Naya Populate Precon Upgrade Guide I C19 I The Command Zone 284 I Magic: the Gathering EDH

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We’re doing the Budget Upgrade on the Naya Populate Commander 2019 precon. Want to find out how the deck plays straight out of the box and what cards we would add and remove to quickly improve it? Then what are you waiting for? Check out this episode and you’ll be smashing your opponent’s in no time!
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@ignis86
@ignis86 5 жыл бұрын
Upgrades start at 20:24 Removals start at 30:52 see reply for list of additions
@ignis86
@ignis86 5 жыл бұрын
1 Tendershoot Dryad 1 Omnath, Locus of Rage 1 Eldrazi Displacer 1 Martial Coup 1 Austere Command 1 Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder 1 Fires of Yavimaya 1 Samut, Voice of Dissent 1 Eladamri's Call 1 Titantic Ultimatum
@ignis86
@ignis86 5 жыл бұрын
Removal List: Scaretiller Voice of Many Tahngarth, First Mate Explore Wayfaring Temple Desolation Twin Tectonic Hellion Commander's Insignia Doomed Artisan Cliffside Rescuer
@MineCraftrules17
@MineCraftrules17 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@caiolucas55
@caiolucas55 5 жыл бұрын
You guys should play another game with the precons, this time with the suggested upgrades.
@drongobrat6471
@drongobrat6471 5 жыл бұрын
And they could do it as an extra turns video instead of game knights
@derekwalter4238
@derekwalter4238 5 жыл бұрын
@@drongobrat6471 I'd rather see extra turns with personal decks. That's always the best
@FableErrejeDMR
@FableErrejeDMR 5 жыл бұрын
@@derekwalter4238 or just more games
@derekwalter4238
@derekwalter4238 5 жыл бұрын
@@FableErrejeDMR well, yeah lol
@Lucarioguild7
@Lucarioguild7 5 жыл бұрын
Derek Walter or just extra turns in general
@RecklessFables
@RecklessFables 5 жыл бұрын
"Let's Get it On" as the opening song, and underwear company as the sponsor. Spicy show today!
@Wolfer1OOO
@Wolfer1OOO 5 жыл бұрын
Lots of bony content
@stevoyah
@stevoyah 5 жыл бұрын
i feel like this deck has so many customization options. I preordered all 4 no regratz
@txag007
@txag007 5 жыл бұрын
Ditto. No regerts here!
@Rich2799
@Rich2799 5 жыл бұрын
I wish I had when it was only $135 on Card Kingdom.
@raydelmartinez2905
@raydelmartinez2905 5 жыл бұрын
LoL that starting song. This is my favorite deck. I might build a deck around the Goad commander. - Warstorm Surge is a great addition to this deck as well.
@rudyreyna5680
@rudyreyna5680 5 жыл бұрын
You know, me and my friends have been watching yall play for a few months now and our game nights are more fun and yall have shown us so much more than just combos yall have taught us proper game play sooo..... thank yall keep up the great work sending love from the the RGV TX
@ilMioMondoSulTuoTubo
@ilMioMondoSulTuoTubo 5 жыл бұрын
FINALLY I WAS WAITING FOR THIS UPGRADE VIDEO SO BADDDD
@CaptBackwards
@CaptBackwards 5 жыл бұрын
I preorder the nyla deck so yeah I know the feels
@Rich2799
@Rich2799 5 жыл бұрын
Same
@TarnaxTheBarbarian
@TarnaxTheBarbarian 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I've got to say Marisi is underrated in this deck. The combat step is the most important step for Ghired and stopping your opponents from casting spells during it is huge. No cyclonic rift, no fog, no removal. The goading is just a bonus that leaves them open next turn.
@jacobbenincasa2199
@jacobbenincasa2199 5 жыл бұрын
I think a pretty decent oversight here was flame shadow conjuring. Super cheap card that makes all your creatures into tokens to populate
@soroman3396
@soroman3396 5 жыл бұрын
Ghired's Belligerence with Phyrexian Rebirth can be nutty. Since Rebirth resolves, then triggers all those populates, you get populate triggers on the giant token you've just created. Haste enchant on board and alpha strike for total victory.
@chrisgallo2236
@chrisgallo2236 5 жыл бұрын
I had a play with the Doomed Artisan where I kept getting the sculptures and then I played Beast Within on the Artisan. So I had the Sculptures along with the 3/3 beast token.
@vaderwashere365
@vaderwashere365 5 жыл бұрын
Got my 4 decks and lifelinker codes from CK today (local pickup). Thank you for all the content and the fun podcasts/videos.
@Enigmaessence
@Enigmaessence 5 жыл бұрын
You didn't even mention the Appendage in this video.
@jackhemsworth7515
@jackhemsworth7515 5 жыл бұрын
Giant appendage is already in the deck.
@ShinkuDragon
@ShinkuDragon 5 жыл бұрын
@@XCodes no need to cast it you might get lucky and egg it, or maybe just use Mr. third path to create a token for a simple 3 mana.
@MetPhD
@MetPhD 5 жыл бұрын
Unbreakable Formation (and similar things to protect against board wipes)!
@MajinZarak
@MajinZarak 5 жыл бұрын
Haste and extra attack steps are some of the best help this deck can get.
@joshuamullerschon9947
@joshuamullerschon9947 5 жыл бұрын
My Timmy Heart can't put the Desolation Twin Out 😭
@afspeellijstnaruto
@afspeellijstnaruto 5 жыл бұрын
Same here man... The timmy in me even added godsire :/
@dustinhurley5724
@dustinhurley5724 5 жыл бұрын
That's definitely a pig and not a rhino. Just sayin'
@RicoLoco52
@RicoLoco52 5 жыл бұрын
Apparently they're called Batterboars.
@tero581
@tero581 5 жыл бұрын
Kinda unflavourful for the signature spell to be a boar when the general creates fucking Rhinos...
@deracl3s
@deracl3s 5 жыл бұрын
@@tero581 Ghired left the conclave after witnessing the devastation created by Ilharg. That's why there's a boar on the signature spell.
@ich3730
@ich3730 5 жыл бұрын
@@tero581 it depicts the most critical moment in the life of the commander creature....
@Tamarocker88
@Tamarocker88 5 жыл бұрын
Iroas, God of Victory. Gives your creatures Menace and also prevents all damage that would be dealt to them when attacking, solving the glaring problem of attacking with Ghired considering his weak frame. Majority of the time I get Ghired out, I'm not making use of his token generation since I can't swing in with him. By the time the deck gets out 5 mana to cast Ghired, there are enough threats on board to gang-block him and kill him immediately.
@reggieacevedo7551
@reggieacevedo7551 5 жыл бұрын
Its all about populating lol funniest connection to a song yet
@chaos564
@chaos564 5 жыл бұрын
Poor Josh is always so embarrassed, lol!
@kev6661
@kev6661 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for finally linking your cardkingdom swag deals to those who can order them as sealed product is the only products they don’t ship internationally. 10/10 good YouTubing
@bbqseitan7106
@bbqseitan7106 5 жыл бұрын
This is the only other deck i would've gotten rather than the Madness deck. I started with tokens so I have a soft spot for tokens, this deck is sick.
@HoltzWorks
@HoltzWorks 5 жыл бұрын
I'm definitely slipping Odric, Master Tactician into that deck once I get my hands on it. He's a huge removal magnet, and if he lives for one turn... well, you can either completely demolish the opponents' utility creatures, or make all your non-trampling big boys unblockable.
@Patrick-bv8gp
@Patrick-bv8gp 5 жыл бұрын
Love that Jimmy is an SU fan
@Constant_Threat
@Constant_Threat 5 жыл бұрын
Desolation Twin seems fine in the deck, provided you run Mirari's Wake, the enchantment that transforms into a gaea's cradle, and enough mana rocks.
@jacobdespain1411
@jacobdespain1411 5 жыл бұрын
The Naya deck definitely looks cool. I like this wave of commander decks, except for the rakdos deck (but that's just more personal preference, it's cool too). I will say, surprised that God Pharaoh's Gift (or the throne, can't remember which right now lol). Creating tokens out of stuff from the graveyard is fun, it's basically another mimic vat.
@GuitarHero9728
@GuitarHero9728 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite part of this deck is the goad comamnder. My dream deck is probably a blueless goad deck and he would be great in it.
@leemiller6977
@leemiller6977 5 жыл бұрын
Primeval Bounty, Noxious Revival, Harvest Season, Chord of Calling, Miren, the Moaning Well, Triumph of Ferocity and bellowing tanglewurm are all going in my deck to help make it my own!!!
@PvmBarrage
@PvmBarrage 5 жыл бұрын
I bought the set of 4 decks, I cant wait to get into deck teching these! So excited for the lifelinker backgrounds!
@fhernands
@fhernands 5 жыл бұрын
Love the content, but tbh none of the suggestions addresses the problem with board wipes. Cards like dautless escort, boros charm, wrap in vigor aren't expensive and gives the protection the decks need. In addition to that, quite a few cards featured could be considered "win more" cards, like bruce tarl and some are fairly overcosted, like martial coup and ultimatum.
@Tamarocker88
@Tamarocker88 5 жыл бұрын
The even larger achilles heel of the deck is the commander's need to attack to create another Rhino. This isn't a voltron build, a gang block or single death touch 1/1 will take Ghired out. Majority of the time I get him out (playing stock build), he just sits there because the board is too dangerous to swing into by the time he gets out. The deck needs serious amounts of protection.
@katanakid13
@katanakid13 5 жыл бұрын
Go read Ghired's paragraph in the Commander 2019 Release Notes, before you guys take out Doomed Artisan. Ghired's ability circumvents Artisan entirely, and they actually use him as the example of ways to get around certain attack/block effects.
@JoshSmith-eq7ht
@JoshSmith-eq7ht 5 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@joshuamullerschon9947
@joshuamullerschon9947 5 жыл бұрын
Godsire and Utvara Hellkite seem to be good in this Deck too 🤔
@georgemcvay4572
@georgemcvay4572 4 жыл бұрын
I am 14. My cousin got me this deck last Christmas and that opening song was "special".
@SorcererTim45
@SorcererTim45 5 жыл бұрын
Out of all the commanders in this, i like marisi the most. Having everyone attack is great and he is pretty open ended in terms of what things you want to have. I have built it with trampling tokens and flying tokens, so i can take advantage of the populate cards that are already in the deck. I like atla palani as well but not as much as i love goading people
@sanford-markbarnes6191
@sanford-markbarnes6191 5 жыл бұрын
Panharmonicon is an awesome card too... people forget about that card and.... KiKi ..!
@trash_panda_commander
@trash_panda_commander 5 жыл бұрын
Of all the sponsors, underpants? Haha, love you guys so much!
@thechaophim1654
@thechaophim1654 5 жыл бұрын
So... I bought this deck yesterday and sleeved it up. Didn't goldfish it, didn't read it, etc., Entered a pod with some high-teir tuned decks (non-precon) and got mana flooded/had wrong colors to cast until I was *finally* able to cast my commander as my first and only creature. Did some spot removal before then, but yeah. Dead hand. So I got ignored and started growing. Wound up taking it all because Wayfaring Temple, my commander, and the tokens were swinging HARD for face. I was happy and will be happier still once I tune and upgrade it.
@Renegadetothe64th
@Renegadetothe64th 5 жыл бұрын
So can we expect an Extra Turns episode with upgraded pre-cons?
@liammanning8334
@liammanning8334 5 жыл бұрын
Extra turns was supposed to be something easy for them to make without all the flashy. Was supposed to have more of them because it's easier to make.. But it seems they never make them which is disappointing
@navingarg7566
@navingarg7566 5 жыл бұрын
@@nivekviking9633 u sound pretty salty for someone watching free content with easily skippable advertisements
@Tha3l
@Tha3l 5 жыл бұрын
@@liammanning8334 It was, but it ended up becoming more and more flashy
@mtg.delirium6632
@mtg.delirium6632 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve asked JLK on Twitter many times about more extra turns episodes and he never responds to me
@tzarl
@tzarl 5 жыл бұрын
41:03 I would say this deck "keeps you honest". XD
@weirdmusicmixmaster
@weirdmusicmixmaster 5 жыл бұрын
Building up mine right now, took out almost all your recommends already but kept desolation twin, you dont need trample if you have just a ton of 10/10s to go wide
@sladevalen
@sladevalen 5 жыл бұрын
Cipher is a mechanic I wish they went back and made some new support for
@Lucarioguild7
@Lucarioguild7 5 жыл бұрын
Slade Valen Cipher was such a cool mechanic but Wizards was terrified of the potential power which really hurt it
@elijahdavila3684
@elijahdavila3684 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like WOTC might be more comfortable with the mechanic if they rework it. I'm thinking of a mechanic that turns and instant or sorcery you cast into an aura after it resolves. Almost like an instant/sorcery Bestow. Could work in a Theros set. Example: Rune of Culling 1B Sorcery Target opponent sacrifices a creature. If Rune of Culling is an aura, enchanted creature gains "Whenever this creature deals combat damage to a player, that player sacrifices a creature. Runic 3B (If you cast this for its Runic cost, put it onto the battlefield attached to a creature you control as it resolves, rather than into your graveyard. It becomes an Enchantment Aura with enchant creature.) This way they can also make the spell do different things between its spell and enchantment abilities. A burn spell could become a haste/trample granting enchantment, a pump spell could give hexproof, etc.
@Goscalyon
@Goscalyon 5 жыл бұрын
My first thought when seeing red being added to populate, i thought "Ultvara Hellkite".
@davidrolland150
@davidrolland150 5 жыл бұрын
That was my first addition
@WinkenSmile
@WinkenSmile 5 жыл бұрын
Secret tech: Echo Chamber. People dont play bad creatures in commander. Populate that solemn token, copy it with ghired. Hold the chamber in your hand for the backup plan.
@SuperRutherr
@SuperRutherr 5 жыл бұрын
I love Ghired! Looks super fun and I'm very excited for this new commander set. Thank you guys for the awesome content 💖
@jordancarlson6556
@jordancarlson6556 5 жыл бұрын
I played this precon once and my opponents also played the C19 precons. These decks played pretty well, and this ghired deck performed better than my reyhan ikra shidiqi deck. By a significant margin… I think I have some tuning to do.
@hubiedoobie2
@hubiedoobie2 4 жыл бұрын
desolation twin seems to be more geared towards an atla commander and then the populate feature as secondary. Could work well with some scrying and a way to sack an egg.
@dillpickle694
@dillpickle694 5 жыл бұрын
I really love my naya deck My commander is Samut so all my big creatures have haste and it is really explosive
@Valkyrinn
@Valkyrinn 5 жыл бұрын
Swapping out some of the card draw for rummage effects could be a good way to fuel Feldon. I love the idea of using Feldon to get a Desolation Twin token because then every time you populate you get 20 power on board. There are some pretty cheap cards that make tokens that I've wanted to have work but I don't even know if they'd be worth here. The cards that create 5/5 trample wurms like Armada Wurm or Advent of the Wurm seem fun, or Grove of the Guardian, which makes an 8/8 for 5. Also anything that makes 4/4 flying angels, or something like Divine Visitation which makes your tokens into flying vigilant angels.
@TheCrd555
@TheCrd555 5 жыл бұрын
Sword of selves, parallel lives,and portcullis vine for the eggs!
@OhNoTheFace
@OhNoTheFace 5 жыл бұрын
I still love Tahngarth's flavour. "A fight? COUNT ME IN!"
@ty_sylicus
@ty_sylicus 5 жыл бұрын
Happy to see Naya get some love.
@10shadowhunter01
@10shadowhunter01 5 жыл бұрын
I cannot wait to get my hands on this deck. I am happy that populate got red added to it. Since most red cards make a token copy of a creature wich i can populate. The original token gets exiled/ sacrificed but the populated one stays. So i am going more into a clone version.
@only1sn1not1taken
@only1sn1not1taken 5 жыл бұрын
Just play close attention to those Red copy cards. Some of them, the token creatures gains the effect to exile at the end of the turn so any populated ones would also have this same clause.
@Thundrbeard
@Thundrbeard 5 жыл бұрын
This deck is begging for Beastmaster Ascension
@manuelito1233
@manuelito1233 5 жыл бұрын
I mean, which token deck isn't?
@gabrielbost8281
@gabrielbost8281 5 жыл бұрын
A bunch of 4/4 tramplers becoming 9/9 tramplers I'm f***ed I scoop lol
@karinawestmoreland8268
@karinawestmoreland8268 5 жыл бұрын
Not to mention Bramble Sovereign
@CaptBackwards
@CaptBackwards 5 жыл бұрын
Haste enabler and give trample to all creatures you control Beast master ascension
@CaptBackwards
@CaptBackwards 5 жыл бұрын
Girhed ETB and get a 4/4 rhino with trample Girhed attacks to get a 4/4 rhino with trample that is also attacking. You attack with girhed and automatically get 2 counters on ascension. Have the 1st token rhino attack as well now that is 3.
@the_names_rob
@the_names_rob 5 жыл бұрын
It is Il-Harg. Ghired was Selesnya but then when Il-Harg showed up fighting for Gruul during the War of the Spark Ghired Switched to Gruul. That is why he is Naya colors
@the_names_rob
@the_names_rob 5 жыл бұрын
The flavour text of Ghired's Belligerence refers to him leaving the conclave ie conclave exile
@Thoughtmage100
@Thoughtmage100 5 жыл бұрын
Except the boar in Ghired's Belligerence isn't Ilharg. Its just one of Gruul's many boars. See cards like Rhythm of the Wild for more piggies like it.
@2099arashiko
@2099arashiko 5 жыл бұрын
Yall have made me like EDH more. I have started focusing more on it then standard. I learn such cool combos from yall and your guests. Keep up the awesome work.
@Kcet_Team_ZS
@Kcet_Team_ZS 5 жыл бұрын
I'd add my favorite future sight cat, nacatl war pride, instant army!
@andrewcapuno3507
@andrewcapuno3507 5 жыл бұрын
Desolation twin is a cast trigger not an etb so its just a 10/10 vanilla if you cheat it in, so one more reason to cut it
@enlightshadow4852
@enlightshadow4852 5 жыл бұрын
My friends and I played with the precons (on an app called Cockatrice) in order to try them out, and I ended up with the populate deck. While we were playing, I quickly learned that this deck rebounds from nuke spells far too easily. My friends had to wipe the boardstate 4 times in order to keep the Populate deck down and slow the deck down enough in order to defeat the deck. All 3 of them. And the deck wasn't even running at full potential with the cards in the deck, it just happened.
@slackingminotaur8950
@slackingminotaur8950 5 жыл бұрын
One card you guys didnt add that i have been working on with it is helm of the host. Equip to the commander makes insane shenanigans.
@slackingminotaur8950
@slackingminotaur8950 5 жыл бұрын
@@XCodes that make 4/4s and they also polulate since they have haste. So you make more rhinos. Or make more of them then that makes more rhinos and they are all non legendary rhino makers. This is like my crack.
@Tamarocker88
@Tamarocker88 5 жыл бұрын
@@slackingminotaur8950 They populate IF you attack with them. They are STILL only 2 power. Chances are, you're going to swing in with them, they're not going to kill anything, and if they get gang-blocked, they're dead. The biggest glaring issue with this deck is that by the time Ghired gets out, opponents can gang block and kill him, making it pointless to attack with him unless you have some form of protection.
@slackingminotaur8950
@slackingminotaur8950 5 жыл бұрын
@@Tamarocker88 when they enter they make rhinos. Rhinos bud. If the little 2s die I care not. I want the rhinos and the populate from them attacking.
@Tamarocker88
@Tamarocker88 5 жыл бұрын
​@@slackingminotaur8950 They do create a rhino when entering the battlefield, but that's only 50% of what Ghired could be doing. If your opponents allow your original Ghired to stay alive long enough for the Helm to create a problem, you've already won by that point. So you would have the Helm out, equipped to Ghired, you would have to let Ghired sit there unused (maybe protected by some form of enchantment or other equipment) and all for, what? A copy of Ghired each turn and two 4/4 Rhinos. Using Helm of the Host to create a dead 2/5 as a means to make a pair of 4/4 tokens per turn is hardly anything to write home about. In all likelihood either Ghired or your Helm won't survive either being cast or past a single turn around the table.
@connergish9060
@connergish9060 5 жыл бұрын
Also depending on your group meta cliffside rescuer is an AMAZING way to deal with unique types of removal....like imprisoned in the moon/Song of the dryads..........cause the enchantment will fall off with the protection.....and it can hit any permanent.......which sometimes your cards you could get them out expensively (like a sac outlet) cant hit it anymore cause it is a land.......
@VMSelvaggio
@VMSelvaggio 4 жыл бұрын
Eladamri's Call looks like the artist's shoutout to a Star Wars tauntaun.
@Firelord_Trolldemort
@Firelord_Trolldemort 5 жыл бұрын
eldamari call was a foil I pulled from that draft :D
@DarkEinherjar
@DarkEinherjar 5 жыл бұрын
I like Divergent Transformations in token decks... it's good when you want something gone permanently even at the risk of bringing up something potentially worse, but it also allows you to turn your lesser tokens into creatures from your deck. It also costs only 3R as long as all opponents are alive.
@choccymilk7913
@choccymilk7913 5 жыл бұрын
Best intro ever! Please dude take my like. 😂
@jflowization
@jflowization 5 жыл бұрын
Godsire could work with this deck, as well as utvara hellkite, also Savage Ventmaw MAY work, so long as you have enough ramp in the deck. For a spell "Awaken the SkyTyrant" could also work, if you take any damage at all, you put a red 5/5 flying dragon on the battlefield, then if you populate, there's another flying beat stick
@heinousrat9019
@heinousrat9019 5 жыл бұрын
titanic ultimatum could just be overwhelming stampede, you miss out on life link and first strike but it's way easier to play and can pump for way higher.
@davidsnedden4796
@davidsnedden4796 5 жыл бұрын
Zacama would be fun too, gotta love some Zacama
@shikabaneconga
@shikabaneconga 5 жыл бұрын
i bought a foiled titanic ultimatum that came with a mosswort bridge. honestly seems like the bridge is amazing
@plus1032
@plus1032 5 жыл бұрын
Jimmy has gone through so many hairstyles, you'll land on one soon man
@jaredwallick509
@jaredwallick509 5 жыл бұрын
I think I’d add in Avenger of zendikar and verdant confluence, while verdant May be a little slow, but with all the ramp in the deck being able to either get three basic at once, or make something bigger or get one of your main population cards back is really good. And avenger is avenger, no questions needed why I’d include that.
@heinousrat9019
@heinousrat9019 5 жыл бұрын
why'd you think that boar was a rhino? lmao literally called it il-harg then said it's a rhino when it's just a giant boar, i'm crying.
@jacobreinbolt8713
@jacobreinbolt8713 5 жыл бұрын
I know, I'm a zoology major and I died inside a little. An otherwise good video though!
@fabrypotter5
@fabrypotter5 5 жыл бұрын
Too bad it isn't a rhino. It's a flavour fail for ghired
@ghostsword6554
@ghostsword6554 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah that bit kinda surprised me as well... a boar is not a rhino..
@morganvanlenthe5425
@morganvanlenthe5425 5 жыл бұрын
I made mine an infinite combat/extra combat sub theme populate deck. Most of the cards I added were things like dracuseth or itali plus all the extra combat cards but I also put in anointed procession and other good token makers
@MrJorge3010
@MrJorge3010 5 жыл бұрын
Aurelia, the Warleader and Helm of the Host combo? Maybe add Season of Growth to scry before drawing for creatures entering the battlefield?
@tero581
@tero581 5 жыл бұрын
Helm of the Host and Flameshadow Conjuring are auto includes. Also Warstorm Surge and Godsire would be very likely adds from me. Even equipping Ghired with the Helm would give you another Ghired with another possible populate trigger and another Rhino every combat. Also goes well with literally any other creature you would have in this deck.
@jjvh500
@jjvh500 5 жыл бұрын
Really wondering why you didn't suggest "Greater Good" and "Warstorm Surge." Greater Good being repeated "Life's Legacy" is incredible value for the deck when you can create giant tokens. And then you went over Warstorm Surge already in the "Merciless Rage" deck but it is so much better here when, again, you make giant tokens...
@Tamarocker88
@Tamarocker88 5 жыл бұрын
Life's Legacy doesn't make you discard 3 cards and has a lower CMC. Sure it's one time use, but discarding 3 cards after drawing is a loss unless you're sacrificing tokens 7/7 or larger. Baseline common scenario, you are sacrificing a Rhino token. With Life's Legacy it's a 2 mana investment plus the rhino to draw 4 cards. With Greater Good you'd invest 5 mana plus the Rhino, only draw 1 card, and then have to discard 3!
@LeKrutes
@LeKrutes 5 жыл бұрын
I think kavu lair would be much better add to the deck.
@Tamarocker88
@Tamarocker88 5 жыл бұрын
@@LeKrutes Absolutely, thanks for the recommendation. I have a Life's Legacy in mine, but I'll definitely pick up a Kavu Lair to swap in its place.
@EZDre11
@EZDre11 5 жыл бұрын
It never hurts to add Heroic Intervention in any green deck
@leemiller6977
@leemiller6977 5 жыл бұрын
Word!
@manosslt965
@manosslt965 5 жыл бұрын
do a game knights and each of you will have a precon from a different year
@ErenYaeger845
@ErenYaeger845 5 жыл бұрын
Yesss that wouod be cool
@eusouzoom
@eusouzoom 5 жыл бұрын
The old ones are not as balanced as the new ones... Not a good idea if I may say...
@TheBlindFates
@TheBlindFates 5 жыл бұрын
They did have an older episode for one of the commander anthology sets. That's technically precons from different years...
@davidrolland150
@davidrolland150 5 жыл бұрын
First play of this deck i got +5/+5 for cammanders insignia, void Winnower and darksteel plate are two good choices for that board wipe problem also
@HinekoAkahi
@HinekoAkahi 5 жыл бұрын
I probably would've put in Helm of the Host (you guys even mentioned it!) and/or one of the token doublers, Anointed Procession or the green version, can't remember the name. Though I suppose those would've burst the budget xD
@thomhitzelberger7876
@thomhitzelberger7876 5 жыл бұрын
Damn same day as video and CK set of 4 already gone up $30. Great video this deck looks super fun
@jacquesdespadas
@jacquesdespadas 5 жыл бұрын
Protect your board! Heroic Intervention probably did not fit the $25 budget, but Boros Charm and Rootborn Defenses should. Eerie Interlude will save your real creatures from a board wipe and give you ETBs for them all to boot, and Cloudshift is the 1-mana go-to to beat targeted removal. Armada Wurm and other creatures that bring a buddy when they ETB fit this perfectly. I would argue that Pyroblast, Red Elemental Blast, and Reverberate should be your first substitutions, because you are most likely to lose to Cyclonic Rift, or possibly Villainous Wealth, than anything else.
@proteus404
@proteus404 5 жыл бұрын
Helm of the Host & Flameshadow Conjuring have worked very well for me. Helm on Ghired is ridiculous
@reesejackson5935
@reesejackson5935 5 жыл бұрын
Speaking of board wipes. Teferis protection would be great in this. Dodging board wipes could win you the game
@leemiller6977
@leemiller6977 5 жыл бұрын
SO glad that came in one of the commander decks from 2017!!! Getting a 50$ card in a store bought 40ish dollar deck is FTW.
@reesejackson5935
@reesejackson5935 5 жыл бұрын
@@leemiller6977 yup. Got mine from commander 2017, its in my ur-dragon deck for now
@leemiller6977
@leemiller6977 5 жыл бұрын
@@reesejackson5935 I didn't even know it was in the deck it came in until I bought that deck and started checking out the prices of the cards on Cardkingdom. "Wonder how much this cool white instant card is worth......Oh SNAP!!! "
@reesejackson5935
@reesejackson5935 5 жыл бұрын
@@leemiller6977 it's so funny casting it in response to a board wipe when you have a massive board. It's an auto win almost
@maksimschneidmiller4289
@maksimschneidmiller4289 5 жыл бұрын
You can add the white Cat from hour of devastation that is a 1/1 double strike and for 3 colerless and 2 white it comes as a 4/4 double strike token from your Graveyard in to Play
@f-xleduc8714
@f-xleduc8714 5 жыл бұрын
How about creatures with myriad? Caller of the pack is insane with ghired :)
@justwrath2049
@justwrath2049 5 жыл бұрын
Ya, and Herald of the Host, both musts, at least once you've added a lot of haste-giving.
@jacquesdespadas
@jacquesdespadas 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Populate and Myriad are excellent together.
@f-xleduc8714
@f-xleduc8714 5 жыл бұрын
@@jacquesdespadas throw in a girruk's packleader or elemental bond and it becomes crazy
@jacquesdespadas
@jacquesdespadas 5 жыл бұрын
F-X leduc Oh yeah! 👍👍
@f-xleduc8714
@f-xleduc8714 5 жыл бұрын
@@jacquesdespadas i actually decked myself once with that combo
@tsho6131
@tsho6131 5 жыл бұрын
Hammer of Purphoros instead of Fires of Yavimaya? I think flood protection that creates tokens might be better than the one-time pump. Hammer is a buck, so within budget as well.
@Doofindork
@Doofindork 5 жыл бұрын
Rhythm of the Wild would be my pick. If you don't want your creature to attack, it gets larger. Otherwise Haste + Creature spells can't be countered is a pretty sick value for 3 mana.
@JmLyan
@JmLyan 5 жыл бұрын
Biggest downside is the double type. As both an artifact and enchantment, it is much easier to remove the hammer than Fires of Yavimaya. And the secondary abilities aren't terribly useful on either card imo.
@DarkEinherjar
@DarkEinherjar 5 жыл бұрын
Nontoken creatures only, sadly. Yeah, I was equally disappointed when I read the card.
@faerie7dragon
@faerie7dragon 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think you want to blow up your own lands in a Naya deck, maybe in a Mono Red deck, fun idea though.
@tsho6131
@tsho6131 5 жыл бұрын
I agree that you don’t want to blow up your lands, but you’re likely to play a lot of land ramp. Board wipes and flooding can leave you vulnerable. It’s a serviceable backup plan. I can see the downside of being an artifact, but if they’re using targeted removal on your haste enabler, I think you’re doing just fine. I’ve played Fires many times and the +2/+2 is almost never relevant. On board combat tricks are pretty meh. Occasionally, it might save a creature from Earthquake or something, but it’s bad planning to expect your opponent not to account for it. Hammer gives you the same primary effect and something to do in worst-case scenarios. Either way, I wouldn’t give side-eye to Fires. I just personally like the alternate effect of Hammer better. Rhythm of the wild says “Nontoken creatures.” Kind of a non-bo in a populate deck. Otherwise, it would definitely be the pick of the three.
@MJ1978
@MJ1978 5 жыл бұрын
Whew! This one is out. Thought I kept missing seeing it on the list. Interesting options to take this one to the next level. :)
@iisaka_station
@iisaka_station 5 жыл бұрын
Grove of the Guardian, armada wurm, and Karametra!! :)
@caligulaincarnate
@caligulaincarnate 5 жыл бұрын
I would definitely add Grand Warlord Radha, producing more mana to put more things out just from attacking, goes great with Marisi and Atla, but I think can work just as well with Gihred too, especially if someone uses a board wip you can't escape and you need to refill your board immediately.
@stepforwardentertainment715
@stepforwardentertainment715 5 жыл бұрын
As others have pointed out, the image on Ghired’s Belligerence is Ilharg. Quote, from the insert within speaking about Ghired: “A former member of the Selesnya Conclave, Ghired shifted his allegiance to the Gruul Clans after witnessing the awe-inspiring manifestation of the Raze-Boar during the War of the Spark on Ravnica.”
@vasylpark2149
@vasylpark2149 5 жыл бұрын
I want more squirrels so I can do a better squirrel populate deck
@DrHino311
@DrHino311 5 жыл бұрын
Play 'Voice of many' as a token with 'Feldon of the thrid path' and with populate your looking at increasing card draw.
@nhlindblom
@nhlindblom 5 жыл бұрын
Josh has an unhealthy obsession with flash 😂😂
@bbqseitan7106
@bbqseitan7106 5 жыл бұрын
As a player who started in the snapcaster/rest angel control meta, flash and counter spells have me shook
@theussr6757
@theussr6757 5 жыл бұрын
Ezuri predation is a good board wipe for the deck
@rosspenney5158
@rosspenney5158 5 жыл бұрын
There's the way of evaluating cards BPAB (Building, Parity, Ahead and Behind) and the Hellion is only good in one quadrant- Behind.
@svsnv77
@svsnv77 5 жыл бұрын
I think the only clear oversight you guys missed is Hammer of Purphoros. You talked about how important it is for this deck to have haste, and the hammer does that. Plus it gives you a small insurance against flooding, or makes a token in a pinch. Also is less than $2.
@yorade1
@yorade1 5 жыл бұрын
Resplendent Angel, and Utvara Hellkite, Shanna Sisay's legacy, and Samut Tyrant Smasher are some suggestions. Gives you some air presence and several conditions for token creation
@seanmachlan3282
@seanmachlan3282 5 жыл бұрын
I think it's a mistake to take out the sculpture creator. It screams, "remove me quickly". At first it's a passive token generator, so you always have something to populate. Then late game, it becomes a solid blocker, as few people will want to remove him. Also, if you added Warstorm Surge to the deck, then he'd be making tokens, and causing damage. And Warstorm Surge would be beneficial to the deck as a whole, even without the sculpture dude.
@belladonnaRoot
@belladonnaRoot 5 жыл бұрын
I think it'll be a fun deck. But kinda super-straightforward like the Mardu vampires a while back; it does tokens and that's it. I'll be taking it apart to run the Egg commander. I'll probably take my Mayel of the Anima, RG dragon deck, and maybe my naya dino decks apart to make a thematically pleasing "hatch eggs into dinos and dragons" deck.
@only1sn1not1taken
@only1sn1not1taken 5 жыл бұрын
More cheap upgrades. Both Charms that are in the colors, Grove of the Guardian, Call of the Conclave, Advent of the Wurm, Armada Wurm, Anger?, Flameshadow Conjuring, Minion Reflector, God-Pharaoh's Gift, Sandwurm Convergence, Rhythem of the Wild. I don't like having to rely on Populate. I'd rather make some tokens and then just have a few ways to populate throughout the deck to get extra value. As you have said, you don't want to draw the wrong half of the deck.
@thesquirteler4520
@thesquirteler4520 5 жыл бұрын
You guys create such amazing content. I hope you both know that.
My scorpion was taken away from me 😢
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