Boom or Bust? DOCTOR WHO Disney+ Season 14 Episode 3 Reaction | Boom

[@Syntell]

Seen Rekkai's breakdown of this episode? - kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6nXYaOeic5jeq8

[@nupefromdaville]

Thank you bro! New deep dive coming!

[@tomasrodriguezmartinez2366]

Yes

[@Syntell]

@@tomasrodriguezmartinez2366 no you haven't... but it is up NOW!

[@nupefromdaville]

@@tomasrodriguezmartinez2366 No you haven't, but it is up NOW!

[@tomasrodriguezmartinez2366]

He actually made me cry and thank you syntell and rekkai for giving me motivation

[@Thunderyhail]

There’s so many subtle callbacks in this episode to previous Moffat works that you guys will appreciate once you return to the previous seasons but they are subtle enough to not make the viewer confused and I love it.

[@Velociraptour]

Pulling out Villenguard, the Church, and the Anglican Marines out of his toy box.

[@Syntell]

We can't wait to get back to some of the previous seasons. So many great stories waiting to be discovered.

[@OldManFerdiad]

@@Syntell Villenguard is where Capt Jack's Sonic "Squareness Gun" Disruptor was made and the 9th Doctor (Eccleston) mentioned it was now a grove of bananas.

[@binrotheheretic8174]

​@@SyntellThis episode just adds to the reasons why many of us kind of suggest you do Genesis of the Daleks before episode 11 of series 4 of Nu Who ... can't explain why for spoilers reasons.- other than i contains the inspiration for Boom.

[@Sam.hjshshdhbd]

@@binrotheheretic8174 nah lol, just watch it as it comes, this stuff has no substance, doing callbacks for nostalgia won’t change that lol

[@SeeJay81]

I saw a comment elsewhere that it feels like the daughter was written as 5 or 6 year old, but was cast older. That really hit the nail on the head for me, it definitely felt like she was supposed to be much, much younger than she looks.

[@WaveK89]

I didn't know Nctui until Doctor Who, but I have to say that he is a treat as the Doctor. It's amazing how quick this episode went with the amount of tension the whole episode gave off.

[@Syntell]

The tension could have been another character itself. Very well done episode.

[@MJE-riffs]

The weapons manufacturers of Villengard are first mentioned by Christopher Eccleston in The Doctor Dances. He blew up their factory and replaced it with a banana grove.

[@chrisleneil]

Bananas are good!

[@HellfireComms]

Nctui already proved he was the Doctor to me in The Giggle, but here it's beyond any doubt. Great episode with a terrific performance.

[@emilyxx23]

One of my favorite things about Doctor Who is that one moment we have adorable talking babies, the next we get a killer villain performance by Jinkx Monsoon, and then we take a sharp turn to dive into heavy topics like war profiteering. The range and variety of storytelling is incredible ❤

[@Puzzleboy51]

As soon as I saw that Steven Moffat wrote this one. I knew this episode was going to be good. So glad to see him come back to the show.

[@Syntell]

He didn't disappoint.

[@Delboy0]

The first two episodes were appalling, killing Ncuti as the Doctor with two very weak episodes, when they needed to start with bang.

[@nekobat1962]

Fish fingers and custard is a reference to The 11th Doctor.

[@serenshadow89]

Steven Moffat was my favorite Doctor Who showrunner and this episode was a reminder why. He even managed to insert a touch of whimsy in this super intense episode! You'll get Moffat soon enough when you get back to the older episodes. He takes over at the start of season 5 and stays through the end of season 10. Clergy being the military is something you'll see during Moffat's era. I don't know if he introduced the idea or not - it could have come from Classic Who, I haven't seen enough of Classic Who to know. But he uses the concept at various points through his run. Makes sense to me. The Doctor is right - they have been soldiers and warriors throughout human history. Holy wars are still being waged in some parts of the world.

[@agoodday9247]

I won't lie, I'd be so glad if he decided he also wanted to have another run at it like RTD. I'm all for fresh blood but Moffat was brilliant, can't wait for them to get to Series 5

[@R.senals_Arsenal]

The Anglican Marines AFAIK were not in Classic WHO, they first appear in the 2 parter near the start of Series 5, THAT one. Which is 51st century, and so is their other appearances, and given the Calendar age they gave for Ruby, it also adds up to 51st century, so he has his notes and checks them while writing. Only other WHO stuff in or around that time period I think is Magnus Greel from the Talons of Weng-Chiang in Classic WHO.

[@TheLibrarianOG1]

I liked that you mentioned the little girl and what she represents, because a lot of people have been missing that point and throwing a fit about why she was even in that story, or how she shouldn't be acting like that for her age. That was exactly the point.

[@1funkyflyguy]

Maybe...but not totally convinced by that!?

[@nupefromdaville]

I will be posting my deep dive soon. Keep checking the pinned comment!

[@fleason771]

It will be a fascinating discussion given the social commentary within the episode 👍

[@Syntell]

FYAH!!!!

[@OldManFerdiad]

looking forward to your deep dive on this one

[@nupefromdaville]

@@OldManFerdiad it is up now!

[@nupefromdaville]

@@fleason771 it is up now!

[@zinnia2980]

Steven Moffatt said his inspiration for Boom was the classic Dr Who episode Genesis of the Daleks where the Doctor stands on a landmine. He said he wanted to evoke the same emotions he experienced watching it. We were not expecting Varada Sethu (Mundy) to appear so soon in Dr Who (can't say anymore, it's going to be in (Disney numbering) season 2 spoiler alert❗) Thanks for the video 👌😍

[@Syntell]

Thank you for watching with us. This was a fun episode.

[@lunacouer]

Can't say more, yet you said 90%. Dang, y'all can't wait to ruin people's experiences, can you?

[@zinnia2980]

@@Syntell We appreciate you so much 👋There are so many references from Steven Moffatt's seven years in charge of Dr Who in Boom 😍 & @lunacouer everyone knows the spoiler as its been widely reported practically everywhere 😕

[@R.senals_Arsenal]

We don't know she'll be playing the same character. I think this is one of those situations like with Freema where they liked the actor so they brought them back later as a different character to be main cast. Nobody knows for sure what part she'll play in Serial 2, but I think RTD had made a vague comment to suggest it won't be as Mundy. But no one knows but him and his crew, so not a spoiler to have wild speculation.

[@IsiahBradley]

P.S.: From AI (ChatGPT4): "The quote 'What survives of us is love' is often attributed to Philip Larkin, a prominent British poet. It comes from his poem 'An Arundel Tomb,' which was published in his 1964 collection 'The Whitsun Weddings.' The poem reflects on a medieval tomb and the effigies of a couple lying side by side, their hands joined. The closing lines of the poem capture a sense of enduring love that transcends time: 'Our almost-instinct almost true: What will survive of us is love.' "These lines suggest that, despite the passage of time and the inevitability of death, love is the enduring legacy of human existence."

[@Velociraptour]

After Moffat made a very middle-of-the-road statement about the show's politics a few years ago, he really didn't pull punches with this one.

[@lewisharvey9109]

I don't get people's fascination with hidden politics , even if it's obvious what the writer means, as long as it makes sense to the story who cares😂

[@R.senals_Arsenal]

@@lewisharvey9109 There are rightwing people who pretend to like the show just enough to be butthurt when it makes a statement that goes against their vices/beliefs.

[@lewisharvey9109]

@@R.senals_Arsenal spot on , can't help but laugh at some of what I'm reading.

[@Velociraptour]

@@lewisharvey9109 it's not so much that people are looking for politics in the show like easter eggs, it's just good to see that Moffat and RTD are committing to the progressive spirit of the show despite the backlash, because there are people who keep trying to misrepresent it.

[@MJE-riffs]

It's weird that every one of Ncuti's episodes have featured the same actress, Susan Twist, playing different characters. This week, she was the recorded message of the ambulance, last week she was the lady working at the BBC canteen, before that she was one of the former crew of the Space Babies station. She was in the Christmas episode, too. Probably just coincidence.

[@TheLibrarianOG1]

Part of the mystery for the season or pertaining to Ruby's true identity, which RTD said would span two seasons so if she's part of that mystery, it's possible she'll be in every episode until we know the truth about Ruby, so that could be till the next season

[@fayesouthall6604]

Ruby’s mum?

[@nupefromdaville]

I thought I was the only one who picked up on that!

[@MJE-riffs]

@@nupefromdaville "There's always a Twist at the end..."

[@HuntingViolets]

Good episode. I like when you can see the previous Doctors saying the lines too, if that makes sense. You know they're all one person at different stages of life.

[@fleason771]

I honestly thought they would use a volume wall in the gap of The TARDIS set (especially after the leaked pics of it's construction) but instead they used one for this episode & it doesn't surprise me they used that extra Disney money + prob got a good deal on the equipment with some Disney contacts. Everything bar the communal living of the Anglicans was shot in a studio & it looked incredible 👌 Great episode, it flew by Another appearance of the Snow ❄️ & actress Susan Twist as the Ambulance 🚑 🤔🤔 & a guest spot for Varada Sethu from Andor as Munday Flynn too

[@sidselh]

Snow isn't snow until it falls - reminds me of Shogun's quote "flowers are only flowers when they fall"

[@deemo7868]

This is my favorite episode of the new season, so far. The stakes became higher at every turn. There was a social statement embedded in an excellent story. My kind of Who.

[@IsiahBradley]

@syntell , your graphic listing the episode number is wrong but your review is so right!!! LOL!!! Another Moffat classic!!! And you will see this religious army again soon!!! Damn, @nupefromdaville Rekkai....the way you explain that little girl....this is why I really don't remember my life without this channel (and yours), particularly with Who!!!!

[@R.senals_Arsenal]

Great episode! This is Moffatt doing what he does best. Little girl was the only negative, but like you said/implied - maybe that's intentional cause she represents ignorant reality-denying childish people who don't learn even when it is right in their face. I hadn't thought of that before. I probably need to watch the Commentary from the writer on the Blu-Ray or something if it ever gets released like that. Sorry I'm late to the party. Crazy stuff going on IRL. Ambulance came to my parents house last night, but thankfully my 75 yo step-mom was not deemed unworthy to save by the Algorithm! I know the joke the Brits sometimes tell about America is the EMT has to check your wallet before your pulse, but in reality they're great competent capable people and I'm glad my parents have Medicare. If only every citizen had such coverage. I wish we did have an NHS like they do across the pond. If I didn't have a good job I wouldn't be covered. I lived a good portion of my life w/out any coverage. Capitalism for you, yet again. The messaging of this story was on point! And that line about Faith meaning you can switch off your thinking! Chef's Kiss! I punched the sky on my couch, thank you Doctor for saying so. Nothing wrong with faith but it is a tool not a crutch and too many people walk around like they've no legs to stand on at all.

[@qa1327]

19:26 the girl character is weird. I thought they could have done a better job with her character but I liked your insight into her 30:27 Enjoyed this episode. It was full of tension and stress. Enjoyed your reaction to it.

[@fayesouthall6604]

She’s indoctrinated by religion and probably losing mother and father isn’t great either.

[@colinbayley6764]

Not sure if this has been mentioned by anyone before but Harold Saxon was first mentioned in the season 2 episode Love and Monsters. In a newspaper headline. Yer that episode. It does show how long The Master was on Earth before the time lines were in sinc.

[@suzettehorst4065]

OMG! That CHILD!! She was just stubborn and hard-headed. I could hear my mother and grandmother saying, “hard head makes a soft bottom” There are times for an explanation, but then was NOT IT, and she just needed to do what she was told to do.

[@rain6957]

She feels like Moffat wasn't really sure what age he wanted her to be, the actress is clearly like 10 or 11, but I feel like she's written so much younger

[@jollyrayda]

@@rain6957 Or... it was a bit wonky because they didn't make it clear till the very end that her viewpoint on death was different. She wasn't upset by his death, but the concept of abandoning him was totally anathema to her. I agree it didn't play that well, but it's there.

[@andrewroberts299]

Doctor Who is back! Thank God for Steven Moffat! Best episode since RTD came back as show runner. It’s been announced that Moffat is writing this year’s Christmas special, which is surprising because in the past it’s always been the show runner in NuWho that writes the Christmas episode, so I can only think that Moffat has come up with such a great idea/story that RTD was happy to step aside because he couldn’t top it with any of his own ideas. Here’s hoping.

[@samc8534]

There's a callback here (well, quite a few callbacks, but you haven't gotten to most of the relevant episodes yet) that I actually missed on my first watch. The Weapon Groves of Villengard were mentioned in The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances as a place that the Doctor visited, destroyed, and replaced with a banana farm.

[@jamesa.fitzpatrick1566]

Nothing wrong with faith. I think this episode is trying to make a point about blind faith. Brilliant comments. Love this channel.

[@chrissie627]

I love the callbacks not only to flesh and stone with the soldiers but also sorta kinda the library episodes, what technology after death would look like

[@sineaterdred1]

FYI, you should keep this episode in mind while watching the catch-up episodes. There are Easter eggs. 🖖😎👍

[@Nerdahedron]

Love hearing your insights and analysis. So important to talk about.

[@jakeoliver9167]

ruby isnt literally 3000 years old. It said calender age. These are future humans from earth, they had records. It was just based on her birthday. This joke has been made in doctor who a while back. When the TARDIS scanned her in episode one it confirmed her biologically as 19 years old

[@Gavin-Hewitt]

I been HIGHLY critical of this season so far , but this was a great episode!

[@Cine_Curious]

Instant classic. Loved everything about it. Who is back!

[@omarmrice]

Damn, I can’t do it lol I tried to rock out with y’all jumping forward, but I can see now that I’m gonna be waiting for y’all to make connections the whole time 😂. I bang with the channel tho, I’ll just have to wait on the Who stuff.

[@DakNJaxter]

This was a great one. Almost just one location, and a tough situation on the boil. In the past, Moffat has compared miltarism and organised religion (and capitalism) as similar forms of fanatacism, but throwing in the alhorithmic element in was a great wrinkle. Though yeah, the little girl (as a character, no hate on the child actor) was pretty annoying. Such an unbelivable lack of situational awareness.

[@binrotheheretic8174]

This finally feels like proper who after the last 2 episodes...

[@ajtandon3679]

Fish fingers and custard is in a doctor who season you have not got to yet

[@ginsbergsgirl75]

Fish fingers and custard is a whole thing. Just wait until you guys get to the 11th Doctor!

[@peterd788]

It's the best so far. So far Disney Who has not felt like Doctor Who and this was closer.

[@Syntell]

Felt just like old Who. I can see more of the potential of this season from this episode.

[@siegeperilous]

⁠​⁠@@Syntellthe difference is …Moffat…

[@theprophetessnastacia]

Fish fingers and custard ❤ One of my favorite callbacks to one of my favorite companions. I won’t say what the person’s name is 🤐 This revelation is coming soon when Syntell and Rekkai react to the past seasons after David Tennant’s departure. #whovianforlife

[@solitarymaninblack]

The Skyebolt song is also the theme for the Outlander TV series which is also about time travel. Lots of war scenes. Season one begins in Scotland.

[@agoodday9247]

A Steven Moffat episode 🎉 We have never been more back!

[@darkphoenix6807]

Thank you! That little girl was special. Nobody else wants to admit it.

[@Triskaan]

Aaaah there we are, been waiting. :) I must say, at the risk of sounding a bit pedantic, I'm really curious to see some American takes on the criticism of blind faith. Mind you, I respect the shit ton of spiritual people who form their own vision of the universe and potential higher powers but it's more difficult for me to comprehend basing your entire life on old scriptures written centuries ago, so that take on blind faith was very welcome for me.

[@MJE-riffs]

Honestly, I think this episode should've been called Kiss Kiss, but what do I know?

[@thelazygamer1639]

It probably went through a few titles. Kiss, Kiss, Boom. Thoughts and Prayers.

[@1funkyflyguy]

@@thelazygamer1639 They are all really good titles for this particular episode.

[@fayesouthall6604]

Or Thoughts and Prayers

[@HuntingViolets]

That would have been a great title.

[@fayesouthall6604]

What an episode. War by algorithm! Who knew. Screwed with religion. The lady playing Mundy Flynn is the new companion for Dr Who next season. Don’t know if it’s one or two companions? I think the snow is Ruby’s equivalent of Bad Wolf.

[@iiTzPredatorHD]

It makes me sad some of the easter eggs went over your heads, i cant wait till you catch up to bits & be like oh shit that's what they meant 😅

[@bennettnez4711]

Can't wait for you guys to get to Moffat era! Capaldi is unbeatable

[@LETZZPLAY]

Can’t wait to watch this Reaction hope you guys are doing well 💯

[@Syntell]

Having a ball with all of these wonderful stories. Really looking forward to revisiting some of the older seasons.

[@LETZZPLAY]

@@Syntell can’t wait for more Doctor Who content 😀

[@ricohutchinson9684]

Once u meet the 11th ull get the reference fish fingers and custard😂

[@dylanh7600]

Mad that your reacting to disney doctor who before the golden era

[@7thangelz]

the little girl isn't stupid, it's the environment she is brought up in. that's what makes the ep so dark. reacting to the hologram memories is normalized

[@tomasrodriguezmartinez2366]

My favorite of this season

[@MJE-riffs]

Kind of weird that in the last episode, they said Ruby had been travelling with the Doctor for six months, but this is her first time on an alien planet?

[@R.senals_Arsenal]

I have a suspicion the episodes were reordered for some reason and that line wasn't corrected, but it's just a personal theory. I guess we'll see when 74 Yards or Dot and Bubble come out as to which one RTD was so proud of.

[@hanonhold]

I didn't know you were reacting to Doctor Who. I'm seated.

[@ClintBandito]

So on BBC iPlayer it's Episode 3. Basically The Church on Ruby Road is listed as "Christmas Special" with no number, but is still at the start of the Season, but I think Disney Plus doesn't have a way to list it as such without it having a number. I also reckon they want to make it clear that that's the place for new audiences to start. BBC official though is episode 3.

[@HuntingViolets]

They used to number the Christmas special as 0.

[@danielhead8123]

Fantastic episode

[@chrisleneil]

Great reactions to a great episode! 💜💜➕🌈🟦

[@JackBarrugon]

So... we gonna talk about the actress Susan Twist yet? I'll put it in a reply. There's no spoilers - I have no special information - but some people might not be into speculating.

[@JackBarrugon]

So, Susan Twist. This actress (and it is her real name, she's been a working actress for some years) has been in 5 episodes recently. 1. The special Wild Blue Yonder, as a woman in the 18th century. Not saying more, as Syntell and Rekkai haven't watched that yet. 2. In The Church on Ruby Road, as a woman at Ruby's gig who requests that she play Gaudete, a very old Christmas Carol. 3. A brief cameo in Space Babies as a recorded message from one of the crew who abandoned ship. 4. A tea lady in The Devil's Chord, who says she's like Margaret Lockwood in The Wicked Lady - "statuesque". 5. And now in Boom she's the lady on the ambulance droids. Also in The Devil's Chord we had the doctor mentioning his granddaughter Susan, and notably 'There's always a Twist at the end". She's confirmed in next week's cast too. I have no idea where this is going, tbh, lots of clues and no proper link between them yet. So, any (unspoilery) ideas, people?

[@jb2839]

Terminator status

[@LionMane877]

If y’all are gonna watch ahead I’m just gonna check out of this watch through. Feels like cheating

[@csk7769]

I thought it was pretty clear that Splice knew the hologram wasn't her real dad, she straight up called it a hologram too. There's no reason to assume that a normal outside kid who got special permission to be here (which means they have no procedure for explaining the war or the caskets to children) would know that the hologram means her dad is dead. (They emphasize this before we even hit the intro, and when she meets Ruby and Doc, the first people who might actually tell Splice what's going on, they completely refuse.) Her dad was simply missing, and the hologram was the only lead to his whereabouts that she could find. That's also why she only panics once the Ambulance takes the AI away. I don't get how you could think that she was too stupid to tell or was in shock, that's ironically enough a bad faith reading of the episode

[@morikk-ei3rl]

Please react to Interview With The Vampire S2

[@Syntell]

We’re already on it. Episodes 2 should be out shortly.

[@morikk-ei3rl]

@@Syntell oh Thank you for answering❤️❤️

[@solitarymaninblack]

The kid was annoying. If it was possible place the kid on the mine instead. You might like @DWPoop has done a few spoofs of this series.

[@roborob4296]

I was glad to see Moffat coming back to guest writing since he took a break during the awful era after his run. Cant really say much due to spoilers of his writing style but yea typical Moffat stuff here though this episode started off crazy I think I would have to rate it as one of his weakest. Though I love the doctor hating on blind faith as someone who was raised christian and finally broke free of that brain washing in highschool it hurts sometimes seeing people who are so steadfast in their beliefs. the annoying child ruined it for me though she was important to the typical doctor who weak conclusion... also the "everywhere is a beach eventually" sure except most planets dont even have oceans but i guess every planet with life should have some kinda water but still. and the teasing next of kin when we only got like 8 episodes in a season when we used to have 13. also the dumb song in the last episode and waiting for the "twist at the end" which is... the twist is NEXT TIME ON DOCTOR WHO! except most smart people dont wanna watch the next time cause spoilers.

[@technofilejr3401]

After reading some of Ncuti’s comments in the press, I’m out after episode 2. I have no desire to see him as the Doctor twerking. As a Black man that strikes me as cringe AF.

[@joshuajoshua2732]

Im not usually a negative person and i was hoping this episode was going to be great but sadly it wasn't this was just crap it's a soap opera in space this is not science fiction there were no villains, no one died it was a typical Moffat episode.

[@ftumschk]

How could this story possibly be construed as "soap opera"? If I want soap opera in my Doctor Who, I tend to reach for an RTD1 story.

[@R.senals_Arsenal]

You really expect so little from Sci-Fi/Fantasy huh? No one died? 2 people died before the credits! Another later on. How much death do you need to be entertained?

[@jollyrayda]

youtube.com/@joshuajoshua2732 Nobody dies??? Did you miss the 2 deaths that happen before we get the intro rolling???? Are you even watching the same show???

[@LauraGS564]

When will you be starting S4?