Bonelab is really, REALLY Good**

[@EricForPresident]

Filmed on my iphone today lul Follow - > twitter.com/EricPresidentVR

[@brewhog]

Bonelab needs to license their engine to other game developers. This engine has serious potential industry wide

[@noahkirkpatrick8912]

This would be like what Microsoft Windows did for software

[@redriverarmy2877]

Who?

[@TropicalCyc]

@@redriverarmy2877 whomong us

[@brewhog]

@@redriverarmy2877 I should have said Stress Level Zero (The developer) rather than Bonelab (the product). However, I hope the point is still understood. If SLZ releases the Marrow engine as a licensable product, I think the industry would benefit significantly.

[@GamingRoadkill]

And they could make a LOT of money from other companies. But they shouldn’t do it yet, right now they should focus on their own games and showing off exactly what the engine is capable of. Which is exactly what they’re doing. Once other companies see the impact this game and the physics engine has on VR, they’ll be willing to pay 10 times more than they would now

[@sixspartan114]

I'm willing to get motion sickness if I am finally able to have an experience like Boneworks bc I initially got VR to play Boneworks and was disappointed to not see it, but with Bonelab I can get that experience.

[@WoodysAR]

You were disappointed not to get... Motion sickness? Surely you mean something else... When you say Boneworks did not have 'It', to what are you referring? Maybe it's that there was no Mobile version? (and yeah if so I agree)...

[@WintechX]

@@WoodysAR He probably got the quest 2 wanting to play boneworks and when he found out boneworks wasnt on the quest 2 he was dissapointed. And now that bonelab is gonna be on the quest 2, he is excited

[@RabidDisposition]

SLZ says any graphics card that could run boneworks will run bonelab, but I dont know if I trust that. My PC barely meets the minimum specs, so I'll probably end up playing this on quest.

[@UnknownSquid]

The thing with motion sickness, is that ultimately it's something you inherently train a resistance to the more you test yourself. It's wise to take it steady and gradually up your level, but it is something I'm confident anyone can overcome and stop experiencing. The solution to beating motion sickness in VR gaming isn't a permanently bubble wrapped and self constrained experience, but providing one that's compelling enough to make users WANT to go back in DESPITE any motion sickness they might encounter. For a little anecdote of what I'm talking about, I have 5000+ hours in VR-Chat. Over the past four years, I have witnessed literally dozens of people upgrade from playing it flat, to getting VR. It's basically part of the culture in VR-Chat, like a coming of age celebration. Roughly a third of those people expressed experiencing motion sickness during their first days of VR. But of all those dozens of people, do you know how many stopped and went back to flat? How many refunded their headsets? Or how many opted to use the "holo-port" motion rather than conventional smooth movement? Zero. I've never known a _single_ person, who hasn't overcome their motion sickness. Most get over it fully in the first week or two, and never speak of it again. And this is talking about a loose and chaotic platform where you can run around at high speeds, bump up and down on awkward coliders in poorly designed worlds, jump 20 foot in the air, drive cars, fly jet packs, get picked up of thrown around by your friends. VRC broke all of the rules on VR comfort, and despite that it's the most populated and most active game in VR. Same goes for other titles like Blade & Sorcery, or Pavlov and all it's VR-FPS rivals. Those titles don't even let you have a teleport option, and players flock to them. Top of the charts for months on both PCVR and Quest. A melee early access and a janky low budget FPS. Industry has got to overcome it's fear of motion sickness if it wants to survive.

[@DRKSTRN]

I believe that casting the widest net slows down innovation. Consumers by default are pleasure seeking and avoid discomfort. But this also ignore new generations being brought up native in this environment. Those natives will set the standards.

[@thelelanatorlol3978]

The difference between flatscreen and VR is that discomfort is *part* of the experience for VR. It's not something to shy away from, it's something that really helps fill in the experience. Everything from pain when being hit in a VR world to physical exhaustion from running around only serves to improve the experience.

[@paulbellino5330]

I have been into VR from day one. What people need to understand is if my 60 year old brain and eyes can adapt, so can anyone. The kids growing up with it today will for sure adapt even better. Right now the most important thing we can do is get the tech in as many kids hands as we can get. Thats the only reason I am so happy about PSVR 2. Our numbers will grow and pretty soon we will not even have to talk about VR sickness. This game is pushing it, I agree but the payoffs will be worth it.

[@namegoeshere197]

3000 hours in. i still get motion sick xD

[@JubulusPrime]

@@namegoeshere197 I never got motion sick once in vr and I got it late 2021, I wonder it is a genetics thing

[@anakinlowground5515]

@@JubulusPrime Yeah, same here. I've been in the VR space for two years now, and I've never gotten motion sick once.

[@paulbellino5330]

Well when I got my Oculus CV1 I did a rollercoaster the first day. I took it off and could not put it on for a week. Now I can do ANYTHING

[@commandbaker3334]

I agree but you shouldn't have kids that are like 10 years old in VR cuz their brains haven't developed enough. No one likes playing a game where there's a bunch of screaming children

[@Andrewawilson]

I'm a lifelong Half-Life fanboy. I bought a VR headset and attended a video game art college course BECAUSE of the Half-Life: Alyx announcement. Yet, I'm equally hyped for Bonelab. I played through most of Boneworks shortly after finishing Alyx, but because I was still in the HLA "honeymoon" phase, I didn't realize at the time how awesome Boneworks was on its own merits. Alyx was simply Half-Life in VR, whereas Boneworks was VR's Half-Life, if that makes any sense. With Bonelab being available to non-PCVR players, and if the suggestion that Boneworks can be modded into Bonelab is true, I hope the larger gaming community will come to see that.

[@IrocZIV]

I was similarly excited about a game back in the day, 'Trespasser'. It focused on the world and physics. It was amazing, but a bit ahead of its time. Boneworks, was very similar in feel, and really felt evolutionary from it, but with the controls that could make it work. Being able to put a Boneworks game onto the Quest is huge. Some of my friends saw VR, but just didn't get why you would bother, when lots of games play 'fine' on flat screen. Boneworks/lab really shows what using the VR system to its fullest potential looks like.

[@cow4756]

Got a chuckle at the beginning of the video "living out your Violent fantasies."

[@bradleysmoke1556]

So hyped for Bonelab, I'm watching this video twice!

[@0079Matthew]

The avatar system with it's statistics based on muscle, fat, height and weight etc, is amazing. Reminds me of Ready Player One where it is said that they do exactly the same thing. This game will arguably, be one of only a few "full games" content-wise on the Q2. Or really all of VR. Vast majority are basically tech demos. But more than that, it will be expanded by the community due to heavy modding support, which is amazing for longevity and replayability. The only thing that would make it better, would be if they add multiplayer, so we have a real Gmod for VR. They did it on Boneworks via mods, so I don't see why not here. I look forward to this game so much!

[@anakinlowground5515]

I'm saying it here and now. This game is going to be revolutionary for VR. It is innovating in many areas, and it will cause a revolution for the entire VR industry.

[@krammis76]

@@anakinlowground5515 where is it innovating?

[@TeaGamingPanda]

I’m glad some companies do think about the comfortability and trying to make it comfortable and fun enough for new and older VR users, which in turn helps new users get used to VR so they can improve themselves to play much more intense games. Like Bonelab. Also it’s the first game that I’ve ever seen in Oculus that has an intense comfortability (I think). Cant wait! All works out at the end. Sometimes we gotta push everything and expand the boundaries

[@zaccampa4055]

A great physics style game with parkour is called Sport Mode on the Quest. I’ve literally been training in that game for Bonelab lol I haven’t played VR in awhile so I’m trying to get my legs back.

[@krammis76]

Its a pity it looks like it's been abandoned though on app lab. That's the biggest probably about applab. I've seen so many very interesting apps released that never get updates.

[@zaccampa4055]

@@krammis76 yeah it’s been awhile since it’s been updated… oh well! We get Bonelab tomorrow lol

[@BigTea]

My VR hype is back

[@ArtfulRascal8]

CANNOT WAIT. Its like Christmas for adults.

[@zunilbo5445]

We got Half-life Alyx, now we get Garry's VR Mod.

[@kazoot.31]

I would like to talk about something you said. This game will quite literally change vr forever.

[@MasterX14]

Nice to see you man!

[@lochlansmith7096]

Always love the content, Eric

[@MethosOhio]

Even knowing I'm probably going to be one of those that will probably have a bad time with this, I'm glad it exists. I ignored the warnings about Boneworks being for VR veterans only and got it. And of course I couldn't play it without being very ill. But I'm glad someone is pushing the envelope. That's totally ok as long as they continue to give ample warning about what you're buying.

[@joaquinvelasquez6252]

Super excited, thanks for keeping my feet on the ground.

[@PremortalVR]

One thing I like about bonelab is that it's super optimized for mobile devices

[@paulbellino5330]

Just finished Bone Lab It is a masterpiece and no I did not get sick once

[@vertigev]

What's the game part though? I agree that it looks more like a tech demo (which is still cool!)

[@a_british_lass_stream_archives]

gmod isn't a tech demo, and if we ignore that the game has a CAMPAIGN , it'd still be m0re like gmod

[@zennie846]

Bonelab has a story tac trial mods parkour mode go kart mode and experimental sandbox and alot more

[@eirual4rs]

​@@zennie846 still don't see the game part. That's all tech demo

[@thelelanatorlol3978]

Boneworks was the tech demo to show off what's possible. Bonelab will certainly do this with certain features but in general it's a fully fleshed out game.

[@thelelanatorlol3978]

@@eirual4rs No, that's not all tech demo. If you think tech features are tech demos then everything from the release of pong onwards has been nothing but tech demos to show off gameplay.

[@branzeegaming6458]

Here's an idea for anyone that whinges about motion sickness, train your body and mind to get better at dealing with it. When I first jumped into VR I was a mess, as soon as I felt warm/sweaty/chills/sick I stopped immediately and laid down with some water, the next day I jumped back in and went a little longer in VR..... now I can play pretty much anything.

[@Hypnobong]

Yeah it does take time- also properly setting your ipd, adjusting where the headset sits, etc; but more than anything, your totally right, it’s a skill for some that has to be learned. Must learn… not to barf… 🤢

[@RabidDisposition]

I never had a problem with motion sickness. When I first started I'd get weak knees standing next to ledges and stuff, but I never got sick. I ride a lot of rollercoasters so I was probably already trained against the motion sickness.

[@thorb2663]

SDK for Unity Mod... I'm in.

[@RabidDisposition]

I needed this this morning lmao a grown ass complaining about VR "motion sickness" lmao

[@tomcat3900]

They should have called this game JankLab

[@drewpatterson8009]

Honestly... I don't see why it's SUCH a big deal. Boneworks was fun! I think people are overhyping Bonelab though.... Might be dangerous to do so.

[@WhiteRaven___]

Its not possible to over hype this game at this point honestly. All Stress level zero had to do was bring boneworks to Quest and they did. People didn't even think that was remotely possible and not only is bonelab gonna be quests port of Boneworks, its going to be more polished and have more stuff to do than Boneworks did. They already knocked it out of the park

[@Korvaxis]

@@WhiteRaven___ I agree the simple idea of having boneworks on quest 2 is already a big deal but since they are saying its more refined, etc even if it just turns out to be boneworks that would still be enough for a lot of people.

[@DarkGaming-2734]

So fantastic!

[@JynxedKoma]

They need to impliment Workshop into Bonelab to avoid having to use a third party website and lots of unnecessary manual folder dragging and dropping.

[@Underqualified_Gunman]

From what i understand youll be able to sync up with repos of your choosing meaning that all workshop xontent will be community hosted but will be able to be viewed and installed in game at least somewhat.

[@gr1f1th]

I want to enjoy the most out of BoneLab... So I wish there was info on how the Meta side of modding will work. I'm glad there is cross-buy in case there is some laborious process to convert mods to the quest... but if 90% of mods are going to be on Steam I'm gonna be kind of mad... but I also would rather be wireless as this game lends itself to lots of movement.

[@zennie846]

No your gonna get all mods there's gonna be a section in game that u go into for mods nothing outside of your quest no need for a PC just fully standalone and there

[@WhiteRaven___]

Developers are going the "cross play mods" route now. Contractors might be the best example right now but the Quest version will 100% have mods and plenty of them. Probably not at launch but it will get support

[@Adam-mo2qw]

so you haven't played it then?

[@toptier2800]

I was interested in VR till i found that most users are running around VR with anime avatars.

[@Potato-mahn]

yo bro the 2nd half isn't pcvr

[@SoreJunky3006]

This will be a long 2 days

[@namegoeshere197]

I cant wait for Bonelab. Im so hyped for it. That said Bonelab might be the most hype game in the vr community that I agree on. Half life Alyx was HUGE even outside the vr community. I even had family members talking about Half life Alyx (they usually never talk about gaming) None of my none vr gaming friends know what Bonelab is :(

[@kevinbuchanan67]

"hyped"

[@namegoeshere197]

@@kevinbuchanan67 ty

[@quintesse]

Well tbh my own experience with Boneworks was pretty "meh" while Alex was just awesome. Alex is also the only game my wife finished in a days long marathon session while she normally only uses VR sporadically and almost never for long stretches of time (the only other VR game she likes to spend a lot of time in is Serious Sam, strangely enough). I wouldn't even suggest she try Boneworks, there just isn't anything truly interesting there for a non-VR enthousiast IMO.

[@eirual4rs]

​@@quintesse couldn't agree more. Alyx was the most fun I've had in vr. Bone works was super boring. Especially once the novelty of the engine wore off

[@phoenixgauntlet5237]

Sorry to burst your bubble. Multiplayer hasn't been confirmed, at least to my knowledge - all though it'll be very likely that it will come via mods.

[@themusketeer9458]

What's wrong in most games when looking down is the character moves a bit forward, making you look into the chest, rather than the feet. If you ask me this would be an easy fix no? The developer just needa to be aware of this fact. It is really quite annoying if you ask me.

[@thelelanatorlol3978]

Well in bonelab it looks like that is fixed. Won't stop characters with big chests (male or female) from having those chests block the view of your feet.

[@HELLISHHANDZ]

This hype train has no brakes

[@billothekid]

Let's stop being silly. Bonelab is not the "Most hyped VR game of all time". It looks great, don't get me wrong, and it's very hyped amongst VR enthusiasts. But it's not hyped outside of that VR bubble like Half Life: Alyx, which is a storied franchise on it's own, and made people buy VR headsets just for that game. I can't see how this is more hyped, when most people probably haven't even heard of it. I'm not a HL: Alyx fanboy btw, and I'm definitely still excited for Bonelab.

[@thelelanatorlol3978]

Bonelab is absolutely the most hyped VR game of all time. Unlike boneworks, it's available on quest 2 which opens it up to like 90% of the market. A market of which lots of people have been looking for a boneworks experience. Aside from that, iI don't care if HL:A made some people buy VR headsets, that's not an example of hype levels, that's reputation preceding a product. In the case of HL:A, it's a what used to be fully flatscreen series coming to VR which naturally means fans have to buy a VR headset to play it. Bonelab had boneworks preceding itself and in this case it's a VR game having itself backed on the reputation of another VR game which will cause a massive explosion of VR headset owners buying the game. Also, most people not having heard of bonelab? Bro the game is well known within the wider VR community with only people living under rocks not having heard of it.

[@billothekid]

Yes, people who aren't VR enthusiasts are more than likely to have heard of HL: Alyx over Bonelab. That's my point. Perhaps we're thinking of the term "most hyped" in two different ways. I'm going off the idea that it means MORE people are hyped/excited for something, as opposed to the exact hype/anticipation levels. In that case, yes, Bonelab is very anticipated amongst VR enthusiasts. Of all time though? Still don't agree, but it's really mostly subjective at this point. I don't mean to shit on something you're excited about btw. Like I said I'm excited too, I just didn't agree with the "of all time" bit. On that note, just have fun on Thursday, and don't care about the opinions of some random person in the KZbin comments. Lol

[@PutlerHuyIo]

@@billothekid you're right that nobody among normies heard of Bonelab or Boneworks. It will not be the next Beat Saber or Half Life Alyx which even people who never tried VR know about

[@whoogh]

@@billothekid a certain Bonelab video just hit top 15 on trending for all of youtube. you're the one in the bubble.

[@billothekid]

@@whoogh Pretty sure that was like a week ago dude. Lol

[@monakharouf908]

still 5 more hours

[@lavahawk]

Oh sweet a bonelabs video! Excited to see content as always!

[@krammis76]

What even is this game? I've seen the trailer, but just dont' understand what kind of game this is. Is it a full first person shooter with a full story? Or is is just a glorified tech demo/sandbox? Looks alot like a game called sport mode that is on applab. Which unfortunately doesn't get updated anymore. Like most games on applab.

[@eirual4rs]

If it is anything like its predecessor bone works it will be a lot more about the physics engine and intractability of the world than am actual fun engaging game. Bone works had a bit of a story but I honestly got bored not very far in and gave up on it

[@krammis76]

@@eirual4rs yeah fair enough. Sounds like an interactive tech demo. Lol. I'm definitely keen to see what people say about it though. I don't mind stuff where you can download levels people have made so providing the modding is good I might pick it up. It's just really hard to understand the excitement for this.

[@Korvaxis]

Integrated modding isn’t a common thing and since Bonelabs is being made by SLZ who have a good reputation the hype is sort of earned. SLZ is trying to create a physics game that incorporates avatar changing. The avatars are supposedly supposed to have stats meaning what was once cosmetic now has meaning. It is a very “weird” game in terms of categorization but it’s worth a try for all the content it offers.

[@Korvaxis]

But if you’re looking for a shooter then you might as well play something else. SLZ is trying to pioneer VR by using systems no other games really implement too well. It’s like a new never heard of flavor in terms of gameplay etc. If you’ve played Boneworks or are just looking for something interesting and new Bonelabs is the way to go.

[@krammis76]

@@Korvaxis so are you saying it's basically an action game? I mean the changing avatar mechanic sounds cool but that seems to be all that's interesting. Don't get me wrong I'm keen to see what the hype is all about.

[@copingflower1909]

I've played through Bonelab finally and it is both good and bad while I understand some of the aspects of the game were blaiten to get the goopy goblins in our brains to think on paper it sounds pretty alright but in action it's serviceable in parts, some good some bad, but besides the very fuckin vague story mode the game overall has a lot to do and mess around with, some but not limited to mods, arena, time trials, etc all of that and more and not to mention these developers for this game are anything but predictable and from what they have said they got more in store for the next 5 years of support this game will have so I'd hopefully expect some DLC in the next year or 2

[@HiddenExp]

Gameplay > Inclusion *about motion sickness thing

[@ix-DaRc]

I fell for the Boneworks over hype back in the day. Not falling for the same mistake again. I was hoping this one would have been a game.

[@maninblack3410]

Not trying to invalidate how you felt about boneworks, but how exactly did you fall for it? I’m assuming you consider it a tech demo since you said you were hoping this one would be a game, does that mean you didn’t play the story of the first one? Or only played like the first level?

[@ix-DaRc]

@@maninblack3410 I had my concerns about Boneworks before it’s release as it was clearly just a tech demo. The hype for it was through the roof at the time, so I bit the bullet and bought it, granted I didn’t play much of it at all. The physics were excellent, I loved how things felt like they actually had weight to them, but once you had messed around in the sandbox, there was nothing else do to. I waited for years for other VR developers to implement those physics, but they never came. The closest we got was Saints & Sinners. Fast forward to October 2022, and we have Bonelab, hype again is through the roof, which just looks like it’s going to be the Quest version on Boneworks. I haven’t seen anything yet to show that this one will be a game this time. I hope I am wrong, but as of now, I just cannot get excited for another “tech demo”. One more day to go, we’ll find out real soon. Here’s hoping 🤞

[@maninblack3410]

@@ix-DaRc see that’s my problem with people that consider the first game just a tech demo. If you had played through the story, or even just understood that there was more to the game than the sandbox, I could understand complaints, heck I have a ton of complaints about the game. If you loved the physics, I guarantee you’d love the entire game that you somehow missed lol. You should give it another chance. You’ll probably still have some valid complaints, cuz it is a very ambitious indie game, but I’m absolutely confident in saying you won’t consider it just a tech demo after actually beating it. It *is* a tech demo to some degree, and they (poorly imo) seemed to have marketed it like a tech demo I guess (since that’s what everyone thought at first glance) but the level design and mechanics introduced throughout the game prove they’re competent game designers and not just tech peddlers. Is it perfect? No, but it *is* a game.

[@ix-DaRc]

@@maninblack3410 ok you’ve sold me on giving it another go. I actually reinstalled it yesterday, so I will put some proper time into it tonight. I do agree with you about the level design though, it’s excellent. If it wasn’t too intense, then it would be a great showcase for people trying out VR for the first time, however, I think it might be a little bit too much for VR virgins.

[@maninblack3410]

@@ix-DaRc 😮 lol good on you for being open minded, I’m glad you’re willing to give it another shot. You are definitely right though. I like how vr intensive it can be, but it’s not an inherently “good” thing. I think it’s a very valid criticism to say the game doesn’t do enough to help vr sensitive users, but at the same time it’s a relatively small budgeted indie game so I understand them not wanting to spend too many resources on it. There are still a lot of issues imo, and it does feel like a tech demo for sure in a lot of ways, but I think it’s still worth playing all the way through and judging as a game.

[@eirual4rs]

Bone works was great and all but I found it boring. Never finished it. I hope bone lab can find a way to have a decent story

[@Korvaxis]

Boneworks isn’t really an exciting game it’s an exciting concept with good execution, that’s enough for some people and I agree with them but I admit that your statement is true, they should be a bit more specific about what kind of player would like it.

[@TheWavys]

everyone keeps saying this game is for "enthusiasts" but being one myself this game just falls short in everything except for the physics..........the game itself is boring. no real story or emotional pull.....no multiplayer....just test dumby enemies to play with for a bit until you get bored

[@zennie846]

I think that full body ik is necessary for VR experience and I don't think that "it's to extreme it will cause motion sickness" no I don't think that should matter to anyone dumming down VR games making it more comfortable WILL RUIN VR making games colchicine and comfortable will ruin VR innovation is necessary it's like what half life 2 did for desktop games we NEED games like bonelabs we NEED games that take it to the next level and really do something other than being a glorified mobile game

[@b0neless437]

Fr, who could think this is a bad thing at all? Like if you get motion sick and think this game would be too much for you, just don't play it 🤔

[@klyok]

I hope they'll manage to borrow some lessons from HL:Alyx and make level design not so boring as it was in Boneworks. It felt like a pancake FPS shooter. Such a waste of potential! =\

[@GiffysChannel]

What's wrong with it being a tech demo? Doesn't Boneworks have in-game jokes about being a tech demo? Hell, Portal started as a tech demo lol.

[@maninblack3410]

Over the past week I’ve seen some strange “console wars” style arguments over this and boneworks vs “real” vr games like alyx. Imo people get dug into their camps and they either don’t care or don’t know about the quality of the “other team’s” game and they just trash on it because their side *has* to win. It’s goofy

[@PopGoesTheWorld2023]

I just don't get why teleportation is not even an option. Half Life: Alyx did it right.

[@jbr600]

Looks like you need to change your avatar for every movement like crawling or jumping, it could be more gimicy or tedious than it should be😬

[@zennie846]

Jumping or crawling? U can do that with any avatar some may be smaller to get into a small vent but to solve puzzles I don't think it will be annoying

[@thelelanatorlol3978]

You likely won't need to change your avatar at all if you want to. Smart movement and tool usage can allow you to do unimaginable things even in boneworks let alone bonelab.

[@KapFindr]

06:48 no need to thank me 🌝

[@accel8378]

Half Life alyx is good but boneworks is leagues better in gameplay.

[@WoodysAR]

_LOOKS_ like a tech demo? One is shooting glowing none differentiated bipeds, no rhyme or reason. It's great but... There seems to be no point...??? I guess I want immersion for my mind and soul not just my brain and body..? STORY and INTENT is key for me... It is ok. I just built my first Quest 2 game in Unreal Engine (having worked in Unreal for 6 years) I have most of the same mechanics as this game in PC, I will try to make what I want to play, because I think others will want the same. Only a certain category of... Player (and Human) is satisfied with something so simple, as to not even have a (real...) Story At the other extreme is Alyx, which made story TOO important and forgot Player freedom and expression, variation of outcome.. I felt like I was following a recipe or doing a paint-by-numbers in Alyx. I never even got into the city (or figured out how to unlock the first big gate-RoboFoot-thing!). It is ok. I just figured out how to have a working flashlight in Unreal 4.27 Quest 2 build.... Evil laugh¡!¡! ANYBODY WITH A GOOD GAME IDEA? I will make it... Give you credit, share profit equitably, Eric? ... I can make anything at this point...

[@EricForPresident]

Go make a VR TCG like MTG/Hearthstone/etc with in app purchases and a long term strategy and you will make $$$$$$$$$$

[@CalmingWinds]

Don't see why the hype. It was a tech demo that I got bored with after 2 hours. I get what they tried to do with realistic physics and admire it, but didn't care for it in game. When I play a shooter I don't want to worry about if my imaginary avatar can pickup a weapon or not. This floppy stuff in your hands just wouldn't make a good FPS. I want to run and gun in a smooth environment. Maybe once the controllers get force feedback this would feel better.

[@chrisdiegobaines1250]

UNderstandable. but do realize, you're not looking to play the type of game boneworks was. You are looking for games like pavlov and contractors.

[@nuts2733]

yeah you’re asking for eggs from a flower my guy. idk what you expected

[@quintesse]

For me it was the same, hardly got past the tutorial section. But not because of the interactions... it just didn't "click" for me as a game. I probably bought the game more because I think those guys are awesome (watched a LOT of their videos) and hoped the game would be fun (even though the previews seemed to focus way too much on physics instead of gameplay).

[@Korvaxis]

If you’re looking for traditional shooters or everyday VR games Boneworks isn’t your cup of tea. It’s about physics puzzle solving with a side of combat from time to time.

[@thelelanatorlol3978]

Yes, boneworks was a tech demo and it's still one of the best examples of a VR game to date. If you're looking for a less interesting flatscreen-like experience, there are plenty of fps VR shooters you can play.

[@digitalamok3453]

Boneworks is better then Half life Alyx

[@JynxedKoma]

*Than

[@michelverheijen6643]

Why?

[@Korvaxis]

That’s like comparing soda to milk they’re two different things that are good in their own ways.

[@thelelanatorlol3978]

@@Korvaxis No, boneworks is just a better game. It's not comparing soda to milk, it's comparing 2 VR products both of which you play to enjoy. They can be directly compared through this enjoyment.

[@thelelanatorlol3978]

boneworks does have specific worse qualities like the story which is certainly a game breaker for some people, but not most and the specific worse qualities do not translate to a generally worse game.

[@FanTaz1986]

This game will flop hard , 40 eu from unknown game , it is not like RE4 or similar , not only this , but looks like is one of " mods" games like contractors or b&s nomads , but games like this cost 20 eu not 40 , i think pcvr users will buy it and a lot mainly because of bone works but for average quest 2 users for noname game for 40 eu , hard sell

[@nemesis4081]

Calling a stress levels zero games a noname or a unknown game is just not knowing anything about the vr landscape, yes it is the first time one of their game is getting a quest release but they definitely have made a name for themselves in the xr industry as other vr developement studio did too like Ready at dawn studio ( lone echo,lone echo2, echovr), Resolution Games( demeo, blaton) or more recently vertical robots( red matter and red matter2) and a lot of quest user were waiting for one of their game to release on quest

[@michaelsondag6187]

ROFL

[@FanTaz1986]

@@nemesis4081 i manage local vr, and of 100+ quest users i talked, no one even hear about this game or boneworks , i mean housewives, old 40+ dudes, and kids , sooo yea, "well know" is depend on you echo chamber , and given how boneworks did have about 500-700 player base on steam did show not many peoples play this game

[@zennie846]

Slz built VR to the stance it is today boneworks for PC was one of the top selling games on steam not just for VR calling one of the best VR game developers a no name company is pure blasphemy bonelab will have a story tac trial multiple sandbox maps full mods support on quest without a pc parkour mode go kart mode puzzle mode, mods include avatars levels items vehicles NOT TO MENTION THIS WAS THE 1 MOST WISHLISTED VR GAME ON QUEST

[@zennie846]

@@FanTaz1986 if your asking ppl on vrchat..damn ofc u haven't talked to anyone who knows about the game everyone on vrchat only plays vrchat cause there either young and don't have money or don't know what to buy this games was again the most wishlisted quest 2 games to date