Bosch GWS 18V-15 SC vs Parkside Performance PWSAP 20-Li D4 and Parkside Performance PWSAP 20-Li E5

[@jackskalski3699]

phenomenal review. Love the temperature tests, cut length and perhaps the most the dissasembly!

[@icku]

Glad you liked it!

[@fuloplehel]

Great test video. I have the Bosch, and is a great powerful machine. Parkside on the other hand is cutting corners with every new model. The older ones are performing better, regardless of the tool, impact driver, or drill. Even the case material is weaker on the new models. I personally don't buy any new tool from Parkside anymore. But I think they are very good choice for hobby purposes. And on the bosch you have every alarm shown in the toolbox app. Even on drills, every kickback stop is visible in the log. For me bosch, all the time, even if is more expensive. 👍👍👍

[@fuloplehel]

@Synth Cat Maybe you are right, but in the most cases are videos that show the new versions are not performing as promised in the specifications. And the support is terrible. But anyway I am done with Parkside tools.

[@fuloplehel]

@Synth Cat I was thinking exactly the same, the conclusion is that cheap tools are not for me. You don't have to buy festool, or milwaukee. For example Skil make excellent tools but not that expensive. Bosch also offers budget friendly professional tools, not the heavy duty ones, those are a little pricier, but you can upgrade later and keep the batteries and chargers. But if you are a hobby user, Parkside will be fine.

[@fuloplehel]

@Synth Cat In my opinion Festool is overpriced. Fortunately I don't have that apple vibe, and don't like apple products. I think there are more reasonable tool brands out there. Hilti is another very good brand. But depending on your work you may need the most powerful tools. I am working in facility management and maintenance, I have mostly use bosch heavy duty tools, in both 12v and 18v platforms. But in most cases even the 12V tools can do the job very well. In my area bosch is available and the service network is present. But if you want the Apple vibe, go for it. For me a 300 usd phone is enough, it will do the same job as the 1000 iPhone. I like and have good quality tools, but there is a limit and sometimes the price is not justified.

[@macroy5611]

Parkside's biggest problem is the non consistent quality. In one case the same machine works great, the next one has a medium performance and the third one is far away from good. When you are lucky, u bought a good one, if not you have a machine what is far away from the capability such machines should have. Your test can show only your machines but not the big range in quality and power what is given with parkside. Probably this was also the reason why the D4 was more powerful than the E5. Your D4 seems to have a good quality, the E5 not. Other youtube video's show also tests of machines. In one video the machine performs well, in the next video the same model fails. When I buy a machine, I want consistant quality, for me the reason why Bosch is the clear winner. Yes, I pay more but i know what I get and I can rely on the quality. Also I do not buy such a machine every year, Better to buy one time something good and I have a long time fun than buyin again and again a new machine because of quality or performance issues. Bosch machines are tested and made for professional commercial use, parkside not. Differences in quality are often to find in details like tolerances, used materials and so on. Tests like yours cannot show these differences. The long lifetime of Bosch machines confirms the high standard, the more money is worth every penny (espacially when you count on a longer time period).

[@juliusvalentinas]

Bosch GWS 18V-15 SC is 280-370Eur how many LIDL grinders I can get for that money, if you do not like LIDL quality exchange the tool. I changed the 12V multitool 4 times until I got silent running proper one.

[@sergaljesus]

I would be terrified to use an angle grinder without a physical switch

[@Kibirotubas]

You can always disconnect the battery if something goes wrong with the button 😜

[@UnFox000]

Same

[@MotanTurbat]

One of the main reassons I returned the Parkside angle grinder. The membrane buttons are a no go.

[@nekron75]

The stalling problem might be a design choice to protect the motor from overheating. The more force you apply the hotter the motor gets (because it has to work harder) while at the same time it means less cooling (because the motor and thus the cooling fan inside spin slower). I think they did this because there is no real overheating detection (as seen in the app), to compensate for this they just lowered the max cut off amperage to hopefully have less RMA's due to overheated motor's.

[@impressz]

The perfomance of Bosch gws 18 -15sc is correspond to the 1500w wire anglegrinder . Said the Bosch official description. How many the parside? It is possible to the GWX 18V-10 SC is closer to parkside?

[@paweochota4688]

E5 has been made by OWIM, Kompernass or Grizzly Tools?

[@adamtomczyk2700]

Grizzly tools

[@sebastjanstrnad6251]

No idea why wouldn't they just fix the "rattling" sound and change the position for the button to change speed bellow the speed indicator, like on the E5. Would like to see how much abuse the power button can take on the E5 before it starts giving trouble.

[@djroskedjroske]

There is d4 version with button under speed indicator. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oIWzkpKLhJufa7c kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmTIk6R9eKZqprc

[@sebastjanstrnad6251]

@@djroskedjroske man parkside is so weird.

[@gry6664]

anyone knows what is this strange sound at 17:30 while the grinder is idling? i have this sound on low rpm with my pws125 f6.

[@icku]

Well I have explained it pretty thoroughly in the video what is making that sound :)

[@gry6664]

@@icku well uh, i might be too tired for this but umm.. mine doesnt have a break nor brushless motor either

[@icku]

But its still a motor with permament magnets in it. And most likely has the same crown gear and pinion :)

[@gry6664]

@@icku wait a sec. Are u talking about the clicking sound when you was turning the grinders with hand? Just because my F6 does not have that clicking sound

[@MihaSun]

Hi I wanted to ask you if the grease is inside the Bosch is NLGI 1 or NLGI 2?

[@icku]

Sorry, I have no info about that.

[@hendrikpingel4847]

think that some Parkside Tools have very different Performances: I had the old green one (first 125mm model). After it smoked up (after really hard use, was OK) I bought another Green one: a lot weaker than the older one... Same with the old green drill (1st one from 2018): still working after some abuse (for mixing mortar) and seems to be stronger then it should be. The one my friend has ist less good...

[@Avatarr3712]

Very good video thanks I have the d4 is very good but I feel the vibration and the battery in my opinion should be on the opposite side because it is not handy

[@georgiojansen7758]

my parkside is vibrating too much, when I change the quiklock for normal it's less

[@tstt34]

it's a protection that kicks in. isn't there an option in settings to increase load or turn off protection?

[@icku]

Nope

[@jkd7799Yann]

Thank you very much, fantastic review. You saved me from buying this new E5 version as i live in France :)

[@icku]

Glad I could help!

[@dansoisun6273]

I have and used A LOT the brushless, without speed control version grinder from Parkside. It's ABSOLUTELY MIND-BLOWING. It works insane. Too bad it doesn't have speed control.

[@zumbazumba1]

How about einhell axxio 18/125 angle grinder? is it any good?

[@StepperByStepper]

I think this is the best video from you so far! Great comparision.

[@icku]

Wow, thanks!

[@joaopedromagalhaes5193]

Thanks for the content! Can I know where did you buy the suport please?

[@icku]

The brand is Einhell just google it.

[@synix_6216]

could it maybe be the temperature differnce between the batteries? The one on the D4 was at 11° and E5 was on 3° Maybe the output current is limited to save the cells?

[@icku]

I thought so myself, but when i was filming it with the angle grinder stand it acted the same and the battery was warmer then.

[@kiky2h]

Can you weight it them?

[@-_Arturo_-]

I have D4 version, and I prefer normal switch, not electronic. Great comparision, thank you. From where you have an information what will be from parkside ? I'm waitning when pariksde figure out something like Milwaukee M12 FID2 :-) Because no one of volcano of intelekt there don't hit the idea of it xD

[@besample8136]

Great work 👏 thank you for sharing with us , God bless you

[@icku]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@nataliad6213]

Can you tell me what are you using to see temperature?

[@icku]

Flir C5

[@danieldeszcz8954]

Zajebisty film !

[@zumbazumba1]

A little bit about backlash -its not good when there is no backlash between gears on high speed gears like angle grinder has because it serves a purpose -a grease as head warms up goes in it and it lubricates 2 gears. As how much grease is enough -i put half of makitas hammer drill bottle 195127-0 for small angle grinder and i put full bottle in big one. So 15 grams for small one and 30 grams of grease for a big angle grinder.It doesnt have to be makitas grease -i use it because its cheap 3€ a bottle and it lasts very very long time -any lithium grease for gear boxes works as long as viscosity is 00. Why they still install sintered bronze bushings in 2023 is beyond my knowledge -its not like needle bearings cost a fortune.

[@hanf022]

Hello, Do you have any information about the new 40V Parkside performance chainsaw?

[@icku]

Not yet

[@hanf022]

@@icku Hopefully you will get one for testing, would be great.

[@davidfps18]

Awesome. So ill keep my d4, great performance for the price! That Bosch insides are thick! For sure the best tool for intense constant work. Strange on how they let the new E model roll out with such poor performance comparing to previous model ... Regards

[@tompaton2840]

Nice video, but the test is not correct, the battery cells in the Parkside battery are significantly inferior in terms of parameters compared to the Bosch battery

[@icku]

The price is also inferior, that's why is so correct :)

[@soisun2658]

That "break" of the rotation from Parkside, after turning off the power, to my grinder made the nut of the disc unscrew, because of the inertia, and the disc flew out in the air. This is absolutely BS.

[@haibike3340]

You have the Parkside Performance PWSAP 20-Li D4 and the issue are excessive play in the bearings and small cable. Excuse me but what ist the problem you make a test with standard and then bigger cables. The power includes 50, 60, 70 amperes and then these small cables. Make it better because bigger cables costs less then 1 EURO and the time for changing less then 1 hour. What is the problem and then we can show if the small cable is really a problem.

[@borislavpashkulov3786]

Здравей при какви външни температури е направен теста, понеже моя D4 при около 0 градуса автоматично спира, бутона за пускане изключва, ползвам го със по старите 4 ампера батерии?

[@icku]

Около -2 беше през деня когато снимах Бош-а и D4, а привечер снимките с Е5 бяха на -5.

[@borislavpashkulov3786]

@@icku възможно ли е при мен да го прави от това, че е със по старите 4 ампера батерии, защото на топло не спира?

[@icku]

А как точно спира. Понежа горе беше писал, че бутона го изключва. Самия бутон се връща в изключено положение ли или остава включен, но машината изключва.

[@borislavpashkulov3786]

@@icku да самия бутон се връща в изключено положение.

[@icku]

Хмм, не е батерията. Бутона при D4 е чисто механичен - само подава сигнал на платката да включи транзисторите. Но платката не го контролира обратно. Най-вероятно връщането му в изкючено положение е от свиването от студа на пластмасите на машината и самия бутон не може да захапе хубаво. Пробвай с тиксо да го залепиш или просто го задръж във включено положение и ще видиш, че машината няма да спре.

[@arthurharte7064]

WHY CANT YOU BUY THEM IN THE UK.

[@Woodie7]

Great review. Subscribed

[@icku]

Much appreciated!

[@krystian8508]

Thanks a lot for the vid 👍. Must say the E5 version does not look very promising. The performance reminds me of my Yato cordless grinder which stops extremely easy, even under a small pressure. It is really annoying problem, with a 4Ah battery it is almost impossible to use it without cursing all the time ;). E5 stops with 8Ah battery, so I guess with 4Ah it might also be very weak. The other thing is this double-click switch. I am pretty sure it will be irritating to use as hell. Clicking it fast twice wearing some thicker gloves might be a challenge ;). And I am impressed with the Bosch, it performs almost as a corded grinder. Unfortunately the prise is impressive as well ;). I live in Poland, at the moment I would get four brand new D4s for one Bosch in terms of price, and when I look closer on some internet sales portals, would make even six D4s for the same amount. For the hobbyist like me, the choice is rather obvious. As you said, D4 seems to be the winner hear, decent performance for a very good price.

[@Марлбороман]

В България перфоманс серията няма ли да я пуснат скоро?

[@icku]

Другата седмица ще пуснат разни черни нещица, до колкото вижда от брошурата им.

[@olgakom1]

Thank's ,but WHY are you comparing a professional tool (Bosch) whith 2 hobby tools ???? ( even Parkside writes on the manual "the tool is only for small home casual jobs " !!! To me the video looks more like an advertising for the Boch !

[@renedecosta1218]

Parabéns pelo vidio ,eu estou para adquirir uma ,mas agora sei qual é a melhor 👍👍👍👏👏👏🤝🤝 Ganhaste mais um inscrito 🤝

[@dvoz9023]

Would love to see a parkside battery kettle

[@juliusvalentinas]

Needle bearings are way worse then a bushing because it will damage the shaft, also it has more wobble. The Dewalt has grinder with two ball bearings.

[@dws1337]

Sponsored by Bosch, isn't it?

[@icku]

Take a look around my channel and then say its sponsored by Bosch 😉

[@dws1337]

@@icku I did ...

[@icku]

@@dws1337 well then you definitely need some glasses 🤣

[@dws1337]

@@icku people declining things very hard mostly want to hide the truth

[@iliyn79k]

Why do you use a thick sanding disc and not a thin one when cutting? No one wants to waste time, material and electrical energy overloading the machine. The resource is reduced tenfold!

[@icku]

And that above is the exact reason - to overload the machines. That's the purpose of the test ;)

[@blackbird9813]

Wow, great test, thank you!

[@icku]

Thank you!

[@skyilah]

YOu are not using a cutting disk on the parkside with the rebar and you expect it to cut ???

[@Stewie4238]

To test the overload. He done the same with Bosh

[@osaosatorsky]

why you testing parkside= for amator and bosch= for profesional ?? ist difresnt ligue

[@alexanderhartmann07]

Die Maschinen werden alle vom gleichen hersteller produziert, aber unter anderen Marken vertrieben...

[@pikas4]

Może E5 jest uszkodzona, to aż niemożliwe by tak kiepsko wypadła 🤔

[@Avatarr3712]

też tak myślałem gość ma jakiś prototyp może

[@icku]

Z Parkside wszystko jest możliwe. To nie pierwszy model, który nie działa zgodnie z oczekiwaniami

[@andrealoconte7613]

la seconda versione Park e' una PIPPA

[@ohnemar4285]

Typical case when it looks good on paper and on the price label, but when you want to use it it is underperforming as hell and you just suck with it..

[@arthurcurry850]

I just bought Cordless Hammer Drill PABH 20-Li B2 , Angle Grinder PWSA 20-Li D4, double 4.5A charger and 2x 20V 4Ah batteries for 210 euros total. My dewalt SDS XR with no charger or batteries costed me 390 euros. With that being said i gave parkside as a gift to my neighbor cause i just cant stand the lowbuild quality of it. B2 is terrible. Its like a toy that will blow in my hand. Hammer action is actually comical. I would use their tools only if im poor. And i understand that most of people dont really need professional tools. I need reliability on the road and Parkside is not reliable for heavy use. So this one is to my Park Man colleague that irritated me into buying this trash tools and i can only say one thing. Grozdan nemas pojma :D

[@vitalichj]

Parkside 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

[@diesel-td1946]

Beh, senz' altro la Bosch è migliore ma considerando le differenze di costo/prestazioni è meglio la Parkside.