Boss Wagon VI: 2008 Mazdaspeed 5 - CAR and DRIVER

[@dallasbryant6740]

For the love of Jeebus, whatever happened to this Boss Wagon?!

[@crash953]

mazda shoud've sold these. I would totally buy one

[@espadasmoran]

Wonder what happened to this van... I want to swap a cx7 engine to the mazda 5

[@CorbinGoodwin]

What a pimpin wagon! I love sleeper cars, and that is one heck of a sleeper.

[@JDub07]

I own a Mazda 5 and love it, but it could use more power. An aftermarket turbo would have been way easier.

[@kenhasi3998]

Mr. Cornbrea

[@EthantheKnight]

Same! I love my mazda5. But id love it to have a bit more kick. So we are thinkin about a new preformance exhaust.

[@tyomikshkolnik7988]

Absolutely agree, it's a shame, ours even has a manual. Still, no aftermarket support though.

[@porterknutson1733]

​@@tyomikshkolnik7988 Don't Mazdaspeed 3 parts bolt right up?

[@rockcityfilms]

Good demonstration of how difficult things get when you try to modify a modern vehicle. The engine was a perfect fit, but the computer and harness made the job a nightmare. If Car and Driver had this much trouble with a fairly "simple" swap, what chance is there for the rest of us?

[@nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489]

very good. they're a news publication. lol.

[@PedroGarcia-bu3vb]

Love this build!!! I have now a used Mazda 5 2015 and really wants to do this, my neighbor has one Mazda speed3 2 generation and someone truck crash and it’s totaled I would try to buy and do this swap

[@tonydano]

the problem with these cars is that you also have to change the key. You have to use the key from the 3. That key "talks" to the BCM under the dash which in turn "talks" to the ECM. Obviously the harness have to swapped as well. without doing this, the engine will never run right. It might even loose oil pressure and go into limp mode every 10 minutes. Then you'll have to modify every fusible link connection to the BCM (power windows, locks etc.) very interesting project guys!

[@ChristopherValitzski]

Mazda needs to put this into production.

[@fredzeppelin3969]

C/D promised a follow-up article to this, and it never happened

[@dilawer321]

@awol09 the same reason why people put a k20 engine in a honda fit/jazz, or the same reason people put a skyline rb26 engine in a 200sx, simply beacause no one else has aone and you will have the fastest one out there.

[@1g2002541]

wonder if u put in a LSD, otherwise it how u solvo the torque steering

[@anthonylee1367]

This is more possible to do now since you can get these for a decent price now. I think cx7’s have the same motor. Just not sure where to get the transmission

[@feedthecatagain]

so what happened to this thing? is it worth it?

[@whatitdodew]

I remember reading this in some car magazine! if you ask me I like what they did!

[@zhonghuizhao1193]

what about specification of the wheel and tire? ET？

[@themadminuteman]

@StarclassicD I know what you mean. He says they took the engine AND a bunch of other parts so they prob substituted the wheels and other crap from another car just to keep it off the ground. Not much difference in the body of the 3 and MS3, it is really in the spoiler, wider and lower body, bigger hood and the bigger wheels... all of which are gone except for the spoiler and the angles don't show the proportions.

[@swingonthespiral]

I have a mazda 3 with a mazda 5 engine. Really want to build it

[@cjhenks]

I wonder how many hours went into the conversion. Do they sell the speed 3 engine alone? Would I be able to swap it into my 2000 626?

[@solid_spec]

probably would have been easier to drop an aftermarket turbo into the 5... using the turbo mani from the S3

[@bbehzadi413]

Let’s see this again!!!

[@mazdaspeedcj]

They can probably get away with just buying an Accessport and using that to tune the engine. The FMIC is probably throwing off the stock ECU.

[@EA11RDrift]

Mazda need to produce this. I'd totally buy an MS5. Those kids would never, ever make it to soccer practice in one piece, though.

[@thielepr]

Where is that MS5 now?

[@jipandesal]

at 0:51 that is actually a ms3 but they swapped all of the things out to make the m5 a mazdaspeed5

[@ethadon1]

What engine did you put in definitely sounds good I own a 06 emerald. I'm looking into to putting some cx-9 rims on it.

[@JohnFHendry]

So what was it like finished? There should be a turbo 2.5 option for the Mazda5 that is better tuned for normal deriving that gets better millage while still out performing a Honda Odyssey. That should be the goal. But with today's tech a variable mileage/performance system should be in place controlling our mileage not production design politics connected to oil production. Less that 30 mpg for a Mazda 3 or 5 (136 pound difference, that's all) with a 3.2 Co/drag is a joke in 2012. Finish MS 5!

[@JWROWE3]

The 5 is a great vehicle Mazda seems to just forget they even offer.

[@luanaaraujo2159]

where's the boss wagon now? @onesick_95gts - Instagram

[@tonykarata9398]

Theor one swapped in mazda of orland park seen

[@OmerTheGreatOne]

should have just put a custom turbo intercooler on mazda 5 . saved a lot of money and saved a mazdaspeed3 as well.

[@christopherhiatt9236]

It is. And works pretty well also.

[@wb6vpm]

Whatever happened with this?

[@mtxandy]

They just swapped the wheels with the Mazda 5. You can tell its a MS3 by the spoiler and its obviously a turbo because of the intercooler. I cant believe you owned one and cant tell the diff. I have an 09 MS3 btw

[@okbuddyjarvis]

they could have saved a totalled MS3? excerpt from the C&D article: "When it appeared in Ann Arbor, the crumpled and totaled hatchback looked sadder than leftover ham, but the engine ran fine. "

[@nicholaslandolina]

This is so cool!

[@anaestereo810]

2024 and i am still dreaming about my 2010 mazda 5 getting this treatment..saving grace; is a manual transmission

[@VRjaygt]

I want to buy this!!

[@georgelovecar]

why not just add a turbo into the 5'sstock engine but no need to cut a new engine from another car wouidn't it be smmmmmoother

[@VeraTheTabbynx]

I know this post is 10 years old now, but here's an answer if by some miracle you see it! This Mazda 5 blew up. The engine was toasted by a bad set of valves, and someone suggested a Speed 3 swap as an offhand comment, since the 3 and 5 share a platform.

[@FuriousPumpkin]

if they had an unlimited budget they could put the Mercedes 6.5 liter twin turbo V-12 into an E-class.

[@OmerTheGreatOne]

what, never heard of rebuilt cars?? and u cant argue around the fact that a simple turbo intercooler would have been better for mazda5.

[@StarclassicD]

That hatchback is NOT a mazdaspeed 3...its a regular hatchback ...

[@allteeth]

Nope, thought I would be... but, nope. Not interested. I would have just rocked the MS3. Good work, none the less. Looks like alot of time and headaches.

[@horvathandras156]

i can't think of an hybrid under 50 grand that's as quick as that....

[@turbo311]

I remember reading what a pain in the ass this thing was

[@randomly1981]

That is a MS3 they just swap the wheels from the Mazda 5

[@its2realj]

you should have stuck this engine in the miata! that would be sick!

[@4stringshayden]

It's top mount...

[@lilunits]

epic

[@awol09]

the real question is why you would want to make a mazda 5 into a "mazdaspeed" 5.......... i can think of much better hybrid cars than that haha

[@firesquare16]

make a few more and i think it will sell.

[@mrZdude]

@ItalianSA this thing is more badass than you.

[@Yoda8232]

This is no wagon, it's a minivan. Take away the stupid sliding doors first step.

[@johnnyr25]

Mazda? You listening?

[@Xyrophobia]

...What in the hell??

[@JeffJasonII]

a mazdespeed3 is governed at 250 kph

[@SpartanGuy]

What the crap? Its a Frankenstein.

[@carrionpvp]

im guessing this was for some serious lulz?

[@SpartanGuy]

What the crap?

[@Robert-ky4ro]

Video sucked but cool build

[@ItalianSA]

pleeaassseeeee don't ruin the MAZDASPEED name... Mazda didn't create a Mazdaspeed van, so why did you? Mazdaspeed and "5" should never go together..

[@mazdamatt7703]

Disagree entirely.