Bosch IDS 2.0 Replacement System Installation in One of the Worst Attic Working Conditions Ever

Existing Ruud 2 ton R410A system developed leaks in the evaporator coil and client elected to replace the entire system with the best available. Bosch IDS 2.0
Watch as Stephen AKA Godzilla brazes for the first time ever on an EXPENSIVE condenser! Am I crazy? You bet! I'm fcuking nuts!
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[@garyrobinsonAFD952]

Mikey you absolutely kept it together with Godzilla. I would not have been so nice. Just a suggestion I would have him paid for the refrigerant to refill the condenser. You might have done that off video. Godzilla needs to go to school in the evening to learn HVAC. In my humble opinion some people just don't have the aptitude to learn on the job. I've been training FF for a long time not everyone is suitable for the job your trying to teach them. I give you lots of kudos for being patient with him. I don't know anything about HVAC however I'm teachable. I'm not so sure of Steven.

[@garyrobinsonAFD952]

Hopefully you won't have to cut him loose.

[@johnburk2012]

This guy is an idiot, When you take on an apprentice you take on the responsibly of them making mistakes. If you are a waitress and drop a plate, you don't expect the waitress to pay for that plate. Also New York Law "" No, employers cannot charge employees for mistakes, shortages, or damages. Only if you agree (in writing) that your employer can deduct from your pay for the mistake."" If you dont like him or he isnt working out then do the responsible thing and fire him. YOU took the responsibility of training an apprentice. I do agree however to get him into classes.

[@garyrobinsonAFD952]

@@johnburk2012 take a good look in the mirror and you will see an idiot.

[@patrickm3534]

@@johnburk2012 I have to agree. He knows he fucked up he said as much. He'll be more careful next time.

[@garyrobinsonAFD952]

@Flair Hickory that’s what they call me at the firehouse

[@henrywight4057]

Mike, dude. That was stellar. Absolutely the right way to handle this issue. He fucked up (as we all do) and you kept it together. You just bumped up a notch on my respect meter.

[@Nidkidful]

Godzilla also handled that mistake really well. He owned his mistake, let Mike know right away, and wanted to fix it. I doubt he'll make it again soon. People fuck up, but he made the right moves in dealing with it.

[@henrywight4057]

Yeah, he sure did. It takes good character to have the guts to own it. Good job Godzilla!

[@a.t.7021]

Patient teachers and role models like you make good HVAC techs and plumbers. Godzilla is lucky to have you. Thank you for passing it on. You’ve earned my respect. Mikey Pipes your the man. 👍🙏👍

[@lesleyboeder1798]

Don't think I've ever heard Mikey pipes grunting and groaning that much before

[@mustafachacha442]

I appreciate it how you say Yelling him it’s not gonna help👌👍🏻

[@MJSfoto1956]

I think our attic has yours beat for worst attic ever (1800s barn converted to house in the 1920s). Installer was shaking his head when he first saw it. But they did a great job. Hats off to all that do great work under less-than-ideal conditions. Really appreciated.

[@Zildjian242]

Damn that was content. You all are the real deal. Mike, the learning moment with zilla was classy.

[@michaelmcewan5074]

What a nasty attic job! Great work Saint Mike and Godzilla. I usually take out the blower and coil individually then fold up the cabinet and it makes those tight nasty places a little more manageable. Great work fellas, love the channel as always!

[@kevinpoore5626]

Godzilla is learning how to breed flame now LOL fire extinguisher nearby

[@GlenS123]

Like others commented we all screw up, its what experience is made up of. Him admitting it and you handling it well are both signs of professionalism.

[@anneriordon4131]

I appreciate saint mike immensely akways helpful and generous so tell a friend about MIKEY PIPES

[@cristinacastrevriojas2377]

Hey Mike! My husband had me watching your show now...., you guys got me laughing.. especially Gozilla messed up 🤦‍♀️lol. We will definitely be watching this Great Videos!

[@sheedog27]

Wow, I give you kudos Mike. Great job and patience with Zilla. I love your content, I watch all I can. Sorry, I rode you yesterday. I watch guys all day long criticizing and degrading fellow workers, not critiquing and helping. We need to build the next generation of hands on techs. It’s embarrassing the males of today. Not a clue on how to hammer a nail, never mind brazing copper. Keep up the great content.

[@mjalco7410]

If we dont teach someone right from wrong, then the responsibility is on us. Everyone needs to learn and nobody knows everything. We all need to have have a slice of thee ole humble pie from time to time. Nice job always learning from your videos

[@HVACingMyWay]

Gotta give it to you for dragging that thing out fully loaded I always take coil and blower out takes a little longer but much easier on the back

[@adrianhowley7754]

One word Zilla!!!🔥🤙

[@raymondjacobs8429]

He doesn't care He'll NEVER be back. DEMINIMUS! Snug those packings on the torch. Get it hot first don't swipe at it. Remember the HEAT draws it in. Steven is a Learner. Good Job

[@MRICE-qe4sv]

Good video. I also have cut the wrong line to a walk in cooler before. It was bad... 30+ lbs. live and learn. You should invest into the reverse bender attachment for your yellow jacket bender. A little pricey for a piece of metal but makes bending in tight spots manageable.

[@eddiew.6485]

Stand-up Guy, that Peter Smart 👍🏻

[@karlschoen7297]

We installed a 5 ton heat pump and 100thusand natural gas a month ago very quiet going to try to do more. Ooohhh no Godzilla , not as bad as what I did 16 years ago drilled into a 10 ton hanging a disconnect. And yes got my ass handed to me. Keep the videos coming

[@nicholasgardner1106]

Great video, that attic was a giant cluster with all that crap running everywhere.

[@johnbananas5996]

You’re videos are fantastic. Very helpful and educational. 120 microns. That’s insane. Those blue hoses make a difference. It almost looks like you collapsed the liquid line at the air handler. I didn’t watch the whole video so not sure. But amazing job, keep up the great work.

[@Omar219s]

Mikey pipes! Bless me with some bad bunny tickets! The number you see on the display of the Bosch unit, without hitting any buttons, is the percent capacity that the compressor is running at

[@jimmyp5487]

Godzilla movin on up... good job I’d take u to work on any day I could🤘🤘

[@edwardtabor77]

Mikey, you did a good job with the teachable moment. I taught various medical procedures in nursing school (I’m a 25 plus year RN) and, although not complicated to me, to a newbie it could be (such as enemas, catheters, injections, sutures and the other nice things they do to ya). You were calm and a very good teacher. Yelling just frustrates and pisses the student off and they block you off.

[@The-LongRoad-Home]

Ya braze only flows where the heat goes🙌🏼

[@denverlewis5087]

Brazing, not the same as soldering, a little more heat on the line will make that silver solder flow better. Only time I ever heard my boss cuss (he was a church pastor) was when our install crew cut loose the wrong unit at a church. You handled that really well, good job.

[@jasonthewiczman5442]

That's You Thee Mikey Pipes Very awesome Video introduction

[@jefferygrady3181]

Your patience with Godzilla will reward you with a good technician in the end but you need to keep pushing him to do better! He admits to his mistakes and that is good! Now he has to learn from them and not repeat them! Great installation not so rough as attic installations go ! Better now than in July!

[@northernliving2387]

Oh good lord, they did not leave you much room.. I'm going to send you a postage donation Mikry Pipes. Thank you gor the stickers.

[@wd8557]

Nice video. Should also have Godzilla practice brazing on scrap copper in the shop to hone in his skills.

[@jdmcrna]

Great job!!

[@AaronCo29]

The rose bud works really well on bigger pipes, I usually carry a #4 tip to do up to 3/4 and 7/8, but if I am doing commercial work were it is 1 1/8" I will use the rose bud tip

[@couldabin]

In the words of another famous KZbin plumber "what a sh*t show Momma!" Great work.

[@acunlimited9683]

that job is hero work Mike, great job

[@mrtryhard1996]

“What are you a fucking blow torch like Rambo” 😂😂 tough attic but turned out nice.

[@jeremymetcalf2502]

Watching him braze the filter dryer had my butt clenched so hard. "Too close! Move it around! It's burning a hole!" 🥵

[@jeremymetcalf2502]

@@PipeDoctor Not hating that at all. I appreciate your patience and your willingness to look past minor things to focus more on making sure he learns properly. I might be starting a helper job soon, and I hope my ride along is as chill as you Mikey.

[@pipepro3131]

Mike nice job as usual. Use mars disconnect with built in surge protector also weigh in charge and remember you do not need gauges to charge Bosch 2.0 use circuit board much more accurate than your gauges.

[@danobrien3109]

Big stones Mr. Skinny Jeans you owned up to your mistake. That shows true character and I’m absolutely sure you will learn from and not make that mistake again. Now be a good fella and buy the Mikes lunch. 👍 👍 🇨🇦

[@TheWittyGeek]

"And they should". Lol. And then no one gives him any crap. Godzilla has mastered the craft of public relations.

[@davefrattaroli5804]

Godzilla, if you heat the bottom of the fitting, you shouldn't have to move the torch all that much. Start with the heat at 6 o'clock and the most you'll have to move is to 8 o'clock and 4 o'clock. Start with the brazing rod at 10 and/or 2 and it should flow nice for you.

[@davefrattaroli5804]

No, you're a good teacher. Lots of patience for sure.

[@BrickTop900]

@@PipeDoctor think you explained it pretty well. Just takes practice.

[@chriscarollo8103]

I've watched a lot of your videos and I'm very impressed about your workmenship but with this install you took a shortcut. By bending the line set and kinked it. I was disappointed that you did not fix it properly. Sometimes its better to take your time then to work fast. Keep up the good work

[@RAMSEYgsd]

I also notice the kinked high pressure 3/8” copper line by the air handler.

[@yakkiebush5671]

Tough one but great job. Cut out them cigs lol.😂

[@sydsyd]

Whats with all the wires?

[@Mercmad]

looks like a scene from a chrome plated terminator movie. The Filter needed changing, Godzilla knew what he was doing. 😉 but his end should have been reamed besides the pipe .

[@sare383]

Good job. My boss is the same way when I mess up!! Maybe zilla should change hands when brazing.

[@KurtMGibbs]

It's nice to see you make a teachable moment from Godzilla's mistake. As you said, he needs to do his homework, as it seems clear that he is lacking some background knowledge in HVAC. Stick with him, he'll get it.

[@chuckquinn8026]

Gotta just say you guys are scaring the crap out of me brazing without safety glasses...and I have no clue how you both handled the air handler swap out 😂😂😂...you bring up a good point though: when you sell a new system, do you normally include a 10 year parts and labor warranty? I got one with my Trane S9V2 furnace and A/C...curious

[@benjamintimmins1656]

Hey the only way we can learn is by doing...you have a lot of patience. Good job btw. I might look into that bluvac micron guage...

[@benshurdhi3003]

Hey Mikey there is a test button on that bord and I've seen as high as 12 amps on that heat pump when it goes full capacity it depends on the load inside so much for efficiency on that especially if you are not using heat pump option.

[@henrywight4057]

Love the Bosch

[@solamandavid8044]

In Refrigeration cycle it is necessary to debur and clean the sharp edge cutting whenever you cut Copper pipe by any tube cutter so the oil and Refrigerant liquid could flows easily and passes back to condensing units easily .

[@JE27898]

I'm suprised you didn't break the air handler down. Great job . Nice install.

[@JE27898]

@@PipeDoctor i hear that

[@albertlevet119]

Another good and informative video. Mike, the new Bosch brochure describes the 2.0 as able to modulate between 36 and 130 % compared to the brochure it replaced which indicated the 2.0 would modulate between 25 and 110 5. Did Bosch change compressors for the 2.0?

[@albertlevet119]

@@PipeDoctor Understand. The low amp usage is an attractive feature

[@ks7612]

Shit happens man just fix it and move on cant let the whole fucking day revolve around it you handled the issue good mike

[@chadmerritt5557]

You do know that you can take the blower fan and the coil out to make the air handler a little lighter!

[@fatcat-hc4pj]

Have you installed any Bosch mini splits?

[@ronaldzeigler9057]

Love the natro.

[@normanboyes4983]

Good video, however it may have been prudent to let Steve practice on scrap in the shop before going ‘live’.

[@REDDOGLewiston61]

That's craze !

[@bkoz319]

godzilla better hide the EPA police are coming for him. Critical mistake.

[@bkoz319]

@@PipeDoctor well only one way to learn. im sure he will be triple checking it before he cuts the rest of his life. glad he did it on your dime lol

[@Ageehvac]

Dang G...you started him off with the rose bud huh?....you gone learn today.....HVAC on my guy....

[@pjkillaastudlovin]

Why did you break R i always tell the guys to break Y because you want to have some type of air movement. You'll know when you don't have cool air blowing out of the vents. Personal preference "Tell Godzilla keep up the good work he'll get it the more he practices!"

[@eldoradoboy]

LOTS of DIY low voltage wiring?? Oops!!! lots of units lots of pipes.. have to work smarter (even if it means slower). to double check.. learning to braze is a huge skill.. Godzilla you are doin it!!! awesome!! Let the pipe melt the rod not the flame

[@atlasfueloilinc.2421]

IS that a fire breathing Godzilla I see. Rose bud is over kill. Tiny tip acetylene has more control. Well worth the watch. Great video

[@edcicione]

I agree

[@henrywight4057]

Scale is important. If you’re not weighing you’re guessing. Maybe Explain hydrostatic tanks to good old Zilla.

[@ajbuyckes850]

Just for future references those evaporators and drain pans are able to be flipped for either orientation.

[@joemartinez7765]

Got an install coming up, same everything. I use both; liquid gel spray and wet rag. I only use wet rag once and through away. If you have not cut the WRONG line set; you have not done enough installation's.

[@marvinhaglar1973]

Be careful of those gorilla condensate emergency drain pans, they dry rot and brake. I don't use them anymore. Love the videos.

[@taglebaez4869]

Eso es todo....saludos

[@HvacGregG]

Good. Vid

[@hellendohora367]

mike was the liquid line kinked at airhandler in attic?

[@shawnkauffman5537]

you sounded like the bad guys from. Home Alone. LOL

[@tomvanbuskirk29]

I’m jealous of how quiet that seems.

[@russellmyers934]

I learned basic electronics soldering in order to get better at my hobby, which is collecting and restoring pinball machines and classic arcade games. Good soldering is a must for that. I practiced, A LOT, on bad/discarded parts before trying on PCBs worth hundreds of dollars. If I had just jumped in "on the job" I would have fucked up too. Have Godzilla practice off-hours using scrap materials under your guidance.

[@shupe1907]

only thing that could have made this worse (harder) was it being a steaming hot day. At least you had weather on your side lol

[@johnszymanski548]

You can wire the ahu to 2 stage cooling . And the unit will stage up and down according to the blower speed

[@8799crosby]

Just watched the Bosch video , love those condensers , pretty much all we recommend at my company .

[@ILikeMetricMusic]

Does the 3/8” line @47:05 look a bit odd? Also it was great you used the “oopsie” moment to teach :). Overall great video thanks

[@johnszymanski548]

I bet he had something in his underwear after he cut that lol 😂

[@abcdefghi2175]

nice that you didnt get mad at your help 4.5lbs of r410a lost what we have here is failure to communicate tight attic my back hurt just looking at it make GODZILLA pay for new drier and the 410A he wont be so quick to use the tube cutter next time

[@gerard46ify]

tighten up the gland nuts on the torch valves and see it will control much better!

[@christiaanrijks]

Hi Mikey, Why they have so much heatpumps by every house there in your state/country can't that be done with one or two heatpumps? And when I see dose attics with all the flexducts and cable/wires I can cry 😢 Don't you haven't any inspection over there. Ps greetings from the Netherlands 🇳🇱 I love your channel keep on going.👍👍

[@petersmart1999]

I use 10 acetylene,40 oxygen easy to remember 10-4 good buddy

[@geraldschilli8870]

You really got to be kidding me!

[@anneriordon4131]

Like the BTC reference. safemoon

[@AaronCo29]

I know this was about 3 1/2 months ago, but I am seeing a lot of Elitech on Ebay, are you still using it and is it a waste of $$

[@amirnelaj4854]

Nice install! Mike, do you know if these condensers are compatible with different airhandlers or does it have to be matched? Thanks, appreciate any info

[@zack9912000]

Nearly every Air Handler should be matched with their own equipment designed for it. Run into a ton of mismatched equipment that are not designed to work with one another nearly all have issues. Especially Inverter systems Must be installed with their designed air handler for them to operate correctly

[@8799crosby]

@@PipeDoctor Bosch basis it’s capacity on superheat across the coil , 2 tons of air u get 2 tons on the condenser , it basically self matches . That’s y they only make 2 condenser sizes . It’s a great product

[@8799crosby]

@@zack9912000 Bosch is different , it ramps up or down to maintain a 47 degree coil , and a 10 degrees superheat , whatever u provide for airflow , 18000,24000,30000,36000 , it will match the capacity.they also can go a half ton over its max rating .

[@zack9912000]

@@8799crosby It is still an inverter system that requires a ECM modulating blower to match with what the outdoor unit is doing. Run into Bosch that are not working as desired. You can't just have a blower run full bore with a outdoor unit ramping up and down to meet load conditions

[@8799crosby]

@@zack9912000 the outdoor matches what the indoor in doing with Bosch .That’s y they make only a 3 and 5 ton condenser . While it’s probably stupid to get a single stage air handler with a Bosch , once airflow is established , The Bosch will live at that speed for good . Where it shines is 2 stage it will adapt to the airflow u throw at it .

[@jamesdowney8582]

What’s the benefit of the oxygen And acetylene my whole career we use turbo torches with acetylene Where is the nitrogen going and where is it coming out love your channel love your videos

[@michaelmcewan5074]

Less carbon build up inside the refrigerant lines during brazing. Oxy/Acetylene is much hotter and takes less time to heat up the joint to braze it reducing carbon build up (which clogs TXVs and cap tubes). The Nitrogen removes Oxygen from inside the lines (the Oxygen creates carbon when heated). Remove the shreader cores and the Nitrogen flow out the open end. Not knocking you just informing you.

[@ADOENDRA]

When you have a attic like this in Belgium they will think you are growing cannabis :-)

[@potatolew4495]

Sucks Godzilla had to make such a mistake on social media and be beat up by all the keyboard techs. Mike the way you handled that is the way I have handled things as people don't learn by constant yelling and belittling, to me that is only called for if stupid mistakes happen over and over. If that becomes the case then we know it is time to sever ties. AT LEAST HE HAD HIS BOOTS TIED TODAY!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 JUST HAVING FUN! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

[@solamandavid8044]

Godzilla Brother you should have remind Our Brother Mike to remember deburing and clean the internal sharp edges cut by Copper tubes cutter. That called " Present Mind " dear Godzilla 👍👍😇

[@arielhernandez2911]

Y do they do a ton difference thought u were allowed a half ton difference or am I wrong?

[@globeflicker9216]

Greenberg Supply! That’s the best place in Wilmington, De to find parts for Steam! In Stock! They are my goto every time. So yeah, I’m in Delaware.

[@globeflicker9216]

Mikey Pipes - Pipe Doctor Plumbing & Heating & Air They have great counter folks, too, know exactly what your talking about...the old school way!

[@Donjuan524]

Was that liquid line in the attic kinked?

[@RockoRocko-rz7kx]

That board scares me with the rain. I hope that part is water tight

[@n.harper2652]

Tighten the packing nuts on the touch valves will help.

[@josephtramutola592]

What are usually do is I’ll take the evaporator coil out the blower out and just bring the cabinet up and put it together up in the attic because my luck my helper puts his foot Through the ceiling.

[@markmonaco8901]

Whats up with 3/8 at 4705??

[@robertlamey7612]

At least it was flex. We have tons of super tight attics and it all damn hard pipe 😢😢

[@stevencarrillo3615]

A great way for Godzilliz to learn buy great name we have the same name