Bortoleto JOINS Audi - But What Does This Mean For Colapinto? // Tommo's Race Chinwag

[@TommoMcCluskey]

Damn, my bad. Completely forgot to reply to the superchats. Keep an eye on my community page and I'll give a reply to each - sorry. :(

[@ccramit]

Apparently Williams are asking $20 mil from RB to release Sainz on his contract. Then RB will have to sign Sainz to a new contract, which will probably end up costing RB anywhere between $30-$40 million at the end of it all when they could have just signed Sainz straight up for $10-$15 million. What a bonehead move to hold on to Perez for so long. This works for Williams as well. Paying Sainz $10mil a year to maybe finish in the points was a waste. Now, they can pay Colapinto at a rookie rate and use that saved money to develop the car. Sainz going to RB and Colapinto staying on at Williams is a win-win. Sainz will be bringing in money to the RB side anyways, and RB is so rich that the $40 mil wouldn't mean much to a team who used to outspend the entire midfield before the cost cap. And Williams can keep an F1 level driver on the cheap while continuing to close the gap to the midfield.

[@MamtaSharma-mq7xt]

What's the source mate?

[@apoloWND]

Also the sponsors pilots carry over to whatever team they join, which is why Perez's situation is so complicated for RB

[@TommoMcCluskey]

Surely, SURELY Red Bull can't justify that level of financial L?? Crazy if true.

[@stevenjoseph6048]

If that happens then that's so stupid. Red Bull had the entire period of February to July to sign Carlos and opted not to. I doubt this rumour is legit

[@ccramit]

@MamtaSharma-mq7xt Turn on your computer. It's usually the big button on top of the tower somewhere. Open up a web browser. A web browser is a program used to surf the web, or internet. Go to the address bar at the top of the web browser, type in "Google". Google is a web site/search engine that uses keyword searches to find information. Once on the Google site, type in something like "Sainz to Red Bull". This will bring you to a page of links that will send you to these things called news articles. And if I have to explain what a news article to you, you may not understand it anyways.

[@The1emersonukno]

Should do a vid on the f2 champs who didnt get an f1 drive

[@TommoMcCluskey]

Good shout 🫡

[@polyethylene87]

Hasn't this been proven a bit overrated. People making a big deal about Colapinto not lighting it up in F2 and coming out of nowhere, but here is a fun fact, he is ahead of Antonelli and Bearman in F2 standings, and nobody is talking about their lack of raw proven talent. Hadjar was doing great this year in F2, and no one is talking about him. Bortoleto is getting noise not because of the weight of F2 and F3 accomplishments, but the weight of his backers too.

[@ArthurNunes29]

​@@polyethylene87 I've been complaining about Bearman and Antonelli. Me and every brazilian F1 fan, cause Drugovich has been robbed his seat

[@Slipstream_merchant]

@@TommoMcCluskeyCallum Illot has to make that list

[@lmaomoofeq]

@@polyethylene87 Bortoleto is getting the noise because he is on track to be a back to back f3 and f2 champion. Oscar, Leclerc, Russell, Hamilton...the track record aint bad innit?? Hadjar is in his second season, while Bortoleto is in his first. That plays a massive role in Gabi's favour.

[@musculusiv4172]

I'm a huge Bortoleto believer! 🤩 So hyped for this, he's the perfect choice next to the veteran Hulk! Better dont fuck this up 🅱️inotto...

[@GigaKubica88]

I'm telling you, Zhou was better than Mick Schumacher. I understand this year is a write off but he put up a decent fight against a good Bottas while Schumacher was struggling to show anything against alright Kmag plus all the times he put the car in the wall trying too hard and when he didn't the pace wasn't better than Kmag

[@Viktoronto]

I feel bad for him. He never got the chance to show how good he is.

[@Slipstream_merchant]

No, and Schumacher struggled to perform because of Steiner. Mick is a lot better than what he was able to show at Haas.

[@sound4117]

@@Slipstream_merchant better than he was able to show at haas based on what hard evidence? Schumacher fans are the funniest out there. Just let it go. Zhou is picking up equally as many points as Mick was when they were in the worst cars on the grid but at least Zhou isn’t causing 3 million dollars worth of damage every other week.

[@FCB001]

@@Slipstream_merchant based on what?

[@TheImSolid]

@@sound4117Mick was beating KMAG in the second half of 2022. The guy was finishing ahead of him in most racea and was quicker on race pace but the car was worse by then. You can't just say "Hey X amount of points means he's better!" without context. The 22 Alfa Romeo was quick enough in the first quarter for Bottas to rech Q3s and almost score podiums. Zhou meanwhile was nowhere and now he's been even slower. Bottas is gapping him hard. Mick was crash friendly, yes..but he wasn't getting handled by his teammate like Zhou is.

[@Narmatonia]

Hadjar is good, but Colapinto is a known quantity in F1 already, so he has a better chance

[@Kira-29]

Nice stream as always Tommo :) I am happy for all the rookies getting a chance. Imo they are all having a lot of potential and I am curious how it will develop next season. I hope you will get the chance of doing an interview with Ollie again during the winter brake. Keep it up mate!

[@TommoMcCluskey]

Thank you Kira - I hope so too!

[@TheOfficialMyk]

Close contacts to Colapinto say that Williams it's their Plan A. So it may be true that RB are talking with Williams for Sainz. RB gets Sainz and Williams keep Colapinto. RB are asked to pay to Williams $$$ for Sainz and then more $$$ for Sainz contract. It's a win-win for Williams, since they can use that money to develop the car. RB could get an amazing driver and they should get rid of Perez. Perez sponsors are talking with Colapinto's managment since Mexico, they might sponsor him after Perez leaves RB. Perez and Franco are close friends since his days in F3. As an Argentinian i'd rather see him stay at Williams or go to Aston Martin if papa Stroll kicks once and for all Lance. Just send him to WEC and get someone else.

[@Miniduck9013]

I really don’t like Isack lol, but he really has earned that seat he’s been the best Red Bull Junior in currently in f2 for sure

[@AndyLafuente2709]

20:34 They shouldn't have extended him throughout 2026. They had the cards and dropped the ball. If they want Franco, they should pay

[@keshavmukherjee3381]

Hey Tomma can we have a video at the end of the season on the deep dive on the Audi team, latest developments and additions to the team?

[@selder_7]

It is ridiculous how well Vowles has done on drivers with a car that’s not there and an organisation that’s openly miles behind.

[@lachlantula]

he's just too suave with it

[@polyethylene87]

So, here is some scoop on Colapinto. There are strong suggestions that he will be going to RB. Just watched his manager, Maria, being interviewed post Audi signing Gabriel Bortoleto. The interviewer asked her towards the end, from 1-10, what is the likelihood that Colapinto will be in F1 in 2025, she responded "20". The interview was very telling, she was very professional and denied there being anything, denied commenting on the RB and Horner interest, but yet, when they asked her on the likelihood, she responded 20. There aren't a lot of seats left, so RB is the one that rings true. Lastly, I dont think Lawson would move up to main car, i just dont see it. Colapinto's rise in argentina brought big backers out of nowhere. Im sure their commitment to RB will be measured by which seat they offer him, and knowing how much red bull likes money, i would think putting him and the sponsors on the main car make the most sense.

[@17Jnico]

To add more, in the same interview they showed her a piece of an interview before Franco joined F1. They asked her the exact same question "Maria, from 1 to 10, what are the chances of having Franco in F1??" The answer was 20. She repeated it now. It's more than telling, surely they're waiting for RB to solve their problems and then announce it.

[@polyethylene87]

@@17Jnico aaaand, lets not forget Ruber Daray, the guy that broke Colapinto's debut in F1 that no one saw coming, said it's simply pending announcement. I just dont see so many reputiable people talking this way without any background guarantees. The spanish media is doing a great job covering these things, not to say that english analysts/content creators/media arent doing a good job, but they are missing out on some of the details that the spanish media is picking up on. Maria wouldn't even entertain mentioning teams, yet when they asked her Colapinto's chances to be in F1 next year, she said 20. There is something there.

[@kb5509]

Watching a publicly available interview is a scoop now?

[@polyethylene87]

@@kb5509 if it's not covered by 75% of the media, then I'd say it is. who is talking about it? I just told you. LawVS mention this ? more importantly, Will he ? no, how about this channel, would it cover it? no, But if Helmut Marko says something about Oscar Piastri's manager Mark Webber, get ready for the 75% of the F1 content to be on the Piastri rumors to red bull and how he sees himself as a #1 driver. Meanwhile some strong things are happening and being said in Spanish that you guys seemingly are not privy to. and yes, it's public lol.

[@polyethylene87]

@@kb5509 and one more thing. Everyone was seemingly surprised by Colapinto's promotion from Academy F2 to F1 late season, however, in a publicly available video, this news was announced by argentine journalist Ruben Daray. Again, publicly available, but yet "no one saw it coming".

[@SDRaygon]

Back when Colapinto drove FP1 i was kinda having something with a girl from Argentina, she had no clue about F1, didnt follow it, and she live in Sweden, even she knew about Colapinto driving a FP1, so I will guarantee you the Argentinian hype about him is bigger than the sport, its massive

[@mattriddet227]

Can you bring back what if joined/returned to the grid please

[@TommoMcCluskey]

In the off season, absolutely!

[@TheOfficialMyk]

In F1 we should have 24 car grid. Add 2 more teams. Smaller and shorter cars. Back to at least V8s.

[@hanswurst6712]

Yeah, all of that would be great, but sadly it will not happen. :(

[@josefinab9031]

I really want Franco in f1 I don't care if Lawrence have to fire his own son I don't care if Lawson has to return to f2 of whorever I don't care anything but GIVING FRANCO A SEAT he deserves it 🙏🇦🇷

[@josefinab9031]

Also Im glad the chance they give to Bortoleto he is a winner, but fr all F1 circus give us too much hope an entire country is pushing that williams now and will be pushing any car he gets in ❤

[@Slipstream_merchant]

Why would Lawson go back to F2 when he’s a better driver than Colapinto? 🤣

[@josefinab9031]

@@Slipstream_merchant I was just being ironic, all rookies proved well but Franco is my favourite for many reasons

[@tiinah5602]

I’m so sad to see Bottas go, especially as a proud Finn. He deserved much better from his last seasons in the sport, that shitbox of a Sauber screwed him up so badly

[@mgers75]

Colapinto is heading to whatever they going to call VCARB next year. Or perhaps even Red Bull?

[@TheDavara29]

i think lawson has to get that seat at VCARB if checo doesnt go out

[@mikolaygrudzien8764]

Colapinto may be better off at Williams - they see something in him and will probably move him into Albon's seat. To me Redbull is shaky, they have had high staff turnover and Verstappen may follow Newey sooner than later. Redbull do not seem to want Tsunoda, that leaves a lot of openings, it may turn into a meat grinder for drivers at Redbull. Aston Martin is the team to watch. Lawrence Strolls huge investment is fast outgrowing son Lance and Alonso's years are running out.

[@Shapershift]

Bora, Bortoleto!

[@MelisTime]

12:49 a Korean Brand with a Chinese representative? Next to NK maybe the least ever possible 😅! Aint ever happening!

[@j.3o21]

Jack Doohan is a mistake from Alpine, and I'm Australian. He is defo not ready

[@WaveFlightSimulations]

Bottas to V8 Supercars or WRC like peter windsor hinted

[@juanpablofont3151]

franco should try to secure a seat next year, plain and simple, if williams loses him is 100% they fault, they gifted Sargeant with a half a year in F1.

[@Siegwaite]

When has it ever worked to come in through a trash team just to get their foot in the door, without a plan to work themselves up? Let’s ask Mick Schumacher how that worked out. I’m open to examples of how I’m wrong

[@gideonhenstra1049]

Russel and Charles?

[@snowtrooper8817]

Personally I don’t rate Hadjar very highly. His 2023 campaign should’ve had him out of the RB driver academy, as drivers with much better performances got the boot too. I’m convinced least about this year F2 as we’ve seen from Prema and their drivers the teams are very inconsistent with who is competitive. Maybe campos have got it right this year and he’s capitalised. Finally his FP1 outings were woeful. Miles off the back of the grid and getting in everyone’s way, especially silverstone.

[@fraserposford144]

So upsetting to see people like Perez still in a competitive seat while Sainz has had to drop down to Williams

[@sonyu87]

Franco needs to be in F1. He never had a good car in f3 and f2 because he is not a millonariar son like every other rookie with a seat. I really believe that Colapinto with a prema would have won

[@Telecasterland]

I would have gone with porcheere

[@mattriddet227]

Zhou to formula E?

[@sgript]

I have to disagree with Yuki not getting the RBR seat because of his temper. Think back to Max and his temper and many other drivers. I think teams need to stop being snowflakes, we as fans don’t want robots in seats.

[@willyhwang1059]

this means bottas is out ? who's partnering Gasly next year?

[@ccramit]

@@willyhwang1059 Jack Doohan is, another rookie.

[@Robalexe]

Jack Doohan, he's been announced months ago

[@joehynes2964]

I'm MEH regarding this news. Put Bottas in that Red Bull beside Max. Then I'll get excited.

[@j.3o21]

No mention of that dumbass Stroll ?

[@Robalexe]

What is there to mention? This is a driver market stream. Lance doesn't know what that even is, he's locked in for life

[@elnicoelnicoelnico]

I dont get it, colapinto is clearly a good driver but has really proven nothing special. He was also not near the top of F2 so why wouldnt teams trust in their own junior drivers instead to look at the lucky kid that has had a couple of good races? I think Bortoleto to Sauber is a great idea and a good development for who will be F2 champion this year and if RedBull can finally get rid of Perez why not look at Hadjar aswell alongside Lawson?? Has had a great year, have been falling asleep the last couple of races but still P2. Idk, lets turn the conversation towards some pretty awesome junior drivers we have in the junior formulas, there is a lot of potential.

[@slip13inc]

Bortoleto > Colapinto / Bearman / Lawson / Pouchaire / Doohan

[@joehynes2964]

Based on what? His nationality?

[@pasztorferenc6741]

@@joehynes2964 Based on F2 it's true, if he wins this year (otherwise he is behind Pourchaire)

[@Slipstream_merchant]

Lawson > Colapinto

[@willyhwang1059]

colapinto has regressed a little last few races

[@ccramit]

@willyhwang1059 To be fair, and this is coming from a huge Albon fan so I don't like seeing Colapinto so close to Alex, Colapinto lost his grandfather the night before FP1 at Brazil. Not to mention it was his first wet race in F1 and he had huge pressure from the Argentinian fanbase at the race. Mexico wasn't great, but even Alonso crashed out in quali at Brazil. Colapinto could have done better in quali, but this was his first wet weekend. And his crash in the race came during the worst part of the weather. Bearman didn't do all that well in the wet either. Colapinto is a rookie who joined in the last third of the season, he's allowed to make rookie mistakes.

[@candelaalarcon1319]

He just had a bad weekend on Brasil, but everyone has one bad race at least once 🙄

[@Shapershift]

Bro is a rookie. Did you seriously expect him to score a point in a track where he never raced before and during a downpour?

[@willyhwang1059]

@@Shapershift not expecting all that much to be honest. He's outdone himself already. If he can outdo Albon in the final races he should have a good F1 future.

[@smaspa8627]

Typical British Yuki slander