T-80UD - "The New Russian Premium On The Block"

[@botimegaming]

Would you rather be 12 inches tall or 12 feet tall?

[@Joethenugg18]

12 inches

[@subspacesub2248]

ngl 12 inches lol

[@mr.abrams9885]

12 inches ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@SuprsandwichLord]

12 feet

[@gamergumilyov8579]

Inches, so that I can go down the Toll roads without an EZ tag

[@Zegerman_12]

Fun fact in tanker training we're taught to never drive through or into a building unless you have too, not because you might damage the tank tho i suppose that could happen, no the reason why you should never drive a tank through a building is because if the building has a basement or something of the sort there's a vary good chance that the flooring wont hold up to the weight of a 70 ton death machine rampaging across the battlefield. The more you know ;)

[@Tanknuggets217]

Thank you for this😂😂😂

[@EdyAlbertoMSGT3]

Isnt that basically how the killdozer went down?

[@Heinzdoodle]

Lmao never really thought of that. How about the barrels and walls? Is the gun steel strong enough to get through a wall or would you wreck your barrel?

[@Zegerman_12]

@EdyAlbertoMSGT3 if I remember right, I believe it did get stuck in the basement of a home.

[@Zegerman_12]

@Heinzdoodle having never had to drive through a building before I can't really say, I believe that you could damage the barrel not just bending, which would be hard to do but you could mess up the stabilization of the barrel because of the impact

[@michaelkarnerfors9545]

07:30 Soviet tank warranty guarantees that, in case a tank fails to protect your life, you simply need an order - signed in triplicate, sent in, sent back, queried, lost, found, subjected to public inquiry, lost again, and finally buried in soft peat for three months and recycled as firelighters - to get a new tank.

[@dabiga2315]

Hitchhiker's reference

[@michaelkarnerfors9545]

@@dabiga2315 You are a person that know where your towel is. 👍

[@forcea1454]

T-80UD was developed by KMDB in Kharkiv, obviously when the USSR broke up the factory that built them was in Ukraine. T-80UDs were operated by the Russian Federation for some years afterwards, and fired upon the White House (the Russian Parliament, not the American one) in 1993, and as the engines broke down without support from KMDB, the T-80UD hulls were scrapped and the turrets were removed and placed on T-80BV hulls to create T-80UE1s. Most of the T-80UDs that were in Ukraine were eventually sold to Pakistan, with a few examples, complete with Drozhd APS, being sold to the US for OPFOR training. Ukrainians developed the T-84 series for the T-80UD, with a new welded turret, and transmission with a better reverse speed.

[@SodaZilla]

Bout time someone puts a better reverse gear into it

[@alexanderK2700]

Steven Zaloga's book T-80 tank, T-80UD was designed by Nikolai Shomin(russian) who was the new chief designer after A.Morozov(russian) in Malyshev Plant, there was a dispute whenever it should be called T-80UD or T-84 but they chose the first one because it would be believed that the Soviets were operating 4 different tanks, 500 models were produced with 320 stationed in kharkov and the other were in Omsk.

[@andrejkondic1709]

Loved the history lesson by Sturms, if we could get that segment in more videos that would be awasome

[@LudensP]

Seconded!

[@gavinphillips3973]

There was a recent announcement concerning re-starting production of T-80's. But great information there by Sturms. 👍👍

[@Csigrandadmrial78]

I agree!

[@smartin23964]

Honestly, I enjoy the "lessons" as much as the game. I'd certainly welcome more of it.

[@edim108]

100% Agreed!

[@gv4058]

The difference between the diesels in the T-72/T-90 and T-64/T-80ud are quite drastic. The T-64/T-80ud engines are 2-stroke opposed piston engines (thus the higher pitch sound), pretty much a engine with 2 crank shafts on each end that hold pistons that share the same cylinder and move towards each other. So for example if you have a 6 cylinder opposed piston diesel it would have 12 pistons, this design also means there's no intake or exhaust valves but ports that are un/covered by the pistons and air is forced into the cylinders via a blower. As for the T-72/T-90 engines they're just your common 4-stroke V12 diesels sort of descendents of the V-2 (T-34 etc engine). Also more history times with sturmling.

[@petergray2712]

The T-64 engine was much more labor and time intensive in manufacturing and maintenance than conventional diesels. That's why the Soviets went back to a conventional diesel on the T-72/T-90 series.

[@edim108]

​@@petergray2712Same thing with the Chieftain's L60 opposed piston diesel. Opposed piston engines can theoretically be more reliable and require less maintenance but in practice conventional diesels are just more practical so far.

[@RenaultFT]

When Sturmling gets into an Su-25, the nascent T-800 programming boots up and he engages with danger turnips

[@khannaraha8817]

Sturmling in a plane is one of the most dangerous things I've ever seen, just the ruthless efficiency of one-shot one-kill. And absolutely silent as he does so as well.

[@gmaacentralfounder]

Small expansion on small history lesson on T-80UD: when gas turbine showed to have "issues" (which were basically not enough material quality and build quality), Soviets went ahead and started developing better engine. By better it was meant "ease of repair, more powerfull and lower profile", as current generation(s) of B-2 (V-2 in English) were not good enough for T-80/T-90, even though it was good enough for T-34. So they built a new family of engines, called 2v. Basically it's either 6-cylinder or 12-cylinder opposed-cylinder powerpack, with V6 being flat line and v12 being x-cross layout. 2v-12-03 is basically what's in T-14 Armata (12Н360 or 12N360 in English) and they basically deliver what they are supposed to do: they are powerpacks that are swapped like turbines, are lower than other engines and definitely consume less fuel than gas turbine. Still, even the 1200HP engine is not good enough for T-14. But they are way better than old V-2 line and another 5TD boxer engine they experimented with in T-64. Oh, and they're DEFINITELY NOT version of old PzKpfw V engines, as urban legend goes.

[@stromyepd6717]

1:05 love that skoda there

[@nimble_doughnut9757]

Bro 9:44 was a straight up execution by the Abrams…

[@IceSki117]

Sturms needs to remind everyone of his delivery efficiency since it has been a few months since his stint as the postman on the Bo&Co Hide n' Seek challenge.

[@jtl-08]

Great video Bo! Loved the history lesson thanks sturms! nice shot on the Raam Segol at 10:34 and incredible second to last game

[@mareign]

That camera bug is the most obnoxious thing introduced. There are more game breaking bugs but none that annoy me more.

[@TheGrimmGamer0725]

3:20 sturmlin should make a talk show about tanks lol also holy GE

[@harpoon311]

really like the short history lesson by Sturmling :)

[@Phoenix_Phelan]

I love learning a bit of history about these vehicles from these videos! Great video Bo! And thank you Stick, Sturmling, and Th0r for helping with it!

[@notjunior5079]

and once again we learn more cool stuff from sturmling

[@sabregunner1]

great stuff you guys. loved the history segment with sturms. cheers to stick, bo, sturms, and thor

[@subspacesub2248]

YOOOO Bo uploaded! Thanks for more tonk gameplay :DDD

[@tallleprechaun1318]

Thank you Sturmling for the history tidbit. Always fun to hear

[@ODST_Parker]

I absolutely love the history lessons! Feel free to include that in any and all videos!

[@deadronin47]

I watch for a good laugh when I hear sturms in video The history lesson

[@Kruna-ty8xe]

T-80UD is tank with similar engine in T-64. Two stroke opposed piston engine, not only diesel, but can use petrol or kerosene.

[@SodaZilla]

Ever since the creation of the T-72, they continued to just upgrade it and renaming it by upgraded wise, if I’m correct of this statement the T-90 is the latest “remodeled” T-72 in their inventory right now. The full T-80s that were used mostly were the ones that were able to use more mobility.

[@nebitno6955]

You could say that about t72 and t80 since they have same chassis and turret design with some upgrades on later models , T90 isn't the same tho, turret is different design and welded, it has new control system, new generation optics, sensors, reactive armor, even new main gun. Also added spal liners, slate armor.. Different tank entirely.

[@zeacrossstormblade6819]

Bo Time Gaming is my favorite educational channel

[@williamludwick77]

16:25 I died several times earlier this week because of that issue. So annoying and frustrating that they messed something up. Luckily it wasn't happening every game, but when it did it failed spectacularly 😢

[@liladoodle]

Attempt number 1103: Please try out the Stridsvagn M/42 Delat Torn. (Labelled as the Strv. M/42 DT in the Swedish Tech Tree.)

[@mahieuwim]

@@Muddfoot01 I did the same math a few weeks ago. 1103 videos ago was nr. 958, uploaded on 15th April 2018... and that's counting all videos, not just WT.

[@liladoodle]

To the two that are questioning my attempt counter, here's the real answer. I started out with a channel on an IPad, requesting vehicles here and there, especially the Strv. M/42 DT once Sweden was added to the game. But sadly, the IPad died after two years due to poor treatment by me. To try and fox a problem, we wiped the thing's memory. As a result, the channel and all it's comments were deleted. When I got a phone in 2020, and re-discovered Bo, I decided to start from where I had left off originally. So there, can you lay off of me now?

[@positionlightproductions6187]

Bo do the ZUT-37! It's a fun little tank and has a punchy cannon for it's BR.

[@petergroves4129]

He is a well informed individual which i myself appreciate whilst playing WT.

[@bassplayersayer]

12 feet tall. Rock on !!!!!!

[@furioussherman7265]

I think the mall Bo drove through might've been previously driven through by the Blues Brothers.

[@burner8959]

Wee need a weekly segment of "History lessons with Sturmling".

[@Mythic366]

Can you guys do more history lessons or even start a podcast on tank history

[@Account5945]

So with sturmlings comment about Thailand using T84s at 7:02 does that mean Japan is getting a T84??

[@andylopez6145]

Bo is the best warthunder youruber, change my mind :

[@Bossdom2010]

Absolutely. Spookston is pretty good to though. Not as much comedy tho

[@Bossdom2010]

Bo is better in my opinion

[@andylopez6145]

@@Bossdom2010 yeah also oddballz

[@227thw0lpak]

Thank Y'all for a wonderful video hope the crew had a blast.❤

[@TheBudkai]

I liked the history lesson!

[@petergroves4129]

Sturmling seems to be a well informed individual in relation to tanks.

[@samoldfield5220]

Stirmling was wrong. The "issue" with the T-80s gas turbine is it's CRAZY expensive. The Diesel on the T-72/90 cost a little over 20k while the GT on the T-80 costs 130k because they're so difficult to mass produce. The T-80UD was an experiment to see if they could just get the T-72 diesel to work so there'd be backup engines for the T-80 since replacement GTs wouldn't be available. Additionally the Russians are now making new T-80 hulls in addition to refurbishing existing hulls. Though it is only a handful a month for now, the idea is that when they run out of old hulls to refurbish they'll be able to increase the production of new hulls straight away. I think at this point every single politician in the Russian Federation has toured the factory where they are made. The primary reason for the T-80s gas turbine btw is not performance as per the Abrams, but rather gas turbines can operate at temperatures below -40 degrees, which is the freezing temperature of diesel fuel, and there are plenty of places in Russia that regularly get that cold.

[@Pirog-v-Kote]

T-80UD doesn't use the T-72's engine. It has 6TD - engine from T-64 (5TD) with additional 6th piston and most likely has the same transmission

[@samoldfield5220]

@@Pirog-v-Kote Yeah I know, but the point to it was to see if it was possible to get the T-80s to run on the much more common V-92 engine if they had to. They couldn't.

[@Juho-uf8si]

20:00 nnaahhh i lost my mind seeing that BMD-4 haha

[@beachside1]

I love stories by Sturmling

[@a22gamingWT]

I would love to just sit down in a voice chat and just chat with Sturmling and talk tanks.

[@MarcusBurkenhare]

Bo, were you quoting the song Star Trekkin' with that line about only going forward? Still can't find reverse.

[@Altusloubser-bv7ft]

Just subbed!!!! Love your channel, keep it up!

[@bavondale]

0:22 "You're not gonna find a deal in a mall" lol

[@pvtnewb]

It's a funny T-80U with a souped up T-64B drivetrain, the T-72s were using the V-12 diesels (some exception here of course for some obscure Ukrainian models), meanwhile the T-80UD uses the opposed piston 6 cylinder engine that's derived from the T-64 programme, it's more of a convenience thing for the Ukrainians tbh. The people of KMDB is more familiar with the opposed piston diesel, meanwhile the Omsktransmash people are more familiar with the turbines.

[@YurgenKeckhut]

Did Bo drop a F-Bomb at 20:50?

[@MJPIA]

2S38, Turms, T80UD, SU-25, nab the squadron BMP-2M and Object 292 and you've got yerself a pay2lineup and never once death leave again. Wild how much gaijin focuses on 10.0, this must be where the money is for them.

[@MechaNick767]

Big thx to Sturms for the interesting technical facts on Soviet tanks. Very cool. 👍

[@pmcoutch7473]

We need more sturmling history sessions

[@adamtruong1759]

3:10 Wait... the T-80 has that weird turret armor with the porcelain balls in it like the T-64?

[@TheGiraffe]

Love the video Bo!

[@botimegaming]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@snubbelbuff1471]

@5:36 "Bakaaa bakaaa bakaaa" Is this the definition of a Turkey Shoot?

[@YvesBrulotte]

Fuckin love when sturmling make history of tanks :D awesome !

[@therelatablegamer7012]

thanks for the vid bo!

[@starflame34]

I know you've guys have been playing this game for years, but how the hell did you notice the ANTENAS of all things at 7:50!?

[@krypticpanda6670]

Watching Bo fly an Su25 like that is traumatising

[@RyRy_941]

The agony you all must have felt from playing at 10.0 was well worth it. Loved the video!! Really enjoyed the Ted Talk from Sturmling. The man's sass is only exceeded by his wisdom of Russian military vehicles.

[@JNBurdo5]

@botimegaming yeah that issue you were having with the gun sights and the turret turning..... I've been having it too ever since they added the new vehicles. It's also effecting every nation and randomly too.. Sometimes it happens and then goes away for awhile only to come back while playing a couple of hours later... Ah good old Gaijin every update they fix like 2 bugs only to add a 100 more.....

[@garryb374]

It is not strictly true to say they are slapping new stuff onto things they already have. The T-14 and the B-14 and the K-14 are all new tanks with new more powerful diesel engines. They use gas turbine engines in the T-80s because they use them in the Arctic and in their navy units because gas turbines don't care about the cold and can use the fuels the navy uses. The new build T-80s will likely be existing T-80s from storage upgraded to the new T-80BVM level and possibly with 1,250hp GT engines. The original GT engine was 1,000hp, while the diesel engine of the T-80UD was 1,200hp. The T-80 was expensive to operate but had very good mobility and suited very very cold weather and naval conditions so it was used in the far east and the far north and by the navy, but otherwise was kept in storage. Some experts are hoping the T-80BVM upgrade will do to the T-80 what they did to the T-72 to make it the T-90. The T-64 and T-80 are the expensive but capable tanks, while the T-72 was the cheap tank to replace all the tens of thousands of older types. It was the mass production tank. The T-90 upgraded the T-72s performance to T-64/T-80 levels. Experts are hoping they might make the T-80 cheaper to operate but still capable, and have been suggesting T-100 as a designation for it.

[@kylemartin1166]

The perfect title for this video would have been "The new Russian premium on the Bloc"

[@LeverActionBoi]

use the pasta puma (AB 43) at top tier so that the SABOT just passes through you

[@garryb374]

The gas turbine was never broken. It burned a lot of fuel so they wanted a less thirsty diesel engine and both were made in the Ukraine so when the Soviet Union split up they wanted a Russian engine. The new more powerful diesel engines for their tanks were made in Ukraine too, so they only had the T-80UD with D meaning diesel engines that had been made before the split. The Russians kept the gas turbine powered T-80s because they are rather good in extreme cold conditions and also the navy uses fuels that the T-80s can run on that makes it useful. The Russians make the 1,250hp gas turbines and are getting close to a 1,500hp engine as I understand it. Unlike the US Abrams gas turbine the Soviet turbines for their tanks use a vibration cleaner in their air filter system so it does not have to be cleaned out every 6 hours. Gas turbines are not good for very heavy vehicles that stop and start a lot, but when armoured vehicles shift to electric drive then gas turbines will be ideal because running at efficient RPMs just generating electricity they are compact and fuel efficient as long as they are not put under torque loads.

[@therealjoshuacaleb4873]

Who else LOVES Sturmlings history lessons. I do!!!

[@jumbo_thunder]

I was in a game with you yesterday :)

[@petergroves4129]

Just a question. Is Sturmling a person who is well versed in Armoured Warfare?

[@kieranrobins4017]

Where does Sturmling learn everything? I’d love to be able to rattle of facts like that but I haven’t no idea where to start 😭

[@SDE1994]

is that mall in the intro a new map?

[@reapersteelwolf4327]

soviet tanks, the physical embodiment of kicking the can down the road till you can't anymore

[@Frankestein01nl]

Pretty sure Sturmling would love to visit Master Milo ('s tank) .. ;)

[@elijahsellers3727]

Hey, when yall get around to it, could yall do a Bradley video?

[@GarGhuul]

Is that a Tactical Log-Carrier on the back of the turret?

[@actualbrad]

I knew you would take us to hot topic one day

[@type_x_atm_092]

Opinions on War Thunder Mobile?

[@Typhoon153]

My soul was free I deleted war Thunder but after this video I think ima sell my soul again and come back

[@OldSchoolClassicGarage]

the mall is the next hind 'n' seek

[@hrexthedoish3419]

Can we get more tech talks from Sturms

[@jamesstevenson9056]

Can we see the Zerstörer in a future video?

[@NagoyaRR]

Do you think Gaijin will add T-84's at some point?

[@dabiga2315]

I noticed an ATGM in the ammo options, is it any good?

[@kristoferkenny6161]

You could say the "bill" is in the mail.

[@Pineapplebob1775]

Great video

[@n1thecaptain965]

I assume the mall was on the new map set in the Netherlands? Considering you guys immediately got mugged by a random stranger, I'd say that's accurate representation

[@Jason_vinion]

Where in the Netherlands do you live? I’ve never had this problem nor heard that it was prolific?

[@panzerofthelake506]

​@@Jason_vinionit might be more recent due to the immigration problem

[@maxwellmaragia2272]

Honestly they could downtier all 4km reverse speed tanks from China and Russia by -1 br and they would still be bad. I can't understand why people complain just because their UFP is not as easy to pen as other tanks

[@lukedavies8467]

12 inches and by the way can u play the kv2 or the F4005V

[@frikkiedelange7785]

I want a Soviet tank facts with Sturms video series! Plz make it happen.

[@shubhamjuvatkar4023]

Latest War Thunder update is the most buggiest update Gaijin rolled out

[@Fitzwalrus06]

New maps!! Woo-Hoo!! 😎👍

[@Daginni1]

Where is stand issued wood log for Russian Space Programs turret rocket?

[@xtlegacy1020]

nice shots,

[@danielcoors4300]

Sturms go pro 😊

[@karamramji]

Plz can you do a video on the Tortoise

[@Sengyizhe]

I love schizo hours with Jim and story time with sturmling. Great contrasting content :)

[@kinga9522]

I had a dream I was watching them play helldivers 2

[@eagle_412]

Whats the name of the new map, the one with the mall

[@TyrannoJoris_Rex]

Neither the T-64 nor T-80 were exported while the Soviet Union was still around right?

[@TomPrickVixen]

Yea its a T-80 that plays like a T-72. Still another T-80 without the improvements of a T-80!

[@tkharris10]

Love the video but can you get Jim to do the history lessons? In a foreign accent of some kind? 😂

[@garryb374]

The diesel engine made for the T-80U to make the T-80UD was designed and made in Ukraine, which is why the Russians don't use them in other vehicles and want a replacement.