What’s unique about the silver line is while it’s underground, it’s powered off of overhead catenary at 480v. Once it hits the surface, it switches to diesel. Essentially making it a hybrid form of transportation.
@padellina95963 жыл бұрын
That’s what I remember from my ride on this bus, few years back. What was even more bizarre, the driver didn’t even get out when he was switching to and from the trolley. Just pressed the button and voilà - you are entering the tunnel as a trolley bus!
@lovedfriend20203 жыл бұрын
I was just gonna ask that.
@trentr97623 жыл бұрын
Not unique. Europe has trains that turn to trams and then busses
@jamesnotfound3 жыл бұрын
@@trentr9762 no one said it was unique. Try reading next time before try to act rude.
@tgm99913 жыл бұрын
@@jamesnotfound The op did say it was unique it is you that needs to learn to read.
@WalkRideFly3 жыл бұрын
I never knew such a system existed. This is cool!
@joshturner83223 жыл бұрын
Brisbane in Australia also has a sizeable BRT system with underground stations and tunnels
@LaKellita3 жыл бұрын
Try riding it before declaring it cool.
@sostdm6173 жыл бұрын
Yes you have to check out the silver line from south station when you come here welcome to Boston
@gossettcd3 жыл бұрын
@@LaKellita I stayed at the Airport Hilton, for a work conference, a few years ago and took the Silver 1 everyday. It was cool.
@xtroid2k3 жыл бұрын
I take this bus daily! I love the trip
@andrecito04103 жыл бұрын
Everyone: omg this is so weird Us from Mass.: Hey, that's the Airport Train!
@christian70963 жыл бұрын
For me , this is the bus I rather take to Boston instead of the 111 :)
@genderfluidsneutral45913 жыл бұрын
you call a bus a train? I call it the land boat
@uFreakMeowt3 жыл бұрын
Yeah!
@2023-Sucked3 жыл бұрын
Yep, pretty normal
@kishascape3 жыл бұрын
You should see the rail-like busses in Europe. They drive over 2 narrow strips of concrete laid out similar to railroads with guide wheels in the front edges to keep the bus centered so you don’t have to steer. It’s pretty cool.
@jmalerbaboss3 жыл бұрын
who realized he got on an sl2 bus instead of sl3 😂
@JSGRanks3 жыл бұрын
ikr!
@c182SkylaneRG3 жыл бұрын
I saw that! And then read the 6 mph speed limit sign as 60 mph. :D
@mrjarichard3 жыл бұрын
He also said SL3 to Design Center... SL3 goes to Chelsea, SL2 to Design Center, so he was on the right bus, just said the number wrong.
@Northeast_trains2 жыл бұрын
I noticed that
@kei21423 жыл бұрын
It's like they run out of money for the tracks
@TonyW79SFV3 жыл бұрын
That's pretty much the story with transit construction in the U.S. MBTA's Silver Line BRT was conceived as a cheaper replacement for the old MBTA Orange Line elevated (I forget which section). The Silver Line, due to being a bus, is Boston's only direct rapid transit Line between downtown & Logan Airport. As for BRT in other U.S. cities, Houston recently opened a line on Westheimer which originally was to be light rail until funding got cut. In NYC, the SelectBusService is one form of BRT put together to provide near-term solutions when long-term solutions, like the 2 Avenue Subway takes forever to build.
@tipsythefedora3 жыл бұрын
@@TonyW79SFV It was making up for the fact that when The Orange Line el was eliminated it took away basically all the stops in Roxbury. Specifically what was Dudley Square(now Nubian Square).(also you can get the blue line downtown at State St. to get to the airport but maybe you mean right to the terminals...)
@TonyW79SFV3 жыл бұрын
@@tipsythefedora the Blue Line requires a connection to a shuttle bus to Logan.
@tipsythefedora3 жыл бұрын
@@TonyW79SFV I’m probably just misunderstanding you..Are you saying there is a connection between the subway and the bus to the airport? Because that’s not the case. As you exit Airport Station on the Blue Line you board a bus that takes you directly to the airport terminals and car rental center. Apologies if I’m just repeating you but saying it different.
@keithdennis96003 жыл бұрын
basically! if memory serves the silver line was initially supposed to be an extension of the green line (light rail trolley system) in lieu of the lack of service to Roxbury (previously mentioned axing of the old Orange Line El) , but due to budget (STILL being in debt from The Big Dig) it became a bus rather than rail
@Jeff-lj6xx3 жыл бұрын
You actually happened to board one of the few battery buses in the silver line fleet. Usually they need to stop at Silver Line way and change power sources from electric overhead wires (like they use in Harvard Square) to diesel mode.
@shawnwatson2shawnwat3 жыл бұрын
The Silver Line and the trackless trolleys of Cambridge are two totally different and distinct lines.
@Jeff-lj6xx3 жыл бұрын
@@shawnwatson2shawnwat Correct. When I mentioned “like they use in Harvard” I was referring to the vehicle’s source of of power being conducted from electricity via the overhead wires, not the vehicles or routes themselves.
@DDELE73 жыл бұрын
The Dual Mode diesel/electric Silver Line fleet is showing its age. I personally think the T should invest in battery powered buses that could simply recharge from the existing overhead wires in the busway tunnel. Then you wouldn’t need to build off-site recharging stations for future electric buses.
@coyotelong43493 жыл бұрын
I was gonna say, these HAVE to be electric buses to be running underground like this
@imanchantel2263 жыл бұрын
Yes, the silver line does this in seaport center before going to the airport for example.
@jlei92843 жыл бұрын
The silver line bus goes rattle, rattle, rattle, all through the town!😆
@6or13 жыл бұрын
This thing have square wheels, or what?
@PaulFisher3 жыл бұрын
@@6or1 if it has square wheels they would probably line up better with the degraded concrete!
@TheCriminalViolin3 жыл бұрын
Not remotely as rough or loud as TriMet's old Flxible Metros (Grumman 850s) I miss those damn buses so much! haha. So incredibly rough and rowdy, louder than a concert front row sometimes, but damn did I love those suckers! This bus and route is akin to the levels of roughness & loudness of TriMet's 2500-2800 New Flyer D40LF buses that are between 21 & 16 years old.
@TheCriminalViolin3 жыл бұрын
@harry # Like every major transit agency in this country, they go with the cheapest options and materials possible to cost-cut. It's terrible and sad as hell as a transit nut myself, but it's just our reality we're forced to live with.
@alexanderip10033 жыл бұрын
Ugggghhhhhhhh!!! I Hated this song
@guardian8603 жыл бұрын
they should add this to "Mass Transit" DLC.
@ITechnologyman3 жыл бұрын
It’s doable
@jacobg4923 жыл бұрын
You can... just have the busses drive on bus roads underground. But the stations would have to be above ground of course.
@punishedpinecone47723 жыл бұрын
You can already do this, just get Move It and lower the nodes then plop down some walls and stuff
@Octopaeus3 жыл бұрын
You can use sunken road to build this too.
@punishedpinecone47723 жыл бұрын
You wouldn't even have to make the stations above ground, just technically above the ground level
@BrianWebb02223 жыл бұрын
Seattle had a system similar to this - where the busses ran through downtown in the "bus tunnel." But the tunnel belonged to the agency that was building out the light rail for the Seattle area. After light rail service began, trains and busses both shared the tunnel until just a few years ago, when the busses were shifted back to the streets above on dedicated transit only lanes.
@dangelohartley59773 жыл бұрын
Does King County Metro and Sound Transit buses still uses the tunnel?
@willy.william45823 жыл бұрын
@@dangelohartley5977 No, light rail only. Seattle Transit Tunnel is officaly what it is called.
@dangelohartley59773 жыл бұрын
@@willy.william4582 When did buses no longer uses the tunnel?
@anthonybanchero30723 жыл бұрын
@@dangelohartley5977 I think 2019.
@willy.william45823 жыл бұрын
@@dangelohartley5977 March 23rd, 2019
@javianjohnson87463 жыл бұрын
Wow, I've NEVER, EVER heard of an underground bus that acts as a subway. Thank you for making this video and educating the masses on this, its pretty unique
@MTM3583 жыл бұрын
When it was constructed and I lived in Boston still everyone called it the "Silver Lie" because the MBTA put it on the subway map as if it were a new rail line. Oh, and the two branches literally didn't connect yet.
@carlosrubio75893 жыл бұрын
Max T-M ; There are three lines (branches ?) SL1, SL2, SL3. Silver Line #3 goes to Chelsea by tunnel.
@alexdelta573 жыл бұрын
@@carlosrubio7589 5* - The SL4 and SL5, which stay above ground with dedicated lanes but travel down Washington street.
@jezeniawarmsley67093 жыл бұрын
As a person who was born and raised in Boston I love that this surprises people!
@christansnaggy34503 жыл бұрын
I was born and raised in Boston and I never knew Boston would be this high to make that 😂😂like u can just take the blue line
@aodhganmerrimac3 жыл бұрын
The Silver Lie was sold to Bostonians as BRT yet nearly all the line meets none of the major criteria of BRT. "A 2011 study by the Institute for Transportation and Development Policy (ITDP) determined that the Silver Line was best classified as 'Not BRT' because it lacked many of these BRT Standard features." The section you rode on in the South Boston Transitway. That small section of tunnel was the only part of the original line which meets most BRT standards. Had you rode it at afternoon rush hour, pre-pandemic you would have seen serious over crowding. Passengers often have to wait for three to five vehicles before they can board inbound, It's often quicker to walk to the South Station from the South Boston Waterfront. The original fleet on this side of the line is hybrid running off overhead catenary in the SB Transitway. The very overdue new fleet is battery assisted I believe. Yes, the ride compares very poorly with steel wheeled traction. The other side of the line which is not connected, is all street running with no catenary, but dedicated lanes & small kiosk waiting shelters on much of Washington St., that half of the line replaced an elevated RTL line (the original RTL Line of the Boston system). It was billed as a way to connect that neighborhood to the waterfront & the jobs that would be created when that area was built out, but they have never connected the two sections. The South End section drops passengers off on the street level across the street from The South Station. The line should have been a streetcar line integrated with the Green Line via the abandoned trolley tunnel under Boylston St. that would have allowed a single seat ride from Forest Hills to the city Chelsea via the SB Waterfront & Logan airport with cross platform connections to all branches of the Green Line trolley system. When the South Boston Waterfront is finally built out the Silver Lie will be completely overwhelmed. You mentioned the tunnel width, had it been built as a streetcar line the tunnels could have actually been smaller with associated cost saving I'm sure. The company that made the original fleet was actually bankrupted by the order & fixes required IIRC. Also a direct link to the Williams Tunnel doesn't exist which would shorten the trip time to Logan. All in all, it's the worst part of the Greater Boston system in my opinion.
@teeceedeecee3 жыл бұрын
My question is is it worse than a regular bus route, or is it worse than what it should be? In other words, should they have built what they could with what they had or just left it all alone?
@aodhganmerrimac3 жыл бұрын
@@teeceedeecee Comparing it to a regular route is not clear cut. It depends greatly on the streets the route travels on &c. It should have been light rail from day one. The public was essentially told it was comparable to light rail.
@Anon214863 жыл бұрын
As a Chelsea resident, we are lucky to have 3 major bus routes, 2 minor bus route, the Commuter Rail, and the Silver Line. For the purpose of this convo though, my answer is.... it depends.... Here is what I mean. Comparing the MBTA Bus Route 111, 116, and 117 with SL3 is dependent on where the route goes. Pre-covid, the 111 would constantly hit traffic on the Tobin and North Washington Bridge. Not only that but traffic on Chelsea's Broadway would cause busses to back up, sometimes having multiple 111 lined up in a row. For the 116 and 117, they not only had to deal with traffic on Broadway in Revere and Chelsea but also Meridian Street in East Boston as well as Rt 1A/Bell Circle in Revere. The 116 & 117 also have an issue that is out of their control, a drawbridge. Yup, the drawbridge gives right of way for boats so it can be in the middle or rush hour and access across the Chelsea River could be closed for 15+ minutes. You know who also has issues with a drawbridge... the SL3. Yup, the Silver Line is slowed down by the very same thing that slows down the 116/117. So much so that the MBTA themselves stated that the drawbridge is preventing ridership from increasing on the SL3. As for traffic, the only major traffic issue is within the Ted Williams Tunnel. The last issue I can think of is pricing. Although the Silver Line has the same fare as the Subway system and follows the same rules with that pricing, there is no free transfer between the Silver Line and Airport Station. Of course, you may be looking for stats so let me give you some. These are from my personal experience though from my given area. To make things simpler, all of these will be based on Bellingham Square to Boston during pre-covid peak rush hours, with drawbridge open to vehicular traffic. (111 - Haymarket, 116/117 - Maverick, SL3 - South Station) 111 - 35-45 minutes 116/117 - 20-25 minutes SL3 - 40-60 minutes
@patriciastein36273 жыл бұрын
I live in Michigan . We are in the stone age. This is fantastic the different types of transportation. LOOKS clean too. Just cause people live in the MOTOR CITY they think everyone has a car. Michigan has been talking about mass transit since I was a child. I am a baby boomer. We do have bus service but does NOT go everywhere. DIRTY I could say more I will leave that to your imagination.!!!!!
@erik_griswold3 жыл бұрын
You have the PeopleMover!
@BluePhoenix20133 жыл бұрын
Used to live in Detroit, you're right
@BluePhoenix20133 жыл бұрын
@@erik_griswold true but only served downtown
@LadyJay1143 жыл бұрын
I heard about this. One of the reasons for Detroit's abysmal unemployment rate is because the city doesn't have reliable public transit. If you don't have a car you can't get to work.
@zaybx34853 жыл бұрын
They got the Q line light rail
@franciscoapr50073 жыл бұрын
It's a mixture between subway, trolleybus and bus, it's weird but it's very practical. Love it!
@AleksanderJBL3 жыл бұрын
Love the Boston walks. The city's so much different from NY.
@wadebraxton85973 жыл бұрын
It's clean!
@erik_griswold3 жыл бұрын
The Silver Line can access the existing road infrastructure after the “SIlver Line Way” station. For example to the airport via the Interstate 90 tunnel. There was not foresight enough or funding provided to do what should have been a part of the “Big Dig” which was to build an FRA compatible rail line from South Station to the airport.
@queendee86563 жыл бұрын
Very weird to me never knew they existed thank you for this I’m from Rhode Island🏙🌊🙋🏼♀️
@ActionKid3 жыл бұрын
First time I've ever seen this.
@marisolsanchez30883 жыл бұрын
Me too😅 I live in Rhode Island as well
@peskypigeonx3 жыл бұрын
@@marisolsanchez3088 Cool, and I’m a NYC pigeon
@erik_griswold3 жыл бұрын
Providence used to have an Electric Trolley bus system too. It used the tunnel that goes up to Brown University.
@paxhumana20153 жыл бұрын
@@ActionKid , are you from New York City? Which borough do you live in, out of curiosity?
@crazeyjoe3 жыл бұрын
One fun fact about Boston. The "Boston Cream Pie" (technically a cake) was invented at the (Omni) Parker House Hotel Restaurant (located at 60 School St) in 1881!
@ActionKid3 жыл бұрын
Cool fact!
@zacharythomason73593 жыл бұрын
Awesome fact Thanks for that fact. Didn't know that.
@shawnwatson2shawnwat3 жыл бұрын
I'm from Boston. It's a pie.
@crazeyjoe3 жыл бұрын
@@shawnwatson2shawnwat The History of Boston Cream Pie... Why is it called pie when it is a cake? That is the million-dollar question! Apparently, back in the mid-1800s when it was invented, pie plates were the most common cooking vessel. These cakes were originally baked in pie plates, and thus called "pie." So, while it is referred to as a "pie" it is actually a version of a yellow butter cake.
@shawnwatson2shawnwat3 жыл бұрын
@@crazeyjoe I appreciate what you said, however, go in any bakery, supermarket. It's a pie.
@erik_griswold3 жыл бұрын
It’s always fun to watch a New Yorker react to life in the outside world.
@varshneydevansh3 жыл бұрын
This is a good comment
@Laluan3 жыл бұрын
It’s not even outside America lol
@joebruce48263 жыл бұрын
Boston is weird AF
@Topgear20063 жыл бұрын
Yeah this is still inside America buddy.
@erik_griswold3 жыл бұрын
@@Topgear2006 New Yorkers rarely go west of the Hudson.
@AquieoAndreBR3 жыл бұрын
When my brother lived in Boston I used to take this bus to go to the airport, he used to work very near the south station. So many memories.
@mattjohnson17273 жыл бұрын
Brisbane has bus freeways, tunnels, interchanges with rail that extend from the city core like a metro and bus green bridges over the rivers
@carlitoperez5283 жыл бұрын
Boston is another level to be honest
@lchaney3 жыл бұрын
Another level of what?
@MarksCar-rs1nm3 жыл бұрын
I’m not ruining 69 likes
@markocroatia76303 жыл бұрын
@@lchaney Of Public Transport Sevices?
@wuhanclan3 жыл бұрын
No it's not. It's pretty awful.
@wturner7773 жыл бұрын
@@wuhanclan I must say it's better than not having a transit system at all. Other parts of the country don't even have a bus system at all. I'm from a small Florida town in the Panhandle and we're not as developed as the other side of Florida where the biggest cities are. The biggest cities in the Panhandle are Pensacola and Tallahassee, which also have transit systems, but nothing like the big leagues.
@rbdagoat20003 жыл бұрын
I didn’t even know underground buses existed. This was definitely interesting
@lovelyheiferdev3 жыл бұрын
It's run on electricity (catenary wires) underground and diesel when above ground.
@hairyairey3 жыл бұрын
Arguably the paris metro is an underground bus as it has rubber tyres
@claytammaro70603 жыл бұрын
I’m proud to say I worked on the “bus” tunnels when they were being constructed. At the turn around at south station, glad you enjoyed your ride.
@menguardingtheirownwallets67913 жыл бұрын
There are 'road grinders' that are used to flatten out the 'waves' in washboard-like road surfaces, similar to the surface that bus is vibrating over.
@jimaustin79573 жыл бұрын
WOW! I'm totally intrigued with Boston's underground bus system. That's awesome! And I'm used to seeing buses above ground in several big cities, including where I live at.
@yoyobass1003 жыл бұрын
One similar feat of the T that you missed is the Harvard bus tunnel at Harvard station. The only underground bus hub in the city.
@s89hblr3 жыл бұрын
ActionKids, actually subway T stations like South Station has few free transfer between subways and Silver Line. I taken Japanese guest to Boston few years ago.
@derekinhawaii3 жыл бұрын
It's only free when you travel Inbound to Bosotn from Logan Airport and South Station.
@j.c.p.46712 жыл бұрын
The "MBTA" also has boats to Hull, Massachusetts; Cape Cod; the Airport in East Boston; and North Shore of Massachusetts.
@Modeltnick3 жыл бұрын
Love the MBTA. So easy to get around Boston on the T. The Sulverline can run on electric or diesel, depending on where the overhead wires are available. I’ve been on this and you can hear them toggle between the two. My favorite is the Green line C branch.
@NortheastCorridorFilms3 жыл бұрын
Finally somebody that loves MBTA. It is full of pride!
@Modeltnick3 жыл бұрын
@@NortheastCorridorFilms Thanks for your response. First thing I do when I get to Boston is get a “Charlie Card”!
@emiliopacheco80563 жыл бұрын
My city (Guadalajara, Mexico) used to have a similar system back in the 70's and 80's, there was s Trolleybus line that traveled through it's own tunnels and had underground stations, but then in 1989 they substituted the trolleybuses for a Light rail system and that was the end of underground buses on my city. Cool video btw.
@BunnyfriendMX3 жыл бұрын
Guadalajara had a very similar trolleybus system that was partially underground, operating from late seventies to late eighties when it was replaced by light rail trains. It used old Chicago's Marmon-Herrington trolleybuses slightly revamped to make them fit in the somewhat tight tunnel (which actually was intended for a metro system). You can find more info about the system, which was a partial-BRT since it ran from the tunnel into main avenues of Guadalajara, in Tom's North American Trolley Bus Pictures webpage.
@kesschristopher3 жыл бұрын
It sure doesn’t seem to travel far without going back into mixed traffic
@erikaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa3 жыл бұрын
It does, but the parts above ground also have dedicated bus lanes. The part that goes underground lets the bus skip some of the busiest streets in the city, so its worthwhile :)
@jenjonez3 жыл бұрын
I think it was actually made so that once on street level there is a designated lane to move through the city quicker also combined with the bike lane.
@TheMacGuy23 жыл бұрын
Seattle had a trolley/diesel or gas route between its airport and downtown underground similar to this. The electric propulsion worked as the bus got off the interstate and into the underground part. It was electric powered. The Boston system could be upgraded into a rail system, and its a start. Very interesting video! Thanks for producing and narrating it!
@DigitalIslandboy3 жыл бұрын
Because the U.S. federal government already spent a TON of money on building the I-90 Ted William (road) Tunnel along with the rest of the "Big Dig" and didn't want to build a second tunnel under the Boston Harbor tunnel for rail. So the bus switches off the overhead power poles when it gets to street level in order to go into the regular road tunnel that the Feds helped build, circles the airport, and then goes back through the road tunnel and then switches back to overhead power and goes back into the tunnel. If Boston wants to, it can build another subway tunnel and convert it to full subway in the future.
@Adorablenerd2953 жыл бұрын
I love Boston! Welcome to my city
@YungMerkel3 жыл бұрын
A nice city, but look to all european Cities how looks normal transportation.
@graffmixer3 жыл бұрын
WELCOME TO BOSTON....Glad to see you in my home city!!!
@NortheastCorridorFilms3 жыл бұрын
Massachusetts gang Get in the caw!
@cszal3 жыл бұрын
I found this underground bus system very odd! Much love ActionKid from Northeast Philly!
@ActionKid3 жыл бұрын
Very odd indeed!
@cherylpersons32413 жыл бұрын
@actionkid they do that in Seattle Washington too . Boston probably got that from them the bus drives side by side to the trains they go underground too
@user-dp8ep8qf1m3 жыл бұрын
I think they had to do this because when the silver line gets to the airport. It’s stops at every terminal I think there wasn’t enough space to do a whole subway line. Also the point of it being underground is so that people trying to catch flights don’t have to deal with normal traffic.
@aodhganmerrimac3 жыл бұрын
@@user-dp8ep8qf1m It dead ends travelers at South Station, so a single seat ride anywhere is all but impossible. Originally a spur off the red Line was contemplated, but rejected.
@user-dp8ep8qf1m3 жыл бұрын
@@aodhganmerrimac true
@wturner7773 жыл бұрын
The funny thing about transit is the locals say they suck. I must say you guys better be lucky you live in a city where there is an abundance of transportation options. I live in a small town in the Florida Panhandle and your best mode of transportation is having your own car. Otherwise you'd be paying an arm and a leg on taxi cabs and ride-sharing. Bumming other people for rides is another option, but I wouldn't count on it unless you're carpooling together. Having your own car is freedom they say, but the downside is it's more expensive overall than having a monthly bus pass.
@GobreadGilfredBiago6663 жыл бұрын
The silver line was actually intended to be an extension of the light rail system (green line) but the city was in massive debt at the time and was unable to fully complete the build, thus the reason for changing it into an underground bus system, which was much cheaper but still connected Roxbury and Seaport to downtown.
@GobreadGilfredBiago6663 жыл бұрын
But, like everything the MBTA does, they’re starting to realize that their cheap choice resulted in thousands of dollars wasted in upkeep
@mrjarichard3 жыл бұрын
Technically, only a small section, between South Station, Courthouse, and World Trade Center, qualifies as BRT, the majority of all the Silver Line routes, are traditional bus routes, above ground, at-grade, and on streets alongside traffic. Originally the whole system was designed to be BRT (requires dedicated lanes, right-of-way at intersections, fare-controlled stations, et al.), but after multiple budget cuts, they scrapped most of it and this is what we were left with, which unfortunately makes these lines fairly slow and inefficient, though they do serve areas that otherwise have no subway.
@lvdawnll81663 жыл бұрын
I never knew there were underground buses!
@french19563 жыл бұрын
Seattle had them for decades.
@samanli-tw3id3 жыл бұрын
How do they cope with the exhaust gases.
@DDELE73 жыл бұрын
@@samanli-tw3id that’s why they use electric buses in the tunnel. You then can avoid the cost of building expensive tunnel ventilation systems. The tunnel was built in conjunction with the Boston Big Dig project.
@erik_griswold3 жыл бұрын
Harvard Square station also has a similar tunnel.
@hacker-tx2uw3 жыл бұрын
i bet u never knew u have a lil bro thanks to me n ur mom lol get owned
@kimlemerise55803 жыл бұрын
I live in Boston and was aware of the Silver Line,but didn't know this is how it runs..
@BrettCook3 жыл бұрын
It looked like it was incredibly bumpy and noisy! Surprised that it didn't have a better surface being a dedicated lane.
@pilsudski363 жыл бұрын
The Silver line does not work well because it's "Neither fish nor fowl." It does physically match the rest of the MBTA system in any way. Sharp eyed passengers going eastbound on the Green Line from Arlington to Boylston will see a knockout panel on the right, where a century ago, there was provision for the Boylston street tuneel (Now the Green Line) to be extended to Post Office Square. If the Green line had been extended to South Station and the Seaport District under Essex Street, boardings to the Seaport district - and to Logan via the Silver Line - would have been much higher.
@philboudreaux98883 жыл бұрын
Fung Wah bus once went from NYC to South Station for 5 bucks.... had to always make sure you life insurance policy was paid because your life was in danger riding that bus. Fung Wah miss those days
@jackgrimaldi86853 жыл бұрын
Fung Wah was freaking awesome! The poor man's connection between Boston and NYC. Stupid feds ruin everything, they ran them out of business and they were never able to rebuild again. Who cares if your bus catches fire in Connecticut? For 5$ I'll take my chances.
@qjtvaddict3 жыл бұрын
@@jackgrimaldi8685 greyhound cut the fares and they came back under different names anyway
@susieboodoo84643 жыл бұрын
Hello from Trinidad. I am a frequent visitor to the US but our borders have been closed for a while now, to prevent the virus spread. Wow! Never heard of this. Wonder why the ride was so bumpy though? Thanks for sharing.
@zombienic3 жыл бұрын
Bumpy for sure but I love unique ways to travel! Thanks for sharing and enjoy the rest of your trip!
@ActionKid3 жыл бұрын
Haha, very bumpy!
@bostonwalkdrive77633 жыл бұрын
Nice to see you in Boston AK. The Silver Line is indeed a bit weird. The buses are very uncomfortable to ride on, but there is one great benefit - they are free from the airport. Just wait outside your terminal and get on, and it lets you off downtown. So easy. I can't understand why NYC never built a direct subway link from the airports to the city center. Another advantage we have is that there are actually 2 options from the airport - Blue line or Silver. One is free, the other is just a subway token. Both go from the airport to the city center. Not perfect, but I think we have NYC beat. (and let's not even get into sports;)
@gamereric21893 жыл бұрын
I live here, and take it ALL the time to world trade center, so I know a thing or 2 about it! The speed limit in the tunnels is set to 10 MPH for whatever reason, so its definitely slow. Its always uncomfortably bumpy, and always fun to sit across from the seat in the articulated area of the bus. When I tell you that seat in the bendy part shakes, I mean it. Otherwise, its pretty nice, though the bunching is oftentimes a pain in the butt. You'll wait 10+ minutes for a bus, and then 2 if not 3 busses show up all at one time.
@rmhornet38263 жыл бұрын
Underground bus system , lesser cost then a subway also avoiding all the traffic.
@Patzi24473 жыл бұрын
Never knew they had under ground busses 🚌. Thanks 🤩
@dhatchbernier3 жыл бұрын
I’m a native Bostonian, and NOBODY ever called the T the “Metro.”
@pghrpg40653 жыл бұрын
In Pittsburgh, our light rail (also called the T) shares a tunnel with the buses but only to get under Mt. Washington. Otherwise, the buses stay on the roads and busways. The T goes back underground once it crosses the Monongahela River. Anyway, it's nice that the Silver Line bus gets to be out of mixed traffic for any amount of time.
@Pisces-19783 жыл бұрын
Born + raised in South Boston, a stone's throw from South Station + our "underground bus". Gotta say I love the reaction from people! I know nothing but this as public transit. Good vid ☘
@AjbWhaYT3 жыл бұрын
I've been to Seattle before, I saw buses underground in the tunnels similar to Boston
@seamusrichard3 жыл бұрын
It closed in march of 2019 now only light rail trains use it
@NovaM873 жыл бұрын
I live in Boston and avoid taking the silver line because of the rattle. I always thought SL existed because MBTA run out of money to put a light rail.
@minnbeef3 жыл бұрын
A new drinking game would be to drink every time you say “odd”.
@janjelinek42833 жыл бұрын
He said it as I was reading the comment lol.
@youtubehandlesareridiculous3 жыл бұрын
@@janjelinek4283 how odd
@PreBCFan13 жыл бұрын
a deadly one
@amfm8893 жыл бұрын
The Silver Line tunnel is actually designed to the same dimensions as the Green Line (light rail), with the idea that it could upgraded to light rail. That'll never happen. It was built as a compromise to build transit to the Seaport District, but on the cheap. That bus ride has been a bumpy one since the day it opened!
@questionmark32193 жыл бұрын
This "T"-Sign looks like the Subway symbol of the Stockholm Metro.
@MIKEJ7883 жыл бұрын
Stockholm Metro? Hmm . Gotta Check It Out
@jamesnotfound3 жыл бұрын
It is! The MTA (the MBTA’s predecessor) took that idea from the Stockholm metro.
@RealConstructor3 жыл бұрын
That’s what it reminded me of! I had a feeling of recognition when I saw the T symbol, for Tunnelbana or T-bana. A good subway system, as I remembered from my citytrip to Stockholm, ten years ago. A beautiful city, by the way.
@lovelyheiferdev3 жыл бұрын
It was taken from Stockholm. Since the design is universal and not copyrightable, we also decided to use it (albeit with a few tweaks).
@briangiannelli98423 жыл бұрын
That s where they got the idea from I've been told
@Brettski_12343 жыл бұрын
Brisbane in Australia has a bus tunnel and stations under the centre of the city
@jonlaguerre31633 жыл бұрын
That rattling on the bus is home a little annoying but overall I think that is cool that they have an underground bus I want to ride it someday.
@rogerpizarro81283 жыл бұрын
I ride the sliver line all the time and I've never heard or felt that rattling. I think it was just the bus.
@aodhganmerrimac3 жыл бұрын
@@rogerpizarro8128 I ride it every day, it rattles, shakes & bounces!
@zioxei3 жыл бұрын
shitty cheap bus. the seats have zero fabric on them
@mariosphere3 жыл бұрын
I really hope one day they'll convert it into a light rail. It wouldn't be a big effort but a very big gain.
@aodhganmerrimac3 жыл бұрын
@@mariosphere Me too, but I don't know if the new Chelsea section was designed to accommodate Green Line cars. It should be able to since trolleys need less space than buses in general.
@junesilvermanb2979 Жыл бұрын
The Silver Line routes are among the most frequent MBTA bus routes. All routes (except for the SLW shuttle) run at least every 15 minutes during all service hours, save for late evening and weekend service on the SL4. At peak hours, combined frequency on the trunk sections is about 30 buses per hour (2 minute headways) in each direction in the Transitway, and 12 buses per hour (5 minute headways) on Washington Street. The routes have high ridership (though lower than many key bus routes) and low costs per rider compared to other bus routes in the MBTA system. In 2012, three routes (SL1, SL5, SLW) were the only MBTA bus routes to show a profit; the median net cost (after fares) on all MBTA bus routes was $2.13 per passenger. In 2019, combined weekday ridership on Silver Line routes was 39,000. In addition to the public route name, the Silver Line and crosstown routes have internal route numbers in the 700 series. The SL5 is designated 749 after the 49 bus it replaced, while the other routes have similar numbers.
@robertzeitz39243 жыл бұрын
Before the pandemic, I believe the Silver Line was maxed out on its capacity. I also think Boston makes transit lines (bus and metro) bumpy so they feel and sound fast moving even though they're slow.
@RsConqueror3 жыл бұрын
The reason this exists is to fulfill a contractual obligation they had to expand rapid transit as part of the big dig. By having a few dedicated stations and a "dedicated bus lane on Washington st" (which isn't enforced ) they could say they expanded "rapid transit" without having to actually build new light rail infrastructure which was the original plan. The result is a new "line" on the mbta that is mapped like a train, but in reality functions exactly like a regular city bus with a couple of dedicated stations, much like the trollybusses at Harvard station in Cambridge. Not that I'm mad about it or anything...
@gpan623 жыл бұрын
I think Seattle also has underground buses. I think Toronto has underground streetcars. It keeps people out of the weather transferring to the metro and it keeps buses out if traffic. In some places there is the idea (maybe not in Boston) that in future it can be converted to a subway system.
@PanduPoluan3 жыл бұрын
There are some benefits for "Rubber-tyred BRT Metro": (1) Ability to go hybrid/dual mode if needed, (2) Smaller tunnels, (3) Easier to add/remove capacity, (4) Can handle steeper grades, (5) Can handle tighter turns Of course there are drawbacks as well. Basically, like all engineering, it's a question of trade-offs.
@hpowlman91143 жыл бұрын
In CT we have fast track it’s like a highway only for the buses and emergency services
@24sweetroller73 жыл бұрын
This is something I did not know about in the Boston transit system. I knew about the traditional trolley coach system that was part of the old MTA for many years, and a small part of that system exists in Cambridge and Watertown. My last visit to the Boston area was in 2003. I have seen a couple of videos about their latest addition, The Silver Line, but have not seen it in action until seeing your video. This was a good introduction and I do hope to ride on it in the future. The idea of hybrid buses dates back to the early 1930's and '40's when Public Service Coordinated Transport in Newark, New Jersey had motor buses that ran as trackless trolleys. If you're interested, you can find out more on wikipedia, or in the book The Trolley Coach in North America by Mac Sebree and Paul Ward. There's another book, The Trackless Trolleys of Boston by Bradley Clarke. It was published by the Boston Street Railway Association. I don't know if it's still in print or not, but if you ask the folks at BSRA, they'll be happy to help. Thanks for the ride and the info about the Silver Line. See you again sometime.
@ivancuervo7773 жыл бұрын
When they switch to electric buses it will make a lot of sense
@kennikuhlmann-clark98603 жыл бұрын
The Silver Line is basically just a bus; some places it has it's own right of way, and most places it doesn't..... But the lack of rails is mainly done to save 'costs'.... Massachusetts is possibly the most inefficent states, in terms of getting things done in a cost-effective way.... Having a no rails, means the vehicles cannot travel at very high speed in the tunnels, for fear of hitting walls (although, Boston's 'rapid transit' system is not known as a 'speed demon' anyway, and some of the tight turns on the subway lines preclude speed)..... It appears these tunnels were, however, built with the possibility of having rails installed later.... Another problem with the Silver Line is that it cannot directly tie-in with the (true) streetcar system (In fact though, none of Boston's subway lines are compatible with each other, meaning there's no possibility of diverting trains or modifying routes between them). Buses advantages have always been that they can travel anywhere that there are roads, can pass other vehicles in front of them, and don't absolutely require overhead wires. Trackless trolleys require the overhead pairs of conductors, but can pass other vehicles to a certain extent. Silver Line hybrids only run on the overhead wires in the tunnels, it seems.
@rjujones82433 жыл бұрын
that was great to see ak underground bus and so far everything was clean ny better step there game up
@zioxei3 жыл бұрын
lol I guess clean public transportation is a rare sight in the US
@Conrailfan25963 жыл бұрын
@@zioxei yea that’s true
@LukeMarcheski8653 жыл бұрын
I grew up across the street from the World Trade Center stop and remember when it first opened. There is even a glimpse of my old apartment building at the intersection before Silver Line Way. Everyone was so excited about it. I've always thought of it as new but never different, this video really gave me perspective about something right in my back yard!
@haleyraven.lilrocket92413 жыл бұрын
Great video I love my city Boston have fun and absolutely love your videos action kid
@D-Rizzle6533 жыл бұрын
We have this in my city Brisbane Australia 🇦🇺 we have an underground bus stations and routes
@olgak.11393 жыл бұрын
l have Never read or saw something like that ,ever! A thought that became true ' Human creativity that serves the public in an alternative way! 👍👌✌
@paulquilter34813 жыл бұрын
Here in the U.K., which where I have just been watching the video, there is just one slightly similar version of the Boston bus. It runs from Luton to Dunstable (Luton is about 25 miles north of London). Unlike the Boston version, it does not go underground, but the bus is guided in what I think is a similar way to the underground section of the Boston bus. Over the past twelve months or so, having been in almost permanent lockdown (I live in Leicester, which is the most locked down city in the country), I have enjoyed exploring first of all New York, and more recently other areas through the walks you have put on the net. It has helped keep me reasonably sane, and I thank you for that. I look forward to watching more of your Boston videos.
@Gonk3 жыл бұрын
Never knew this existed, how cool. :)
@queendee86563 жыл бұрын
Facts💯💯💯
@DonnieDarko13 жыл бұрын
They're underground
@civishamburgum12343 жыл бұрын
I've never seen a bus rattle that much on tarmac. They must have some really bad roads on Boston.
@adam-g7crq3 жыл бұрын
That's a brilliant idea, could do with something like that in London, Oxford Street is one of London's busiest retail streets and there talking about pedestrianising it underground tunnels would be the ideal solution for the buses. Thanks for showing us the silver line AK
@MichaelTavares3 жыл бұрын
I think there are tube train tunnels directly under Oxford street aren’t there?
@starman5757gg3 жыл бұрын
You didn't mention the most important fact about the Silver Line..it's a hybrid bus. Electric underground, diesel above ground. You didn't notice the changeover at Silverline Way?
@andr_w3 жыл бұрын
Forgot the ferries! (Also, poor Mattapan High-speed Line...always forgotten!)
@georgepartin14823 жыл бұрын
This is by far the most interesting thing I’ve learned recently!
@MCWM85893 жыл бұрын
I love the silver line bus , its a connection from the other train line without walking outside to get ur next connection/destination its different form the normal but why does it have to be weird ? every city does things to stand out from the rest .
@freednighthawk3 жыл бұрын
Back when I lived in Seattle, they also had an underground bus tunnel. As far as I know, it's been discontinued because they are putting in light rail. I rode that system many a time. The cool thing was, the buses were dual power, so they'd come in from all around, running on diesel, and once they got to the mouth of the tunnel, they'd shut off the diesel, and connect pantographs, and run all electric through the tunnel. Even better, no fair was required to travel on the bus inside the tunnel, or downtown.
@trainzandplanes5223 жыл бұрын
Xcelciors tend to rattle a lot, plus, that’s mostly all muni has these days. They are sometimes not smooth buses at all.
@tylercapalot69383 жыл бұрын
damn, in Boston you HAVE to pay but in nyc you can just jump over the turnstile and go
@sswan96893 жыл бұрын
Ok; so this bus runs in an underground tunnel with no electricity, well that's different! Do they have an above ground bus that runs this same route &/or the subway that runs this same route. If they do: great options of transportation instead of driving 😁. I'm glad you showed us this mode of transportation.
@rogerpizarro81283 жыл бұрын
They do run via electricity when they are underground.
@aodhganmerrimac3 жыл бұрын
There are hardly any other transit options for this section of the city.
@unknownPLfan3 жыл бұрын
There are just the 3 silverline bus routes that use that tunnel. If you're not form the city though you'll see the silverline routes on the subway maps marked as subway routes and you'll feel scammed once you find out most of it runs like a normal bus - though more of the route it has bus-lanes, it's way too similar to a regular bus to really be designated as bus rapid transit outside of that tunnel and not all silverline busses use that tunnel. The other dumb thing is the transit authority has to go out of its way to buy and maintain dual mode busses - where the busses run on overhead wires just within that tunnel, and then diesel for the other silverline routes and the above ground section of the routes that use the tunnel.
@aodhganmerrimac3 жыл бұрын
@@unknownPLfan yup, & they are going abandon that investment by switching to battery buses, so damn wasteful.
@pqrstzxerty12963 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for underground airways.
@jhostintola30923 жыл бұрын
Weird and awesome great idea
@Bobrogers993 жыл бұрын
The Silver Line is a stopgap service, and not a cheap one to maintain. Built with both catenary and diesel systems, the hybrid buses must be quite expensive to buy and maintain. Apparently they have poor suspensions to give such a rattling ride. If there had been sufficient funds, this should have been developed as a light rail system, which would have been more economical and efficient in the long run.
@reemnistas83913 жыл бұрын
I'm from Massachusetts and I thought most states had this lol
@Buc_Stops_Here3 жыл бұрын
I used to live in Boston back in the 1990s. This came in 2002, a few years after I left. It was cheaper than putting in another rail line - the last being the extension of the red line past Cambridge in 1976. There were huge delays in the last red line subway extension as they argued over where the train would go as well as how many stops would be built. This bus goes to diesel above ground so it does generate a lot of pollution. Thanks for sharing.
@jhostintola30923 жыл бұрын
We have it in Ecuador but its on the outside
@neeljavia29653 жыл бұрын
Same here in India.
@oofyalDAMMIT3 жыл бұрын
Imagine Greyhound had a service similar to Amtrak, a truck at the front, and then connected with greyhound bus coaches. Equipped with e-bell or steel bells. Also adding sleepers and even a cafe car. How'd that sound?
@Draktand013 жыл бұрын
Huh, this makes it possible to branch out into the Suburbs way easier.
@lovelyheiferdev3 жыл бұрын
Only the northern suburbs if you're taking the silver line. Regular buses are used everywhere else.
@erikaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa3 жыл бұрын
It was fun to see you excited to experience the SL- I used to take it to work every day so it never occurred to me that other places don't have underground buses! You didn't see this on the video, but some buses are both electric (when underground) and diesel powered- the bus has to stop and switch between the two on it's route. Very cool- until the switch breaks down on a cold morning on your way to work haha. Thanks for coming to Boston!
@erikaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa3 жыл бұрын
Oh and I should have said- the MBTA also runs ferries like NYC! Though they mainly serve smaller, outer islands or towns so they aren't used by high volumes of people.
@BJBeds3 жыл бұрын
Is this actually a guided bus- so the driver isn’t actually steering the vehicle?
@aodhganmerrimac3 жыл бұрын
Nope.
@lovelyheiferdev3 жыл бұрын
Not yet. (I hope the future allows it, tho)
@aodhganmerrimac3 жыл бұрын
@@lovelyheiferdev It would make more sense to convert it to light rail, which was an idea bandied about at it's inception.
@lovelyheiferdev3 жыл бұрын
@@aodhganmerrimac I'd love it but the T is too scared to make more light rail, lol
@aodhganmerrimac3 жыл бұрын
@@lovelyheiferdev Yes I do think they are., buses are easy for them, little initial cost outlay & they can shut it down any time they like.
@lionbill3 жыл бұрын
Never heard of this type of system but looked pretty good & efficient to me. Don't know what time of the day this trip was taken, but there sure weren't a lot of riders. Also I read in the 'comments' that the buses while underground they're powered by a catenary, and once out of the tunnel they use diesel, which makes them even more unique. Thanks for an interesting post . . .