Bolton ebike Rad Rover Upgrade-5 Things to Know

5 things to know as you consider buying the Bolton eBikes Rad Rover Upgrade Kit.
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[@peacefulprepper2402]

I got the same fenders for my 19 rover. I am a slower rider, old, lol, so I don't need the upgrade. I will be doing a video on extending the rear fender. I just posted on filling the gaps the fenders leave. Thanks for the great videos

[@SantaCruzLocal]

Bought the large mounting box , the controller fits easily, the problem is that it’s way too large IF you have the original fenders on the rad rover 5 . The fix as you explained is to just use the old hard ware ( which is hardened steel ) and by longer screws with locking bolts .

[@thomasfoley1699]

Just seeing this now but appreciate it. Thank you!💚

[@DanielLopes-jt8yl]

WHAT❗️❗️No better top speed❗️❗️New screen! Ok I’m all good now whew, I feel better. But seriously I have to go back into the situation room and re=think the PLAN. That torque is good takes right off. With the 750watt hub upgrade should get up de hill. Well that’s the rethink. Thanks man this really helps my go over as I haven’t committed $ yet. They never asked me for pictures❗️Their onto you man keep an eye out your window may be a black van parked out there😡 Thanks man!

[@mitchcrilly1291]

Hi,I have a Rad Rover 5, but I have a heck of a time not getting passed going up slight hills by ol gal on a Hoveraound, but seriously I have to put it onPAS 5 and pedal like the dickens to get up the last paved hill to the house! Otherwise love the Bike its 2021 Step Through so my wife can ride it if she desires ! she has the little folding step through and zips by me going up the hill (my calves are like a mules) flat or downhill I want to upgrade the Brakes to Hydraulic we have about 600 miles on our bikes and brakes have been adjusted 3 times and rear are about shot,,, any suggestions on Bolton Upgrade will be great. My cpu won't let me on his site or Area 13 because of VPN i guess, doesn't let me on many sites, I think someone fiddled w/the settings ! i usually watch tubes on our smart tv, my email address is [e-mail] if anyone out there has any ideas for us, Thanks 7/27/22 - IN GOD WE TRUST

[@1951pwaitzman]

Your vids are great. What light do you have mounted over the display?

[@EpicBearr]

they actually cover everything nearly rad is really good with having your back, mine came with a slight bent front disc break so slight i didnt notice it until few days of riding and i happened to look down at it and it was wobbling without actually affecting the experience, contacted rad and they sent me a new one and paid my local shop to change it for me

[@CitizenCycle925]

Actually mine was bent too but I just lived with it.

[@dailyrider2975]

I've put 4k miles on my rad-wagon. I live a hilly area of Sothern California. This is what makes a difference with battery life and power used. On the flat you can go lvl2 battery and 18+mph, making if more efficient than lvl3 power. However any kind of hill in level 2 slows it down enough to effect the torque output. Now mine is older direct drive motor and more effected by this. sweet spot for torque on mine is around 20mph. So if I go lvl2 up a incline at 11mph or lvl 3 at 19mph I'm using about the same power as you going that much faster. So I rarely use lvl2 in my area as we have so many inclines. On bigger hills I'm lvl5 and going 6mph which sucks as drain is high and torque is low. I've actually felt on slight inclines as I come off stop light that pedaling gets easier as I go faster as the torque increases.

[@kevinkameny5516]

Hello. Good review. If the controller doesn’t add too speed, how does it affect pedal assist modes and actual assist?

[@marcfontaine6050]

Just purchased the upgrade kit. Which exact controller box will the controller fit into? Thank you

[@rickyn1135]

I concur,on the use of the throttle decreases range. That’s because it skips the PAS settings & is PAS 5 when. Using throttle I’m 6’1” 250lbs. I use PAS 2-3 & peddle and I go about 20 MPH. I also have lots of equipment on my bike. 2019 Wagon. It believe it would be nice if the throttle would only be ‘PAS setting we choose. CC,do you know or have any idea of how to disconnect the on off switch but keep the throttle.? ThY.

[@cahokia33]

I have the radrover 5 I have all stock except, I purchased the 52v 20amp battery that Bolten sold. I can get 70 to 80 mile on one charge. On pedal assist 3 or 4 and 5 at times. Going 20 to 22 mph I went 22 miles on pedal assist 4 and lost one bar.

[@cahokia33]

@D Larson don't know make Boltenbikes.com Radcity don't know I have a radrover5

[@CitizenCycle925]

That is great range but more than I need, I will probably change battery in the future to get higher top speed.

[@lnguy3n74]

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[@sobebikes3225]

You shouldn't make false claims. Get on your bike and really test the mileage but don't make false claims. Thank you

[@darkknight7169]

Looks like Batung has a 1000 watt motor with the upgraded controller from bolton do you think the rad5 could handle it?

[@danielkaz6280]

For the controller u don’t need waterproof bags? Thank you

[@contactexperiencer57]

What do you have mounted above your controller ??

[@howieg6998]

I heard you mention your Rover had no USB port.... funny thing is my 2017 Rover has a USB port on the bottom of the controller (not easily noticed if your not looking in the right area) , just fyi...I use it to keep my phone charged with a 6" 90 degree USB cable...

[@tracywagers1399]

What do you set the settings at on a Rad city 4 on the 35 amp upgrade

[@DavePanesar-pv2yj]

Hi do you have video how wto install radrover 6 plus upgrade thanks

[@Brian-yw7yd]

New subscriber here. Loving the reviews. I have a comment about your other video. The Rad Bike did go faster on your tests. Can you please explain? Thanks in advance.

[@CitizenCycle925]

Hi Brian, thanks for subscribing, not sure what video you are referring to, i have well over 100 videos, a lot are about the Rad bike. i have made many changes to it including controller, battery, and motor and all those changes have made it quite fast. i have a Radrover playlist you could check out to see my upgrades. if you have specific questions you can always email me at [e-mail]

[@Altema22]

My question is: In PAS level 1, what speed does the PAS cut off and throttle cut off? With my upgrade kit, it's 9 mph, and annoys the heck out of me!

[@hughheli]

Hi there, I have 18 Rad rover can you take a pic or video how to set up the screen please thanks.

[@kinazz19]

Are those the rims that bike comes with ?

[@HailCaesar-yr1re]

Citizen, did you do the "hack" where you press both buttons on the PAS controls (in stock form pre-controller upgrade) before you did the tests for your previous video? There is a well known "hack" ( i use the term loosely) that takes the PAS 20MPH limit to 25MPH. You may be able to still do it, despite having another controller. I'm looking at getting one myself, and was curious about the range. You mentioned that you only really have to use PAS level 1...theoretically does using that low of a level PAS for a longer period of time still mean you get much less range, or does it improve the range in any way being at such a low level?

[@daveboehne907]

Would love to know this answer as well! Great question

[@CaptainOoch]

Changing the settings on the stock controller to 25mph top speed is quick and easy. Electrobikeworld.com claims that the KT-LCD8H, used in conjunction with the controller and motor upgrade, can be adjusted to achieve a max speed of 45 mph. Obviously, this is not legal in most places but it is the claim. I’ve seen plenty of others who report higher top speeds after the upgrade.

[@DeafAlone32]

Idk if you'll see this because it's an old video, but do you remember if it took away the big deley the bike has when it starts to accelerate? I want my bike to feel snappier, since i use it to do stunts and wheelies, relying on the motor (i have a RR+ and i love I'm Canada, so 500w.) Do you think if this (a 35amp upgrade) would help me keep the front end up?

[@CitizenCycle925]

there is a setting in the new display the allows for stronger take off acceleration, i think its C5. when i upgraded my RR it was super easy to wheelie it.

[@toddfleshman9817]

Can the controler be changed from klm to mph? Thanks

[@danl6961]

I think the Amazon controller box you show is too narrow, 65mm, for the Bolton upgrade controller, 80mm.

[@peterah7957]

I would appreciate the extra torque then speed

[@ThePackDad]

I read the 750W motor upgrade has less torque than the stock Rad Mini 4 500W(same as the Rover). I would think if I upgrade the controller, I'll get better torque, then upgrade the motor and I'll also get a faster max speed.

[@edhughes1891]

Who makes those rearview mirrors? I like that they are at the ends of the bars.

[@The13lade12unner]

Have you tried changing the tire size to 18” and if so does it affect the top speed

[@CitizenCycle925]

i have actually tried this hack once and it showed no difference for me.

[@seattlebasher8021]

I'm having issues where the PAS only engages for short little half second burst as I pedal. I have the bafang 750w motor and the 35a controller. Only thing I can think of is the pas sensor might be the issue since I had replaced the disc previously. Could it need to be flipped around to face the other direction for this controller?

[@platoscavealum902]

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[@N_acosta]

I bought my wife the Radrunner (single speed). Will this help with the power when using pedal assist? We have hills and im hoping this will help climb those hills with oedal assist. Thanks!

[@CitizenCycle925]

not sure if this controller works on the radrunner or not, you would have to check the bolton website. but it gives you more power everywhere, throttle and pedal assist.

[@francisl.goodwins6724]

I installed the upgrade on my Radrunner. I like the new meter, and it has twice the power (seemingly), but I'm still not sure it is worth the reduction in range. I used to get 24 miles on pretty flat mountain trails, but I only got 17 miles after the upgrade. Still trying to see if the settings menu can help.

[@cliffy2389]

Where did you get the dual bottle holder? I need that in my life…

[@CitizenCycle925]

MRI Denver

[@raywong5454]

I watch your video have a 2020 rad step through 3 will that controller and screen work on that model? I understand it will only give u a little pick up power but no top speed.. After I purchase this controller and screen what would It need to do to increase the top speed? Let me know thanks

[@CitizenCycle925]

There is a list of rad bikes that this will fit on the Area 13/Bolton website. If you have a 2020 Rad Rover 5 I think it should work. All of the settings are also listed on the website

[@raywong5454]

@@CitizenCycle925 ok thanks I'll check it out

[@deian85]

But if this controller is kicking out 1200W and the motor is 750W then wouldn't that burn and ruin it??

[@tracywagers1399]

Is there a way to lock the speed settings in the display with a password so the speed can’t be changed without a password

[@livinglifemyway7349]

how many amps is the motor controller now?

[@GuiltyDark]

As far as I know it's a 35 amp controller.

[@tracywagers1399]

I don’t know how to get the speedometer to read correctly on the display

[@wallyklou8848]

Is there an upgrade for a rad mini? I’m in Canada so my motor is 500 watt and not powerful enough for some of the hills in my neighbourhood...cheers🍷🇨🇦

[@HailCaesar-yr1re]

what's a neighboUrhood?

[@skepticsr_us]

HailCaesar01481 : neck of the woods

[@sobebikes3225]

The same one will work on the rad mini. I have it installed. Works great

[@MrBluemoonhalos]

Where did you get the water bottle holder?

[@CitizenCycle925]

MRI Denver

[@ISUCATGOLF1]

Is that a dual bottle holder? Info please

[@CitizenCycle925]

The bottle holder is made by MRI Denver. Also check out my accessories video for info on all my aftermarket parts. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqi5Z4Cud6eGaMk

[@garydean1983]

Nice bike, should have brought a ecells .

[@gonetowin]

So if the Bolton controller doesn’t increase the top end speed what does? Thanks and have a nice day.

[@CitizenCycle925]

from what i've seen, you need to increase battery voltage to gain top speed.

[@gonetowin]

@@CitizenCycle925 got it. Thanks for the info. I'm slowly learning.

[@markcarvalho1327]

I just finished my 35 amp controller upgrade.. what is the error code 30?

[@CitizenCycle925]

Communication error between the display and the controller I think.

[@tonybrock3943]

How do I just speedometer it only says I'm doing 3 miles hour?

[@CitizenCycle925]

i have the P2 Setting set to 5 on mine, my speedo jumps around a bit but its the best i have found.

[@mitchcrilly1291]

YAY, I FINALLY GOT SUBSCRIBED TO YOUR VIDEOS! HOPE TO SEE MORE RAD 5 CONVERSIONS , I NEED HELP ON THE HILLS THANKS AGAIN, IN GOD WE TRUST -NOT BRANDON

[@brithebikeguy732]

I did the upgrade 2 days ago. Video up on my channel.

[@kellyrogers4301]

Is there a controller upgrade kit for a 2020 rad rover 5?

[@richardstevens5961]

Yes, I ordered one from Bolton’s site for my Rover 5 and the bike isn’t going to be here till the end of October.

[@joston29]

Ordering now she'll be here October 8. Can't wait

[@joston29]

Oops meant ordered controller order my rr5 in sept she'll be here Oct 8

[@richardstevens5961]

Joston Tan Mines taking longer, because I’m located in NY. Update: my Rover 5 will be here next week, I cancelled the Bolton controller order and instead ordered it from Electro Bike World. They have the controllers in stock while Bolton’s was on backorder.

[@3113jp]

Seems similar to the Himiway Cruiser.

[@Summitperry]

You are seeing peak voltage.

[@rickconn8444]

How is the torque with the controller ?

[@CitizenCycle925]

no sure how to describe or measure torque, but i can tell you the difference is quite noticeable with new controller. accelerates way stronger off the line, feels like it has way more hill climb power too. did you see my results video, i did side by side video comparisons.

[@rickconn8444]

@@CitizenCycle925 Ok Thanks

[@rickconn8444]

@@CitizenCycle925 No miss that video

[@carlzylak4716]

I installed the bolton upgrade controller and display on my 2020 Rad Rover 5. Initial test ride all seemed fine. Second time I took it out, there was a loud struggling sound from the motor. The throttle would cut out between 7-12 mph. The pedal assist would cut out, not engage or surge. Has anyone else experienced this? I sent an email to Bolton but have no response. Going to switch back to the stock controller

[@CitizenCycle925]

hi Carl, i have not had any of those issues, my only suggestion would be to double check all the settings, maybe something is off.

[@richardstevens5961]

What happened when you switched back to the stock controller? Have you informed Bolton and gotten a response? We’re you able to rectify the situation?

[@richardstevens5961]

Carl Zylak Any updates on this?

[@wallawallawine1]

RICHARD Stevens yes Bolton got emailed me back with some programming suggestions. I switched back to the stock controller and no issues. I plan on putting the Bolton controller again tomorrow. Will post results...

[@richardstevens5961]

Carl Zylak Good luck, maybe a momentary blip on the time/space continuum..!!

[@tonybrock3943]

Can I hate a picture of your settings trying to get speedometer to work

[@CitizenCycle925]

i have the speedo setting (P2) set to 5. my speedometer jumps aroudna bit though, its not perfect.

[@Youneverknow100]

do you got two watches on

[@CitizenCycle925]

one is a bracelet :)

[@mitchcrilly1291]

@@CitizenCycle925 HEY THERE, I CAN'T GET ON AREA 13 OR BOLTON SITE FROM MY CPU, CAN SOMEONE EMAIL THEIR AND OTHER INFO OR PHONE FOR CONTROLLER UPGRADE! I JUST WANT TO GET MY RAD ROVER 5 UP SIMPLE HILLS W/O THE 90 YEAR OLD WHIZZING PAST ME AS I TRY TO KEEP MY BIKE UPRIGHT !! DOWNHILL FLAT ITS AS AMPLE AS I NEED IT TO BE 26-32 W/SOME MEAT ON THE PEDALS ........ I ENJOY YOUR VIDEOS AND COMPARISONS! I DESIRE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT YOUR AWD RAD IF YOU CAN GO LIKE 30+ MILES IN REAR WHEEL DRIVE AND THEN JUST DRIVE THE OTEHR 30+ IN FRONT WHEEL DRIVE! OHH, ABOUT WHAT WAS COST AGAIN FOR CONTROLLER UPGRADE AND SET UP??? THANKS AGAIN - IN GOD WE TRUST ,,,,, SOMEHOW MY CPU LET ME LOG ONTO UTUBE BUT DOESN'T LET ME SUBSCRIBE TO ANYTHING , COULD THAT BE MY VPN PROTECTION ???? ANYONE

[@CRCfail]

To sum it up, $200 and you get to 20mph a little faster. That's it folks!

[@roosterinmarari]

And how much more range ? Thanks

[@richardstevens5961]

A LOT faster, it transforms the bike..!! Plus an upgraded controller, color.

[@roosterinmarari]

RICHARD Stevens what about range?? Does this increase the distance?

[@richardstevens5961]

roosterinmarari This increases torque, that’s about it. Range I believe is all dependent upon throttle usage.

[@roosterinmarari]

RICHARD Stevens ok cool I’ll probably jus buy an extra battery for $500 that’s the biggest thing I care about is the range

[@mm-oe7tk]

The upgrade kit is out of stock last time I checked.

[@EpicBearr]

he got the one without the taillight i think or maybe was one of the early batch people

[@CitizenCycle925]

I ordered mine in mid February, it's the first run that didn't have the taillight plug.

[@victorkan7288]

Sounds like buying a himiway is a better upgrade

[@CitizenCycle925]

i would say that a stock himiway is stronger than a rad with the controller upgrade yes.

[@johnmccay6691]

Bolton does not make it. It is not the Bolten controller many aftermarket dealers sell this controller

[@geeterdun5966]

What other dealers sell it? I looked can't find it.

[@Brandon_Neil]

Yes this is technically true, but unless you are willing to go on some Chinese website and cross check every connector yourself to make sure it fits and works then you can. Or spend the extra 50$ to buy it from Bolton since he's done all the work to make sure it works. Plus he warranties it, good luck getting warranty on the one you buy off of alibaba

[@sideburn]

Yeah. The problem is there’s not an aftermarket controller out there that I can find that has the brake light function. Which sucks because aftermarket controllers are only $50-$60.00. But if you want the radpowerbikes connectors and proper wiring+brake light function you’ve got to shell out twice as much cash.

[@jasonlittle118]

Top speed, bull shit. With the new controller, the video explains everything. He tells you how to mount it and adjust the programming. The stock mount will not work, and with his instructions it was easy and has zero problems!!!

[@billybignose5360]

Does it make it go further

[@jasonlittle118]

@@billybignose5360 no, you can add a battery which will help out a lot. Bolton has the parallel connection to add a battery. I added another 48V to my back rack. I watched videos for soldering and connections. Then went to my local metal shop and bought a piece of aluminum to mount the battery to. If I could add pictures I would.

[@billybignose5360]

@@jasonlittle118 So what’s the point of buying the controller

[@jasonlittle118]

The stock controller is limited. If you are comfortable with the stock ride and don’t want the extra power or speed then that’s okay. It’s just a personal preference.

[@billybignose5360]

@@jasonlittle118 oh ok thx

[@BOURNE354]

Hilarious how he keeps saying how its made for Rad bikes so the rest of us can fck off

[@edwardk3]

This video is sexeist