I Tried Magic Drawing Pad From XPPen

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[@mdfm28]

Huion but also made android tablet but it turns out to be generic tablet with Huion brand slapped on it and it doesn't have any basic Huion tech. It was about to be released and this little guy came, great pen tech with good enough process power. Huion tab was dead in the water.

[@neolordie]

This is also a tablet sold as a non xp pen model, they just collaborated for the pen tech

[@bestboisoupsoup]

@@neolordie iirc this tablet is derived from a white label tcl nxtpaper tablet, hence the matte finish by default

[@Trid3nt861]

Im actually quite impressed by XP-Pen

[@ray-cedavis2961]

I would actually B a lot more interested in this tablet if it were 16” or even 15” inches in screen size. I do like how U demonstrated its additional use w/ the superDisplay app. I dislike the included pen but just as U mentioned U can use that XP Pen Pro 3.0 pen on this “BUT” only one end will work & only one button will work. Just like Huion, historically most of their display pens R not largely cross compatible among their multiple products. But I hafta give ‘em credit cuz they’ve come a long way in the short span of their company’s existence. I look forward to when they’ll become a more dependable brand on a consistent level.

[@richardconstable5086]

Great review Boro. Will be looking for some Wacom alternatives to connect to my PC soon. Artists finally getting some broader options 👍

[@neshiah4747]

Brad Colbow has done a lot of tablet-for-artists reviews on his channel, if that helps 🙏🏼

[@verdedoodleduck]

Thanks for the thorough review. I see the green shades in the video pretty easily. I think I would write this off just because of that - I rely on a lot of color nuance to get the drawing results I want so that would throw me off for sure. As darkercry points out, it might be the matte coating - I would also be interested in seeing if there's another option that doesn't have the tint you showed us. Maybe I missed it but does it integrate file storage better than other tablets with google drive and ondrive easily (probably 'no')? I can't tolerate the storage method of the tablets (enough of a hassle to keep files in sync that I rarely use it except to occasionally demonstrate how to use drawing software.)

[@user-re6me1ku8w]

Hi, thanks for the review. You can adjust the color of the tablet screen in the system settings. You can calibrate it to your liking.

[@BoroCG]

Hi, thank you! That sounds incredible for a tablet, could you specify where I can find these calibration settings? Thing is, I've looked into it several times, and all I could find were the colorblind profiles, as well as NXTVISION page with a few switches to enable enhancements for images, videos and games, but nothing that would allow me to specifically calibrate display colors to my liking. I may be blind though, so please share more info on this!

[@user-re6me1ku8w]

@@BoroCG Oh, sorry, I thought this feature was in any android device, but it could be that there is a software shell that hides some features. Maybe you can try installing third party apps or contact the developers and ask them how to do it. It's a pity, but I don't have any practical skill to customize the screen on a tablet.

[@DarkerCry]

the green tint is probably from the matte coating. Wouldn't be surprised. Personally, if they had a gloss version I'd prefer that, blacks look better on gloss. Even the newest Ipad matte stuff can't get the blacks as deep as a regular gloss screen, and I like a smooth drawing surface as well. Tablet does look great though, i really want to use it for Nomad.

[@dracozain1023]

Gotta buy that asap 💯

[@jamesbullo]

On the website it lists EMR tech for the pen. Usually that means any EMR type of pen/stylus will work. I'd be curious to find out for sure.

[@Minsetti]

No it doesn't mean that. Every company has their own EMR tech which are basically clones of Wacom EMR styluses but not directly compatible. And different models from one company are probably still not compatible with each other.

[@AndrewMaksymBrainNectar]

Nice!

[@sculptor8752]

Thanks, do you know if you can run zbrsuh on it?

[@DomitriCervantes]

Can I ask what is your canvas size? I also use infinite painter but it starts lagging after a while and I don't have that many layers, this is my first drawing tablet and I use 2010x2550 px (6.70x8.50 in) at 300 dpi, and supposedly it can manage 240 layers at that resolution, but in less than 20 it starts lagging

[@EleosAnim]

the swipe down thing i suggest putting the pen further away from the screen/tablet.

[@CarrotKing269]

oh my gosh that opening sequence is actually gonna give me nightmares

[@aureasurla5738]

can you connect it from a computer for addition drawing software?

[@jimez86]

Wait was there a link that I'm not seeing?

[@someuser4166]

wacom did this 10 years ago with the cintiq companion hybrid and i think they should do that here as well (to give it the edge over just any other Samsung tablet with an s pen); they should allow you to plug it into a PC and use it like a cintiq to control the PC.

[@BoroCG]

I always hope a Thunderbolt/DP-enabled Type-C port become a standard thing in these bigger tablets. That would be so cool.

[@sloppynyuszi]

I agree. I know there are round about ways of doing this, but it’s not the same. I had a companion and it was awesome that it plugged into my Mac and it was its own thing when plugged out. To be fair the Mobile Studio Pro was the same, did its own thing and plugged into my Mac. Sadly those Wacom tablets were way too chunky, and the iPads so far seem to lag way too much in Sidecar. I do think a trick was missed here.

[@DrawnToFantasyBertross]

I have both this and the newer xppen artist pro 2 16” and the pen works great on this screen.

[@breeze9248]

yeah same. can confirm

[@CrisCraig]

ouch. so still it has not been addressed. i thought they will fix through software updates (regarding the lack of tilt support)

[@huenson2497]

What is sculpting like on this tablet? For example sculpting with nomad sculpt.

[@sefrautiq]

Yeah, tilt support is definitely a bummer, especially when all my brushes do have tilt support. I would feel kinda crippled if I would be using this tablet

[@BoroCG]

The funny thing is, on Samsung there's tilt support, but it's pretty hard to use to its full potential because of the fat front of the pen surrounding the tip. The only stylus that lets you really tilt is the Apple Pencil, and probably its clones. PC tablet pens are okay, but the shape still doesn't go as far as Pencil

[@deadsm]

The Spen Pro is supposedly better at tilting as it has an apple pencil-like tip. Is it better than the Staedtler Norris digital or the Wacon One Gen 2 pen? 🤔 I have the latter two, and they are so much better than the default. I haven't gotten the Spen Pro yet, but I will get one when I find it cheaper than retail.

[@Gotblade]

It looked like Krita was on there. How well does that work if that's what it was?

[@deadsm]

Krita for android works well but doesn't really have good UX with smaller screens or touch. Chances are if you like it on a desktop you will like it on Android, though, as it is basically the exact same.

[@ezeddrawer]

Looks portable, I could take it to school.

[@brian_hermelijn]

I really wish this had Tilt support... I was reading it and saw there is no tilt support. Was turned off by that. Otherwise I would have been sold to buy this. But overall great review.

[@deadsm]

I actually can not believe this. If this is for digital artists, it needed to have tilt and an accurate color profile at least. They have to have a plan to let you buy a pen with it later, right?

[@hihellothere9569]

​@@deadsmI'd say casual digital artists..like the iPad market

[@MrGhostTheBigRoast]

i think i saw a ipad demo recently that also did not have tilt support and it blew my mind. why?? we had tilt support in tabs a decade ago, i refuse to believe its computationally extra intensive, so why are modern hardware makers getting rid of tilt support wtf, its one of the things i check before buying a drawing tablet.

[@hihellothere9569]

@@MrGhostTheBigRoast I'd say that tilt support comes at a cost of battery and or ip protection

[@mocko3116]

Tilt support？I only know wacom /Samsung S-Pen & ipencil can do that. And I have try, really good tilt.

[@solrax6026]

I like competition but just falls alittle short. For the price you can get an older model ipad pro. This is a first great step n if I wasn't going to pick a ipad I would probably pick xpen. I think they need to work on their own OS or software instead of android or change android abit more to make it their own. If I were to want to get just an xp pen tablet I would maybe choose this so I can have wireless cintiq like workflow n use my laptop. This is so I can use apps like zbrush and blender. Its cool tho and I want to see more innovation. Come on xp pen. U can do it

[@joebobbobby9450]

I got mine directly from xppen when it first came out and it came with some seriously bad rainbow noise. The tablet also felt terrible to use with my fingers because it quite literally was sanding away my skin. Also, this was sourced from TCL which charged 200 usd less for it when it first came out a few years ago. I don't like knowing that I paid more for some branding and half-integrated xppen drivers (get this, the sourced device had tilt sensitivity integration, and they have released a newer device since this one (alongside a different pen))... I don't want to be a downer but I bet their "new case" is just gonna be the one the company they sourced the tablet from came with.

[@flow1194]

what other company is it sourced from?

[@Minsetti]

@@flow1194 TCL NXTPAPER 12 Pro

[@xenanimates3188]

What other company? Ugee?

[@Michael_Lak]

You used your fingers lol telling us all we need to know about your "opinion"

[@joebobbobby9450]

@@Michael_Lak Sorry babes, there's a reason it's a tablet? I'm not gonna use my pen to scroll through a webnovel or read an e-book?

[@papahuge]

what tablet pen combo has the lowest latency/lag when drawing?

[@Sluwaard]

5:25 charming

[@danielaubert5608]

What about the cursor offset problem? Did they fix it? And if you use the pro pen from xppen, does it support tilt?

[@wongvunyu8461]

They fixed it by adding a cursor offset in the system setting some time ago, and no tilt support- but I'm Loving it after 2 months using it tho

[@NopeNaw]

@@wongvunyu8461 Ooh, that's nice. The cursor offset was the one thing holding me back from getting one. I've been looking for updates on the issue, but haven't seen any. Was it just silently added with a system update, or is there a announcement for it somewhere?

[@Minsetti]

@@NopeNaw They casually announced the fix in an answer to a question about the cursor offset on Q&A section at MDP product site somewhere around april I think.

[@Figuremakr]

Thankyou! IMHO Infinite Painter is even better on Android aka more customization. Slava Ukraini

[@marcfreiznel3090]

1:43 no there is no screen protector on the tablet, the site sells them for this reason. 6:28 it is logical that the line is not bigger when you tilt the stylus to the line, it is not the same technology at XP PEN it is the pressure / detection system of the induction system, and circulate as much information by induction is problematic, whereas an apple pencil for example has an independent battery a tip suitable at tracing lines up to inclination 11:48 I saw on other French channels that the colors are indeed not faithful if you do not deactivate a color optimization option in the settings.

[@mocko3116]

As I know, XP-Pen that brand was sold for a China company at a couple years ago.

[@sakyuuga]

Is the chipset powerful enough to handle animation in csp ex?

[@yzxz9012]

Better buy and iPad and apple pencil

[@-The-Golden-God-]

I wish there was an Android version of Fresco. It would make an Android tablet an easy purchase for me. I loathe Apple, so I'm basically left with the very limited options available in the Window's 11 Tablet market.

[@normalwolf7733]

does it have a hdmi out?. so it can be connected to a monitor independently?

[@SleepiestSoL]

Stand alone drawing tablets don't connect to anything accept a charger

[@normalwolf7733]

@@SleepiestSoL counterpoint samsung dex on tablet

[@Rubbe87]

Never used tilt.

[@i-asiahfrazier6812]

Just got mine today and the pen doesn't work 🙃 Tried changing the nib and it still doesn't work idk what's up

[@Rubbe87]

Is it better then a 2018 ipad 6th generation?

[@yzxz9012]

but this is way expensive than iPad 6, you can buy a better iPad for the price

[@rafaelramires5883]

I realy want this tablet so bad! Also, do you have any videos about Android apps?

[@yzxz9012]

You would be better buying an iPad 9 or 10 and prob cheaper too

[@autumnbrushtail]

I have an iPad Air coming from a Galaxy Tab S3. I've found myself very disappointed by the choice of apps available ironically. I came to eventually start disliking the way Infinite Painter felt for my needs personally and HiPaint is SIGNIFICANTLY behind update-wise on the iOS version. (There are features I personally requested that were added to the Android version and they are completely absent in the iOS version). I can't be bothered to subscribe to CSP and I'm starting to really feel the lack of Krita and Drawpile on iOS too, moreso Krita of course. (Before you reply about it, I've already tried Procreate, I kinda hate that too. Feels pretty awful to use honestly)

[@JohnWesleyDavison]

Maybe I missed it, but what is the battery life?

[@KoalaTulip47]

Website says 13 hours

[@eddyalvaross2195]

This tablet is also compatible with the X3 Pro pen.

[@18Aleziita]

For the same price I'll go for the Huawei matepad 11.5 The pencil is better and is a tablet with full potential to do other stuff I use it for my school but has a decent version of Procreate

[@marcins5584]

interesting

[@JamesO512]

Without tilt, it's a no go for me.

[@shroomcraftgames]

i almost dont understand this device, and who it is for, my best guess is it being half the price of an iPad its aiming for people who cant afford an ipad

[@asimian8500]

A used iPad (not Pro) is a better deal as any regular 6th Gen or later iPad supports the Apple Pencil. Grab Procreate or Art Studio Pro or Clip Studio and create art.

[@2ndeaster]

​@@asimian8500 I am thinking of picking up used Ipad which one do you think would be good for it?

[@Mystic_Dragon_Art]

That's because Boros was comparing it to an iPad Pro but he should have been comparing it to a standard iPad given the Magic Pad's price. It's for people who want an entry level tablet but want a 12 inch screen and don't want to spend an extra $120 for the stylus. You also don't have to pay $2000 for a matte screen here. Apple just does not have an entry level tablet for artists. So that's who this is for.

[@Mystic_Dragon_Art]

@@asimian8500 A used iPad that isn't a Pro version won't have a 12 inch screen. Or even an 11 inch screen.

[@hime-senpai5938]

I like Android and clip studio, this is why I bought this one

[@lilcalico8363]

Hopefully this one doesn't break within a month...

[@hime-senpai5938]

XP pen is a good brand, so far I haven't seen anyone complaining about it, and when it comes to pen displays, I've been using one of them for over 2 years

[@lilcalico8363]

@hime-senpai5938 Maybe I just have some very unfortunate luck then. Either way it definitely was not a very good introduction to the brand at all >

[@yzxz9012]

Buy iPad instead they outsource an exitung tablet and put a week pen and charge extra

[@hime-senpai5938]

@@yzxz9012 they are charging the same price, 500 dollars

[@brylidan]

sadly android isnt that great for drawing. unless someone decides to completely modify the os

[@blackjam2683]

XPPen hook me up too! Q_ Q

[@deadsm]

Please, if you are considering buying this for digital art, don't! This 12.2' tablet retails for $500 US and doesn't have tilt support. You can get a new Samsung S8U 14.6' for $650 US directly from Samsung. The S8U/S9U is the best portable tablet that isn't the newest iPad as it supports the Wacom One pen with two buttons at 120hz, OLED. That pen is the closest thing to a full-fledged Cintiq pen you can get now. It has excellent stabilization, tilt, pressure, and support for grips, and it doesn't even need to charge. It blows the old apple pencil out of the water but, sadly, doesn't have barrel roll support like the newest apple pencil. Samsung's non-ultra tablets still support the pen but ditch the better screen for much cheaper. Also, used versions are often on sale. Don't worry about the s9, as the only notable change is the processor. Boro did an excellent job on this review, and if you like the comments about the software, don't worry. Android tablets can use great apps like Infinite Painter, Super Display, and Clip Studio Paint.

[@BoroCG]

Those are good points actually! I think Magic Drawing Pad will drop in price sometime soon to compete better with this kind of options. S8 Ultra was originally $1000, so yeah

[@deadsm]

@BoroCG So true. Unless XPPen wants this to stay expensive because of its tech, it should drop in price, especially if a newer version comes out, like what happened with Samsung. I can imagine a lower price, like $350, could be somewhat attractive, but with the lack of tilt, I don't even know if I could recommend it to someone getting into digital art. I hope XPPen comes back with a second version or fixes the main issues with the software, as it's weird that you can use the higher-end pen without the tilt. Thank you for being one of the content creators who are willing to cover things outside of the iPad. Digital art on the go has enormous potential to be better than the traditional desktop in many ways, and it gets better all the time. It's always cool to see artists who have experience with many different workflows so that you can give more informed pros and cons.

[@Rubbe87]

Why is it $1979 in my country?

[@yzxz9012]

For this money you get the basic ipad 9 or 10 with apple pencile cheaper than this tablet price😂😂 and everything is bette

[@patek2385]

It's not a good drawing tablet, better to check out is Lenovo Tab Pro 11 with Pencil Gen 3 or just Apple Tablet.

[@Uterr]

So android tablets are still poo poo for art, thanx!

[@Mystic_Dragon_Art]

XP Pen is still new at tablets. You'd have to compare it to a Samsung tablet at the same price point. The XP Pen Magic Tablet is only directly comparable to the basic iPad given it's price and at that price point it's not bad. One could argue that the Samsung Galaxy Tab 9FE+ is better depending on how much one values the matte screen of the Magic Tablet. Both are better for artists than the basic iPad as long as you don't need to use Procreate. Apple literally does not have an entry level tablet for artists. It has an entry level tablet for students and other note takers. But not artists. Apple could give us a 12" screen under $600 and include the pen easily. They just choose not to. Not everyone wants to pay a premium for fancy features they will never use. Is Apple better than Android? Absolutely. Do they give you better bang for your buck than Android? Not even remotely. Apple's real advantage with artists is its app ecosystem. Specifically Procreate. Not the hardware it's running on. A high end Samsung tablet and an Apple Pro are pretty comparable when it comes to the hardware itself. But even on the software side Android has come a long way the last couple of years. If you only care about illustration and don't care about Procreate then you'll be good to go on Android. It's the other creative fields where Android suffers.

[@inkster147]

Impressive tablet...although one correction...8 gb ram is plenty for not just 40 layers but 100s of layers. Ram being a limited factor for the number of layers is a bullshit propaganda peddled by Apple and its pet Procreate to upsale costlier and overpriced ipads. With my tab s7 fe base model with 4 gb ram, ive used 100s of layers in CSP without any issues. Infinite painter does try to ape procreate in this regard though.

[@yzxz9012]

Procreate works different all the layers count as there are full drawn so that's why this limitatin and the app working so smoothly

[@drinkwoter]

Bro wasn’t painting and art were dead? Why you painting and making money off of it? 😂

[@BoroCG]

Lol what :D All I said back then was that digital painting on its own doesn't have the big impact in society - the way traditional art used to have, or any other modern art form has, like film, games and music. Regular people get excited about a new music album, no one gets excited about a new digital painting. I still think that's true, but it doesn't mean digital painting is not needed as a form of craft

[@drinkwoter]

@@BoroCG really sure no one gets excited for new digital painting? i know plenty of regular people who do actually and they pay for it in different ways. there are just lot more people with lot more interests nowdays doesnt mean one thing is forgotten , guess 0 regular people were amazed by ruan jia's work