Bosch's New Mid-Torque vs M18: The Most Underrated Impact Ever

[@TorqueTestChannel]

The new mid-torque has been added to our list of tools that dont suck: www.amazon.com/shop/torquetestchannel I think Bosch model numbering their tools based on what they can do in forward tightening (which looks accurate), and leading with that number in marketing sells them short. It's an old school practice, so props for that. But likely makes it hard for the average buyer to compare the tools with the monster specs plastered on other brands today. The creator of this channel is working in product development for Astro Tools who also make impacts (air ones). Always consider multiple sources when looking at a tool!

[@thewalmartninja4825]

Pretty cool

[@jonathancorbett5917]

Love the brutal honesty in both cases.

[@Ben-wd2in]

Surely the torque claim figure would be >100?

[@TorqueTestChannel]

@@Ben-wd2in It doesn't scale well with cheap impacts going over 100%, which a no name Amazon impact that's actually pretty weak but labeled wrong could be ranked #1 impact in the world.

[@willc5979]

@Torque Test Channel do you want to test a snap on 3/4 electric impact (CT9100)? I'm also curious how it compares to my ct9080. I'm about to place the order for the ct9100 so it would be brand new. I also have a mg1250 (3/4 snap on air impact) I've been using for about 2 years if you wanna test that as well.

[@trevorm7013]

When you see the line of your favorite brand going above the others it’s like when your favorite team has the ball and their running down the field for a touchdown

[@guyfawkesuThe1]

How about a cordless ratchet from Amazon? Low cost too! kzbin.info/www/bejne/pWnVh2SCaa-Zas0

[@tomh9391]

🤘😎🤘

[@svgPhoenix]

*there

[@dandiegidio7729]

@@svgPhoenix *they're

[@TorqueTestChannel]

Lol what did I walk into.

[@GumbootZone]

It's not just this channel, but several tool-testing channels seem to often ignore Bosch and instead focus on other brands. Yet Bosch has a surprisingly good range of high quality tools that are overshadowed by Dewalt and Milwaukee simply because of name recognition.

[@hardtymz2517]

For Bosch's big tools, yea. But they're 10.8/12v line is just insane and equally well known! They don't have that uncomfortable fat grip and over spec'd like Milwaukee M12, and also dont have as many different tools as them but i found out, you don't need all that. Bosch 12v is like a driving a lower priced German car, not a ton of horsepower but what is there is so refined, it makes you not want to ever stop driving. The latest Pocket Driver got down to Snap-On 7.2v size. Epic!

[@buddahkz9980]

It’s the marketing that’s about it .

[@danabenjamin3300]

​@@hardtymz2517 those m12 grips are going to mess alot of people's hands and arms up down the line,I won't touch them anymore..lol

[@JeffDM]

I like Bosch, have several of their 12V drills and drivers back when they called them 10.8V, and I started buying their 18V 2-3 years ago, after not having any 18/20V tools in a decade. I'm not giving up what I bought but competitors like the M12 line had too many options that I couldn't ignore.

[@BichaelStevens]

Bosch is THE brand over here in eastern europe. We have a bosch cordless drill at work, and a dewalt jigsaw

[@DMSparky]

I actually think Bosch makes nice tools. It’s nice too see them investing money back into their cordless tool lines again. They were pretty stagnant for a while.

[@drewbrown9678]

I did too... until I bought the 1st generation "freak" impact....

[@bleyz3557]

​@@drewbrown9678 Yeah i mean freaks aren't something to consider but overall Bosch tools here in Europe are considered to be one of the top dogs among the brands like milkwaukee, dewalt, and they have been among most often used ones by professionals. Their lineup is in line with other top Brands out there so no suprise that one of the top brands has to perform at least somewhat decent. I wouldn't personally go for a Bosch, if anything i would rather choose Dewalt.

[@shazmodeus2795]

I love the Bosch high torque 18v-740. Looks like I’ll be adding this guy to my tool kit as well.

[@robertcasey3528]

Bosch is one of the most reliable and underated brands out there.

[@petemajor9132]

tools that go above box rated spec should be rated above 100% not capped at 100%

[@TorqueTestChannel]

We've done the math and a $50 air impact that makes 4x they advertised 60ftlbs would be ranked as the #1 tool on the market

[@JayGee6996]

@@TorqueTestChannel touché

[@CraigularjJoeWoodworks]

Definitely false. Purposeful under rating would yield a result in ranking that does not reflect the utility of the tool

[@stauker.1960]

​@@TorqueTestChannel F

[@djmidnightwolf]

One test I wouldn't mind seeing is the actual Lumin output on projectors. A lot of cheap ones have numbers that are high light flashlights but the actual major brands do not even advertise that high.

[@volvo09]

Because all the cheap ones have fake numbers. I used to work in IT and a few people bought cheap projectors and they were PATHETIC, could barely even see them with the lights out. You get what you pay for with projectors. They aren't cheap.

[@scottbionicnerf8727]

I'd like to see the flashlight that can also be used to start your campfire😎.

[@zacharyrice7334]

​@@scottbionicnerf8727 you mean the imalent ms18 the world's brightest flashlight 100,000 lumens to be exact

[@RandomGuy-qm3mg]

Thanks for the Bosch review! They do seem to consider ergonomics in their tool design

[@shogun2215]

I swear by Bosch tools and electronics, so seeing them perform so well and so consistently is a great feeling

[@fookdatchit]

add toasters and kettles, they perform for yonks (a long time)

[@davemcduckful]

@@fookdatchit I have a Bosch power hammer drill, mains voltage. It looks like it has been through hell and keeps on truckin"

[@ContraVsGigi]

Recently also saw a professional applience service guy saying that the Bosch dish washers are the best.

[@cowthedestroyer]

The only things i want to have bosh on it is anything fuel related whether that be injectors or fuel pumps electric or mechanical and appliances. Other then that its going to be a solid no for me.

[@ContraVsGigi]

@@cowthedestroyer In my case the one to only look at from far away is Dewalt. I do like my arms / hands to be functional, I saw some very ugly things because of bad/no kickback control in Dewalt.

[@Mattittas]

I've had the big, brushed, tired Bosch for about five years now, and it sure has worked great during those years. Sure; it's not as fast or light as the new ones, but for tire changes and other basic mechanic work it's been worth its weight in gold!

[@brianmoore1164]

Cool test and yes, sometimes lightweight is a big deal. I know that I will often grab a smaller battery for tasks that don't require max beans. Light, handy, ergonomic, and convenient are often things that make a tool one of my favorites.

[@SolversonRidge]

Woot! Finally some Bosch. Keep it coming.

[@davidfrederick392]

I found the Bosch 1/2" drill and 1/4" impact driver kit on clearance at Lowes for less than 1/2 price (under $150). They had two kits and I bought them both. The drill and driver both have been great, with long battery life and good power. Bosch didn't have a mid-torque impact when I bought these kits, but I'll probably pick one of these up since they do now.

[@francocalcagni9323]

I see many comments about Bosch being under rated, forgotten, or not well represented in stores or online. I think Bosch, and to a certain degree Makita, are brands that have a very large and well placed global footprint. As such, Bosch has not been marketing in the US, in the way it did 10+ years ago (and Makita also lately). For Dewalt and more so Milwaukee, the US market is their bread & butter. I do not know what their numbers are but they live or die based on their US sales. I personally believe that Bosch and Makita have so many markets to focus on that the US, although the biggest or among the biggest markets, history has shown them that they will only get so much in the US. All tools today are made in China or elsewhere, but Milwaukee is considered American, as is Dewalt, where Makita and Bosch are considered foreign. I think Bosch and Makita have come to realize that although the US market is large and valuable, no matter how much money they sink into marketing, storewide shelf space or other promotions, their piece of the pie will not get that much bigger. So invest a ton less, lose a few market share points but still make similar profits. the savings can go to other worldwide markets where it could make a difference.

[@engineer_alv]

your summary was pretty good. Sometimes I think Dewalt and Milwaukee are the GM and Ford of the power tool manufacturers: they rely on too much on their home market. There is nothing wrong with that but from what I've seen their prices are not exactly competitive outside North America. They spent a ton of money on marketing, all those shiny packaging artworks, ads and showrooms with 10X more powerful, 3x faster and 2x as durable printed everywhere don't come cheap. Makita is the Toyota of power tools, not exactly the most innovating anymore but it's always seen as a very durable tool and they reign supreme in key markets like Asia, Australia and Latin America while Bosch is the VW of tools, a super big conglomerate full of divisions that also happens to build very good tools but has to split their R&D budget on many other areas as well. Best selling in Europe with a strong presence in Asia and Latin America

[@saiiiiiii1]

Thank you for this review in the name of all Bosch owners 🙏 But why no double row battery like the 8ah in the test? Maybe I missed it in the video.

[@Ramboy2007]

I'm glad to see what my big Bosch clunky tests at now. 🙂 Bought years ago and it just keeps chugging along. Can see where the new smaller one could be handy at times too.

[@Bornintheseat]

Omg spat out my coffee when that pic of the terminator robot came up lol. Love to see some bosch on the channel. Wish the accurate modes factored into the score.

[@BillyTheTeen95]

Could you guys torture test and rank sockets? Both impact and chrome would be awesome! Brands like Snap-On, Tekton, Sunex, Mac, Cornwell, Pittsburgh, Gearwrench, Ko-ken, etc.

[@TorqueTestChannel]

Hard to get any real data from it. We can do universals though

[@BillyTheTeen95]

​@Torque Test Channel Just some ideas on what could be tested: tested failure at ft. lbs. vs. advertised failure (more for chrome), ability to remove rounded/imperfect fasteners, and just for fun, seeing how many ft. lbs. the sockets can take with a 3/4" or 1" gun (of course more for impact). Thanks for all that you guys do!

[@rabcarver333]

@@TorqueTestChannel Pinned vs pinless impact universals would be a great test.

[@volvo09]

​@@BillyTheTeen95 the problem with testing sockets is that it's very hard to get data... You can't just test a single socket out of the set, and you'd also need to test multiple sets of each brand because a failure doesn't mean they will all fail. The equipment would be complicated too... They'd have to get some seriously strong "fake nuts" made and hardened for every size, and find a tool strong enough to break the socket without the tool itself failing. In most cases you will break your wrench or breaker bar (especially 1/4 or 3/8) before your socket fails.

[@nst6563]

For all the negative responses here, I for one think it's a good idea. I'll leave testing the bolt and nuts details to those with the testing equipment. But how to test the sockets could be simplified. From each set pick the 3 or 4 most commonly used sizes (like 10,12, 14, 19). For the tool(s) use either the strongest tested or the most commonly used.

[@CrimeVid]

I very much like the Bosch power tools I have, (Drill drivers) they are light and even better, comfortable to hold all day, The most recent Makitas seem to be designed to wear holes in your hands, more powerful yes, but painful.

[@engineer_alv]

After seeing that old Bosch high torque tested I'm wondering if we are ever going to see the old school Milwaukee (2663-20) and Dewalt (DCF889) tested someday. Very curious too see which one of these was the top dog 10 years ago

[@mr.bubbles8390]

Great test. It would be interesting how the new impact performs with a 8 or 12Ah pro battery.

[@engineer_alv]

agreed, I thought Torque was going to get it done just for fun

[@friendlytoad6534]

Just picked this up. Things a beast for its size. Ripping lugs off all day this gets the job done withought killing my arm

[@painkiller8079]

Is it possible to install an 8ah battery? thank you

[@mariomarroquin-castro9401]

@@painkiller8079yes

[@YankeeCherokee]

Love it. Wish Bosch made more consistent tools (*cough their Freaks) to give them a better rep overall to catch on. Really hope you guys consider testing crows foot wrenches, since no ome can prove which is the best!

[@engineer_alv]

honestly other than their impact drivers (same with DeWalt) they have very capable tools. Their rotary hammers, miter saws, drills, circ saws, sanders and now their impact wrenches. They're all pretty good.

[@jaredappleseed7037]

Bosch is the most underrated tool brand, I'm gonna slowly switch over to them mostly because of the market failing to adapt their xlock system on their grinders, and they have the best batteries

[@Techprep23]

I think they trademarked it so if anybody wants to implement it into their tools I'm sure there's a licensing fee that Bosch would charge to implement it into other tool brands. I highly doubt anybody else is going to pay to borrow it when the quick release works just fine that Ridgid and Milwaukee use on their latest grinders. Especially since the X lock Wheels even Diablo makes are backwards compatible with the other Wheels be it quick release or even the old school scrench or even DeWalt with their Allen key instead of the scrench tool

[@donalexey]

@@Techprep23 Once you have tried X-lock you want look back.

[@jaredappleseed7037]

@@Techprep23 mhmm

[@HamiltonFord]

Makita has licensed X-Lock and I’m sure more will follow. Bosch have a good history of setting the standards for power tool accessories and features, such as SDS (1975) and AmpShare (2022).

[@Techprep23]

@@HamiltonFord I'm sure more will follow. But some brands like Ridgid just refreshed their grinder which I bought and love. So on the next refresh if Milwaukee has it I'm sure Ridgid will too. Where Ryobi will still use the quick release. Which is still a step above the scrench tool needed

[@Belaf0n]

A good video, for us Europeans, it's just confusing, as the US GDS18V-330 is the European GDS18V-450. Could you note that in the list? Many thanks from Germany. 330ft-lbs ~=450NM

[@Joethetoolguy]

The girth of the chonk battery 🤌

[@TorqueTestChannel]

Thiccc

[@patrickmorrissey2271]

Nice job. I like how you present the facts, and let me decide what features matter to me..... Lighter, interests me... That ability to set it, and it's fairly accurate to repeat??? I like that a lot... Not that I wouldn't use the torque wrench anyways, but... For my usage case, I don't need 800 ft pounds... Makita makes a bigger one than I carry, but I don't wanna carry that, and I don't need it anyways... This thing looked pretty cool.... Settable torque that actually works... That's intriguing....

[@PhillyFixed]

Ergonomics are underrated! The Europeans get it.

[@bobbobbi1161]

Well, Bosch is probably the #1 ease of use brand out there...

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Impressed the old dog just passed both in the 15 second test nice

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Good video as always @Torque Test Channel

[@KeepingitAnalog]

I am ordering it. Tired of all the Milwaukee hype.

[@davislinkcarrillo-mm3qj]

Not sure if you know or not but the Ridgid mid torque has been listed as 175 for quite some time on Home Depot. It’s not a sale price just a cheaper cost for the pin detent model

[@kevinhuang888]

Hopefully we can get torque wrench testing in the future.

[@chrisschott6455]

I know its not considered a profactor tool but I'm curious if the 8ah battery would make any differenceon this mid torque?

[@tdavey96]

It definitely would, and I wished it was tested here. I use bosch tools and sometimes the 200nm impact driver can't free a masonry anchor or large screw with the 4ah battery so I switch to the 8ah and it boosts the power enough to do the job. I've found across almost all the tools switching to the 8ah makes a noticeable difference.

[@Bshwag]

The thing I still like about my bosch 18v tools is that they just never seem to break down.

[@brianwelch1579]

Not as consistent as an Aircat for a wheel gun: on setting 1 all 3 that I have owned would consistently put 95-100 ft/lb with a short run. Input pressure doesn't seem to matter, old place had 165-180psi but even at home 100psi same result.

[@518TommyP]

great test...can you look into doing a test of all generations of certain models...interested in seeing how the oldest M12 fares to the newest...but would like to see other makes too..see how time has improved them..ty

[@itsunoshiyuga]

I can't believe it. I offered you my GSR 18v-400 (400Nm) before but you refused because I'm from another continent. recently this new model caught my eye. I checked it at the store and this weighted 40% heavier being similar sizes and only rated only 450Nm. could not believe it and you prove it. my next bosch tool as 400 feels too weak :D

[@engineer_alv]

The GSR18v-400 is a compact drill with 400 in-lbs, this is an impact wrench. Very different tool

[@itsunoshiyuga]

@@engineer_alv not correct. i own a very limited model which is an upgraded european gsr 18v-300. it was released in UK for a very short time. could not be found anywhere else

[@saigmundur]

I'm happy to see it doing well in this test. I bought this exact model a while ago. Have only used it once for changing tires on my car. But my main use case will probably be for big fasteners in wood construction. I bought it for it's small size and weight. Max torque is not my primary concern. I have yet to really put it to the test but so far it seems nice. Bosch have really been picking up the slack lately but are still far behind on marketing compared to the other big brands, even here in Europe.

[@KyleRepinski]

Would be cool to see anti-seize tested for how it effects torque and if it still effects the fastener after it's cleaned off etc etc

[@TorqueTestChannel]

@@ShainAndrews I think it's a good suggestion. People try to apply anti-sieze then use a torque wrench thinking the 100 it says on your wrench is still the same bolt tension. We use one of the few rigs on the interwebz that measures bolt tension, so doesnt care what your input effort (torque) is. Just tell you how tight the bolt is making the clamped interface.

[@TorqueTestChannel]

I'm not sure everyone who rotates their tires at home are as up to date on their ARP publications as they'd like to be. No doubt engineers have covered a lot of things the average person hasn't seen practically applied.

[@KyleRepinski]

@@TorqueTestChannel yep that was why I thought to ask you guys, you measure bolt tension. I also kinda want to see what the chainsaw impact does with the best tested antiseize 😂

[@KyleRepinski]

@@ShainAndrews did ARP test a half dozen different products? Or just reiterate boring k-factor math. And let's not forget the numbers stamped on the box (or I guess bottle) aren't always true, which is why this channel exists

[@SparxI0]

@@ShainAndrews what do you have against project farm?

[@GM-gc8gg]

I'd like to see the little Bosch tested with the 8Ah Profactor installed.

[@TorqueTestChannel]

Doesn't fit

[@GM-gc8gg]

@@TorqueTestChannel I have an old Bosch circular saw that wouldn't take what was the largest Bosch battery at the time: 6.3 Ah. You could take the saw back to a Bosch service center and they would make the mod that allowed the saw to accept the 6.3. I just did a little surgery with a Dremel and the battery fit and worked fine. So, I'm wondering if something similar would work in this case.

[@GM-gc8gg]

@@TorqueTestChannel Just got one. 8Ah fits fine.

[@GunnarsMassageoPizza]

@@TorqueTestChannel Strange.. 🤔 ..seems to fit sometimes. Maybe different regions? Here it looks like a double-stack ProCore: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lYfaZnSClJWYerM

[@saiiiiiii1]

It really seems to be like an american thing, that they prevent certain batteries to work wikth certain tools. I got tons of Bosch stuff and every battery and tool is interchangeable. (germany)

[@Troy-McClure81]

Still want to see The Greenworks branded stuff,I use my impact driver for household stuff the 2650lb modeland I'm sure wouldn't hold up to contractors but for a homeowner I've been pleased. Ty again for all the information.

[@alouisschafer7212]

You know what is really missing big time on your channel: Teardowns and a rating system based on repairability and spare parts pricing. Bosch and Makita will dominate then since Milwaukee and Dewalt is basically unfixable due to spares being too expensive or not available on their own. They often lump groups of parts together and you end up paying 100+$ for a complete wiring harness assembly for a Milwaukee when you only need the trigger switch or the battery contacts. I only buy Bosch and Makita because of that, I dont support overpriced mid grade tools that are a one time wonder you better break in the warranty period because you cant fix it yourself. In fact I have an old Bosch 12V drill from 2014 thats been abused and used a lot in general. My oldest Bosch tool actually. Recently opened it up cleaned it out and regreased the gearbox. The motor is actually completely worn out. A new motor is 16€ plus shipping straight from Bosch. How about that for tools that actually last and are worth repairing. Bosch and Makita are a bit slow and not as innovative as other brands (Bosch still carries quite a few brushed tools for example) but their products are well engineered and are often worth repairing. Take the GSH 11E demolition hammer. Absolutely indestructible hammer, the golden standard on any jobsite across europe. Well worth putting 2 to 3 service kits into aswell as an armature before its done. These regularly last so long when serviced they will wear away the commutator bars on the armature completely and thats rare these days because it takes a lot of runtime hours. All im saying is when the EU overlords push trough more Right to Repair Legislation for Bosch and Makita it will be buisness as usual, for other brands most certainly not. Bosch Powertools is a place where german engineering still shines which is a rare occurrance.

[@randallsensenig1075]

Saw all I needed to see, my dewalt is still at the top 😁

[@dandyer8351]

😂

[@TheJensss]

A bit to long, but seems like a okay tool and a huge upgrade from previous models from Bosch. Can someone confirm if this is the same tool as the Bosch GDS 18V-450 HC/PC that is sold in Europe?

[@engineer_alv]

It is the same tool. 330 ft/lbs are about 450Nm. Same RPMs, IPM and everything else

[@TheJensss]

@@engineer_alv Thanks. Same tool, only costing 80 USD more for now....

[@egongrun836]

I love when you test Bosch stuff! Pls also test the drills from Bosch. :) I would also love if you guys testet ALDI or LIDL Impact Wrenches like Parkside and Ferrex. (Couldn't find out which mothercompany is behind) Are they sold in the US or just in Germany/Europe?

[@-COBRA]

Kompernaß Handelsgesellschaft mbH

[@egongrun836]

@@-COBRA oh good to know. Thanks for the info.

[@friendlytoad6534]

330 is thier claimed tightening torque not break away

[@calvertschmued2920]

Is it possible for the dogs to ever get worn down from the constant beating they take, and what kind of steel are they made out of?

[@olgajoachimosmundsen4647]

Just bought a dcf892. I really liked the power, but after 30 mins of use something broke inside and it changed the sound. The power is still there, but that was disappointing

[@TorqueTestChannel]

They are click clackity as all hell

[@guilhermeg345]

I recently bought the dcf891 and was hoping much more refinement compared to a chinese impact wrench I had before. The Dewalt cost 3x more but doesn't feel like it does. The forward/reverse switch feels loose and doesn't click properly when on reverse. The chinese on the other hand gives a satisfying click in each direction. The brushless motor and gears noises sound identical. Where the hell is the so called Dewalt quality that I've heard about ? 😢

[@LOTPOR0402]

Half decent power in a compact package is more useful than more more power over weight and over sized

[@BongoLicker-ni4gk]

I’ve been waiting for this

[@theodorgiosan2570]

I've always wanted to see the eBay battery adapters tested, DeWalt to Bauer, Makita to DeWalt, Milwaukee to DeWalt, etc. I know at least some of them work but it would be interesting to see the power difference between original batteries and other brands. Real Makita batteries in the SeeSii impacts would be interesting too, given that I have some Makita drills and their batteries work perfectly in the SeeSii WH700 I have. Seems to make a bit of extra power but I'm not 100% sure. Another Amazon episode would be interesting as well, there have been many new impacts that have shown up since the last tests.

[@rockfordlandwehr2999]

Would like to see some of Menards Master force tools tested. I don't think I've seen hardly any videos on them.

[@FryChicken]

I want Bosch to finally make an electric ratchet already

[@Shorty_Lickens]

I like Bosch but my main complaint is the new 18 volt tools and batteries not being compatible with the old ones and thats an issue cuz I have a small collection already.

[@saiiiiiii1]

I don't know what you mean. I have profactor and non-profactor batteries, working on all Bosch tools that I have from 10 to 1 year old. Profactor tools also work with non profactor batteries. At least in europe all of this stuff is interchangeable.

[@Shorty_Lickens]

@@saiiiiiii1 no its not profactor, its something else. a newer style. and the new batteries wont go in my old tools, like there little plastic tabs blocking it.

[@saiiiiiii1]

@@Shorty_Lickens yeah but profactor is called procore in Germany. Same batteries, other name. I saw a review of the VAC and someone couldn't use a 12ah on it. Works perfectly fine for my VAC.

[@matthewvolmerding8460]

I really like the channel and content. I have a couple test recommendations. 12V drill/impact kit comparison Bosch vs. Milwaukee with bushed vs. brushless and any other brands. I would also like to see the new Ryobi One+ HP ratchets run the gauntlet & test vs. the std Ryobi you have already tested.

[@TorqueTestChannel]

Deal

[@ToolDeals]

Yaayyyy! I have another one for you, the new BOSCH impact driver!

[@chrisschott6455]

Can you shed some light on this? What's the model #?

[@felixdaniel6388]

Love your you tube channel haven't you seen the new hyper tough 20v cordless 1/2 impact part number 5774 it would be nice if you could try it has not yet arrived in Puerto Rico tank you for the video

[@RANDOMNATION907]

I would like to see a comparison of the 110v, corded impacts that are out there. No compressor, no battery (or _surprise surprise_ half dead battery) needed, just an extension cord. Seems like something an occasional shade tree mechanic could benefit from.

[@unregistereduser1088]

Way worse. Like 250lbs or less

[@RANDOMNATION907]

@@unregistereduser1088 I appreciate the guess but , I'd still like to know what they CAN do.

[@unregistereduser1088]

@RANDOMNATION I own one and used them for years. Whatever you get with that gun, a long handle 1/2 ratchet will get you more. Your best bet is a cordless.

[@RANDOMNATION907]

@@unregistereduser1088 What do they output on the TTC meter? Not a guess , actual test numbers. I think it would be helpful for anyone considering buying one to have the information.

[@ahassen1236]

Reverse is always more important. Because nothing is worse than being stuck with a bolt that won't open

[@geri250]

Can you please test the newer model GDS 18v-400

[@TorqueTestChannel]

This model is newer than the 18v-400. But that is indeed a separate international model we havent seen yet.

[@joeysubda6509]

I wonder if that CP wheel gun is building more torque similar to the torque sticks on the hydraulic rams vs a wheel stud like what was tested later on

[@TheScorogrif]

I bought this at Lowe’s with 2 4 amp hr batts for $212.00 on sale

[@brianashbach4129]

Can pick up this tool at Lowe's right now for $199 and get two free 4Ah batteries, a pretty good deal.

[@MrTooTechnical]

You need to test Canadian gray hand tools please.

[@martinschuessler1936]

It seems really weird that Bosch isn't a big player in the US market. They make good stuff but it seems like a gamble to buy Bosch with a fraction of the availability than from the big players. There also doesn't seem to be much innovation coming out from them either.

[@engineer_alv]

They have been doing a good-ish effort for the last 2 years when they debuted the BiTurbo lineup here as PROFACTOR. This year alone they are releasing over 20 new tools in North America, many of them on par with their European releases. They are available through a few big retailers like Lowe's, ACME, CPO outlets, Menards and Tractor supply. They are notably missing from Home Depot but so are other brands not having presence in one or more of the other chains mentioned above. But people here in North America are very loyal to their brands, just like they are when buying a pickup truck. And the same happens when you travel to Europe and notice how small DeWalt and Milwaukee compared to Bosch over there

[@dominicgrote7270]

Bosch is a big player in the US market. Most of our business is focused on Rotary Hammers and Carbide on the industrial side. Bosch is the only tool company to own the production of the Carbide that is used in accessories. We do very well with our measuring lasers as well. You will also see brands such as Diablo and Dremel that do well in the US market. Bosch innovations are not only successful, but are adopted industry wide such as SDS, Starlock, and X lock. You will see over 30+ new cordless tools within the next couple of years.

[@martinschuessler1936]

I didn't know that you guys owned Diablo; I thought that was a Freud spinoff.

[@macvos]

@@martinschuessler1936 Guess who owns Freud ;)

[@MidwestPauly]

Why isn't the Dewalt shown in this test along with or instead of the Milwaukee?

[@dandyer8351]

No one likes dewalt 😂

[@christianness8983]

I'm wondering if it might be decent as an inpact driver if you put an adapter on. It's fairly light and it's not nose heavy, so maybe it could work well, especially if you're driving larger fasteners.

[@dandyer8351]

Yes of course u can thats why there are 2 settings. One for woodscrews and one for machine screws.

[@aishainman]

Great impact wrench!

[@willc5979]

Would you be interested in testing a 3/4 snap on electric impact (ct9100) and 3/4 snap on air impact(mg1250)? It's my personal impact guns I use at work. I'm about to buy the ct9100 so it would be brand new

[@crandonborth]

Would be interesting to see… I’m not much for “Snap-On” as they are quite expensive but they sure do make good power.

[@toolsdealsautomobiles6980]

The EU tools are usually more focused on ear eye and fatigue protection

[@christopherhowlett1096]

I understand you're comparing the fact this is very underrated for its torque rating but it's kind of impressive that $159 Ryobi beat it because that same impact can be found on sale all the time at home Depot for like $100 or for $150 as a kit with a a decent battery and charger. Pretty good performance for the price. I bought mine for $99 on a sale and it does everything my friends Milwaukee does as far as practically being used for the everyday persons needs. Will it lasts as long probably not but I literally paid less than half the price for it and since I'm mostly a DIY and not doing everyday heavy construction I've never had a problem with any of my Ryobi tools breaking down I have some that are 10 years old. Had a battery that got left out in the rain once which was my fault but when I called Ryobi and told them it wasn't charging they sent me a new one no questions asked since it was under warranty. Didn't have to send in the old battery and the new one came in 5 days. Just told me I couldn't report that serial number in for a warranty again. I was even able to harvest the 18650s out of it for my rechargeable flashlights.

[@TorqueTestChannel]

Agreed

[@christopherhowlett1096]

@@TorqueTestChannel Love your test man!

[@ilovejazz3s]

If you made a google sheets database of all your spreadsheets, that would be a tremendous resource. It'd take a lot of effort and deincentivise KZbin views though.

[@bobster812]

special thanks for "big boy", I have long wanted to understand what it is capable of

[@AZbone]

Has there been a test on battery impacts coupled with other brand batteries? Ie: dewalt impact using Milwaukee. I’ve scrolled through older videos but nothing jumped out at me…

[@brandonhackley7067]

Hello, i have used alot of bosch tool and the number one thing i have ran i to is they over heat really fast and the tool shuts down. Have you guys experience this as well

[@donalexey]

Not at all. I have SDS Max rotary hammer working 3 hours straight at 40C demolishing concrete without overheating. No issues with other tools from Bosch.

[@engineer_alv]

My 1st brushless hammerdrill did that but I was really taxing it with a dozen 1/2" holes on cinder block to add some rebar in it. I had my SDS stolen so that's the tool I had at the moment. It overheated and protected itself but I kept using it for 6 months after that w/o issues

[@enragedplantera5585]

Are update on being able to test 3/4 impacts or just a recommendation on what one to buy

[@Cjarka_]

Could a stack of bellevile washers replace the spring in an impact? Stacked in a way to get more travel they would have plenty of travel for the hammer but would provide much more force than a spring. Idk exactly how it could be used but maybe someone need a stronger spring but can't find an exact mach, the washers would give more options as they come in a lot of sizes too.

[@jeff95ta83]

You'd have to see what kind of fatigue life they have due to the number of cycles they would undergo. A different material than what's used for a standard off-the-shelf washer may be needed.

[@satria4195]

Try Mollar Impact Wrenches CIW lineup!

[@zacharyrice7334]

When you do another flashlight video please review the Energizer tac r 700 it's a great light and it's supposed to have 700 lumens

[@mak4374]

I think Bosch has a new Freak driver...? If so, can't wait for your test.

[@TorqueTestChannel]

They have a 5th one?

[@mak4374]

@@TorqueTestChannel, I thought I saw it on another channel just today...?

[@exitar1]

Someone at bosch must have had a talk with the engineering dept and said I'm tired of seeing our tools test like crap....

[@matthewwiddows6319]

need some sort of torque per tool kg of tool weight. We know the brands that put in the r&d to set a new standard, then 2 years later another brand comes along and beats it. dewalt have shown how to up the torque by just increasing the hammer weight. first to market should be rewarded and efficiency of the tool. as mentioned, opening up someone else's tool, then a few years later bring out a heavier more powerful tool isn't something to be boasting about.

[@craiglamb9029]

I want a 3/8 version of this. Same size, similar torque. Or Give me 220-250ftlb compact 3/8 thats 18v but the similar size of the 12v impact.

[@engineer_alv]

It's been here for a couple months, look out for the GDS18V-230C. 3/8" impact wrench with 230 ft-lbs tightening and 400 ft/lbs of breakaway torque

[@evictioncarpentry2628]

I had to use Bosch warranty for my 3plane laser level and it was the worst experience I've ever had. I would never buy another Bosch tool based on that. I've warrantied 4 milwaukee tools and everytime within 10 days I had a brand new tool back. Zero questions asked. One makita drill and they had it back to me the next day. Bosch was a 3 month wait and they sent back a used tool in the wrong laser color. Then said they'd ship out another one. Then they lost the order for it. Another month and a half later I had a replacement. 4.5 months total

[@evictioncarpentry2628]

@@1pcfred OK sure. I'll just stop using tools all together. I'll do everything by hand now. Thanks for the advice.

[@james10739]

Do you think you could shim a spring

[@darvis975]

Imagine one of his friends, "hey you got an impact I can borrow?"

[@MrZimmaframe]

Hey Torque any chance you could do anything worklight test that includes BRAUN 750 Lumen Rechargeable Magnetic LED Floodlight ? As it's currently on clearance.

[@TorqueTestChannel]

It's good. Makes like 710lm, durable.

[@tobylou8]

I bought a Freak 1.5....., such a disappointment. It's okay as drill driver, but sucks as an "impact". Now that I see your tests and clearly see I was lied to on numbers, I will come here for honest info on specs. Thanks!

[@jonathanrose456]

Bi turbo doesn’t kick in properly unless using 5.5ah+ pro ore batteries

[@TorqueTestChannel]

Those are 18650s tho?

[@engineer_alv]

@@TorqueTestChannel it's a battery size not available in North America but they are 21700 cells for sure. Battery is the same size as the 8Ah PROFACTOR. Regardless this is not a BiTurbo/PROFACTOR tool, so it may benefit from it but not as dramatically.

[@saiiiiiii1]

@@engineer_alv 21700 3Ah cells with the whole battery packs Watt hours internally reduced to 99Wh due to shipping restrictions with batteries over 100Wh. It's basically like a Milwaukee 6Ah HO and has even less internal resistance than an 8Ah pack.

[@BenFenner]

Over-rating is awful, and tools should be penalized for that, which they are in these rankings. But under-rating isn't super-awesome either. There are times when low torque output is desired, and a consumer should be able to trust specs as accurate, and that includes penalizing for under-rating IMO. I'd like to see penalties (maybe half as harsh) for under-rating. Bosch scoring 100 in this situation should not have been the outcome. There should be a buffer zone below and above where 100 could be scored, but above some amount tools should really be losing points for being much stronger than advertised.

[@ricogroot7028]

What ist stronger , Makita DTZ300z or bosch GDS 330?

[@mattmanyam]

What is the most common/general method of biasing the tool for one direction over the other? My guesses are either hammer and anvil geometry, or which way the spring is wound (cw vc ccw), but I'm just armchair speculating.

[@Fasteddiesinhomerepair]

Hay what is up with the hercules mid torque

[@johnpittman7928]

Ah yes, more delectable Easter content

[@TheMaroney]

MORE EDC GEAR TESTS AND REVIEWS. I also really love these videos too. Like the Amazon impacts

[@thevillain8151]

you guys should get a torque drill

[@turbo2ltr]

Are these compatible with the older Bosch 18V non "core" batteries?

[@ContraVsGigi]

I saw them working on this channel just fine. Not sure if all, but they seem to be compatible.

[@greentjmtl]

All Bosch lithium ion batteries are compatible with all their tools (except the 12AH, which is artificially blocked with a tab), you might get reduced performance if you click a 1.3AH battery onto the high torque though.

[@engineer_alv]

@@greentjmtl that's true. High consumption tools like high torque impact wrenches, rotary hammers and circ saws just need too much power and a small battery doesn't have enough to take from.

[@tomaszkus3652]

Had older version of that bosch.....stand no chance to milwaukee 😅