen more pressure changes and spikes with primer changes than anything else.

[@justsnuggle]

@@jimhans1 I guess it's been a while since I got in the manuals but I didn't know specific lots would make that big a difference that is huge thanks for the info

[@unclenick222]

A couple of things to keep in mind about QuickLOAD. One is, as the instructions say, it assumes the mildest primer you can get is used. Also, its powder characteristics are based on closed bomb testing of a sample that is purchased off the shelf like any other and it can be different from your lot. Some updates to the database have resulted from testing additional samples, but you can spot this in some instances when you look at two powders that you know are the same except for the branding, like 296 and H110, and the powder data differs a bit. You will have to play with burn rate and starting pressure and maybe even energy content of the powder or the weighting factor a bit before you get a good match to what you actually are using. I always try to keep in mind Homer Powley's statement: "First contemplation of the problems of Interior Ballistics gives the impression that they should yield rather easily to relatively simple methods of analysis. Further study shows the subject to be of almost unbelievable complexity." The bottom line, as you concluded, is testing is essential.

[@BoltActionReloading]

Testing is always needed and just as soon as you think something it will find the exception for you. Thanks for the comment.

[@HansVanderVeken]

Pushing a 135grn bullet at 3000fps in a 6.5CM is asking for trouble, if you want that bullet at that speed you use 6.5-284 or a magum caliber.

[@BoltActionReloading]

I am not sure when loading to published data started being "asking for trouble". Clearly this combo is over pressure but have shot it previously (different primer and lot of powder) with no real indication of an issue still with velocities above 3000fps. Keep in mind that this barrel is 26" not 24" which the load data is based on.

[@HansVanderVeken]

@@BoltActionReloading to hot if you ask me, but hey its a free world. Putting magnum powder in a standard case, on the alaint website i only see large capacity or magnum calibers on the reloader 26 list, additional your barrel probably have to be replaced after 1500 rounds true it.

[@cpaoutdoors9926]

Yes they are universal

[@user-lu1xi5mu5t]

What I don't understand: how can you go to the shooting range without having checked every single cartridge beforehand? No primer? That would never happen to me! But I'm just a picky German...

[@BoltActionReloading]

It had a primer when it went into the chamber. It came out when it was ejected. (over pressure)

[@x2malandy]

And a funny German too.

[@James_Barris]

Small rifle primers are the same as small pistol primers

[@carllykins4488]

Hey that's that's my store too lol

[@JohnDoe-jn4ex]

Wow you have primers

[@braddaktar1182]

I only use small magnum rifle primers in peterson small primer or palma 308s, best performance and consistently

[@BoltActionReloading]

Hi Brad, Don't tell everyone the secret. I need to find some CCI-450s. (I am down to about 150) Thanks for the comment.

[@monkeyking9291]

well, the most important thing is ----------primers still on sale

[@Peter-od7op]

I really dont consider a cup and draw bullets great for hunting deer and elk. Nosler partition bullets perform much better. The real gunsmith has a great vdo on bullet construction

[@timhofstetter5654]

You actually own a plastic press?

[@garydean1983]

Any serious loader will not step outside of the recipes . if u do u should not load amo on your own ..

[@BoltActionReloading]

Hi Gary this load is based on data from Berger. 49.8 gr of RL-26 with the 135 CH. Berger does not specify a primer so not sure how to help you here. The problem is with changing lots of powder and swapping primers (cause I was out of the lot I had been using) and not backing down a little.

[@garydean1983]

All this is b.s. . unless u have the capability to test muzzle pressure

[@BoltActionReloading]

Hi Gary, Funny you should mention that. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZawq6Rpj8qjj8k

[@wbw31979]

🙂

[@kerbyfab]

Come on man.... you just tryna to show off all your primers! 😢😭

[@BoltActionReloading]

Yeah those are all the different types of primer I have in stock, surly I have no more than that.

[@Bassboy123]

Save the jargon & just show the groups