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@Kirkthar
@Kirkthar 4 жыл бұрын
I think Open the armory is a better option than the Stonehewer Giant, and a budget option to Steelshaper's Gift plus you can search an aura.
@nickfitzpatrick5878
@nickfitzpatrick5878 4 жыл бұрын
Its also got reprinted in Commander legends
@zoltanwolfe1260
@zoltanwolfe1260 4 жыл бұрын
This is the right opinion
@michaelmaurath109
@michaelmaurath109 4 жыл бұрын
It comes in the deck.
@jakeelephant006
@jakeelephant006 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelmaurath109 Open the Armory does not come in the precon.
@Meanshadows
@Meanshadows 4 жыл бұрын
Drives me nuts they said stonehewer over open the armory.
@Zorous
@Zorous 4 жыл бұрын
Best upgrade guide: Step 1: take out 3 random cards Step 2: put in Helm, Sword, and Shield of Kaldra Step 3: Lose to Crim
@159RaMa159
@159RaMa159 4 жыл бұрын
Decksperado...
@AhranMaoDante
@AhranMaoDante 4 жыл бұрын
LMFAO. Pretty much.
@johanandersson8252
@johanandersson8252 4 жыл бұрын
And Naya Panorama
@nicholasrolo886
@nicholasrolo886 4 жыл бұрын
You have to remove sol ring and add Hedron archive
@johanandersson8252
@johanandersson8252 4 жыл бұрын
@@nicholasrolo886 Hedron Archive
@10JudgeP
@10JudgeP 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sure you guys are aware of this by now but these decks are confirmed to have been designed prior to the zendikar ones, so the zendikar ones being better is a good sign of progressive development, not, what some people seem to think, a decline in the quality
@TrainmasterGT
@TrainmasterGT 4 жыл бұрын
Well that's good to know! Thanks for sharing!
@trowawayacc
@trowawayacc 4 жыл бұрын
Did not know, where is your source?
@gypsieking3280
@gypsieking3280 4 жыл бұрын
Gavin's podcast did confirm this. I just hope they dont pull a wizards and realize they can still give us less and know people will still buy.
@Tupiaz
@Tupiaz 4 жыл бұрын
@@gypsieking3280 Easy solution don't buy this deck.
@gypsieking3280
@gypsieking3280 4 жыл бұрын
@@Tupiaz true, I haven't. I have most of the reprints anyway but I have long ago learned my own voting with my wallet has little effect as MTG is big business and I am but a tiny cog.
@ptodd5373
@ptodd5373 4 жыл бұрын
Just a reminder that the Commander legends precons were actually designed first so if it seems like they took a step backwards they really didn't.
@maddux-cs
@maddux-cs 3 жыл бұрын
could i play a commander with a pre-built like this?
@ptodd5373
@ptodd5373 3 жыл бұрын
@@maddux-cs yes the precon commander decks are a great place to start playing commander. And the cheap set decks they have released recently are great. I would say get either the blue/black rogue deck. Or one of the 2 that came out with Kaldheim set.
@Speetlebeetle
@Speetlebeetle 4 жыл бұрын
People are seriously sleeping on this guy. He’s super good, the Trample is insanely good on a Voltron commander too. I love him!
@caseywellington4761
@caseywellington4761 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, but the deck isn't good
@Rabid_Wombat
@Rabid_Wombat 4 жыл бұрын
We had a guy playing this precon out of the box against our decks and it held it's own. We suck lol
@dedpoptart
@dedpoptart 3 жыл бұрын
Just bought this deck and it is pretty mean for the cost.
@ivanch2012
@ivanch2012 4 жыл бұрын
I just bought that deck and it is incredibly fast and awesome
@lexiss1870
@lexiss1870 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah it was a pretty awesome deck.
@10JudgeP
@10JudgeP 4 жыл бұрын
Flickerwisp is to move auras, still not great but yeah
@Puffuel
@Puffuel 4 жыл бұрын
bump
@therealax6
@therealax6 4 жыл бұрын
But how would it do that? When the creature is flickered, the auras all go to the graveyard. Is there some interaction I'm missing?
@felipeakira9568
@felipeakira9568 4 жыл бұрын
@@therealax6 You Flicker the aura, the rules then determine that the player who owns it gets to choose which creature it enchants back.
@therealax6
@therealax6 4 жыл бұрын
@@felipeakira9568 Oh, right, it can blink any permanent. For some reason I had it stuck in my mind that it had to blink a creature. Thanks!
@10JudgeP
@10JudgeP 4 жыл бұрын
@@therealax6 Yes it can target the aura not the creature
@evanelliott8231
@evanelliott8231 4 жыл бұрын
I want a Ultr-Pro ad where you shuffle your own decks on camera so we see the sweet shuffle feel in action.
@Merc89PSU
@Merc89PSU 4 жыл бұрын
LOL 🤣
@DESoul4021
@DESoul4021 4 жыл бұрын
instead of stonehewer giant, put in "Open the Armory".
@Balooh
@Balooh 4 жыл бұрын
For sure. 2 mana sorcery to get an Aura or equipment makes it faster and more flexible. I use it in all my decks that rely on equipment.
@Speetlebeetle
@Speetlebeetle 4 жыл бұрын
@Servbot 40 of course if you have 3 targets you really want then a cheap tutor to get 1/3 of great for the deck
@memelorddavid2938
@memelorddavid2938 4 жыл бұрын
i feel stonehewer giant is perfect actually, the deck doesn't have a lot of creatures anyways but open the armory is still great, id want at least 5 kind of tutors.
@crhisleon12
@crhisleon12 4 жыл бұрын
I was going to comment that too. They missed that one hard, its 2$.
@tee918
@tee918 4 жыл бұрын
They should be playing all tutors possible
@nik700
@nik700 4 жыл бұрын
It's nice that Boros is having a lot of good commanders that are synergistic with each other. Equipments are still a niche deck building restriction, but if you put Wyleth, Akiri, Sram and Reyav together the deck feels very coherent and one single swing gives you so much value. Also, am I the only one thinking on building Wyleth with an Aura theme?
@Iam_SHODAN
@Iam_SHODAN 4 жыл бұрын
That's what I went with too. Being able to swing every turn and draw like 6-7 cards is awesome.
@thedanath
@thedanath 4 жыл бұрын
the big downside to auras is they can be super vulnerable to removal unless your running Open the Vaults, Replenish or Retether
@chriso4529
@chriso4529 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you on the boros thing. I know that most people hate on boros for being narrowly a combat focused color combination. But I actually like that its sticking to its flavor/keeping its identity.
@Tupiaz
@Tupiaz 4 жыл бұрын
@@chriso4529 You can easily keep it boros and make other decks. Make a commander which gives other creatures myriad. That way you have a change at making a go wide strategy.
@nik700
@nik700 4 жыл бұрын
@@chriso4529 Yeah, I don't care about Boros being super combat focused, but if that's the case then we need more efficiency. The thing that bothers me the most is that I can't put Feather in my Winota deck, this trend of commanders in the same vein helps, maybe Akiri isn't top tier but with all this pieces together it becomes better
@maximiliangunther9597
@maximiliangunther9597 4 жыл бұрын
Word of seizing can grab a planeswalker and ult it. You can also grab a cradle, steal a voltron commnder, blow out a combo or alpha strike, and in very desperate situations, grant haste to a creature you just played.
@smittynumber1812
@smittynumber1812 4 жыл бұрын
There's enough lands in this deck to trick you into thinking its a Green deck
@Deris76
@Deris76 4 жыл бұрын
But then you look at the card draw options and you're quickly realizing you play a boros deck
@mondananikoukari8928
@mondananikoukari8928 4 жыл бұрын
@@Deris76 ha
@pvtpain66k
@pvtpain66k 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like this deck would have been a great place to reprint Steelshapers Gift. Really disappointed it wasn't included.
@StevenBryceWroten
@StevenBryceWroten 4 жыл бұрын
The Enthralling Victor ad was fantastic. Incredibly clever.
@danielalejandrogarciabusta3532
@danielalejandrogarciabusta3532 4 жыл бұрын
I was looking forward to this episode! since I bought that deck and with your help I will improve it. thanks! You are great
@jackkansas2721
@jackkansas2721 4 жыл бұрын
Ardenn, Interpid Archaeologist is one that makes sense to add
@slymaster9
@slymaster9 4 жыл бұрын
Finally! I am so happy we're getting actually good Boros Equipment cards. I've been playing since Fate Reforged and trying to find a good and fun Boros deck together ever since (It's my absolute favorite guild). If this exact pre-con had come out 2-3 years ago, it would have been bonkers. Sadly, there has been a lot of power creep. Nevertheless, I enjoy this way more than the niche strategies (Think FS&SS, Feather and even Winota) being the color combination's only highlights. They of course should exist too, but these cards all build towards Boros combat strategies being actually viable in multiplayer EDH. Which I think will be good for both Boros Fans like myself, as for the format as a whole. Combat being actually dangerous and relevant could help pull EDH back from the Ramp/Combo exclusive meta we have now. Can't combo if you're dead! Some other suggestions for aspirant Boros Equipment players: Akiri, Fearless Voyager (probably still good enough effects to include, even in a more focused Voltron build) Reyav, Master Smith (cheap uncommon from CMR, no voltron is complete without Double Strike) Puresteel Paladin (better Sram, with super equipment synergy) Tome of Legends (good in any commander-combat focused deck, cheap in mana and money cost, get it while you still can) Heavenly Blademaster (can be a good top-end, would proabably need a more upgraded equipment package though) Danitha Capashen (alternative beater, makes equipment cheaper) I feel the deck can be build in a way where Akiri and Wyren (and to a lesser extent Reyav) are fairly interchangeable. Basically just drop the aura subtheme, which I think might be a good idea anyway. Baller cards (no explanation, their power should be obvious): Stoneforge Mystic, Enlightened Tutor, Batterskull, Sword of X&Y (take your pick) Also, replace the boardwipes with ones that actually synergize with a voltron synegy like Single Combat And look at the Command Zone's video on Akiri. I put in the ZNR lands and Crucible of World on their recommendation, and it feels very smooth. I really hope they keep the Boros hot streak going in Kaldheim I have good hope, dwarves and more equipment please?
@ironocy496
@ironocy496 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent suggestions!
@ryanmatthews7405
@ryanmatthews7405 4 жыл бұрын
I think Ardenn from Commander Legends is a great add to this deck. Helps re-equip and swing.
@luckytheprotoboi826
@luckytheprotoboi826 4 жыл бұрын
Just replace Wylenn with the partners Rograhh and Ardenn, add collusses hammer, and Grafted Exoskeleton.
@defeeded0887
@defeeded0887 4 жыл бұрын
i stumbled on this channel, so far it is helping me knowing what i bought. i getting back into the game after over a year of not playing after i sold all my cards last janurary.
@ApexZer0
@ApexZer0 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like the scry lands would be the perfect non basics to put in these cheaper edh precons. They just help smooth out game play.
@Snaglbeest
@Snaglbeest 4 жыл бұрын
Nazahn's Hammer. That one thing you did that no one will ever let you get away from.
@hunterstephens3671
@hunterstephens3671 4 жыл бұрын
What's the price on this? Feels like a reasonable upgrade.
@asamataua
@asamataua 4 жыл бұрын
Just got this deck from my sister! Super excited to get into magic!
@RedBossTV
@RedBossTV 4 жыл бұрын
ROGUE’S GLOVES and MASK OF MEMORY!! Slap those on your deck
@jacobjensen7704
@jacobjensen7704 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely mask of memory. Maybe not rogue's gloves.
@mondananikoukari8928
@mondananikoukari8928 4 жыл бұрын
and infiltration lens
@jacobjensen7704
@jacobjensen7704 4 жыл бұрын
@@mondananikoukari8928 not a big fan of that one either.
@HighlanderHipster
@HighlanderHipster 4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the Rupture Spire and Transguild Promonade in the two color deck that is low curve 😂😂😂 Their thoughts are same as mine. Wouldn't even play them in a budget 5 color deck
@trowawayacc
@trowawayacc 4 жыл бұрын
Those are wierd inclusions given we got the good lands from previews commander product reprinted.
@leemiller6977
@leemiller6977 4 жыл бұрын
They totally could have put Battlefield Forge and Inspiring Vantage in instead......or something. WTF to that.
@HighlanderHipster
@HighlanderHipster 4 жыл бұрын
@@leemiller6977 Yea just the land that was already printed in the set with it would have been fine. Hell I'd be much happier if they were basics so new players don't have to play with such an insulting Mana base. Overall the balance in this deck design is pretty embarrassing. Don't get me wrong for $20 it's not an awful product in terms of contents, but in terms of a deck I wouldn't feel comfortable with telling a friend to sit down and play with this deck even if it's only against other precons.
@tornad8063
@tornad8063 3 жыл бұрын
Was 2nd in my 1st commander game using that deck.
@fireborn2132
@fireborn2132 4 жыл бұрын
Sword of the Animist should be an auto include since you want to attack and it will get you a land.
@leemiller6977
@leemiller6977 4 жыл бұрын
Yup
@taurincochran3398
@taurincochran3398 4 жыл бұрын
Did you notice, Blazing Sunsteel is the sword that Wyleth is holding,on his card?
@faerie7dragon
@faerie7dragon 4 жыл бұрын
That's really cool, doubt they noticed though, they were busy adding crappy low cost equipment.
@taurincochran3398
@taurincochran3398 4 жыл бұрын
@@faerie7dragon it's the key card!
@bobbye4369
@bobbye4369 4 жыл бұрын
I was always thinking you could go more auras than equipment, and get Sigil of the Empty Throne in the deck for added value. I'd also add All That Glitters to go with the strat and Zirda, the Dawnbreaker to make equipment cost lessened.
@jacquesdespadas
@jacquesdespadas 4 жыл бұрын
You could skew the deck hard into W and add a lifegain/lifelink theme, then add both the Sigil (good call, btw) and Angelic Accord. Angels for days! 👍👍
@CitanulsPumpkin
@CitanulsPumpkin 4 жыл бұрын
This seems like a good purchase to me. Not to play of course, but to strip for parts. The instants and equipment might help fill out my Feather the Redeemed and Nahiri decks.
@devinparrish1691
@devinparrish1691 2 жыл бұрын
That what I’m doing I’ll let you know how well it works in 2022 now but seems like a good purchase love that it includes a soul ring
@DarkEinherjar
@DarkEinherjar 4 жыл бұрын
Blazing Sunsteel's equip cost makes a lot more sense once you realize it goes infinite with Brash Taunter... like the Godo + Helm combo, it can't be cheap in terms of mana.
@OhNoTheFace
@OhNoTheFace 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah god forbid boros do something
@mistermastermind528
@mistermastermind528 Жыл бұрын
Theme-wise though, Blazing Sunsteel is the weapon on Wyleth's hand in the artwork. So, making it a little difficult for him to equip without the enablers just feels uninspired. It should've had something like Nazahn and his hammer.
@markharris2465
@markharris2465 4 жыл бұрын
I put commander plate in and that's pretty awesome with wyleth
@andyscout
@andyscout 4 жыл бұрын
I think the Blazing Sunsteel does go in the "stop hitting yourself deck." It goes infinite with Stuffy Doll/Brash Taunter. Deal damage, then Stuffy Doll can hit something else with its own trigger while hitting itself again with the Sunsteel. 6 mana is still a lot, but 6 mana to win the game? Maybe worth.
@FlamingViCTiM
@FlamingViCTiM 4 жыл бұрын
wizards could have easily put a puresteel paladin alongside sram in the precon
@jacket2848
@jacket2848 4 жыл бұрын
Puresteel is like 4 times the price
@lukegriffiths1755
@lukegriffiths1755 4 жыл бұрын
I think the reprint value is low because they're not reprints that everyone is after, like anything green. But for boros/equipment there's good stuff here that just happens to be cheaper than whats more popular. If reprints are going to drop prices anyway, I like having more strategies covered by that effect. Edit: now that I think about it, Puresteel Paladin would have been fine in here but its just missing for no reason. Ignore me
@mondananikoukari8928
@mondananikoukari8928 4 жыл бұрын
so true... also if you want smothering tithe just buy the orzhov recon deck for one of the revnica set
@danmorgan7775
@danmorgan7775 4 жыл бұрын
I would say open the armory and sword of the animist would be very nice upgrades. They certainly give you lots of room for improvement out of the box...
@caseywise993
@caseywise993 4 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, huge fan of the show! It's clear you guys aren't feeling the deck and perhaps that was what was making the review seem laborious. I think if the deck doesn't inspire you guys, you should try and take it in a direction that's completely different than what the pre-con suggests. Maybe you make a deck with the wackiest equipment out there, or do warrior tribal?! Just a suggestion!
@eliaswolter2955
@eliaswolter2955 4 жыл бұрын
Isnt there a 2 Mana equipment Tutor from Shadows over innistrad? „Open the Armory“ of Something like That.
@seandotterweich1498
@seandotterweich1498 4 жыл бұрын
Board the Weatherlight may only search the top five but with so many equipment you're bound to find something
@psy_p
@psy_p 4 жыл бұрын
Can also grab one of the legendary creatures.
@stevehammer4139
@stevehammer4139 4 жыл бұрын
I finally watched the new Mulan. Cool to see you there.
@mondananikoukari8928
@mondananikoukari8928 4 жыл бұрын
yeah it was
@shilohartisan
@shilohartisan 4 жыл бұрын
Open the Armory should have been the FIRST thing you added. With the reprint it's now 44 cents. Puresteel Paladin is only 4.11 so that definitely needs to go in too.
@snugswashere6504
@snugswashere6504 4 жыл бұрын
I think you all should play these upgraded pre-cons on Game Knights. Maybe have an episode where you play with the last 4 decks you have upgraded?
@ironocy496
@ironocy496 4 жыл бұрын
They could base it off EDHRec average decks or something as a baseline. Or attach a value cap to it.
@Beefyjesus0
@Beefyjesus0 4 жыл бұрын
Gift of immortality is better except for that when your commander dies and returns all the attached auras would've been destroyed and the equipment would need to be reequipped am I wrong?
@markharris2465
@markharris2465 4 жыл бұрын
you give him Indestructible
@avalon2962
@avalon2962 4 жыл бұрын
It's better if you don't want to keep casting your commander. But giving indestructible keeps your equipment/auras on the target. If you have pure steel and a bunch of equipment then gift is better
@psy_p
@psy_p 4 жыл бұрын
Gift is worse in voltron. Indestructibility is better because , on top of what was said, you can wrath to clear the blockers and swing freely.
@zay_lillie
@zay_lillie 4 жыл бұрын
Hey I was just thinking they thought Wyleth would go into an akiri deck but I feel like it is the other way since akiri can only draw one card and Wylethcan draw you multiple card
@thomashynnek8394
@thomashynnek8394 4 жыл бұрын
I could be wrong, but I think flickerwisp was in there to shift around an aura from one creature to another if needed. Not a great add, but I think by that was the thought process.
@weedragonauts4729
@weedragonauts4729 4 жыл бұрын
35:00 something i'd like to point out to people about this card is it'll trigger any creature with effects like Infect, Deathtouch, and Lifelink
@charlessheldon1256
@charlessheldon1256 4 жыл бұрын
Can flickerwisp be used move an aura from one creature to another? That is the only thing I could possibly think would be useful if you put an aura on a different creature and wanted to move it to Wyleth.
@Russian_engineer_bmstu
@Russian_engineer_bmstu 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know why, but this deck looks less cheap when you just read it. It has quite a handful of best equipment things
@LAOK242
@LAOK242 4 жыл бұрын
Flickerwisp is in the deck to "reequip" auras to other creatures when they come back to the field. I guess it's there to be able to reattach auras to Wyleth if you've played them on something else first, but with so few targets to use this effect it is indeed a head scratcher. You can also flick your opponents stuff, but you wouldn't really run that card just for that. Tho, I'm happy they are keeping it's price low with reprints.
@zackaryjordan5081
@zackaryjordan5081 4 жыл бұрын
Would tenza, godos maul and puresteel Paladin be good in the deck
@jacobjensen7704
@jacobjensen7704 4 жыл бұрын
Puresteel paladin definitely would be. Tenza maybe not as much.
@zackaryjordan5081
@zackaryjordan5081 4 жыл бұрын
@@jacobjensen7704 true
@Ajsdad
@Ajsdad 4 жыл бұрын
One of the first cards I got out of a Zendikar Rising booster was a full art Nahiri Heir of the Ancients. Going to be buying this to slide her in
@MrNemitri
@MrNemitri 4 жыл бұрын
Well, I was looking for a low level commander deck, this way I can have multiple decks of varying powers for different playgroups.
@Lith5484
@Lith5484 4 жыл бұрын
I was SUPER excited about this commander. I don’t love the way they prebuilt it though, my sun forget package is only 10 instants. The way I built it is a little more expensive though, using Hammer of Nazahn, puresteel paladin, Zirda the Dawnwaker and sigardas aid for cheating equip costs, then Heavenly Baldemaster as a potential backup plan for when Wyleth has been killed four times and is not longer castable
@mhicks31
@mhicks31 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that I had some of the same thoughts when upgrading this deck on my own (flickerwisp, odric, too many lands)
@dirtpickingusa8786
@dirtpickingusa8786 4 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you did not include Mask of Memory in your list. While you do have to land damager to your opponent, draw 3 discard 1 is pretty good.
@david_broz
@david_broz 4 жыл бұрын
Flickerwisp might be in the deck to reattach auras?
@karlwebb4799
@karlwebb4799 4 жыл бұрын
well spotted
@angelowilliams5239
@angelowilliams5239 4 жыл бұрын
Only thing I could think of
@Alive7ill
@Alive7ill 4 жыл бұрын
You can use this deck for additional pieces to the Jirina commander deck from earlier this year. Lots of synergy to boost the soldiers that are gonna swing it.
@rageface0908
@rageface0908 4 жыл бұрын
Single combat is a pretty good wipe for voltron decks
@BoardGameHype
@BoardGameHype 4 жыл бұрын
YEET! omg your ads are absolutely phenomenal
@Antare5
@Antare5 4 жыл бұрын
puresteel paladin is the card I thought of that I'm surprised you guys didn't mention. Not sure what I'm going to do with this deck. I could try and beef up a Wyleth deck, or scrap it for parts for an Akiri or even Syr Gwyn deck. I need to figure out who I want to actually make my equipment commander
@samorniv7911
@samorniv7911 4 жыл бұрын
Syr Gwyn is best because you can choose whether to go wide with lots of Knights, or just buff Syr Gwyn.
@robertcales8544
@robertcales8544 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy my Syr Gwyn deck. I highly recommend her 😁
@Antare5
@Antare5 4 жыл бұрын
@@robertcales8544 In your experience do you get to cast Syr Gwyn every game? I tried her brawl precon and well. It didn't impress but I know commander is a different animal
@jacobjensen7704
@jacobjensen7704 4 жыл бұрын
Do Ardenn + Rograhk or Akiri. Or go with Zendikar Akiri.
@samorniv7911
@samorniv7911 4 жыл бұрын
@@Antare5 In commander, I have always been able to play Syr Gwyn at least once a game. One important thing is to keep all the ramp in and get cheap equipment (mana cost wise, equip costs are circumvented most of the time).
@discocombo
@discocombo 4 жыл бұрын
Well there is also the white uncommon legendary which lets u attach auras and equipments for free at the beginning of combat, he would fit!
@davidorians9178
@davidorians9178 4 жыл бұрын
Is there a reason that open the armory isn't mentioned? Seems like a perfect fit and cheaper than steelshaper's gift.
@GFY60NiNe
@GFY60NiNe 4 жыл бұрын
I think flickerwhisp is in there for if they steal your commander you could flicker it back to your side of the battlefield
@bobbye4369
@bobbye4369 4 жыл бұрын
Charming Prince would be a better replacement then, since you can bounce back if it's stolen, or use the Scry or lifegain as needed.
@jacket2848
@jacket2848 4 жыл бұрын
@@bobbye4369 prince can't remove a commander until the end of turn though. Flickerwisp is vastly more useful than almost all players realise. I played Eldrazi and taxes for a long time, and flickerwisp is pretty much one of the strongest cards due to the insane plays it can set up, especially with a wasteland strangler 👹
@dominusanimus5726
@dominusanimus5726 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a little sad that they ignored Open the Armory and Puresteel Paladin. Puresteel is an awesome card for any equipment deck. Granted it's a little more expensive, but only about $3 more than steelshaper's gift.
@joshuamartin9707
@joshuamartin9707 4 жыл бұрын
Jake and Joel are magic did an upgrade video and they included both those cards. I know this because I ordered one of each of those to use to upgrade the deck. Also Stoneforge Mystic, even though it isn’t budget. 😁
@dominusanimus5726
@dominusanimus5726 4 жыл бұрын
@@joshuamartin9707 I have both in my wyleth deck. They provide good consistency that boros otherwise lacks
@mondananikoukari8928
@mondananikoukari8928 4 жыл бұрын
? purestell is only like three dollars
@johnmolinari7752
@johnmolinari7752 4 жыл бұрын
Some card i wish they would have included that aren’t tons of money, but would have fit well. Sad robot, sword of animist, relic seeker, shadowspear, Leonin Shikari, Mesa enchantress
@leemiller6977
@leemiller6977 4 жыл бұрын
Yup
@psy_p
@psy_p 4 жыл бұрын
Relic seeker is in the deck
@jacket2848
@jacket2848 4 жыл бұрын
Sword of the animist and Shadowspear are like £7-12 each
@Str8edgejon
@Str8edgejon 4 жыл бұрын
I picked up both decks this weekend and I think this will be the one I build. Although I already have 2 Voltron decks built in Sram and Syr Gwen.
@SHADOWCLOUDGAMING
@SHADOWCLOUDGAMING 4 жыл бұрын
With flickerwisp, you can flicker an aura onto another creature.
@mondananikoukari8928
@mondananikoukari8928 4 жыл бұрын
Still it feels kind of extra, just add in something better.
@SHADOWCLOUDGAMING
@SHADOWCLOUDGAMING 4 жыл бұрын
@@mondananikoukari8928 Not really extra. The biggest downside to Aura's is not being able to move them around and when the creature dies, the aura goes away. This allows you to negate one of those negatives in a deck with heavy auras. There are few other things that allows you to move auras around in boros. So in a precon that isn't supposed to be tier 6-10 out of the box, this provides surprising utility. It can also flicker one of your own creatures that has, let's say, a pacify on it and in a deck focused on one or two suited up creatures that can be useful.
@nickfitzpatrick5878
@nickfitzpatrick5878 4 жыл бұрын
If split second is on the stack, nothing that uses the stack can go onto the stack until it resolves. So no sacrifice in response but you can morph in response!
@chasecollins5958
@chasecollins5958 4 жыл бұрын
There is a bunch of other sorceries that cost 2 mana that search for equipment. Open the armory is an example and it finds auras too
@psy_p
@psy_p 4 жыл бұрын
But the Giant cheats cast AND equip costs, provides a body to be equiped and is reusable.
@OverLordeScrub
@OverLordeScrub 4 жыл бұрын
I hate to say it but I would've loved to have seen a 50 dollar budget options and really give the deck some more bang for it's buck
@jacobcohen2009
@jacobcohen2009 4 жыл бұрын
I think flickerwisp was put in to move auras around. Granted, it's completely outclassed by the new white partner, but it targets any permanent, so that seems the most likely reason.
@e2shamir675
@e2shamir675 4 жыл бұрын
Greetings humans, you have entered the fun zone. Your destination for all aspects of fun and games highlander. Enjoy your stay. Oh we will don't worry
@kalloriannightbird9012
@kalloriannightbird9012 4 жыл бұрын
Find a spot for reconnaissance. It’s perfect for the commander
@TabooX1984
@TabooX1984 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! With every bone, down to the marrow, thank you for not singing. 👍👍👍
@defeeded0887
@defeeded0887 3 жыл бұрын
I found a creature this deck needs. Champion of the flame, 1/1 trample for 1 and a red, he gets a +2/2 for each aura and equipment attached to it.
@andretect
@andretect 4 жыл бұрын
4:05
@CorsairZero
@CorsairZero 4 жыл бұрын
Possible synergy with Blazing Sunsteel, Inquisitor's Flail. Equipped creature does double damage but takes double damage
@caseywellington4761
@caseywellington4761 4 жыл бұрын
Oh snap
@mondananikoukari8928
@mondananikoukari8928 4 жыл бұрын
I think you guys missed Ardenn, Intrpid Archeaoligist. It solves a LOT of the problems.
@timdornaus
@timdornaus 4 жыл бұрын
just spitballing here: what would you say is a new and interesting angle and direction for boros they should take the colours in?? Besides always combat + equipment and fixing their card draw and ramp.
@olafthemoose9413
@olafthemoose9413 4 жыл бұрын
Blowing up lands?
@bobbye4369
@bobbye4369 4 жыл бұрын
I always though Feather along with Firesong and Sunspeaker were interesting Boros directions for Commanders.
@chrismarlow9585
@chrismarlow9585 4 жыл бұрын
I've been designing a Boros commander deck trying to come up with some unique angles that fit the colour pie. The general theme I picked is: "Things which buff when an opponent controls 6+ lands" That's a white-like effect but the bonuses will be a mixture like a red card that buffs your creatures' power by the number of lands an opponent controls above 6. Card advantage, combat bonuses, etc. gained in a kind of "levelling the playing field" way but with the combat bonuses being the most efficiently costed. It's also got a fitting ramp card: -- Bushfire 2WRR - rare - sorcery Choose an opponent. Destroy target land they control. For each land destroyed both you and the land's controller search their libraries for a basic mountain or plains card and put it onto the battlefield tapped. If an opponent controls 6 or more lands then instead do this for each opponent.
@truegrit2060
@truegrit2060 4 жыл бұрын
(37:40) You can also put in Stonehewer Giant, he's only $6.99. 😎👍
@Redleadhead
@Redleadhead 4 жыл бұрын
Simic deck doesn't even need an upgrade guide its good enough as is
@aaronpyrez1573
@aaronpyrez1573 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, cause as always they need to push Simic SUPER hard!
@dyciefisk2535
@dyciefisk2535 4 жыл бұрын
Played it out of the box and I must say, the ability to double drop lands in the command zone on top of the 'Landfall - Draw 1' is a lot more impactful than one might guess. And yes, 44 lands in the deck is *not* too many.
@lasterman94100
@lasterman94100 4 жыл бұрын
@@aaronpyrez1573 in fact they do not, they're just basing simic around the best things green and blue respectively does, ramp and card draw that is, which are infamous to be the best things you can hope for in a commander game, so every commander they're making following this logic will instantly be better than most other legends.
@spudster8887
@spudster8887 4 жыл бұрын
The only problem with the simic deck is its slow out the gate. If you were to smooth out the curve a little bit, add a few more landfall cards and maybe azusa, and yeah it'd be great.
@dyciefisk2535
@dyciefisk2535 4 жыл бұрын
@@spudster8887 This was my experience too. Both games I played with it went like this: Shields down until turn 4 or 5, by this time I'm at about 25 life, then I get my commander out and 1-2 turns later everyone is wondering how I'm playing three 6 or 7 drops a turn. The deck doesn't have any mana doublers btw.
@staurosmenexes7295
@staurosmenexes7295 4 жыл бұрын
Flicker wisp is in the deck in order to flicker the creature that might block and kill the commander. I know it is stupid but it is probably the reason why it is in
@dohc16vturbo4g63
@dohc16vturbo4g63 4 жыл бұрын
Dragon Shield sleeves for the win!
@DevilInc-d3d
@DevilInc-d3d 4 жыл бұрын
I just thought of it now but you could sing "It's ain't a scene it's an arms race" of Fall Out Boy and now I'm sad you didn't Still a great job you provided us, big thanks to you guys
@actuallyentertaininggaming5950
@actuallyentertaininggaming5950 4 жыл бұрын
song kinda looses it flow without the "GODDAMN" lyric in there tho...
@pierpaolomercurio
@pierpaolomercurio 4 жыл бұрын
great video and great comments too. I really need to upgrade this deck xD
@kristennorth3268
@kristennorth3268 4 жыл бұрын
I just played this earlier today and Flickerwisp was actually useful. My opponent had the new simic deck, so his creatures were three times the size of mine and Flickerwisp was my only flyer. Also, it allowed me to flicker Oreskos Explorer twice for extra ramp. I expect to break this one down and file it. If I were upgrading, based on how that first game went, the first thing I'd add would be Leonin Abunas.
@FlamingViCTiM
@FlamingViCTiM 4 жыл бұрын
oreskos explorer isn't ramp. it just searches in your hand. but for 4 mana and the restriction that you have to be behind for it to do anything, it should put at least one on the field
@edwardsperring9214
@edwardsperring9214 4 жыл бұрын
Flickerwisp is in the deck so that you can flicker an aura to move it between creatures
@crone0123
@crone0123 4 жыл бұрын
Are you going to draft commander legends on game nights?
@TheSimmus
@TheSimmus 4 жыл бұрын
I wondered why CMR wasn't drafted on the show like Unstable was. Would be really cool to get a second Game Knights with CMR
@mondananikoukari8928
@mondananikoukari8928 4 жыл бұрын
yes that would be great
@jwayzmtg4149
@jwayzmtg4149 4 жыл бұрын
Going to give the deck a shot after I adjust it. Removing 4 lands to start and putting in Nahiri, heir to the ancients. 11 creatures is just to little so adding her for some free blockers. Also maybe adding Rings of Brighthearth
@Dartowl1
@Dartowl1 4 жыл бұрын
0:25 al yancovic: allow me to introduce myself.
@patchestheshark
@patchestheshark 4 жыл бұрын
what happened to green, black, and blue partner spotlights? I was enjoying that series.
@austinward9741
@austinward9741 4 жыл бұрын
I think this is just for the precon for the purpose of playing the precon.
@andreusemanuel4868
@andreusemanuel4868 4 жыл бұрын
I think you guys underestimate sword of vengeance. It's clunky and slow for a 8/10 deck or above, which this deck really isn't. Even after the suggested upgrades is a 5/10 or maybe 6/10 if you're generous. The oomph that the sword gives is really valuable for casual play
@BboyTurok1990
@BboyTurok1990 4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the Reap the Tides deck.
@marlo3536
@marlo3536 3 жыл бұрын
I kinda wanna put Kemba Kha Regent and the other "when this creature is equipped get a thing" leonin cards. That and some of the jankier red stuff like deretti, faithless looting and other red draw might make this deck go smoother. I also wanna put open the armory as an additional tutor... all in all despite its drawbacks I think im gonna try this deck out
@lostcoastwizards6787
@lostcoastwizards6787 4 жыл бұрын
holy crap, excellent commercials fellas! Great work
@jacobtgomes
@jacobtgomes 4 жыл бұрын
Bludgeon brawl is great if you are playing smothering tithe, or play a lot of mana rocks.
@user-ko8pu5wu4l
@user-ko8pu5wu4l 4 жыл бұрын
23:20 shaved lion shaved lion
@annemorganna8312
@annemorganna8312 4 жыл бұрын
I think the point of Flickerwisp is you can remove a creature from an opponent’s side of the field for a turn and allow Wyleth a safe swing, or that’s at least their logic in putting it in there. Unsure why they didn’t just instead print Path to Exile or some better form of removal though.
@marvellegacy7677
@marvellegacy7677 4 жыл бұрын
me and my brother say keep blazing sunsteel the same but it costs 1 and a hybrid boros have either the hammer of nezahn effect to auto equip equipment or have an effect when it deals combat damage to an opponent you gain mana of one color equiped creature’s color identity equal to the damage.
@thatonedudejake
@thatonedudejake 4 жыл бұрын
Puresteel paladin is an auto include, get it while it is cheap after the double masters reprint I'd like something like balan or heavenly blade master as a backup in case the commander tax gets too high
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