Boss DD200 VS RE20 - which one does a better Space Echo??

[@Topsy_Krett]

~UPDATE~ I have never owned or even tried a real Space Echo unit, but I love what they do and I've listened (carefully) to many of the YT demos of them. I do own a BOSS DD-200. I also recently tried an RE-20 for a few days. The RE-20 looks retro-cool, the feature set is complete, and I will agree that there is a mojo to the sound... very realistic. However, the RE-20 is a rather large pedal plus it converts the entire guitar signal to digital. Also, there is a slight loss of dynamics and clarity in the guitar signal, even when dry. And, oddly, the Volume control affects the overall level whether the echo is on or off, with no detent to indicate unity gain. The DD-200 is my choice because it is analog-dry-through, uses audiophile-quality processing, has all the Space Echo head combos, has realistic tape flutter via the mod control, can store presets, has a bunch of other great delays included and does it all in a small form factor. Of course, the RE-20 is a fab pedal in its own right; the echoes sound very convincing and may be fine for many players who are into that specific effect but don't mind the 20's shortcomings.

[@levijessegonzalez3629]

Which do ypu prefer the spund of strictly speaking of the delay tones

[@javiceres]

Does the DD200 do the the tape saturation/break up with high feedback settings?

[@zaffrolumpkins]

I used to own an re-20 and placed it in my mixer fx loop for my keyboard rig. I had too many issues with noise and overloading that I’ve went through a bunch of delays since landing on the volante. But really, I just want the volante to sound like the re-20 with its feature set. Can’t believe how many echorec and echoplex style pedals there are and almost no space echo style pedals. Something about the way the it blooms and the way the feedback and speed interact is so musical to me that nothing quite touches it. I do love the volante but I just wish it was a little closer in those ways. Really appreciate you doing this video. The dd-200 doesn’t seem to quite get the features I love of the re-20 just right so I’ll stick with my volante. That said, I agree 100% on a RE-200. If they just updated the body, sound quality, tone sucking issues, input issues and added midi features, I’d buy one in a second. The one other thing is that the warp on the re-20 would get insanely loud so maybe a little compression kicking in towards the peaks of it.

[@mikedr1549]

RIP RE-20. Not sure if I want to scoop one up from MF while they still have them or just learn to use my DD200 more. Maybe Boss is coming out with an updated model??

[@charbaker]

Love the sound and vibe of the RE-20. I guess just need to spend more time with my DD-200.

[@Jaysteenn]

This is a great idea! Im sure lots of people are curious about this shootout. I love this kind of info and I love seeing the evolution of the space echo. I love the space echo but the DD-200 does just fine for me

[@randysutton2120]

Yep. I'm also a big fan of shootouts. Not to say that one is good, and one is bad, but to contrast the cool differences.

[@TSFAHTPS]

Glad you like the video J...I'm always curious about this stuff...and like you said how things evolve!!

[@MrStraty13]

The DD 200 would be perfect if it had a reverb. I don’t understand why they didn’t put a rvb-delay preset…

[@JoelCaseyJonesMusic]

There isn’t one strictly in that sense, but the terra echo has reverb in the algorithm and if you turn the parameter knob all the way down it is mostly just the delays and reverbs without all the fluttery stuff. Works great for me.

[@LeviBulger]

Yeah Joel that's the best compromise and it really does sound amazing like that.

[@saltspringdesign]

I used to have a similar Eastwood, a Dual Tone. Black with white pick guard. Nice guitar but far more of a rythym guitar than a lead guitar like a strat or a PRS. Must have been the neck radius. I sold it while on a road trip to raise gas money to get to the grand canyon. It fetched 800 on amazon in 2012. I had forgotten i had even listed it. It was just up there as a test of the amazon buy and sell system for a web client. There i was sitting in my van, running out of $ as i had been on the road for almost 8 months and i get a notification that this guitar had just sold on amazon to a kid who was only about 30 miles up the coast. I went and met him at a cafe and his dad bought it for him. I was gifted it in exchange for photography for a recording studio in Canada. Nice sounding instrument, well made, just not right for me at that time and i was travelling with a few of my favourite guitars at that time. I love space echo and all of the boss pedals i've had over the years have been rugged construction and great sound quality. I'm sure the DD200 is stellar also, lots of fun for the whole family :) thx for posting this demo :)

[@mikehydropneumatic2583]

Got both and use them on my Moog Subsequent (not a geetar!). The RE-20 does the better space echo but the DD-200 has more tricks up its sleeve. My fav pedals for soundscaping together with a Strymon BlueSky. On my Korg ARP Odyssey I use a Boss CH1 and that is it folks. On the Arturia DB Impact a DS1.

[@javiceres]

Does the DD200 do the the tape saturation/break up with high feedback settings?

[@jasonbarton9352]

at 2:20 - I agree 100%. I too think the RE-20 is one of the greatest most underrated delay pedals out there ....period.

[@JustenStoodley]

Thanks guys. Great vid. 👍

[@TSFAHTPS]

Thanks Justen!

[@dhchoi]

IMO This channel deserves much more than 100,000 subscribers. if you want less than 10min demo , Probably Brett kingman (great channel too.) is the one for you. but if you want deeper and up close one than this channel is for you for sure. Thanks guys. another great video!

[@TSFAHTPS]

Thank you very much choi dh!!!

[@Zwidawurzn]

Thanks for doing this! I want a multifunctional delay with a good tape delay mode and i think the DD-200 will be good enough.

[@erniesfo]

RE-20, RE-201. That was easy...

[@biffstronghold3926]

This is an awesome video. Awhile back I bought a DD200, and I own a carbon copy. I've always wondered what the RE20 had to offer. This really draws a great comparison.

[@TSFAHTPS]

Thanks Biff...I LOVE the RE20...very underrated Reverb/Delay pedal!

[@JoelCaseyJonesMusic]

Carbon copy deluxe into a DD200 both slaved to a single tap is KILLLLLLLLLLLLLER.

[@evankolpack]

The RE20 sounds considerably better (ie more real tape vibe) than the DD20 which sounds pretty digital/fake in comparison. RE20 definitely has a vibe that the DD200 doesn't. I'm bummed, I was hoping to save some space on my board and get way more delay options but still retain a believable Space Echo.

[@mattgilbert7347]

Hard to pick out any major differences. If I just wanted *that* sound, I'd grab the OG. If I wanted a bunch of delays in one pedal, I'd go the DD20, as the man said. The OG also looks cooler. It definitely has a "vibe". I'm still rockin' a DD-5 and a Maxon AD-9 Pro on the board for digital and analog, respectively. The Maxon has a "faux-multi-head" setting that is kinda similar to what you get with the RE-20. If I wanted dark delay+reverb? Vfe Yodeler. Been sitting in my pedal drawer for ages coz it's too precious to put on a board...

[@xx_PCCR_xx]

That jam on the baritone guitar was amazing!!!

[@TSFAHTPS]

Thank you very much!!

[@crayjackson757]

to any newbs, ‘that’ chord he’s playing is -x- -12- -14- -12- -13- -15-

[@unmondelibre]

Very nice video, thanks. I find my DD 200 needs to have the tone turned down to the left to be more musical (both tape and drum).

[@TSFAHTPS]

Thank Emmanuel

[@randysutton2120]

I've been waiting for this. I absolutely love the RE-20. The DD-200 is great, but the RE-20 might be my all-time favorite delay pedal. I would also love to see an RE-200, but maybe with a similar aesthetic to the 20, instead of the 200 series. I really like the look of that pedal.

[@TSFAHTPS]

Yeah...I'm the same...the RE-20 is definitely a bit of a hidden gem! RE-200 with the Space Echo looks and all the presets would be awesome

[@lamosapolar]

Thank you!

[@TSFAHTPS]

Thanks Daniel!!

[@-davidolivares]

You’ve fried my brain, or what the 70’s left of it , it , it, ittttttttttttt. Green is mellow cooler, White is sterile scientific. A Re200 sounds like a future winner or a DD-201, ahhhhg. Had a Re-201 awhile back, very cool, wish I had bought the Re-501 I saw once. Hmm... Re-50, Help me. Enjoyed the video, rocked it out boys!

[@TSFAHTPS]

Thanks David...sorry for frying your brain !!

[@jamesnichols5998]

Honestly the amount of sounds the worked into the 200 is astounding

[@TSFAHTPS]

Absolutely

[@rareform6747]

Great laid back sounds..... . . . . . . . RE20

[@PooNinja]

I enjoy any space but just an FYI no air or other medium to vibrate for echo in the vacuum of space. I prefer the original 👍🏽

[@PooNinja]

I think it’s the blinky rate lights IDK I like blinky lights so I also love spectrum analyzers 🤣

[@TSFAHTPS]

I'm all about blinky lights...and logos that light up

[@MYGAS21]

Time to address the elephant in the room: that wonderfuly somber solo in the end. Loved it and I'm suprized no one commented on it.

[@TSFAHTPS]

On the Baritone?? Thank you very much!!!

[@MYGAS21]

@@TSFAHTPS What inspired you more....the pedals or the baritone?

[@TSFAHTPS]

Both...I think getting a baritone has been very inspiring...this is my first baritone and it has become one of the first guitars I reach for in the studio! The RE20 is a delay I’ve been using for a long time and it’s a delay I really feel comfortable using...I don’t know if it’s just me but there are some delays that I just don’t get along with...I just can’t seem to find a sweet spot I like, or the right volume for the repeats, they are either too loud or too quiet...but I never seem to have those problems with the RE20 (and lately also the DD8)...it just seems to always seems to sit really well in the mix...and it just sounds great

[@MYGAS21]

@@TSFAHTPS It's not because I'm Greek, but I think your style of playing, using a drone with melody would -how should I say this- feel at home (?) lets say with some traditional Greek scales, like a Sabah, Ousak, Hitzaz, Niavent etc....these are westernised oriental scales adjusted to minor magor chord harmony. From what you played I have a hunch you might like them....

[@ChrisFGuitarStuff]

Any idea how many loops you can lay down and play back at the same time? Can you have 5 or 6 loops playing back at the same time?

[@Grungebob_Squaredance]

Dd200 all day.

[@KoiKoy109]

How did you setup the right footswitch of the DD200 to be an expression feature?!??

[@RiotBike]

Would like to see a shootout between the RE-20 and the Nux Tape Core

[@TSFAHTPS]

I’ll see if I can make that happen

[@quotidianabstraction]

Simon, check out this comparison: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6rKdXukjJmMiZY

[@markorfila3832]

the problem with all these is they are thin modern digital... the guitar quite frankly sounds thin and plastic... string attack doesn't sound natural. Sold my DD200 as it was just a massive tone sucker ! The DD2 is easily the best digital delay... sounds analog...nice fat guitar tone !

[@jambajoby32]

FOMO on these with the simple memory boy over here lol

[@robertspore3248]

Can you use a brick power supply instead of the psa adapter power?

[@TSFAHTPS]

You can use any centre negative 9V DC adapter that fits

[@zenriot9982]

Does the Space echo also work as a distortion? I’m trying to figure out how Ash Grunwald gets that gritty OD vocal sound live & read he used one these.

[@TSFAHTPS]

Not sure about on his vocals but he uses a copperphone mic through an overdrive pedal. The mic will give that lofi tone adn then crunched up with a pedal

[@bendanielsmusicnow4533]

TOO MUCH TALKING