Bosch IDS 2.0 5 ton Central AC System Install Using Stay-Brite #8 Silver Bearing Solder & Giveaway

[@MrDeviousdom]

I've been using staybrite 8 for years. As long as you're fittings are tight and clean, and use the proper amount of solder, your job will be golden.

[@allanwicklund7227]

I deserve a Hat because I'm 75 and still doing my own repairs. Your videos are a great learning tool. I'm also a Marine Corp Veteran who understands what Memorial Day means!

[@lordjaashin]

imagine some donkey saying memorial weekend as "long weekend".

[@popsmccartney435]

I have use Stay Brite 8 for over 25 years. Never any problems.

[@marks5320]

I’ve been using Staybrite for over 30 year love it and never had a failure.

[@lordjaashin]

on r410a or r22 system?

[@Dr3w29c]

Thought I was on acid while watching him braze the outdoor unit 🤣

[@picklerix6162]

StayBrite 8 is great solder. I used it when I installed my new HVAC equipment last year and no leaks.

[@richardcallahan8698]

Harris proves that 8 silver bearing is good for all connections, high and low.

[@thomaschatham9971]

Beautiful use of the stay brite 8, eliminating the necessity of the nitrogen purge. The folks in your area are fortunate to have an installation / repair artist of your caliber and conscience. I am from Houston and we seem to have quite a few hacks that are in the HVAC trade here. Keep the great work and videos coming.

[@johnschwarz8144]

I’ve used Stay Bright 8 for years and absolutely love it. Harris spec sheets say that the joint has more than a 10,000 psi tensile strength which is more than enough for an AC system. Cleaning the copper is crucial and you need to be careful using flux. Just need a light film . Never had a failure yet.

[@bingobingo6410]

Hey mike, I just installed my first bosch ids 2.0 5 ton unit about a month ago and I found that the directions are very literal about the "short press" of the force button. You can also check the discharge pressure and temperature without gauges and calculate a pretty accurate subcool reading with the board readouts.

[@Andreas-mg3hs]

I would love a hat to give my husband for Father's day! He is a hardworking hvac tech and loves watching your channel:)

[@OleRazzleDazzler]

good gal

[@OleRazzleDazzler]

it's hard to be the spouse of us techs... I respect you sticking around for my man

[@d.ricc6421]

I like to have that hat so I can sit with it on my head while watching the pipe doctor doing what he does best. I'm a residential contractor and I consider myself the pipe doctor of renovations and that hat resembles expertise at its best. Your one of a kind Mike and I think there is only a hand full of guys or gals who can do what you do.

[@houptee]

I have been using Stay Brite since HVAC vo-tech school in 1985. My instructor always said it is better than brazing and stronger. It also works with any flux so if you run out of stay clean don't worry.

[@Djsmiley77]

Thank you. Will flux contaminate freon? Do you need to nitrogen flush only while brazing or you need to do it while soldering as well? Why is then brazing used when soldering can do the job? Can soldered joints withhold 410A pressures and for how long? Is this just like soldering water lines ?

[@houptee]

@@Djsmiley77 stay brite 8 is silver solder not the same as the lead free plumbing solder. It has real silver in it. Look it up it is very expensive for a roll. The manufacturer Harris tested it and it holds stronger than brazed joints. No need to run nitrogen when using stay brite because you are not heating the pipe cherry red and creating oxidation inside the tubing.

[@richardcallahan8698]

@@houptee Very little flux is needed, so no problem!

[@metrotechguru5863]

Brazing or soldering, Mike is a master with the torch. Good work.

[@bradproctor6925]

I would like a hat as I watch every video you come out with! I am in maintenance and spent all my life in the HVAC industry before starting maintenance. You do great work and I love your ethics. You tell it how it is! Keep feeding us and we will keep watching!

[@jenko701]

I love the 12 hanging out of the box , not judging, I’ve done it myself for temporary.

[@johnbennett3906]

I use Stay-Brite 8 all the time.

[@philipwall1025]

Love stay brite,old timer put me on to it years ago.No oxidation, don't have to run nitro while hitting it.

[@firesprk]

I have been using for 3 years now. Absolutely no leaks. Nice on txv and coil changeouts.

[@Hodge215]

I deserve a hat because Mikey Pipes loves me and I love Mikey Pipes! Get it brother! 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼

[@1911loaded]

20 plus years of using stay brite 8. Never had an issue. And it perfectly fine for 410. Burst rating on it is 10,000 psi. People say you can't use it on 410 false there referring to back in the day when we did 22 with 95/5. Use 95/5 on 410 that shit I'll blow apart. It's a good product if done correctly.

[@joshuat2751]

Are toy saying that using 95/5 on 410 a will "blow apart?" It's literally the standard for 410a and any other systems that are not bi metal or water lines to use 95/5 lmao.

[@marblemanman4221]

Yo Mikey pipes! I thank you for always feeding the people! I deserve a pipe doctor hat because I started testin’ instead of guessin’

[@walterbordett2023]

Beautiful neat bends on line set at the air handler. You are really good with that bender. All the best to Steven.

[@jasonthejawman5442]

Godzilla your awesome, always shine bright were you are in life.

[@jamesbalderastx]

I've been pipelining for nearly a decade. Would love to support an industry professional by wearing your company hat 😂😂

[@Boston_canon]

hi Mikey, I'm a rookie who just entered the field, I really like you video for those bosh unit installation. I've refer your video for using staybrite8 joint connection to my senior tech supervisor since I can't stand staying another second in the narrow and scorching-hot attic during the summer. Unfortunately, our company still mandatory on brazing.

[@jeremymanning6967]

We use stay brite #8 at work on all our installs. Super easy to use and if you do get a leak it’s very fast to repair.

[@georgekolos5255]

Inspect all your joints with a mirror and flashlight 🔦 after doing and if you know what your doing there should be 0% chance that that joint will never leak. I haven't seen any of my 1000s of soldered and brazed joints leak for decades now. In fact I guarantee that none of joints will ever leak! Only debur also if no chance off burs getting into system. It doesn't take much to restrict an orifice or cap tube. Seen such a thousand times. Watching some guys push lines through some holes or sleeving insulation on with out putting tape or something on the open end makes me cringe. Filter/ driers also. Once you take their caps off or open the can they come in is not a time to take even a minute break! Get them installed and sealed on the system asap. Same with POE oil as they can suck up all the moisture from the open atmosphere that they can hold in as little as 9 minutes easpecially in humid environments. In essence you lost the drier part of it if you take a break after fitting it and not sealing it into the system 1000s of pro tips I believe I have. Hopefully everyone just thinks I'm giving good suggestions?

[@davidsmith5766]

Im a ASE mater certified Tech decided to install my own HVAC system Stay bright 8 worked great bad thing is had to buy 2lb roll and only used about a foot of it

[@crg061]

Where is Godzilla going ? I’m sure he can work while going to school, hell I did , lol. He’s a good guy, not afraid to jump in and get dirty. I think he’s a keeper, hang on to him.

[@yearroundhvac8057]

Good helpers can be hard to find . I know Godzilla gave you his best. I know you will miss him. Maybe the beast will return!

[@bingobingo6410]

I learned about Stay Bright #8 From Steve Lav years ago and love it. IT DOES NOT FILL GAPS, and the pipe HAS to be absolutely clean. But I find just find it so much easier and faster to work with in tite spots with its lower melting point VS brazeing. I Especially love it on mini split linesets that you have to run in walls. I trust that joint so much more then a flared one if your gonna stuff it in a wall. The Super techs will cry all day long about how you cant solder refrigerant lines with R410A and how its against code but the fact is that it works great

[@nlh8162]

We also insulate the liquid line on heat pump applications and we have to use UV to the insulation in the south.

[@ryanellett2409]

You soldered the liquid filter drier in a good spot but you did it first and left it open to atmosphere at condensing unit. You should always solder the drier in last. It has desiccant material in it that absorbs moisture. If you leave it open to atmosphere, within 30-45 minutes it can be full of moisture already. That’s why it’s the last solder joint in system. Also that suction line is the discharge line in the heat pump mode.

[@andrewludwig9251]

Mikeypipes - you really need to pull the valve cores before applying heat, even if you are using wet rag - it is just good practice and is easy to do.

[@potatolew4495]

@@Bryan-Hensley exactly

[@patrickhemken5722]

Good Luck GodGodzilla, unsure where you're going, but don't give up on education! Keep taking a night school class there is a lot to learn out there!

[@michaela1655]

Did you flush the line set? What are your thoughts about flushing a line set that contained R22 before reusing the line set for R410A?

[@ecruz1628]

The other day I installed my own 5 Ton unit and did some research on that and some people advise me that flush is not necessary the deep vacuum will clean the linesets I think is true because my old system was 12 years old R22 and now 410a with no problems at all

[@bruceelias4401]

Thank you Mike Always learning a lot from you, Thanks again

[@3740westmichigan]

Love the Stay-Brite works great !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@jcforward741]

I deserve a hat because of this quote: “To do hvac, you have to be pretty smart. But to do hvac, you also have to be pretty stupid”. Lol

[@mikeholubek4419]

I thought I was having a Stroke trying 2 focus. Thanks 4 fixing that

[@mikebarron4929]

Forward my regards to godzilla from Scotland he was one of the good guys and a great asset to your channel he will be missed.all the best in your new venture

[@jamesedward8614]

I need a hat because I love Mikey Pipes, and Mikey Pipes loves me...🤣

[@jasonthejawman5442]

Stay - Bright Sliver #8 great product

[@andrewsimon5437]

I deserve a hat because while i;m not a contractor, i still obtained my EPA 608 and do my own repairs!! Nice job Mike!

[@potatolew4495]

Do you have a type 1 or2? That test can be passed by anyone book smart and basically has nothing to do with tge actual testing and repairing of air conditioning systems, it only pertains to the handling of refrigerant. I give you props for passing it but does not make you a tech.

[@andrewsimon5437]

@@potatolew4495 I never claimed to be a tech

[@ecruz1628]

I told you yesterday about stay brite 8 MAMA very easy to work with but make sure you wipe your joints well so that you can perform a visual check for gaps and holes

[@winkhvac62]

I deserve a hat because I was the only saw that suction line slide back before your soldering right on the elbow.11:31

[@dinoconect4484]

I seen it too. lol

[@frickfrack8685]

I always thought the Flux would react with the refrigerant oil?

[@georgebrabec1749]

It won't, if you don't try to smear it on and then try to burn the piping. Just a little is all it takes. Then wipe the joint with a rag to remove any residual.

[@chuckquinn8026]

Godzilla maybe had a nervous stomach being it’s his last day I’m thinking…glad we will still see him time to time…BTW, us bald seniors can always use a Pipe Doctor hat, just sayin…

[@xincai951]

Do you normally not weight the charge in? What’s the line set length vs how much 410a you added? Did it match the Bosch manual 0.6oz/ft?

[@brandongaffey4557]

Been in the trade 11 years love your video. You test our your guessing.. I want a hat..

[@ZackFletcher1]

You can't tap a 120 volt circuit off that 240 feed unless the the new unit is 120 and you swapped the breaker. Can't use the ground as a neutral and can't fuse a 15a receptacle at 30a.

[@WswRefrigeration]

I’ll take the hat because it’ll cover my head from the sun when I’m doing all the rooftops. It’s a good looking hat too

[@joehomanick]

That’s a really nice ac unit ... what’s up Mikey pipes !!!!!!!

[@kevinpoore5626]

Well if you can't keep the Zilla can you at least borrow them every now and then you have a big job lol I've actually been borrowed once or twice because of my skills but y'all keep on keeping on and I hope Zilla enjoys his life choices

[@mikeobrien9404]

Why didn't you use a long radius elbow on the suction line?

[@nlh8162]

Use American Standard and Bosch both depends on the application I do like these day bright 8 Have it used it in a while Guess we have given another try we were concerned about the flux getting into the system You have any thoughts on that maybe I could get a response back from Harris. Normally we install the heat pump dryer even on the air conditioning only applications

[@genepierson1728]

thanks for sharing this. ARe you using Mapp Gas or propane?

[@kg4muc]

Did you still flow nitrogen while doing the soldering process?

[@Mercmad]

In Australia it's tradition for the person leaving to set up the BBQ and supply enough drinks for the crew. It's called "giving a Shout". So 'Zilla ,if he were in Australia would be 'shouting' the boys ,beer and steaks.

[@dhinton8127]

The suction line becomes the discharge line on a heat pump therefore hot gas high pressure.

[@vedodesantis4414]

That was nice I like the beads brother looks good looks excellent

[@XphirephliX]

Hey mike I install Bosch all the time the short press is literally like press and let go immediately if you hold it down longer than a tap it give you headaches like you were having.

[@tparente85]

Hey mike representing ri here love your videos nice to see a fellow hvac brother doing it right keep up the great work!

[@jeremylawrence8735]

I deserve a pipe doctor hat because I work in hvacr and I love watching Mikey pipes #FeedThePeople #FeedMeMore!!!!!

[@06GOAT56943]

Another staybrite 8 guy 😂. Is your favorite dinosaur hackasorus?

[@mac4267]

I deserve a hat because like you Mikey making money keeps me from getting a haircut. Would love to see an educational video made by you about using that hvac friendly solder you showed, found it at my local supply haven't got a chance to try it dont want to waste it

[@mac4267]

And this is why ladies and gentlemen you watch the whole video and then comment. You predicted the future

[@ApartmentMaintenance]

Stay Brite 8 is great, just gotta make sure you clean the copper really good, no gaps & use minimal flux! Great install Mike 👍 Keep up the great content 💪

[@clintgray1623]

Long turn 90’s would be great

[@georgekolos5255]

Mikey P. I have that yellow jacket swaging tool also that I don't like to use any more. Especially on 3/8 as it only makes like a 1/4 inch deep swage with notches on the swage if you look at it. Quick tip after first press rotate tool a quarter turn and press again to make it round looking easpecially if soldering that doesn't close gaps as well as brazing. I'm an easy spin swagger kinda guy these days up to 7/8" Makes a good 1/2" deep perfectly round swage and heats up the copper burning hot while doing so. A simple drill attachment I wish I invented! Before we used to put pipe into a flaring/ swaging block and hammer a swage into pipe. BTW way same sort of drill attachment to make perfect flares these days in seconds also

[@glennturner3036]

I am newbie and I need to keep the sun off my reseeding hair line!!! Oh good video!!!!

[@prrin1971]

Great work as always. I like collecting hats but as I don't wear them I hope whoever wins them gets good use out of it

[@eddiew.6485]

Nice, clean Solder connection right there!

[@htroberts]

that looked an awful lot like a plumbing ell... did you get all the type L out of the system?

[@frmerrin2]

Never used Stay Brite on 410A I was told years ago to always braze so that's just the way I've always done it.

[@andrewludwig9251]

I’ve installed around 500 R-410A units with StayBrite 8 - no leaks- good prep is key

[@georgekolos5255]

Refrigeration guys that I do for my living along with AC would never use staybrite! Water lines a different story. 15% "sil fos# always! Silver soldering a different story. Physically stronger than soldering with no flux needed and even if pipes are not 100% clean will guarantee for lifetimes never to leak + you can bridge gaps/ repair holes in pipe with it which I've done thousands of times with minimal cleaning Cheaper it is, it doesn't require oxy/ acetylene to do, but how many people do it properly and not contaminate system with flux. Maybe it doesn't even require nitrogen purging whenever possible that a good tech/ installer would use for brazing I'm old school still learning even after 30yrs doing this. I'll never touch a CO2 system but cringe at people who do and would think to use staybrite for such pressures. Back yrs ago when 410a "Puron" came out new procedures said specifically not to soft solder because of higher pressures. Apion selling vacuum pumps advertising oil changes possible in the middle of an evacuation!?? My 20+ yr old JB still pulls way below 500 micron on every job. I replace her oil only after evacuating a few burn outs! I use the ballast valve on it on every job to preserve it's oil! Something few people I see use or know about Cringe even more seeing supply houses like Johnstone advertising shark bite like push in fittings for HVACR! Double O rings y'all! Scary 😨

[@georgekolos5255]

Mikey I'd hire you but I'd tell you that after seeing you flip breakers on/off so quickly to never do again! I learned the hard way a few times of doing such over the yrs. Many refrigeration systems and ACs require some off time for high/ low side pressures to equalize before the compressor can restart. Short cycling is not good! My lessons learned were that some units compressors never wanted to restart after such short cycling with constantly clicking off on thermal overload. May I reccomended a cheap circuit breaker tracer tool? You clip it on to live wires or receptacles with its adapters included and go to the panel or panels with it's receiver and go up and down the breakers and it beeps like a leak detector does when it's on the breaker you're looking for. Lots of time and hassles saved by not shutting off people's computers etc. Mine is Zircon brand. Many others like it I'm sure. Old school me used to just intentionally short to ground and look for the tripped breaker! Love your videos for my entertainment and hopefully no offense to you about my comments

[@lordjaashin]

@@georgekolos5255 will harris safety silv 56 work for copper to copper joints in r410a system? i like using this compared to silphos 15. it flows really really well compared to 15% silphos. its melting temperature is approx 630c, which is lower than silphos 15. which is a plus in my opinion as it helps prevent overheating sensitive parts when making joints around them. sure it is expensive than silphos 15 but i love how much fun and easy it makes brazing a joint

[@brandonmcmillan8820]

I deserve that hat as payment to keep hush hush to not call the electrical inspector about that free air electrical splice you got coming out of that panel in your shop!

[@blkhomer9401]

Godzilla will differently be missed

[@jblaze0382nj]

I work for a company that would never pay to use stay Brite 8. I need to come work for you pipe doctor. You need any damn good boiler guys? I'm in middle island ny

[@jblaze0382nj]

Close to medford work for Mr Pipe

[@97Napkins]

Why you didnt put in Carrier... I have very little issues with Carrier so i dont mind the extra cost. The Carrier Condenser looks way better next to that Bosch.

[@scobar0076]

Mike, what type of copper is that one you used on this job?

[@ccos50]

Love the videos and all your work. Soft soldering even with stay bright 8 is not good. Found out over time the oil slowly makes the stay bright porous and refrigerant leaks through. After 25 years in HVAC, brazing is the safest most durable way to join copper. Keep pumping those videos brother. Enjoy them so much.

[@716applianceguy2]

Nice video mike sorry late to the party I was replacing my own system today

[@billniewender2358]

Mikey pipes those wires coming out of the top of your panel in the beginning scene with Godzilla your better then that haha jk keep up the good work

[@billniewender2358]

If you need help you can reach me at 516.....

[@christopherdelon3026]

Does soldier hold as good as braze?

[@philipwall1025]

Love stay brite,love your channel even more mikey!

[@arielhernandez2911]

What happens if u can run new line set and it’s the line set that’s leaking ?

[@alfredkauth3128]

Mike, What is the story with that wire hanging from your shop electrical panel????

[@petertorressr7725]

I always watch you every video.

[@northernliving2387]

Mikey look at a ladder lift for lifting what you need to lift. We use one for lifting shingles, and building materials to the roof.

[@MOAONAABE]

i replaced my 30 yr old trane last summer, with a carrier and a matching a coil. that thing stunk like compressor oil 4 months

[@kevinpoore5626]

Yeah well it's me again LOL just starting the 4 day but did you look into the duck jack to solve your situation on the elevated condenser unit

[@kevinpoore5626]

And just throw this one in are you keeping your boots dry

[@rruizproductions]

I thought you were going to giveaway Kev’s crescent wrench. lol

[@anneriordon4131]

That be one hell of a party

[@cd-stephen]

I thought with Stay Brite you only needed propane, maybe map. but B tank would still be too hot and you would still need nitrogen. Can someone explain this to me.

[@aamirshahzad8060]

I want that hat so I can promote your business. Coz i live in valley stream , two block from your shop.👍👍

[@stevenk6574]

What’s a ballpark price for that unit installed 8-12k or more?

[@evan-edstrom]

I was just reading through the stay-brite literature. They claim it is better than brazing because the lower overall working temperature causes less annealing of the base metal (i.e. copper). Normal brazing weakens the overall connection even if the actual brazed joint is strong. So the claim it shouldn't be used on the compressor discharge may be just hearsay. I'm not speaking from experience though, just what they claim.

[@chuckweatherford1601]

why no filter dryer at condenser unit

[@patrickhemken5722]

Why I need a Hat? Because of the 2 other I use, I can never find when I need them! There must be an app for lost hats?

[@milanlipovic7349]

It’s about time that one of the guys I watch installed a Bosch I’ve installed 5 and I’m a greenhorn 🤓 free hat cuz I am a greenhorn and installed Bosch unit’s and I want to represent the great Mikey pipes

[@raymondjacobs8429]

Love is all around Steven, " Aquarius". Looks like you GAVEAWAY "Godzilla". Wet rag 1, Soldier 2?