Book Talk: Why White Evangelicals Support Trump

[@sylviabrown7431]

Proverbs 29:12 (KJV) - "If a ruler pays attention to lies, All his servants become wicked."

[@Captain_Of_A_Starship]

Is there any "ruler" in the last 40 years who that doesn't apply to? And american citizens aren't servants to a public servant are they? But there is nothing wrong with what you say.

[@harryseaword]

@@Captain_Of_A_Starship Trump does nothing but lie. He is pure evil.

[@Captain_Of_A_Starship]

@@harryseaword Whatever he is, it doesn't represent the whole thing considering there is a beginning in a path as well as a middle and ending. Let's hope the rise of extreme sides unwilling to relent is NOT the ending.

[@incomedaily2350]

Very good point...

[@harryseaword]

Christian Bible preaches no adultery. That is a huge NO NO. In the 10 commandments no no. Help the poor. Help your neighbor. Our neighboring country is Mexico

[@ronaldlujan6452]

Evangelicals need to start paying taxes if they are going to get involved with politics.

[@alexandrawhitelock6195]

Individuals do. It's churches that have been granted tax relief

[@lisamatrangelo422]

really . so they don't have jobs ? where the government takes a third to half of there pay ? or are you just talking out your ass.

[@ThatClassic70sGirl]

Don't forget the Reverend Jesse Jackson. He did a lot of stumping for leftist Dem candidates in his heyday.

[@anitabrown3286]

They pay their politicians to stay off the tax radar!

[@mbburry4759]

@@alexandrawhitelock6195 not really, because the person cann write off their donations made to a church

[@DEALMAKINGMAN]

I'm glad to see this issue come to light. I was getting myself kicked out of good Christian company for raising these issues almost a decade ago.

[@normagoff6115]

Is their moriality with the radical left. Should babies continue to be murdered.

[@StandUp777]

@@normagoff6115 Roe v Wade was passed with a majority REPUBLICAN vote in 1973. The only one to vote against it was a Democrat. Republicans have controlled the senate for years which, with majority REPUBLICAN votes, struck down overturning Roe v Wade. So the question is, given the undeniable and easily proven Republican history in the birth and failure to overturn Roe v Wade ( including on Trump's watch) how can one possibly blame Dems? Bias without proof is just that: Bias.

[@peterhenriques6404]

@@normagoff6115 Stop using prolife as a box to tick. That does not make you a Christian. Why dont you white evangelicals try thinking beyond the titles and have some empathy for those who use abortion. Try talking to these people rather than just demonising them and sit on your self righteous horse..

[@peterhenriques6404]

@@StandUp777 Yes, Confirmation Bias

[@tomrhodes1629]

I can tell you precisely why "evangelicals" and other orthodox Christians make the mistake of supporting Donald Trump, who is literally an anti-Christ. And I'll preface this information with the fact that I am a God-ordained teacher and prophet. I don't expect or even want you to believe that, as you don't have good reason to do so. And blind faith is a dead end. But see if this doesn't make good sense to you: Orthodox Christianity teaches and preaches a false "gospel" of JUDGMENT that says you must accept Jesus Christ to be the ONLY Son of God, who died for your sins, or you will be judged and condemned to hell by the God who "is love." This irrational "gospel" is NOT the "good news" of Jesus Christ or anyone else. For it is actually quite BAD news were it to be true, which it is not. As he stated in the New Testament, the "good news" (Old English: "gospel") of "Jesus Christ" (Yeshua One with Christ) is the fact that "The Kingdom of God is within you." "Is it not written in your law 'I said ye are gods'?" Here Jesus quotes a psalm that continues on to say: "and all of you are children (or "sons") of the most High." ALL OF YOU, WITHOUT EXCEPTION, REGARDLESS OF YOUR BELIEFS OR ACTIONS. Yeshua One with Christ simply came to remind we-who-have-forgotten WHO WE ARE! "I know where I came from and where I am going; you do not." Furthermore, Yeshua's good news is the fact that judgment is NOT a characteristic of God. "The Father judges no man." "I judge no man." "I came not to judge but to save." And the only judgment and condemnation is man-made. "This is the condemnation, that light has come into the world but men love darkness rather than light." MEN LOVE LIES. THIS IS THE ONLY JUDGMENT AND CONDEMNATION. So, the GOOD NEWS of "Jesus Christ" consists of the facts that: 1) you are all God's sons, though you have forgotten who you are, and 2) judgment is not a characteristic of God, but is an error of man. But Orthodox Christians are judgmental, therefore they are able to support a judgmental anti-Christ named Donald Trump, BECAUSE THEIR FALSE "GOSPEL" IS A BAD NEWS MESSAGE OF JUDGMENT AND DAMNATION. And they have no problem being HYPOCRITES, violating every piece of advice given in the New Testament, because of this. If you want all of the details, including the very Meaning of Life, give me a "click." I am the prophesied return of Elijah. And I don't receive KZbin comments notifications, because I am interested in corresponding ONLY with true seekers, who will discover that I am very easy to find. AMEN.

[@gdyl091358]

Because they too are about the Money god and not the God of 5he Holy Bible.

[@dalightmaiso1553]

Heb12:16 Watch out for immoral and ungodly people like Esau, who sold his future blessing for only one meal.

[@Omega1st]

Esau is a fictitious character in a Bible Story.

[@dalightmaiso1553]

@@Omega1st read genesis 36:36 onwards

[@dalightmaiso1553]

@@Omega1st dude you don't know the love you are missing

[@Omega1st]

@@dalightmaiso1553 I love myself some relatives and friends. I don't need imaginary love from a Deity that does not exist. Stories in a book is not reality.

[@susanray8811]

But Jacob was the thief and the liar, not Esau.

[@caridadgarcia6585]

I REALLY BELIEVE THEY FORGOT THE BIBLE SAYS YOU CAN'T SERVED TWO LORDS AT ONCE. THE LORD IS MY PASTOR AND THE BIBLE'S MY CHURCH. I SAID GOODBYE TO EVANGELICAL 2016 THEY TRY TO FORCE ME TO VOTE FOR TRUMP I THANKS THE LORD HE SHOW ME THE TRUTH AMEN

[@srourfamily]

Love your neighbors and Matthew 25 says it all be careful lend a hand Many need food not wounds

[@patriciabrassington8294]

The only one

[@nurserobin]

My church was my life since I was 3 yrs old. It’s where all my social life occurred. My husband became a Christian after I met him by taking him to my church. He loved it from the moment he walked in. It’s a story of meeting on the internet. Marrying 3 months later. We just celebrated our 15 yr of marriage. In pre election of 2016 politics come into the church. You would over hear someone calling Obama curse words. I was always under the impression politics stayed out of church. My 2016 we had been married 7 yrs. I didn’t know much about trump. I just new he was a rich guy and I saw 1 episode YES,(1) only of the Apprentice. I always pay attention to Republicans top because I want to know what there about just in case they win. I really knew very little about politics but my mom was a democrat and loved Hillary do she was always talking about Hillary. I voted for Hillary over Obama. By the time trump gave his first speech i knew he was bad bad news. My husband being a new Christian in 2006 went to the men’s Bible study for 8 yrs. now here he is seeing the church he joined and served 7 yrs now talking in ways that were not based on Jesus’s our words. My husband was hearing so much. When Hillary lost I went to my pastor to talk about how upset o was. I told him I don’t want to discuss politics or anyone views. I don’t want to know. I went on to say it’s hard going to church with ppl who put MAGA stuff everywhere, where those Red Hats.. Every time he did something bad I thought ok now the church will be done. Jesus said to welcome the stranger not take them away from their parents including a baby from her moms breast and locks them in cages basically indefinitely. Over 550 are completely lost. Trump kept no records where he sent the kids! He could of traffic them. After all that’s what his modeling agency was all about on the 90’s. When I began to sob I said trump will ruin our democracy. He wants to be a dictator. My pastor said “no many ppl here believe it’s Hillary that would be the dictator. My own pastor! My husband and I walked out after an advent dinner and never have been back. Not one person called to see why we haven’t come to church or if we’re ok. It’s been so hard watching Trump. He took a wrecking ball to America, and turned it completely into a melting pot of hate. I do not consider anyone who supports Trump a Christian. You can’t have heart that desires to serve the Holy Spirit if you can hate ppl who don’t look, love, or believe like you. Conservatives think they have the right to decide what is true and not true no matter what science or facts say. They can then actually carry assault weapons to intimidate ppl. Now we know they are ready to murder innocent ppl to have the president they want! If they really want to know the truth they could on their own spend time looking at what sides are doing. If you tell them Hillary hasn’t committed a crime so stop with the lock her up. They then list a long list of crimes she has done that have nothing to do with reality. I am trying to hold on to my faith but it’s hard when the ppl that call themselves Christian have become some of the most selfish, nasty, dangerous,liars I’ve ever come to know. You can’t take food from the sick,put barriers in the way so ppl don’t have health care (Jesus healed the sick) and be a true Christian. Jesus fed the poor aHe said love thy neighbor as thyself. They are pure shameful!

[@phyllisbeck3921]

99

[@sweetmaggie2693]

Oh ur upset about a killing, but u think it’s ok to kill millions of Christians! You people are SICK

[@cv3045]

True believers in Jesus Christ should not be offended by this discussion or Ms. Posner's book. We should applaud the fact that the truth is being told about those who are using our faith as a ploy for their personal self aggrandizing agenda which goes against the teachings of Christ.

[@dianakirby4303]

Narcissism is the only religion where the god and the worshiper are one, and the same . Evangelicals and Christians should consider their chosen one will always choose himself.... They continually avoid the question "what would Jesus do?".

[@sharonpreston8271]

This panel called it to a T.

[@Evelyn-pl3we]

So glad I came across this. I have been fairly Conservative my whole life, but the last 4 years have encouraged me to reflect on my beliefs (and party affiliation). My BIGGEST concern with watching this election debacle was that many people I know were/are engaging in idolatrous behaviors. I have heard people say that Trump is the embodiment of God.

[@lorebay2593]

Oh no, no fruit of GOD revealed in him, he made a deal to give them Jerusalem, thats all it was for him, a give you what you want if you give me your congregations. He acts like his father, accuser, liar, deceitful, divisive, vindictive, proud, you name it, it’s on full display the last five years, which is why, why? out of the whole crop of Republicans they settled with him. I thought morals and character meant volumes for leadership. But how can you lead where you don’t go.

[@hallucinatedovens8414]

Wow you heard one guy say that? That must mean all of them think that. You were never a conservative, lying clown

[@siegeheavenly3601]

This debacle is actually what made me abandon Protestantism for Catholicism and Orthodoxy after realizing Protestantism is really just a political party pretending to be a church let alone I ended up discovering all the reformers were excommunicated from the Catholic church for denying key dogmas of the Catholic church such as rejecting the sacraments and removing entire verses and books from their translation of the Bible to fit their political goals and refusing to recant. Modern Protestantism has hardly changed from this original context as Protestantism has always been this way.

[@anitabrown3286]

That God being the Devil!

[@mbburry4759]

@@siegeheavenly3601 sure because communion wafers really become the literal flesh of jesus

[@enriqueperez8780]

Mark 12:30-31'And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.' This is the first commandment. "And the second, like it, is this: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no other commandment greater than these."

[@Narrow-Pather]

Amen!

[@patreese4616]

I agree/Amen.

[@deacondavis5098]

AAAMEN

[@ouubet]

AMEN

[@marcelwilliams6973]

If you love your neighbor, you will fore warn him. The Christian is obligated to do this in love.

[@herojiro6999]

Jesus was kind compassionate poor. Who knows why anyone would vote for Trump, but Trump is nothing like Jesus

[@chelabuford7106]

They did a really great job explaining why👍

[@ZaKenzie]

This is so true. You guys are delving into the root of all this confusion with the evangelical error. Great job!

[@michaeld9682]

Evangelicals should support Trump. Trump supported the church like no other

[@mrroper607]

@@michaeld9682 Trump only supported evangelicals because he needed their votes and because it was part of the agreement he made with some of the white evangelicals leaders ploy to get him in office. John Hagee, Franklin Graham Jr, Paula White, Robert Jeffries, the late Kim Clement are just a few of the white evangelicals who've plotted out trump's rise to power to try and bring about Armageddon.

[@michaeld9682]

@@mrroper607 sorry you are so confused. Trump was like xerxes. A pompous man who the Lord used. Trump installed hundreds of pro life judge. Roe may even be corrected finally (see 10th amendment). Trump got us energy independent. Trump gave credit to God often. Biden spoke about Easter bunnies. Trump went after bad trade deals and even made Nato countries pay up. Trump moved Israeli embassy from sin city to Jerusalem. Trump did not get us into wars. Biden is. Biden has bigger chance of Armageddon

[@LadyLeda2]

@@michaeld9682 I just do not understand why Christians would support a man who does not believe in God, who cheats, who lies, who runs over people and hurts them. Just because he moved a building in Jerusalem? I think you all have been told lies about Trump. He is not a good man.

[@louisedost8476]

Separations between Church And State. 4.4 Million $$$$$$ for PPE. Shame on you Joel Osteen.!!!! 😷😷😷

[@willpowerstrengthandfitnes6773]

Evangelicals have compared Trump to King David. Now they compare him to King Cyrus. Despicable!

[@WEStern-sm3ot]

I compare him to a King Cobra!

[@marcelwilliams6973]

HOw can it be despicable. God uses even a pagan to carry out His will.

[@WEStern-sm3ot]

@@marcelwilliams6973 Your opinion.

[@jacquelineduplantier5563]

I compare Trump to Pharoah. I “believe” that judgement/destruction has come to America and the white evangelical church for the enslavement of Africans, genocide of Native Americans, Jim Crow, segregation, redlining, mass incarceration, the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan, the war on terror that created 35-50 million refugees in the Middle East, caging of children, and all the devastation the U.S. has created around the world. Hence, we now have 35-50 million unemployed people in the U.S., with a tsunami of foreclosures and evictions in the coming months and the coronavirus. This virus is just the beginning of the plagues that will dismantle the American empire. By the summer of 2021, the white evangelical church, which was built on white supremacy, will be exposed and dismantled.

[@wendellspivey3747]

@@marcelwilliams6973 Please, let's stop with the fairy tales.

[@enriqueperez8780]

1 John 10-11 He who loves his brother abides in the light, and there is no cause for stumbling in him. But he who hates his brother is in darkness and walks in darkness, and does not know where he is going, because the darkness has blinded his eyes.

[@IDeviseTV3]

Color of the ✝ (part 1) 🎥 kzbin.info/www/bejne/bWLXfKeBjNd-l5o Color of the ✝ (part 2) 🎥 kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYXYYn1vh9GNpqc Hebrews 10:24-25 And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds, not giving up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but encouraging one another-and all the more as you see the Day approaching. Hebrews 13:1-3 Keep on loving one another as brothers and sisters. Do not forget to show hospitality to strangers, for by so doing some people have shown hospitality to angels without knowing it. Continue to remember those in prison as if you were together with them in prison, and those who are mistreated as if you yourselves were suffering. James 1:27 Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

[@marcelwilliams6973]

It's unfortunate that several here wrongly link Trump to mega church leaders and the distasteful side of evangelicals. They blame him for many things he inherited. Yet they are blind to all he has achieved. They fail to honestly assess their own opinion. One can see how the main line media have formulated their thinking to believe Trump is a liar and a racist. They refuse to have an objective closer look. You like geese flocking together and expecting everyone else to follow you.

[@pwallacepugh]

@@marcelwilliams6973 I just look at his personal actions and morals. I see little evidence of the fruit of the spirit and much pride, envy and deceit. And no I'm not perfect and yes there are lots of others who are worse. But that's not the point.

[@susanray8811]

@@marcelwilliams6973 I guess your blind to the many megachurch owners and the televangelist that lay hands on him and pray in the WH on the regular? Good grief, Trump was a well-seasoned lier and was openly known as "Don-The-Con" in NY and NJ. Trump and his sons stole millions from their charity golf tournament for St. Judes Children's Cancer Hospital and Research Center. And that's only one of the many times he has stolen millions from ppl and families. He's also a Grifter that was known for bankrupting many of his contractors. His entire adult life has been one of abject theft from other ppl and companies. Do you really think Trump had any reason to change now that he sits at the top of the feeding trough?

[@marymosley1054]

Very interesting explanation for the religious fundamentalists’ support of Trump. As a lifelong Christian, I have had a hard time understanding the reasons for their support of someone who does not reflect the message Jesus taught. I will definitely read this book.

[@StandUp777]

You're not alone

[@daviddennison2523]

I need to read this book! And share it too so that a lot more people see the hypocrisy because if there's one thing I am thankful for these past 4 years is how he has helped to expose what they think is hidden.

[@marcelwilliams6973]

Mary, Trump does not need to reflect the message Jesus taught for him to be used by God. This is what many of you are not getting. Why did you all not hold Obama, or Bush, or Clinton etc. to this standard??? Come on now, get real. Admit it You all have an IRRATIONAL HATE, an OBSESSIVE ...

[@siegeheavenly3601]

I have a theory that Protestantism particularly the Evangelical branch of Protestantism is a political party pretending to be a church. Now whether or not the 2020 election was stolen, it doesn't change the fact that many Evangelicals idolize Trump as if he were the Messiah Christ Himself. Rather after the fiasco that was the year 2020, it seems obvious that Trump was only using the Christian name for political purposes and his actions do not share someone who actually believes what Christ and the Apostles taught as seen in his own pride. And out of all the imperfections, pride is the worst one to have in a political position and now we have a fake president who is even more prideful than Donald Trump.

[@Kiki-en9vm]

Trump is killing the faith i love and am not taking it,still a christian but not trump evangelical ,am voting for Biden this year,enough of the hypocrisy.

[@SciFlyGal]

I think it’s amazing how the last few minutes of this were able to eerily predict exactly what’s going on now that the election is over.

[@vtvita]

Posner's book, "Unholy", is excellent. I'm 2/3 through. I had completely misplaced the motives of the evangelicals until this book.

[@alexandrawhitelock6195]

On my reading list

[@philb4462]

I hope you enjoy that famous last sentence when you get to it!

[@susanray8811]

The documentary on Netflix "The Family" should be required watching for anyone struggling with the ideations of the Evangelicals within or government today. And yet, we are personally firmly rooted in our belief in Jesus Christ and the love of our fellow man but not under the umbrella of being "Evangelical." ... Altho, I am in need of His forgiveness many times a day for my spells of rudeness to many of the self-proclaimed, Evangelicals. ...

[@brianlaroche8856]

Its not a new concept

[@brit1066]

Listen to the recordings of what DUMPS OWN SISTER, THE JUDGE, SAYS ABOUT HIM. She said that the only time DUMP went to church WAS WHEN HE GOT MARRIED AND WHEN THERE WERE CAMERAS AT THE CHURCH. She said that DUMP has NO FAITH OR BELIEF IN RELIGION WHATSOEVER.

[@jamessimpson9690]

Here's an idea. Keep religion out of government. Separation of church and state should be absolute.

[@evelynpetroski1]

An original idea from the writers of our constitution. Imagine that. Now we know WHY. I am churched out. I will no longer help fund Christianity. When they choose a worthy leader maybe I will come back to believing in our Faith leaders. Right now, they don’t measure up to the task at hand. We don’t need hypocrites. We need serious leaders. All the rest need to lead, follow, or just get out of the way.

[@TheTomnom]

@@evelynpetroski1 You either believe in blind faith or you dont. There is no middle ground. Religion is for the feeble minded.

[@michaelrogers170]

Yes, so true. When you mix two eventually innocent people will suffer.

[@marcelwilliams6973]

This is an unjust law pushed through by a small anti-God group, which was not the intention of the founding fathers of the Union.

[@vitathervil5440]

Why would they...they've been using it to control people...why would they want to remove it now.

[@MightyCrazy]

I went to an Evangelical Church and all they talked about is how great Trump is and prayed for him none stop. They even have a picture Trump outside with flowers and offerings. Seniors crying while staring at his pictures. It was very very weird. Someone even mentioned that Trump was sent by God to save humanity.

[@MegaRoFLL]

is this fuckign true, man???? w t f

[@jetermeter1234]

@@MegaRoFLL know more news Adam Green

[@tmulcahy7869]

I believe what you say. I have spent much of my adult life around evangelicals. There has been teachings in many of their circles that the Antichrist, a man of sin will rise up and bring a false peace to the Middle East through a seven year peace treaty. Trump moves the embassy and proclaims that he is the only one who can bring peace in that region. Yet, you hear *crickets* from evangelicals. Not even a raised eyebrow after all of the movies, sermons, seminars, books etc that they have written and sold on the coming Antichrist and the Antichrist system. Trump's idealogy fits the antichrist system that evangelicals preach; however, the same evangelicals seem to see Trump as a savior rather than the "man of sin" he more closely resembles.

[@StandUp777]

God is exposing this as we speak.

[@peterhenriques6404]

Its called Idolatry

[@johnplain1546]

Fascinating stuff. Very important stuff

[@teresaamanfu7408]

A lot of them operate mainly on FAITH. Therefore, they accept extraordinary information without question.

[@MegaDiva1999]

very interesting preposition

[@Ms.Byrd68]

To answer her question: Stop 'equating' RELIGIOUS Sects with the actual BODY OF CHRIST! The 'Evangelical Sect' may have spent the last 40 years setting itself up to be a powerful force in this country but then there's the ACTUAL Body of Christ... He was born in an obscure village, the child of a peasant. He grew up in another village, where he worked in a carpenter shop until he was 30. Then, for three years, he was an itinerant preacher. He never wrote a book. He never held an office. He never had a family or owned a home. He didn't go to college. He never lived in a big city. He never traveled 200 miles from the place where he was born. He did none of the things that usually accompany greatness. He had no credentials but himself. He was only 33 when the tide of public opinion turned against him. His friends ran away. One of them denied him. He was turned over to his enemies and went through the mockery of a trial. He was nailed to a cross between two thieves. While he was dying, his executioners gambled for his garments, the only property he had on earth. When he was dead, he was laid in a borrowed grave, through the pity of a friend. Twenty centuries have come and gone, and today he is the central figure of the human race. I am well within the mark when I say that all the armies that ever marched, all the navies that ever sailed, all the parliaments that ever sat, all the kings that ever reigned--put together--have not affected the life of man on this earth as much as that one, solitary life.* *Attributed to James Allen Francis.

[@Ms.Byrd68]

@The Naked Skeptic I don't know where your getting 'thousands' from but your are either a 'Member of the Body of Christ' or you not and I don't care what you CALL YOURSELF, and neither does HE. What signifies that is simply what you believe about CHRIST HIMSELF! It ain't complicated!

[@Ms.Byrd68]

@The Naked Skeptic The problem for you (and those like you) is that you cannot admit to yourselves that in order to know us, you have to first KNOW HIM. Followers are judged by their leader, I can and will leave you with advise on KNOWING real Christians but unless you know HIM and who he is and was you will never be able to tell a true Christian from a 'False' one. Here is a line from the GUIDE BOOK written FOR CHRISTIANS to know each other... *Matthew **7:15**-20* 15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. And for the record, this is ALL the research I am DOING FOR YOU, if you truly want to be able to JUDGE the 'false from the true' you need to first pick up a copy of the GUIDE BOOK (The Bible), the New Testament will tell you just about ALL you need to know in order to actually RECOGNIZE true Christianity being practiced. Sorry if I didn't really provide you with that 'GOTCHA!!!' moment you were actually looking for...

[@Ms.Byrd68]

@The Naked Skeptic Like I said... you are not actually INTERESTED in being able to tell an actual Christian when you see or hear one, you just wanted a 'GOTTCHA' moment but that's okay, you can't come to HIM unless HE CALLS YOU anyway! John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me *draw him:* and I will raise him up at the last day. Be blessed anyway!

[@Ms.Byrd68]

@The Naked Skeptic I'm not speaking to them, I'm speaking to you based on your inquiry as to how to tell whether or not someone is actually a Christian.

[@Narrow-Pather]

Thank you and Amen. I know Christians that gave stopped referring to themselves as "Evangelicals" because of the Biblical hypocrisies that are more than obvious, and undeniable.

[@bebosing5755]

Church (regardless of religious persuasion) is a PERSONAL reverence to a higher power. State concerns the well being and progress of a county's population. They must remain separate or we may not survive the outcomes of the overlapping - tribalism, polarization, marginalization, ethnic cleansing- to name a few. History shows this clearly. It's quite cynical that the US can go to the Middle East to promote democracy as a response to religious fundamentalism, but cannot manage the issues at home.

[@donnamosley6674]

This was an excellent discussion. Very informative and helpful. As an African American Christian it was refreshing to hear a sound explanation to the madness of the marriage between white evangelicalism ical and Trumpism, Unholy: Why White Evangelicals Worship at the Altar of Donald Trump Excellent Title by the way. The book sounds like it is a winner, Best wishes with it, I plan to purchase it.

[@saffrons12]

This is a random aside but can we just take a moment to applaud Mr. Glaude’s exquisite library?! 🥳👏📚

[@glitterandcombatboots]

The way his books are organized are driving me crazy

[@chillsillego9599]

I grew up with a library very much similar “BOTH” my Mother & Father received Masters Degrees from MSU. My Dad at 80 owns about 8 Rental Properties. My Mother died alone having alienated everyone, never fully using YEARS of Education.

[@rodneymosley1626]

Eddie Glaude is great. I enjoy all of his commentaries. Im currently reading his book, Begin Again. But, Unholy will definitely be on my up next .

[@msc2u1]

I like him as well. Looking forward to reading his work.

[@ritadaniels5402]

Conversation is Right On Point! I agree with everything that was said! Thank you for your clarity and insight!

[@GodISLuV4EveR]

I knew something was up when my pastor would not pray for President Biden...How can you be a Christian and not want to see everyone come into the knowledge of Christ. Jesus is Love John 3:16

[@angelicamimosa]

The only ‘God’ that’s Worshiped in the USA is $ The Dollar! Get REAL y’all that’s all that’s worshiped and who has the most ‘Wins’!

[@Minecraftmom86]

You guys were spot on with your predictions about the transfer of power.

[@michaeld9682]

Indeed the election was stolen. But some still believe in Russian collusion

[@giacgiacalone6428]

I am watching this video now and hope you read this comment. On behalf of Evangelical Christian people who are not like those you labeled as let's say racist or such. As a Christian I don't support abortion or gay marriage. As a Christian I love the gay person and those who have had abortions because that is what Christian did and does. I had parents who had rules that if I violated had consequences. Despite issuing what consequences they deemed appropriate didn't stop them from loving me, but actually enforced the notion that they did love me. That being said all individuals have to deal with whatever consequences or rewards for their own choices. Having not always been a Christian and not having a gavel, robe, heaven or he'll to put anyone in, I don't judge anyone, however I do my best to make life choices based on my beliefs. I definitely agree with a huge portion of how you tied Trump into this movement you talked about, as a Christian I don't support either candidate though believe Biden is the lesser evil (not as a person being evil, but what he supports) I definitely don't support Trump. Many of my Christian friends declare how horrible he has acted, but they believe he is the one who will push to legislate America to a more biblical perspective. A real Christian knows that you can not legislate morality as it hasn't worked throughout history ever. Only a heart change can lead us to those moral changes. If you believe your choices are moral, a nd they conflict with my view of morality, that is your choice. My only question is what standard do you use to derive what you declare as your morals.

[@dawnemile7499]

Trump encourages the attitudes and behaviour and is not only the symptom.

[@aaronwatson5900]

The evangelicals in this country don't care about the character of it's leader's, when they can be WILLFULLY LEAD into believing that the "leader" represent their interest and values. Everyone of the civic and religious leaders who proclaim Jesus Christ as LORD but won't put FAITH before country, political party, position, etc., simply lose their witness and credibility while dimming the LIGHT and diluting the SALT of the WORLD. PROVERBS 16:12 It is an abomination to kings to do evil, for the throne is established by righteousness. PROVERBS 29:2 When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn. PROVERBS 29:12 If a ruler hearken to lies, all his servants are wicked.

[@kenbomar375]

The pulpit will not speak out because their financial backers are those money hungry conservatives who don’t want their kids schooling with those kinds of people. The pulpitteers want their six figure salaries and they will not challenge their tithers who threaten to pull the rug out if they scorn them. The threat is that the churches will look more like charity organizations and less like social clubs if they lose their big donors. The poor and lost people of other countries deserve some charity not the colored people two blocks over.

[@Ms.Byrd68]

@denise starr Depends on which pulpit your sitting under...

[@Ms.Byrd68]

@@sheroyal9326 I'm not sure of the point your making but it goes without saying that this is also scripture... Acts 5:29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, *We ought to obey God rather than men.* You can always find a scripture to make the point your trying to make but even with that *we are called to....* 2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, *rightly dividing the word of truth.*

[@Ms.Byrd68]

@KALDOUT WNZ Amen! You be blessed!

[@marymcmilleon2821]

Amen to that! So tired of evangelicals who call themselves followers of Christ, when in truth they are followers of an evil president who is destroying the country!

[@chelseajackson6206]

Hypocrites is what they really are.

[@healinghumanity1782]

Why don’t we see that love & good fellowship are the delights of heaven, while hostility & hatred are the torments of hell?

[@cyber6sapien]

1:21:35 " We are not in the business of predicting the future, BUT .. ." (Panel proceeds to perfectly predict the future )

[@---Dana----]

"She was religious and therefore well-practiced in self-deception." PD James

[@louisedost8476]

Paula White????????👍👍👍👍😷😷

[@franzludwig7104]

Recommend to youtube HOLY KOOLAID.

[@---Dana----]

@@franzludwig7104 , I've seen some of his videos, and like him very much.

[@cklam5520]

In the 60's and 70's evangelicals stood for enthusiastic proclamation and careful defending of the gospel of Jesus Christ. They continued the legacy of the early reformed believers in their faith and practice. They were particularly concerned about the emerging influence of the "social gospel" (today's social justice ) and the "signs and wonders and prophets". (The gospel of health and wealth and security was not an issue then). Their concern was right. The present day definition of evangelicals is the combination of a "white believers" + "social justice", + "signs and wonders and prophets" + "health and wealth and security", but with the glaring absence of the gospel of Jesus Christ. I believe God has sent a wake up call to the believers in the USA by way of the pandemic crisis. God desires to see a purification and cleaning up of the church in America. God is calling the believers to return to the gospel of Jesus Christ. God desires to see the believers removing all the strange elements from their faith and practices.

[@sandyblakney779]

Check out the history of the rise of the Evangelical movement and the battle for tax free private religious schools as a means to perpetuate segregation. The Evangelical movement emerged in response to Brown versus Topeka Board of Education. Racism!

[@LadyLeda2]

I do not understand your statement. What Church in America? We have so many different types. What are the strange elements God wishes to remove?

[@jimcompton-schmidt807]

this was one of the most important hour and a half's i have ever spent....i hope to see these three people together again...they were sooooo right about the election...

[@jamalrobinson8321]

If Yall was really Christians there wouldn't be any hungry or homeless people in the entire country. In the world

[@adacasas511]

It's very encouraging to hear that "Whites" are having thoughtful conversations about this topic! Let's have a geologists perspective and get through this process so humanity can truly Live Long and Prosper. 🖖🏽🖖🏼🖖🏻🖖🖖🏿🚀

[@richardg1426]

How can a Christian worship Trump, when we are told to only worship God ?

[@arthurhunt642]

I'm an atheist so I won't follow either one. I think critically about everything and by doing so I see no evidence for a god.

[@arthurhunt642]

@@richardg1426 At the time there was no way to compare the size of the singularity with anything else. Where did an all knowing, all seeing, omniscient, omnipotent, Omnipresent creator come from? Evolution from a link not as well advanced? The bible has no proof of anything in reality. Why would a God have to hide out of sight? If this God could give a quadriplegic new arms and legs that we could actually see, that would be a little convincing right? God must not like quadriplegics. Nothing in science is the way the bible explains it. I've read and studied the bible for many years. I use critical thinking as much as I can and I follow science. Try watching a video called "Science Saved My Soul" I think it says a lot.

[@langreeves6419]

I am a white male evangelical Christian who is in his 50s. I have never and never will support someone like Trump, who is the most antichristian politician I know.

[@larrysmith2636]

Remember those people back in the neighborhood, church house, schoolhouse, marketplace and local seat of government? They claimed to be Christians. Apparently, it depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is.

[@truthmatters3717]

Everybody on this video was awesome..it's about time for people to have a truthful conversation about how this country, and around the world has absolutely not been ready or willing to keep it 💯..we all know what's really happening, and has happened to get to where we are..PEACE to the world.

[@companyconfidential6624]

They sure prayed Psalm 109:8 though. Thank G-d that was another unanswered prayer along with the African angels.

[@dorothyharris6596]

Lol

[@ginajones2328]

@@dorothyharris6596 lol x2. African Angels. Yeah that was some crazy show

[@cuckoophendula8211]

Matthew 25 : 31 - 46 is all I needed to see. You know, that passage about how people who don't treat the impoverished, the foreign, the convicted, the sick, or the hungry as they'd to to Jesus won't get into heaven during the day of judgment?

[@craigsmith1443]

And Jesus said this to which king?

[@kenkeefner3164]

Thank you Sera, I see you have done your homework. Keep up the exposure of the evangelical hypocrites.

[@marieshepp5365]

Charles Cox ; speaks brother , teach them THE WORD. God bless you 🙏 the world needs more Apostles like you .

[@Grandpa_Boxer]

It can all be narrowed down to "POWER & CONTROL"

[@cattycorner8]

Taxpaying, law abiding citizens of ALL colors have a right to live safely in their communities. They should be as protected as possible from violence and crime in our streets. These citizens should be THE PRIORITY of a government.

[@IFYOUWANTITGOGETIT]

We need more discussions like this. Very helpful information.

[@billymcclure9732]

trump is their lord nd their god who wants the praise and worship of his minions. these people have been baptized with the same anointing or Chaos, Lying, Hatred and Darkness as their leader, trump. wherever he goes, he spreads Chaos and he infects others with his anointing from the abyss. in the beginning Darkness was upon the earth but God said, Let There Be Light (Light Be)! And it was so. In the Name of King Jesus, the One with All Authority, I speak, I proclaim, and it Must be so: In the Name of Jesus, I Bind the Spirit of Chaos over this Nation. You Have No Authority and I declare that you are Powerless and Command that you and your minions Leave Now! I command you to be Quiet Now! Out in the Name of Jesus! Out Now! I speak Peace. Peace Now, in Jesus Name! I command Everything that has been affected by the Spirit of Chaos to be made straight and to be Healed!

[@msc2u1]

MORE PLEASE ‼️‼️‼️‼️

[@alexanderh9878]

They have sold their souls to the Devil, shame on them.

[@jollyzara4678]

BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT TRUE CHRISTIANS...

[@rockycomet4587]

THIS IS MAGA COUNTRY!!! 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲

[@Soul_Latina]

@@rockycomet4587 ayeeee. Yeeeessss🥳🥳

[@paulettemorgan9959]

Listening to this almost 2 years after the elections it sounds prophetic.

[@IFYOUWANTITGOGETIT]

They literally predicted what Trump and his base would do if they lost. Not that that was difficult...

[@annpringle8219]

What bible are these so called Christians reading? God doesn't hate, bigotry, hatred, lies, corrupt, racist, or cares about politics!! Please tell us who these people are praying too!!

[@Adven4U1]

Satan.

[@Su_aSponte]

hopefully the big golden statue of the clown will Wake a few of our brothers and sisters up. I remember 15 years ago being in meetings where they called the white christians to bless, pray over our black christian siblings and to repent and ask for forgiveness on behalf of the racist crimes of the past and present. These people have knowledge and understanding as to how we got here. The church has tolerated this and it has taken root. Loving a lie. not realizing in Adam all die. God have mercy on us all.

[@tanyakadi3445]

This is such a poignant interesting interview. I wish to see a follow up of this. Given watch we are seeing now... they were spot on. Wow.

[@michaeld9682]

What we are seeing now is the destruction of America by the Biden administration

[@SolaGratia.]

I'm considered "white" although I'm more Chitimacha Indian and Lebanese. My father was a Christian pastor and I attended Bible College in my younger years. I also spent many years working in Christian ministries and inner city outreach. However... I am absolutely aghast at the Christian community at large (especially the white communities) supporting such a disgusting, narcissistic, wicked and greedy man. My theory has always been this: For most of my life, it was liberals who were outspoken and often rude and inconsiderate of the beliefs and feelings of conservatives. But when Donald Trump appeared on the scene and gave them back a few hard doses of their own medicine, Christian conservatives felt vindicated and that they had their own fighter in the ring for once, who wouldn't give the other side an inch without trying his best to make them regret it. 5 years later, his behavior has spread to all of his supporters, causing Christian conservatives to lose the one thing that made them respectable to those with opposing beliefs. Their integrity. Thanks to that, I've lost respect for so many people I once admired. The Trump movement has pushed anyone who isn't his sycophant into the fringe minority of conservatism, and people like me who refuse to support a man who does not represent my beliefs as a person, a Christian, an American, or a conservative are treated like red headed step children who have betrayed their own party and must secretly be liberals or support the mass genocide of unborn children. I'm disgusted. Nothing about the republican party as it is post-Trump remotely resembles what I always thought the party stood for, and Christians who claim Jesus is their Messiah have come to treat Donald Trump as though HE'S our nation's Savior. I actually saw someone say "Trump came to deliver us from evil." I'm throwing up in my mouth just typing all of this, and for the first time in my life, I'm grateful the Republicans lost an election.

[@ThatClassic70sGirl]

@Stephie Calligraphy "For most of my life, it was liberals who were outspoken and often rude and inconsiderate of the beliefs and feelings of conservatives." And this has changed? 😯When?

[@SolaGratia.]

@@ThatClassic70sGirl I didn't say it changed.

[@TheDemanding1]

Wow!

[@waynejeez5620]

Christ is neither Republican nor Democrat.

[@ThatClassic70sGirl]

Neither does he support killing babies, pedophilia, or selling out one's country to the highest bidder. But, hey, have it your way.

[@waynejeez5620]

@@ThatClassic70sGirl nor does Christ "support" ANYONE sinning against Him.

[@debrac3391]

@@ThatClassic70sGirl Have you ever actually opened a Bible?

[@darrylcampbell8249]

Thank you for p Bring this to. Light

[@philmarsh3859]

"Evangelicals" Everything that's wrong with humanity and more!

[@ImHereFindMe]

Yes worse than ISIS

[@maryriden2941]

Hate will never win

[@denisealchurbaji9646]

There is no way to rationally explain what has happened with the current phenomenon of Trump.

[@yikesyikes5974]

Because they are racist...Duh!

[@winstonwhite4925]

Shame on the so called Christians who support and uphold this man and his dirt.😭👎🏿

[@wandaallen-conely3512]

The Watchers of black people.THE WATCHERS .

[@wandaallen-conely3512]

Put That 10% in your piggybank and you'll see how much your preacher has hustled you out of over the years .Don't pay to go to Church.LIES ARE FREE and on TV every Day especially SUNDAY MORNINGS.

[@Kiki-en9vm]

Well,I use to be one of them but not anymore,too much hypocrisy.

[@deneshiahonadel6387]

Same!!

[@kenkeefner3164]

I've been studying these hypocrites since before Jim and Tammy fea.

[@ginajones2328]

Me also

[@janicelloyd3215]

Yes, I remember in early 70’s, Jerry Falwell was on tv Saturday night, asking for money ,money money.Oops, more money. All that money corrupts people who might be honest otherwise. They want more power, political power.

[@truthseekerlastname4686]

This is an important topic I'm praying this will continue. Thank you Sarah Poster for writting this Book and I love Eddie!

[@louisedost8476]

Obituaries you wanna talk obituaries. 🎃Lock him up👍!!!!!!!😡😡😡😷😷

[@Sparklingchina]

Who says Dems are less religious? I do have another question. Are we worshiping the same God?

[@lovely0517]

White Evangelical wants to believe they are the true believers but have proven to be hypocritical. Nothing in their behavior says Christ like.

[@cochisecarter6298]

Well according to the gospel of white Evangelicals you can't be Christian and support a pro-choice candidate......🤣🤣🤣.So you must vote for Trump simply because he's pro-life and ignore his litany of vile and unchristian behavior. All that allegedly matters to white Evangelicals is the unborn and everyone else be damned.

[@susanray8811]

@@cochisecarter6298 A bitter pill to swallow for the Evangelicals is that Conservative Evangelicals have been flocking to those abortion clinics just as often as the hated baby-killing "Liberals." j/s And the last survey I saw of Porn Hub's showed that it's overwhelming largest audience was in the "Bible Belt" and the most-watched porn within that market was gay porn.

[@michellelawrence2574]

This is good but I would have wanted to have some opposition. Let’s hear both sides.Let’s from the Evangelicals as to why they didn’t respond. Why are they such Trump supporters? It’s more to this.

[@CarmenPerez-kz6rw]

I don’t get it. Even my pastors at my three home churches are deceived by trumpism!!

[@cv3045]

Excellent program.

[@lifestyledesign2208]

Excellent discussion good people.

[@marlenebrown2569]

I love it how you all can speak about the elephant in the room without mentioning specifics like the names of the people in the proverbial room.

[@pennycaldwell8141]

The moral majority has always been neither!

[@JamesAllenFord]

I agree with your comment, and as an aside, it reminds me of the Saturday Night Live skit "Coffee Talke with Linda Richman," where she says, "The Holy Roman Empire was neither holy nor Roman nor an empire. Discuss." ;)

[@amandathornton6649]

"Damn this is good!!"

[@ginajones2328]

Wowzer it is good

[@michaelmoyer8951]

Amazing how many of the predictions, such as about transition have come to pass now some 6 months later.

[@NotABushFan1]

What is funny is when Trump did his acceptance speech in Cleveland one of his biggest applause came when he said we need to support the LGBT and yet once he was in office he went after trans people on day one.

[@stevenhanson1454]

This is a great book review. This is journalism at it's best. Spooky ...good. Specially the end.

[@viccalloway6363]

Very good!!! Thanks for sharing!

[@antoniobenamer8681]

God gave you a huge brain Capable of sending man to The Moon and Mars, yet you Choose to turn it off.

[@ThatClassic70sGirl]

Who is "you"?

[@franzludwig7104]

Antonio Benamer, Some years back, a science survey found that 26% of the people in the U.S. believe that the Sun revolves around the Earth; that same percentage later in Nov. 2016 voted for the man that believes the world revolves around him.

[@iseektruth]

A majority of Orthodox Jews supported Trump. Will you write a book about that?

[@stellan.designscraftsuprin5840]

First Amendment Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

[@ndailorw5079]

@ Elke Angelica Hoffman And.... Your point is what, exactly? I fail to see the context that prompted your comment.

[@maryriden2941]

We had that all our life's so it's still hate when I go to the store is have to spend my money where people don't like me for the color of my skin

[@andyvisuals]

Love this, but wish Eddie would expound on this (around 27:10 mark) "this this isn't going to be uprooted by just simply ridding us of dot ridding us of Donald Trump this this view right, which is in some ways justified by certain theological understanding..." Can anybody offer what those "certain theological understandings" are? As a student of Christian theology, I'm really curious what Eddie or Sarah think those are. (Maybe Sarah covers some of those in the book...)

[@Hopesclan]

Abortion and lgbtq rights-“protecting family values”

[@roz7056]

That is Dr. to you not Eddy. Respect

[@DDDDDDD34]

I thought it was just me. Thank you

[@sharonhearne5014]

In speaking of religious fundamentalism and Christian evangelical ties to Trump we are really speaking of a retrograde approach to U.S. governance. The desire is to go back in history to a time of perceived control of social behavior using religion as the control or managing element of society. However, fundamentalist Christian super churches have become far wealthier, gained more press coverage with the public and more political clout by allying themselves to political elites with the goal of influencing governance of society in general. This is actually a power grab and a manner of saying “we know what is best for the AMERICAN public” and religion is the way. My guess is that - on a gut level - religious belief is threatened by science and a well-educated public. This more progressive approach requires expansive thinking as to ways to advance culture, knowledge, social advancement and equity between male and female, between the privileged and underprivileged, class and racial divides, corporate and public interests, etc., and this threatens Christian evangelical ideals. Their belief is that the two cannot co-exist: one of the two must be rooted out.

[@calvinburr1248]

For years I've been asking the rhetorical question, "Where do people learn the dubious skill of believing in things unsupported by evidence?" They are taught, usually from early childhood, that it is not only okay, but obligatory, to believe in the superstitious beliefs and unlikely claims of their parents' religion. If only they could turn that skill on and off at the right times, but they cannot, and invariably, many people transfer that "skill" outside of their faith and into other sectors of their lives. It gets applied to invalid information and false claims of all types involving science, politics, conspiracy claims. They learned that skepticism was forbidden in church, now they avoid using it for most everything else.

[@luisortega7028]

I'm watching this mid December '20. Sarah had a crystal ball regarding postelection right's reaction to trump's loss.

[@MichaelJ843]

The only thing that gets the far right or far left attention is when they lose money.