Boris on more arms for Ukraine & Westminster's 'Chinese spy' - The Week in 60 Minutes | SpectatorTV

[@nicholashoward7251]

Cindy Yu would be a great Bond girl

[@patrickjoneill5836]

How refreshing to hear someone calling out Greenpeace.

[@carlbyronrodgers]

Interview General Hodges, not a professor from Yale.

[@MladenAndrijasevic]

Indeed. Or Yuri Fedorov.

[@peterdockerty8077]

A more conservative show for a change, well done. Probably because of the flack you received for arranging a party at the Labour Party Conference, how very New Labour of the speccy. Speaking of New Labour it would seem Agent Forsyth is doing a great job as Sunak is dying, the tories are dying, the civil service is now a full blown Labour activist organisation. The NHS is goosed, waiting lists are huge, no housing being built, mass immigration is over a million per year and stopping the boats is a joke as we now have 25,000 landed to far this year, excess deaths are obviously now way worse than killed the elderly and infirm from Covid, the education sector is now full of labour activists, the so called culture wars are lost. Oh and well done Spectator for getting rid of 2 elected PMs in favour of James’s schoolmate who is useless

[@kieran4949]

Whats happened to James he seems to have left the fold?

[@peterdockerty8077]

@@kieran4949 James is now Sunak policy advisor at No10. Laugh my backside off as between Forsyth and Sunak they are killing the tory party. I see Fraser Nelson isn’t man enough to say Liz Truss was right after all and has had another did at her this morning. Nelson, Forsyth, Balls we’re all culpable in ousting 2 PMs. I always remember Fraser Nelson and James Forsyth touting the idea of an amnesty for all illegals migrants and guess what their New Labour Party are well on their way to doing it. I also remember Forsyth having a dig at Boris and saying no Pm will be able to survive if the NHS waiting list isn’t handled. Well guess what his mate Sunak has even failed at that too

[@nickscott6139]

He now works for Rishi Sunak @@kieran4949

[@tonysherwood9619]

Liberals really! Like a virus!

[@AndreiMuntean0]

@@kieran4949he’s literally left to advise Rishi Sunak

[@horacephistbump]

Freddy looks very hungover

[@Mateo-et3wl]

Part of the problem is bad lighting. Suprised they haven't taken care of that as it's an obvious problem with an easy fix

[@hannannah1uk]

Boris should stop banging the Ukraine war drums. Blessed are the peacemakers.

[@piushalg5041]

Cluster Munition is not illigal as this Yale professor claims. Neither the US nor Ukraine and Russia have signed the respective convention. Moreover Russia has been using these bombs in Ukraine. I wonder how this professor can make this false allegation whilst claiming to be an expert.

[@nickwalsworth7650]

Transporting them via signatories is illegal, implies condoning their trade.

[@pedazodetorpedo]

It's only illegal is it's enforceable. Who is going to enforce it? Sleepy Joe Biden?

[@harryaarrestad583]

This was very interesting !

[@philiplindley7384]

Can't say I've ever been paid after I've left a job?? Middle-class, first World problems??

[@markcoveryourassets]

I recall a half-joking, half-serious comment a friend and I shared about fifteen years ago, "Do you think Chen is a Chinese spy?" It was half-joking because he and his wife were the nicest people we knew. It was half-serious because he was a Chinese citizen working for a US technology firm AND it's been clear a long time that Chinese citizens or their families can easily be under threat if they don't serve their nation as demanded. Some years go by, and the Consulate in my city is shut down by the Feds because of wide-spread industrial espionage. In the 1990s "we" (including me) fell for this naive theory that we could "domesticate" China by including them in the world economy. Expensive lesson. Moyn is being completely ignorant. If your enemy is still fighting you, and you are still fighting him, the situation is fluid. Recently Ukraine has opened up a safer and larger shipping passage for itself and eastern Black Sea neighbors by using new weapons and new strategies. Additionally, they have forced the Russians off of a large set of gas production platforms in the middle of the Black Sea, and they successfully destroyed a Russian sub and significantly damaged a Russian cutter/frigate in dry dock well within Russian controlled territory. Russia will have to move its naval assets further away or find better methods of protecting and maintaining them. There has been other progress made as well. Being disappointed in Ukraine's summer-season counter-offensive in only the second year of the war and saying that nothing more will change on the ground is ridiculous for so many reasons. If the political dynamics, especially around the war, bring down Putin, new leadership may want to exit the war hastily and give up what Putin is grasping with his dying hands. The UK or other nations can walk away at their own peril, but the US signed an agreement to protect Ukraine from just this problem in 1991. The US's failure to redress encroachments early is both despicable and cowardly. How long will the war take? Russia and Ukraine will ultimately decide. I was reminded that the UK and allies did not have a major victory until El Alamein in '41 or '42; should have given up and avoided all those bombings, shouldn't they. How long would you fight to keep what's left of your homeland and take back what was stolen? If they want to fight, the least the "west" can provide weapons and training. The US needs to upgrade and restock, and testing weapons in actual combat provides valuable lessons. That's not turning Ukraine into guinea pigs either. It's their choice. If only the whales had not signed NDAs we would know what is harming them. I guess Greenpeace must have written the NDAs in Welsh. Save the whales, Greenpeace.

[@abatesnz]

Agreed. It seems Moyn was only asked on because he had a different position to BoJo's and was from the (far-) left. Reviews of his Liberalism Against Itself book make clear he has no principled rejection of Russian dictatorship. The state's role is police, justice and defence. Little wonder a lefty wants less spent on the legitimate fight against a vicious expansionist totalitarian and more spent on social welfare at home. (The El Alamein victory was won in November 1942, after about 18 days' fighting.)

[@liaminwales]

My dad once asked if a student was a spy, they went red and looked away. The thing is a lot of people are asked to do things for the home land, there not like James Bond or people we see in films. Just normal people who get asked to do things for the home land, maybe a mention of there funding/jobs back home or family as there asked.

[@alphabetaxenonzzzcat]

The Spectator is still pushing the same narrative on the Ukraine versus Russia conflict. Really disappointing.

[@michaelgilday]

Samuel Moyn seems to have a poor grasp of events in Ukraine and with a recent statement by a Russian General alluding that the invasion in Ukraine is just the beginning to retaking former eastern countries. Johnson is right Russia needs humiliating and Ukraine needs to retake Crimea and reverse Russian expansionism. The alternative is a war in Europe on a much larger scale.

[@douglasmilton2805]

Anthony Burgess??? Guy, surely 😅

[@Johnnybunt]

Jealousy seems to be Britain’s problem with China!!!!

[@MladenAndrijasevic]

I wish Samuel Moyn would speak Russian and listen to military expert Yuri Fedorov, and political analysts Igor Yakovenko, Abbas Gallyamov and Ekaterina Shulman. He would have gotten a somewhat more optimistic take on the possibility of Ukraine breaking the stalemate. I did manage to google an article by Yuri Fedorov in English in Novaya Gazeta, Europe, albeit from a month and a half ago, titled Stalemate or warm-up?

[@MKPoosh]

Moyn doesn't even know his own history i.e the BS he spewed about Afghanistan. He's useless.

[@sue.F]

Rather than evoking Chamberlain’s flawed appeasement policy, the war in Ukraine is more analogous to the entrenched positions of WWI. Indeed the frontline, despite the modern weaponry, looks remarkably similar to that horror.

[@williamvorkosigan5151]

But they did buy your silence when you signed the NDA.

[@TomFPaton]

Bizarre choice to consult a legal academic about the Ukraine war. All the generals I've heard (you know, the guys who actually know a bit about fighting wars), especially those who have visited Ukraine, speak in glowing terms about the excellence of Ukrainian military skill, and the utter determination of the Ukrainians to win. The fact that Moyn chose to infer their prospects from the fate of the fractious rabble of tribal warlords that goes by the name of Afghanistan should have told the Speccie to bin this one. Boris is right - unless Putin is beaten, and beaten soundly, he will continue to menace his neighbours, and China will draw dangerous conclusions about Western resolve. Ukrainian blood is being shed on our behalf - they should be given everything they need to finish the job.

[@anglodoomer5995]

Boris doing his new job doing PR for weapons companies

[@quentinnewark2745]

Weapons important things. They keep you safe.

[@Smelly_Minge]

@@quentinnewark2745 We should probably keep our own then instead of giving them away, just in case.. Chyna! etc..

[@quentinnewark2745]

@@Smelly_Minge yes… Although I think any arms-manufacturing nation always sells second/third level weapons, holds back the best stuff. Whole British army is a single US army corps. Any large conflict is down to them, and their incredible tech.

[@davidsayer9606]

Boris is right Sam is wrong.

[@NSGca]

Time for you to do a deep dive on the history since the Soviet Union broke up. Try reading for once!

[@pedazodetorpedo]

Samuel Moyn poorly expressed (or misunderstood) his Churchill analogy. Britain did not enter the war because of Germany's threat to our shores, but because they invaded Poland. Whilst the UK is not by treaty a guarantor of Ukraine's territorial integrity, our government has as much right to intervene as Russia does to invade. I fail to grasp what vague point he is trying to make with respect to Churchill and the Nazis.

[@AdnamsBrewery]

After Maria Miller’s alleged role in the MP expenses scandal I assume she’s now converted to supporting more honourable causes.

[@johnmoorefilm]

“war is too important to be left to the (armchair) generals…”

[@DiamondBlaze221]

Boris is a little like Tony Blair.

[@pedazodetorpedo]

Re NDAs, the Tory faithful will hate this but the only way to protect yourself is to join a union who will provide legal representation in the case of employment dispute. I say this as a conservative voter, but my partner was wrongfully dismissed and had to pay her own legal fees, ended up with a paltry 5k compensation for 6 months of unemployment and a lower salary in her new job. I am now a member of Unite although I never vote Labour. This is to protect my livelihood because HR managers are incompetent and corrupt in my experience.

[@irenelancaster3242]

Superb final item. This situation happened to me and now I would challenge the NDA - no question.

[@hugor1338]

Why did you sign an NDA - was it because you accepted payment for doing so? Your choice?

[@jimbomac555]

The NDA woman was not very balanced, didn’t answer a direct question on paying back the money (the answer is don’t take the money in the first place if you want to speak) and then seemed to assume all accusations are legitimate. If there is someone balanced on that side of the debate it’s better to get them on instead.

[@irenelancaster3242]

Richard Dearlove excellent -a mine of information, but Cindy Yu somewhat ambivalent and this isn’t the first time

[@pedazodetorpedo]

She was not ambivalent at all. She travelled to Taiwan recently and interviewed one of the Tianamen protest leaders.

[@hezkyden]

Freddie Gray looks and sounds if he slept in his office after a bender. A brush to his hair would help as well as buttoning up his shirt and straightening his tie properly.

[@wor53lg50]

Eton mess...

[@paulamarsh1]

Not to do with this video, but just wondered if Douglas Murray has done / would do a critique of The Dawn of Everything (Graeber & Wengrow) ?

[@wor53lg50]

Isnt it about time we started creating, training and equipping a home guard here??,a bit like dads army!!!,but only on steroids though??......and i dont mean with those who have no loyalties to the land either...

[@Lashb1ade]

Why did you bring a Russian shill to debate? Guy clearly had nothing to say.

[@Smelly_Minge]

Why is nobody trying to broker some kind of peace deal compromise between the two??

[@Lashb1ade]

@@Smelly_Minge Because Putin's peace condition is Ukraine's surrender. He hasn't given any indication of anything else. Say, if Texas was occupied by China, would you be calling for a peace deal compromise?

[@wor53lg50]

"Oy vey" !!!, im feckin sick of hearing rather reading that now, what does it actually mean anyhow??...

[@Jaysonbc1234]

Money Laundering

[@christopherbrookfield4785]

Bring back national service, I say. It was good enough for me, in my day. Plus, The Beatles. Well, one half of them, anyway. That has surely got to better than a slap around the face with a dead whale. I think it must be time for my pills, and a good shot of Rosie Dixon, Night Nurse. Cindy Yu is more than welcome to spy on me, any old time she likes. ❤🎉🎉

[@wor53lg50]

Hehehe!!!, ah, i like it? You ole bugger you...

[@Mark_Dyer1]

FREDDY: I used to love my SPECTATOR dropping through my letter-box each week; and you still have the best Editorial and Writing team by far. BUT, when JOHNSON happened, and chose to go down the Globalist-Communist route in 2020, you were decidedly uncritical and did not even perceive the Trojan Horse which that man represented within the Conservative Party. Alexander Johnson is to the Conservative Party what +Justin of Welby is to the Church of England. Their tasks accomplished, these two lizards can now slither back under the rocks. The SPECTATOR is just too loyally 'Tory' for me to wish to re-subscribe: and you HAVE been making some generous offers of late. But I suspect the time for good journalism was from 2020 onwards: and that is just when journalists decided to back the Globalist-Communists, and suppress all contradictory narratives. Big mistake! Huge! Massive! Irrecoverable! "His offence pre-dates the legislation: so it may not be possible to prosecute him!" [Sir Richard Dearlove 13:00]. We need to remember that statement when the Globalist-Communists, led by SUNAK, come for our homes and money. You cannot - in English or Welsh Law - make illegal, that which was legal five minutes ago.

[@Listenerandlearner870]

Who is this US person ?

[@wor53lg50]

Thats been the story of our lives, ever since ww2 im affraid, i tend to ask that question alot, but more than usual just recently...typical yanks..

[@nickwalsworth7650]

War is a lucrative vehicle for liquidating sovereign wealth (flashback to the Anglo American debt repayments]. Bobo (with no reverse gear or conscience) wants more of the action. - acting rightfully and impartially for the sake of the citizens and the society for the Establishment,

[@hezkyden]

Is Samuel Moyn an American facsimile of Gareth Southgate?

[@michaelgibson7466]

What's in it for Boris?

[@johnintheuk00]

Either; a) wants to appear presidential so that when Rishi loses the next election, he can sweep back to leading the Tory party, or, b) money

[@Smelly_Minge]

@@johnintheuk00 b

[@wor53lg50]

Or both...

[@brianholmes3547]

The Russian empire needs to end and this is a golden opportunity to deplete Russia and cause its demise.

[@williamvorkosigan5151]

Ukraine can not win against Russia. Pressure should be put on both Russia and Ukraine to come to terms. Denuding our armouries to aid a very corrupt Ukraine is not in our interest. Quite shocking to discover that they were given excellent first aid kits for their soldiers. They went on to sell them and give their soldiers highly inferior Chinese medical kits. Like Iraq and Afghanistan. I suspect that some influential people are making a great deal of money, causing us to go on with supporting irrational conflicts. We had no business in Iraq. We achieved all we were going to achieve in Afghanistan within 6 weeks of being there. Everything after than was wasted blood and treasure.

[@wor53lg50]

Maybe it time for another euro nation, thats in close proximity and undoubtedly be under the possibilities of them being next should maybe step up to the plate, after all why let your opponent stand up properly and gather their composiour when already wobling in their knees?...

[@wor53lg50]

And political tribune that could have been saved and not squandered ready for a more deserving event further on down the line, now PC and woke as sort of made em jumpy as in boo to a goose jumpy in case they hurt its feelings, thats what happens when the education system is geared up into turning out idealogical retards instead?!....that goes for both for higher or lower class systems..... In fact the ones who were the naughty young tearaways and chose to miss it completely would be the only ones a nation could depend on.. Well in the last 10 year at least...

[@williamvorkosigan5151]

@@wor53lg50 Either Russia wins or Putin dies. He will not stop until he has something, anything, he can claim as victory. Ukraine cares less for it's soldiers lives than we do. They sold the First Aid kits that the west sent them. After a year of fighting, they still have no effective casualty clearing system. Many of their soldiers die for lack of medical care, from the point of injury using Chinese Medical Kits. To failure to effectively evacuate their casualties to a field aid post in a timely manner.

[@Minnienotamouse1]

Sorry You have completely lost me ... Who is this Samuel Moyn ... A prof at Yale in Law and history? What is his connection to Ukraine and what we give them ... has he set foot in Ukraine, been in a war room, privvy to any strategy talks, sat in a trench with a gun? Pals with Zelensky ? He sounds like a Russian appeaser. He certainly had no insights or solutions or understands this war at all Hes so far removed from our country, our exPM, the war and military experience - he has no place on this podcast ... why not someone closer to the ZERO lines huh?? Disappointing and a waste of space for this very important subject

[@MegaFarah78]

ha ha ha what a propaganda coming form a mouthpiece of Anglo Saxon

[@wor53lg50]

OY VEY!!, or seax will be starting to get sharpened..... How much you think the Anglo's going to take before they turn full on viking and beserk modus operandi ...

[@joshuapaul2022]

Meanwhile new Ukrainian defense minister Rustem Umierov wants to officially enlist 16-year-olds, obviously Zelenskyy offensive was so successful that official forced conscription of disabled and people with AIDS and hepatitis wasn't enough. WaPo is reporting that yet another Zelenskyy debacle caused bitter recriminations on Capitol Hill: "The bleak outlook, briefed to some Republicans and Democrats on Capitol Hill, has already prompted a blame game inside closed-door meetings" . Ukrainian army in its current dismal state proved to be completely impotent. It's the result of a successful implementation of an attrition strategy.

[@commonwunder]

The US ( their deep state bureaucrats ) have told the Ultra Rightwing Ukrainian nationalists... take 'back' as much land as possible, and then we'll start up peace negotiations. You can't negotiate from a weak position with the Russians. They'll just take everything. So the Ukrainian Nationalists are currently scaring the Russians with the 'dreaded' prospect... that they'll take back Crimea. Which would be curtains for the Russian regime, if it happened. The rest of the 'talk' by Boris etc... is just belligerent rhetoric. In order to make the plan seem authentic. That the West is in it for the long haul. Which it isn't ...and nor are the nationalists. So that's the importance of the this current offensive and especially... why the Ukrainian nationalists are concentrating their assaults on Crimea.

[@jamesgill6213]

Freddy seem to think wales dying is funny ............

[@michaelgibson7466]

No he doesn't!

[@johnwebster6360]

Mr Moyn so it's best we let Putin win. Bet your glad your not going to be left to the Russians mercy.

[@williamvorkosigan5151]

Ukraine: What an absurd argument. "What lessons will China draw with regard Taiwan, if we don't [entirely empty out our armouries of weapons and ammunition]"? Would that lesson by that we weren't so stupid and we still have some weapons and ammunition left with which to go to the defence of Taiwan? Taiwan being by far be the greatest loss to the west. Also, the reason Ukrainian soldiers have bad first aid kits is because their corrupt government sold the ones the west sent them and replaced them with cheap, non functional ones from China. Ukrainian's care for wounded soldiers is dire and that is entirely due to their organisational priorities.

[@gitfoad8032]

My god, is Johnson a selling point? - a .... 'man', a liar, who should be deprived, in my opinion, of simple oxygen - replaced with the copper's-jacket of mendacity. ....

[@guff9567]

What kind of name is "Yu" FFS?

[@douglasmilton2805]

A Chinese name. And as for “guff”… puh-leaze.

[@guff9567]

@@douglasmilton2805 more secret CCP assassin's in our midst. Whatever happened to Brexit

[@jamessmith1652]

What's your point?

[@guff9567]

@@jamessmith1652 Sounds silly like "goo" or "poo", no?

[@jamessmith1652]

@@guff9567Rosie sounds like a chicken dish in Chinese (I googled it, I don't speak Chinese). Completely different languages, one expects some coincidences.