BON IVER + KANYE WEST, Finding Your Voice

[@lautarozejan3935]

Kanye, Bon Iver, Francis & The Lights, James Blake, Frank Ocean, Chance. Musical geniuses infuencing one another. The human voice as the ultimate musical instrument.

[@shobithchadagapandeshwar9764]

Lautaro Zejan Id add Thom Yorke and Destroyer too , even Anohni. Even electronic music artists like Burial has completely changed the landscape of how the voice can be perceived

[@aR0ttenBANANA]

you mean Travis Scott.

[@aR0ttenBANANA]

Especially considering that Kanye's badn CRS with Pharrell and Lupe Fiasco was supposed to drop an album in 2010 with only samples from Radiohead and Thom Yorke's solo work, all with his approval.

[@txird4576]

Take off chance and ur right

[@AmazingTNT]

Jon Bellion.

[@danaandthewolf]

This video is everything. I went through a Kanye obsession and a Bon Iver obsession separately. When I found out they were associated my mind blew up.

[@edwarddawson4735]

Dana and the Wolf exactly the same!!!!

[@Rockstar_chainz]

ME TOOO

[@jacobhaarala6744]

My bob Iver actually led to my Kanye obsession😂

[@harryjang3408]

Cool to see a Vero user here

[@born2dance181]

SAME

[@cordellcox4666]

I was blown away by 22, A million. I still get teary eyes every time i hear 715 Creeks.

[@captainpiefox9133]

22, a million quite literally changed my life

[@MayorBrownn]

Best album ever

[@ej1304]

Absolutely, I love all of Bon Iver's music and Kanye's. Just incredible artists

[@deviateedits]

@@captainpiefox9133 I love how 22AM seemed to have the same effect on so many of us, but I doubt anyone could actually articulate what that effect was beyond "it changed my life"

[@mintmosaic2145]

Bon Iver- For Emma, Forever Ago changed my life and their first album got me through the darkest times of my life. Hauntingly Beautiful , Always.

[@mathewpepe3645]

me too bro. sickens me to see him associated with a loser like Kanye

[@drewcooke7]

@@mathewpepe3645 racism

[@lexilostinwonderland493]

Very beautiful breath taking album

[@dojaneko179]

Kanye's creativity on MBDTF and YEEZUS is on whole another level. (of course every single album is AMAZING), but these two album means so much to me. Technically, musically, emotionally.

[@MrSOAD10]

Mitchie Ocean my Kanye’s top 3 with 808’s

[@kevinlindgren95]

MBDTF took Kanye to a whole new level.

[@rjcardenas2299]

Me too, and 808s and heartbreak

[@kingofweedswood]

Another whole level*

[@lenenlawless]

TLOP is his best work, sonically and thematically

[@shufflequest]

Love it. Can't wait to see what Kanye and Bon Iver do next.

[@user-sb8kq8dx6h]

This aged well

[@douglasgonzalez5412]

@@user-sb8kq8dx6h how so? Because of Kanye's public antics? They can still make music, y'know!

[@user-sb8kq8dx6h]

Douglas Gonzalez Exactly because of his public antics. Regardless of whether you do or don’t support his decisions, it’s was quite unexpected for him to appear in the Oval Office conversing about green energy. As for other things he’s done since his actions in the video, you can’t surely believe declaring “Slavery was a choice” was something that would be heard with praise? Of course they can still make music, but Kanye so often uses his life as an inspiration for his music. At what point will people disagree so much with the inspiration that they don’t want to hear the product. Im a firm Kanye Music fan.

[@andresleclerc8736]

Shuffle Quest Justin had a few production credits on Kids see ghost but yeah they always seem to work together.

[@musicman6555]

Sadly, Justin said he doesn't feel comfortable working with Kanye after those recent developments.

[@unwritten_zephyr]

Kanye West and Justin Vernon are two modern artists that have completely mastered the use, power, and versatility of the human voice. The fact we never got a full collab album from the two of them is so sad.

[@Volksgeist]

WOW! good job.

[@showerheads]

lit

[@cognitio278]

The comment is at 69 likes. Please let it stay there. Let's collaborate for this cause people.

[@grezlythabear]

I love your videos

[@annahau8588]

BON IVER ¿¿¿ Bone-y-Vair ??? Shiiit, I've been pronouncing it bon-eye-vir > bon, as in bond or ron, eye, vir like fur, or vertical.

[@jobsmine]

I love Kanye West and his legacy even though am not fan of rap/hip-pop, he made me see the world in a better different way. As an Engineer I am forever thankful for Kanye. I always listen and study his works. And 808 & heartbreaks is for me his genius album. Even though all of his works are genius.

[@liamwells8622]

Wait till you hear his new album. Mind blown

[@lmeko9787]

you should get more into hip hop

[@tarrasque419]

As a sound engineer you HAVE to admire Yeezus, I still think it's his overall best album. Definitely right up there w/ 808's + MBDTFantasy.. For whatever reason the album I find myself re-listening to the most seems to be The Life of Pablo, though. IDK, I just love Kanye.

[@sackboi1211]

are you still a fan now?

[@jobsmine]

@@sackboi1211 yes always. I have faith in him.

[@Pedroapares]

22 million is a masterpiece. Very underrated

[@peterlukats937]

How'd you figure that? It was widely critically acclaimed!

[@fabolousninenine30]

How is it underrated ? It‘s critically acclaimed.

[@tuamigoyvecinolevi]

I wouldn't say "Underrated" but rather "Not talked about enough"

[@razbuten]

I enjoyed this. I've always wanted to know more about the vocal effects Bon Iver uses (and how they changed from For Emma to 22), but I never took the step to research it myself, so this was useful. I always thought it was weird that these two started making music together as they are very different in style and (from a personality standpoint) bravado, but laying it out like this makes it clear that the way both have always made music-focusing on the voice-is where their common thread lies, and both have pushed each other to find more and more creative ways to utilize that approach. Cool stuff, man.

[@Ray-jg1bw]

It's pronounced "Bon Iver"?? I've been saying "Bon Iver" this whole time

[@ChromVsChrom]

Nah you guys are still saying it wrong. It’s “Bon Iver”

[@benmurcy]

Yes

[@StayBlessed47]

@@ChromVsChrom sounds more like "Bon Iver" to me.

[@lu881]

I had to Google how to pronounce it and did so.

[@emmaknoll7153]

Raymond Matthew it comes from “bon hiver” which means good winter in French !

[@MassiniMonster]

22 A Million is my favorite album of all time. Saw it live at Coachella last year and it changed my life. Really something new for music

[@CaesarEllish1]

Was having a conversation with a fellow engineer at chipotle just this afternoon about Vernon’s use of this “prism” effect and we were assimilating it to Francis’ and hypothesizing on how he does it. Then just 5 minutes ago this popped up randomly in my feed. Thank you so much. You’ve answered so many questions. I liked and subscribed because you have done nothing but earn my respect. Keep em coming!

[@Middle8]

That’s hilarious, glad I could help answer some of those questions. Welcome to the channel!

[@CaesarEllish1]

Middle 8 it’s all so crazy to me because I saw him last October in Asheville, NC, and his head engineer told me that the effect for “woods” and “creeks” is found on ableton. When I tried to pry a little more, he said, “I’m sorry man. I just can’t tell you.” Haha. So... not sure what if he accesses “the macina” through ableton as his daw vehicle of choice or what, but regardless is still funny to me.

[@layoverbear]

It’s rare that i am left speechless by a youtube video and staring at my screen for a minute just thinking. This is just a whole other level of quality, can’t wait to see what you do next x

[@GameScoreFanfare]

You've done the impossible. You've made me appreciate 22, A Million. I'm gonna have to go back and listen to that album again. Also, your editing skills are quite frankly getting disgustingly good and clever. Stop being perfect please.

[@Middle8]

LOL thanks Mitto! And please do, it’s a great little collection of sounds.

[@Asad_Thomas]

You definitely should. I've listened to that album at least 10 times. It's actually really technical when you listen to everything.

[@grgehlen4718]

22 is brilliant. Once you get into it.

[@clareowen1560]

It's magic. Please give it another go.

[@TheWayofGrace89]

Game Score Fanfare Man, yes, go back and check it out again. From beginning to end 22, A Millions is now and was an instant classic. Right up there with Kid A from Radiohead.

[@MonieMuse]

Bon Iver is one of my favorite artist, he is so creative. I’ve also admire Kanye’s work, never knew the two worlds were connected.

[@lesryglrhfohser]

funny his new album sounds very inspired by bon iver

[@neonlost]

seems like they just keep inspiring each other and I'm fine with that

[@noahmcdaniel4920]

I don’t hear that at all.

[@zachanderson242]

Bon Iver secludes himself in the cabin to record his album. Kanye recorded his latest album in Wyoming - one of the most isolated places in the country.

[@jbkrule]

Justin Vernon literally helped write one of the songs so you might want to listen closer

[@f.lashby8298]

Noah McDaniel Ye is Kanye's most vulnerable album. This is like 808s Part II combined with the craziness of TLOP.

[@Middle8]

Thanks for watching! Is there another music story you think deserves more attention? Tell me in the comments below.

[@vincentmichaud3394]

Dan Auerbach

[@jakeunderwood9]

If you wanna stay in the Justin Vernon rabbit hole you should talk about his, and The National's Aaron Dessner, music festival Eaux Claires. It's in Justin's hometown of Eau Claire, WI. He premiered his last album there in a live performance. This year is it's fourth year of existence and they aren't going to officially announce the lineup. It's a wonderful wonderful experience, I've been going since the beginning, and it more people should know about it.

[@arkanoid376970]

Thee Oh Sees/Oh Sees/OCS

[@revaariane4675]

Middle 8 Lucy Rose please

[@revaariane4675]

Middle 8 the last album of The Black Keys!

[@Soulr]

Love your editing. Beautiful aesthetics as always

[@Middle8]

Thank you!

[@matteoferrari5821]

Thank you for posting this as Bon Iver is one of my favourite artists. Despite being a polarising album I love 22 a million and hearing the songs live is a whole other experience

[@DickMittens]

They both inspired each other. Justin Vernon(lead singer/composer in Bon Iver) did a lot of the things kanye does now, way before kanye did. Justin has like 5 bands that do a a bunch of different genres. Kanye West took a lot from Bon Iver and Justin's other band "volcanic chior"

[@eleven9286]

Volcanic Choir lolol

[@staigenerator2949]

volcano choir didnt exist before 808s

[@tomflynn4720]

Middle 8 could be the best new music channel

[@RhythmGrizz]

Tommy Flynn LieLikesMusic is a good contender too.

[@GameScoreFanfare]

Tommy Flynn 9.3 BNM.

[@14AspenDrive]

It really is the best

[@nicolita222222]

And Deep Cuts and Alfo Media

[@terenceflynn5125]

Are you my Dad?

[@abhirajranjan8070]

Whoopidy Scoop Whoop di scoop di poop. whoopidy scoop whoop poop.

[@Middle8]

That verse though

[@abhirajranjan8070]

IKR. On a side note though, could you please make a video list of your album collection and your favorite ones amongst them ? I'd also be pleased to see you review and promote new albums in an 'album of the week' like concept. Love your videos and these channels are my primary sources for new music. Please consider my suggestion, Good luck !

[@elias_xp95]

It's so deep

[@zafiruzoma6234]

i know people joke about it, but it's obviously deliberate and a critique

[@sudevsen]

Bonity iveroop

[@benjaminbeboux3255]

I have been frantically watching this video over and over.. this is truly amazing work. at 3:55, that saxophone is the stuff of dreams and I'm still looking for what song it's from

[@tonytey6784]

Yo man,enjoyed this,this was dope!

[@Ambussing]

Justin's "For Emma, Forever ago" was my first love is the world of music, everything he releases is a new way for me to listen to music especially "22, A Million" that is a true masterpiece

[@DanielBelloYourMexFriend]

Bon Iver and Kanye West simultaneously changed my life, both their work together and separately. I fucking love this video.

[@Middle8]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@austinavocadofr]

I feel like I should be paying to watch this video. Its so well done

[@wisanga1902]

I love how in-depth your videos are!!

[@leodeluca7696]

Perfect example of two artists brining out the best in each other

[@Mrrandomstuff1997]

Hate to be that guy, but I just love Kanye for his sampling and those squeaky voice hits on Good Life is actually an MJ sample. That flip is insane.

[@evvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv]

I've been lucky enough to see both Kanye and Bon Iver live on the Saint Pablo and 22, A Million tours in Edmonton... I can honestly say that although they perform a very different kind of music from each other, they make you feel THE SAME emotion. Its an out of body experience. Both incredible artists.

[@kevinlindgren95]

Lost in the world is one of my top 5 favorite Kanye songs.

[@lu881]

I had no idea that was Bon Iver/Justin Vernon's voice in Hold My Liqour! It just cemented my appreciation for these two and the hot they've brought in my life every time I put these ear pieces on.

[@LieLikesMusic]

Glued to the screen as always. Sometime, somewhere, someone is gonna make a videon on how Middle 8 inspired Lie Likes Music haha. Good to see the collab between you and Shuffle Quest already. Much love.

[@sint0xicateme]

It's so crazy Justin collaborated with Paulo because both Sunny Side Up and For Emma, For Ever Ago literally saved my life in 2009. So dope. Great work, man.

[@mydigitallog2652]

22, a million is probably my favorite album of all time.

[@kalgrandy2101]

I didn't know anything about Bon Iver other than his music. This video just compounds it and makes it even more full of art than before. Love the title, finding your voice, and great video length too.

[@ddfcflop]

This is outstanding content - just found you the other day through the Tame Impala vid, watched a couple vids and couldn't sub fast enough.

[@Middle8]

Thanks and welcome to the channel!

[@pinkysquenky4286]

I love Emma Forever Ago but 22 million was amazing,especially the 2nd part of the album

[@live4491]

Agreed ... From 666 to 0000 A Million. Especially 8(circle)

[@briankeogh335]

We need a video on YE this album has so much more to it than meets the eye

[@ThatOneGuy7550]

I am a Kanye stan, so this video is godsent, for me! (also I love Bon Iver!) Great video, dude, truly insightful analysis on how they have used the human voice so well in their music!

[@newbreed1199]

That One Guy We all deserve to be Kanye Stans

[@Chrisratata]

New Breed why

[@AlexLopez-hn5ru]

THIS WAS A FUCKING FEAST FOR MY EYES AND EARS! MUCH LOVE!

[@mitchhopkinson]

unbelievable video! 22, a million is probably my favourite album of all time

[@chrimbus3442]

Thank you for this video, honestly. This album (22 a million) is extremely important to me and I feel you nailed what made it so amazing to me.

[@tomevans1388]

Dude this needs to be way bigger than just this KZbin channel. Your work is amazing and needs to be documented via an online magazine style platform! So much appreciation for this man!

[@Middle8]

Thanks, glad you enjoyed!

[@jacksonhayes8074]

wow it was this video that changed my entire mindset and got me creating. i don’t think i’d be the person today if it wasn’t for the inspiration and information this video gave me. ty my guy

[@ThatGenericCanadian]

This album got me to go back and listen to Bon Iver's previous works with a new ear, and now he's one of my favourite artists. Great video!

[@henrycurtis3652]

Your content never fails to impress. Easily one of my favorite channels. Glad to have been here from the beginning!

[@Middle8]

Thank you 🙏

[@PlagueCatMk2]

This is probably going to be my first serious comment thanking a channel for their existence. I only found this video through some Bon Iver listening, and a vague memory on Kanye and Bon Iver working together. This video has brought me to a deeper understanding of both of their musical styles and an overall greater appreciation of music in general. Thank you, Middle 8.

[@malmcowy]

This was great! I'm writing my dissertation about how 808s & Heartbreak influenced other artists right now, so this was useful insight ;-)

[@suomibrother]

THANK YOU FOR PUTTING ME ON TO BON IVER I APPRECIATE IT

[@samsts7682]

A lot of “Woods” is also drenched in a vocoder. Not so much auto tune.

[@f.lashby8298]

Sam STS I love Woods. Such a great track. I think Blood Bank EP is Justin's best work. Those 4 tracks are so dense and heavy. Once you listen to it & close your eyes, you really think like you're alone in the middle of nowhere.

[@channelblue3246]

yeah i thought the same

[@emodro]

Woods doesn't have a vocoder on it whatsoever. It has justin singing through autotune with a looper.

[@AwesomeActivist]

yeah it's layers of autotune, seems like a vocoder but it's not.

[@oschea6735]

@@AwesomeActivist are you sure... cos this sounds exactly like every vocoder ive ever heard and there is a much more densely occuring sound which is more common with a vocoder because you can play the same note youre singing in multiple voices. also theres is alot less of the emphasis on consonants in words you usually hear with singing, and a big emphasis on vowels which is another very big give away of the use of a vocoder or talk box.

[@BEEFlad]

And people wonder why I love Justin so much. I mean his music have so much behind it and it's so beautiful. Even though you don't always hear what he's singing it's still understandable and I absolutely love that about him

[@lexilostinwonderland493]

Why do I cry each time I hear Bon iver god my soul

[@Nerufox-b9d]

Awesome video! However, at 5:27, you mentioned he loops his own voice in OverSoon but in an interview on his channel with reporters after the Eux Claire festival, he actually said that was a sample from a local radio show in Wisconsin, his hometown.

[@jrb4533]

Your channel is awesome- keep broadening people's exposure and understanding of these artists and the skies the limit

[@Middle8]

Thank you, will do

[@fahimebrahim4427]

You're videos bring back the goosebumps I get when I listen to the music for the first time, thank you so much for bringing me that feeling back.

[@Sloan_Alone]

This video was AMAZING!!! Thank you so much, I truly enjoyed it

[@JessiLeeRoss]

Holy shit. This video just arranged my nonsensical erratic emotions that are provoked by these sounds into a flow of perfect methodically profound sense. And in doing so, I'm exploding with inspiration. Thank you, Kanye & Justin Vernon. And thank you for addressing this masterpiece.

[@soaribb32]

I really like these kind of videos, I always take notes and perfect my ideas. It's very inspiring.

[@TheFlaaame]

I was lucky enough to see Bon Iver in the Apollo this year and can i say 22, A Million was not my favorite album before but after that night it quickly became my favorite. Live there is nothing else comparable.

[@cucumbrane]

WOW. this explains why Bon Iver is my most favoritest-estest artist in the world. Thank you for this. I'm inspired to create with this new information

[@Ardnightian]

Great video. Ive really enjoyed your videos in the past, but usually they’re just summarizations of a bands history. You’ve really nailed it this time by going after a more specific topic. Keep up the good work.

[@Middle8]

Thanks! And yeah I'm definitely trying to move away from the band summary thing when I can.

[@Ardnightian]

Middle 8 great to hear. I think a great topic idea could be one on Danger Mouse and how much he influences the style of artists he works with.

[@miguelbeteta8808]

Bro! You gave me goosebumps! Great video!

[@Middle8]

Thanks! So glad you enjoyed!

[@ucantseemeverywell]

Love the op-1 graphic, very neat

[@allanportes7333]

Im from Brazil and your channel is awesome! Congrats bro

[@Middle8]

Thanks!

[@WillHaskell]

This video is so well made. Hats off.

[@ASMR-pg2uy]

Can you do a video on Sufjan Stevens?

[@147andymc]

But, no.

[@noahinson]

Sufjan is the beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeest 🎸🎸🎸

[@DasCartoonLand]

would be great

[@oof-rr5nf]

Yes please!

[@eclecticsoulfire]

I guess we love the same types 😂

[@princepeachfuzz]

Thanks 4 existing

[@Kryptonic1997]

This! This is exactly the type of content im looking for. Beautiful!

[@EMAH669]

When i heard Bon Iver on the intro for monster and thought it was Kanye i realized they were intrinsically linked

[@AlexPGSV]

keep these vids comin

[@gabedepaul5407]

This is exactly the video I was looking for. Makes me love and so much more interested in the both of them

[@austinpeay1615]

Incredible video man, well done

[@bradsta114]

Definitely my new favourite channel

[@everydaymanfit5840]

Worth noting that Bjork created her masterpiece album 'Medulla' using only human voice with wide array of effects back in 2004。Which may also have inspired both artists in the way they manipulated their voices。

[@moneyatslander]

This is a great summary. I was hesitant coming in, being a BIG fan of BI and 22, A Million especially, but this is spot on.

[@saintarj4552]

Great video, Kanye West is honestly one of the greats, I didn't know he inspired Bon Iver like that

[@shoutinglove]

This was eye opening and enlightening. Thank you for making this!

[@mehzurilo]

i love how amazingly thorough your vídeos are!

[@RayNashar]

Wow. Thank you so much. I think this video might just be my favourite thing in the internet. You’ve shed a light on an historical experience in the evolution of music. I knew I loved the music. But I didn’t realise it was this big.

[@businesszeus4864]

These guys are musicians that I’ve never really gotten. I can see why people like it, but now I understand why I feel so similarly about them

[@chelseadupont6930]

715-Creeks is literally my favorite song ever 💙

[@joenicolette]

Excellent video, man. Thanks for the upload!

[@Middle8]

Thanks! And thanks for watching.

[@reckonre]

29 Strafford Apts uses this beautifully where the first two choruses build up with the messina and on the third it's completely stripped away to reveal the most vulnerable and gutting line in the song. just perfect.

[@roiel7511]

Dude, fantastic work!

[@Middle8]

Thanks!

[@paulmccharmley8570]

the editing is CRAZYYY man

[@annidotzenrod358]

i love bon iver

[@GoldenKingedit]

so much more respect for this album thank you!

[@Spartan300001]

Great research. Fascinating engineering on the Prismatic effect, and especially the Messina. It's something that I can imagine would be a protected, patented secret a while, but I hope the world gets that widely available somehow in the near future, because that could truly give a new voice to young artists and internet hopefuls with big sounds and no means.

[@benvandewetering1502]

Bon Iver was actually the reason I discovered Kanye and Chance who are now by far my favourite HipHop artists. I have just seen Bon Iver live for the first time and it is even better live! They are amazing!

[@alex.papworth]

Fascinating video! I hope you've got a video on Sufjan Stevens somewhere in the roadmap :)

[@calebbilti538]

Francis is probably one of the most underrated artists of our time for working with Kanye, Justin V., Benny Blanco, Ed Sheeran, Cahsmere Cat, etc

[@chuck3575]

Loved this. Great work please keep it up. Should have been longer!

[@Middle8]

Thanks!

[@luke4502]

This is awesome. Never made the connection between 808s and 22, a Million, but I can totally see it now. I love this

[@IMMASICKKKFUCK]

3:47 this is what we call tťbeel in my country, its when someone did something not that amazing but you love that someone so much you make what he did sounds phenomenally, he literally just made the mic play 2 sounds the original sound and a lower more distorted octave, you can literally do that with gross beat witch is a stock plugin in fl studio, if you know anything about music producing.

[@TimHatzidakis]

this video is probably one of the best youtube videos i have ever seen! NO JOKE!

[@jackishere9262]

Amazing video. I knew the two had worked together, but this video was perfectly in depth. Found out a bunch of new stuff I didn't know before, so thank you. Keep up the good work.

[@Middle8]

Thanks