BOUGHT THE CHEAPEST 3rd Gen Cummins on marketplace. Not Running… how bad is it?

[@ChrisHogie97]

The honking in reverse is from a tsb. It was a reflash for "out of park alarm" if the door isn't shut all the way when it's in reverse it will honk at you. Can be reflashed and that can be removed

[@tylerblack9518]

Mine would honk if I backed up with the door open and the seat belt unlatched

[@CPSteveMiller]

I think that's an 06+ thing. My 06 does it too and I hate it. Seat belt chime has been shut off but the fact that the alarm goes off if the door is open is nuts

[@tylerblack9518]

@@CPSteveMiller I had an 04 automatic very similar to this one

[@ethanmillican7451]

My 06’ does it too

[@davidmantz2092]

My 05 cummins does the same.

[@ivandaza3900]

My 03 does it

[@jeffreypinder9398]

I have to hand it to you, you know your Cummins engines. I would have been a tad skeptical on a truck with over 435K miles. Great job getting it squared away, Sam. Looking forward to the progress.

[@VBELTandSON]

Truck only has 300 Old gauge cluster failed. Swapped to the high mile number unfortunately

[@jeffreypinder9398]

@@VBELTandSON Has to be a way to reset that. GM has a solution for their vehicles.

[@MidwestMechanics]

I bought a Cummins with 745k miles and didn’t even hesitate to buy it. Mileage doesn’t matter on these engines…it’s the definition of mileage is “just a number”.

[@KenMitchell-kc9nr]

My 03 has 506k, pan & head have never been off.

[@jeffreypinder9398]

@KenMitchell-kc9nr Impressive.

[@waverider48]

It's always neat to watch videos from different states; living in the rust belt...that rust/rot is 100% assumed to already be there, if it's not it's because it was replaced less than a year ago lol

[@MyLonewolf25]

Facts. I have a good laugh at what southerners call rust. They got no clue 😂

[@georgeenriquez612]

That’s cool and funny you bought that truck, I seen it on marketplace a couple hours away from my house and I was eye balling it because I like the Bradford bed on it and it is a sharp looking truck overall. I’m glad you’re bringing it back to life and giving it some much needed love.

[@actually_eli]

How much was it

[@K3VG979]

How much was it tell us 😮

[@MyLonewolf25]

@@actually_eli too much

[@rkelly5803]

Right, why do these tubers never tell what they paid. Helps others out with pricing.

[@VBELTandSON]

Because it’s my business. I buy them and fix them up for resale. I don’t share prices because ppl get weird when I post it up for sale and a higher number once it’s fixed up. Market place has plenty of prices. I paid less than those prices. All you need to know:)

[@PrestonWeight]

Bought an 03 a few months ago and have some tiny rust bubbles forming so I can’t wait to see you repairing the rust. I’m planning on repairing those spots ASAP. Super clean and runs like a champ.

[@richardharvey8939]

Those side rails fold down. Once you start using them. At hitching time they are great. Bradford had the highest rated rear hitch of all the flatbed makers at the time I bought mine 5 years ago. The Bradford gooseneck is really good too. The finish has held up really nice on mine here in Texas. Mine has the 4 side boxes.

[@karljacobson1575]

Those Bradford beds are made in Kansas. Well made!! I’m from Kansas. I’d like to find a truck like that for a farm truck!!

[@averykienbaum2904]

Im dying to know what you payed 😂, i just bought a 08 6.7 with 160k miles. And DPF problems got a good deal! Ordered my parts should be up and running better next week!!

[@hutchh.6933]

I bought a F350 out of Chicago that was a 28K low mile truck...I checked underneath very closely....it has fresh undercoating but looked good. 2 years later all that new undercoating had peeled off and revealed all the rust LOL The pickup bed completely disintegrated. Pullled the bed, blasted the frame and coated with por19, installed a flatbed. Good truck now. Not sure how the cab did not get rust.

[@mikebyrne6030]

Because the bed holds water and drains around more being open the the elements especially with snow and salt

[@Liimpy]

I used to run lucas for years as well, until i found Amsoil All in 1.. man, that some good ish.. Man i used a 21 duramax 3500 dually last week to tow an excavator .. dam thing surprised the hell out of me how well it towed.. merry Christmas ✌️

[@kenporcher2301]

ATF is by far the best attitve for those trucks that have been sitting The horn going off in reverse is the ICU not seeing the driver door switch....it was a software update Dodge did back in 2003 to turn on the horn if the truck was in reverse with the driver door open....super pain in the ass backing up to trailers One thing to keep in mind is that year of truck .....everything runs through the ICU....and its obsolete....I was fortunate enough to find a reman when my OD started acting up....sold the truck now but 03 to 04.5 have ICU issues that can cause a lot of problems

[@charlespetersonii6989]

What is the ICU and where is it located. Just picked up a 03 common rail. Thanks

[@kenporcher2301]

@@charlespetersonii6989 It's the instrument cluster aka guages

[@Noeya70]

I’ve got the save truck with the nv5600 So far I’ve had to replace the turbo, went with a 62/65/12 come to find out the stock turbo had a stuck open waste gate. Bought it with air dog lift pump and a bully dog tuner. Think I’m going to do the valve lash here soon. But now that you said something about how the rev sorta sticks I might have the onset so I’ll try to clean her out but if that doesn’t work looks like Ill be getting some new injectors

[@ianreed5060]

TO ANYONE WANTING TO USE LUCAS OIL ADDITIVE DO NOT USE IN WINTER IF YOUR CLIMATE DIPS BELOW 32°. Basically asking for a gel up.

[@JHorvathCinema]

Buy the factory rockers and just section the body at the proper distance from the door hinge. It’s way easier to just drill out the spot welds and only have finishing to do on the pillars than have long weld seams along the whole rockers

[@VBELTandSON]

Got a new welder for a reason! Let r eat

[@JHorvathCinema]

@@VBELTandSON ha! Spoken like a like a true west coaster! I’m sure it’ll turn out nice either way. Jealous of all the clean body trucks in your collection

[@VBELTandSON]

@@JHorvathCinema figure if I didn’t end up with this one it would continue rotting with who ever bought it next. I just don’t want to get into extra body work where it is still Solid and good paint. Plus factory parts ain’t cheap I already have steal to patch it together with and metal working tools. Rather pay myself the money to make the simple rockers

[@BuckInchuteranch1]

I might be interested in that truck and I know I’m not too far away from you, going by the scenery I’ve seen in some of the videos. I’m down the hill near the Ford dealership you test drove the new Ford after trying Tow Piglet’s.

[@brentmcmahon8188]

Change them injectors quick or you will melt a piston and usually 4-5-6 are the hot ones and check the rail pressure bypass sender unit and may be weak and let to much fuel return to tank.

[@brentmcmahon8188]

It rated there because the tape came off the back and I replaced it with some good heavy duty tape and sprayed bed linner over tape 6-7 years still good to go !!

[@mikerobertson1250]

Miss the truck videos! Hope you get back to posting more often! Favorite channel on KZbin 💯

[@TheRoeshow0324]

Being from Upstate NY I’m surprised there isn’t more rust. The amount of salt DOT uses here is absurd

[@nou8257]

I've got a dmax sitting around that is from ny and its kinda like the dodge he bought someone must of taken really good care of cleaning the salt or it lived a short life in ny till it wrecked here in tn

[@MintMonte87ACSS312]

It is pretty suprising. Where I live in New York (spring water) they don’t use salt often. It’s mainly sand because of all the hills. I’ve found a few decent pickups out this way.

[@TheRoeshow0324]

@@MintMonte87ACSS312 you are just north of me. I’m right between the salt mine of Watkins Glen and Geneseo. So they just layer that salt on the roads. I have to undercoat my truck and trailers. If I don’t I won’t have a frame in 5 yrs

[@gjones5153]

@@TheRoeshow0324 I know what you mean I live in Oswego and down the road from the county highway garage so every time it snows I hear a plow go buy every ten min salting the road. I have winter and summer vehicles. In my experience I couldn't fight the rust. I buy a winter vehicle from down south with high miles and keep it about 4-5 years then on to the next one.

[@gjones5153]

now you know what we deal with here in NY. My 96 cummins has been stored for six months every year

[@wesstansbury5375]

Put the factory grill back on it 👍

[@liamadvena2921]

Factory grill is so ugly

[@mh-wy9jy]

A very VGG inspired walk-around. Nice score man!

[@Sage-qd6tf]

Oh you think THAT rust is bad, I have an 05 third gen gasser and I have no cab corners, no rockers, practically half the bed is gone and rust falls off if you walk past it. Smack your head on the underneath and you get a rust shower. There’s a pile of rust flakes an inch thick on the inside of my front bumper cover. There’s lots of light coming through the old oil pan but me and dad put a new one on. Pretty sure the emergency brake is also rusted up right tight. Love it tho… now to just fix the rest of the problems and put her on the road! Yeah I’m from New York

[@leonardrice2830]

Really nice. 🤔 About 40k miles on my 2018 3500 Silver G56. My TRX has been distracting me, but life is about land, diesels, & guns.🤔 Utility beds rock!😃

[@brentmcmahon8188]

Need to move the cummins badge on the back of front fenders first thing I did on my brand new 05 3500 5.9 6 speed manual and it’s not for sale but I have been offered sticker price from both guys and the run body shops !!

[@lyndonhamby7432]

Still love my 06 G56 3500 dually. Bought it new 👍👍

[@natejames289]

Hey good video I got a white long bed 2003 3rd gen cummings myself I love it but every forum says they are junk mine has s&b cold air intake 185hp injectors even the old bully dog chip I don't use ever I should some time had it 11 years now I love the truck you got a good looking 03 ? 04 nice oregon boy 5.9 3rd gen cummings good video

[@evb1777]

I admire that you talked through the deal as well!

[@zacktexley953]

If the shift indicator is not "circled" around say...the "D" for drive (on the PRND on the dash), it will honk at you. Basically yelling that it cannot detect what motion you're in. My buddies 2003 Ram 2500 cummins does the same thing when shifted to Park. Also, just had to do injectors on his as well. Tried diagnosing every possible, cheap, option as to why his would hard start (only start on ether). 6 new injectors later...

[@ohyeahjosiah3722]

😂 ya when my trucks starter goes out usually I just park it and buy a new one right

[@VBELTandSON]

True. Ended up needing injectors. Glad it had a new bed on it or the deal would have been bad

[@alsun35]

you should see those third gens up here in alberta, worst dodges for rust.

[@brentmcmahon8188]

When I hauled cars for GM we dumped ATF in them all the time and when it would get super cold some guys would dump a couple of gallons of gas into fuel and we two 150 tanks but it would make the start a lot easier in supper cold weather and I always put 50 gals of JET A fuel in the tanks and would keep from jelling up and start really good JET A is just supper clean with additive know as kerosene!

[@KenMitchell-kc9nr]

Can't do that now. Kerosene has red dye. Untaxed fuel has red dye. The SAME red dye. If you get tested, you'll get busted for dyed fuel. The charge is tax evasion.

[@5cent27]

I’d love to get an 07 6-speed bug eye mega cab and put one of these 3rd gen front clips on it. I love the mega cab but absolutely HATE those bug eye front ends.

[@BuckInchuteranch1]

Red tint on the fuel filter could just be he ran red diesel or atf?

[@Hydra360ci]

Stay away from Autozone for that starter... that's the only advise I can give. Guess it needs a new clockspring if it's honking.... They probably raised the bed with those spacer things, so the headache rack could clear the cab as well as give it more rear wheel clearance. Heh...never did tell us the price.

[@VBELTandSON]

Rodger that and I don’t share prices if it’s a flipper rig

[@jaredwutz2454]

I live in NY, I'm jealous of that truck. It got to leave this state. Can't say Cali is better but where you are looks awesome.

[@_j0rd4n_]

DUDE that truck was serviced in my home town in nj thats crazy

[@kylefitzherbert9381]

Sam my 03 dings at me randomly too. Have never been able to figure it out. Only dings once after starting. If you happen to figure it out throw it in a video. Thanks

[@brentmcmahon8188]

My third Gen won’t start and I thought. It was the by pass that it was letting fuel go by. And what’s funny it was the Atlantic system . My garage had a small fire and it would not fire the injectors and I used my key Phob to start and it fired right up and that’s pretty cool so all was good !!

[@brentmcmahon8188]

Alarm system that would not let the injectors fire !!!!

[@floydieharris6236]

You can’t drop that bed down and keep that tire size. When you tow anything heavy the tires will rub the bed when the suspension is compressed.

[@VBELTandSON]

That’s what are bags are for 🤘🏻

[@ArmyProperty]

We’ve got a 2003 common rail and it runs like a champ. 400k and climbing fast.

[@KenMitchell-kc9nr]

My 03 has 506k.

[@osrr6422]

10:30 For some reason I recall being told that has something to do with the gear shifter position or the range switch on the trans.

[@brentmcmahon8188]

It has that UPS horn when you put in reverse the horn honks .

[@6literfuelaholic655]

Viewing from ontario canada here, im a mechanic for a company that has 75+ dumptruck snow plows so i know how much salt sucks, but knoeing you dont even think about rust almost makes me cry lol rust is the only thing factoring on price around here, rust free, no matter what is almoat douboe price here for old trucks

[@BioHazardra]

i said i wouldnt buy a northern truck then i impulse bought my 2015 2500 hemi. well go figure its a northern truck. luckily all it needs is a fender its got rust under the bubbling paint but thats about it. im in southwest VA so still around salt it wont stay perfect by any means but i still love the truck

[@jacobcaniglia5351]

Hey dude, awesome video. I have a pick up very similar to this one that needs a lot of work as well. I'll be staying tuned to see all of your progress. 👍🏽

[@michaelweatherhead9470]

Thanks for the video Sam Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and your family ❤️❤️👍.

[@brandonm6052]

My 05 had an ecm flash that made the horn honk if in reverse with the door open, such a pain on the farm

[@treybeauregard5321]

Check the crank play front to back I bet it has more thrust play then you think, that’s likely some of the hard start issue

[@VBELTandSON]

@@treybeauregard5321 bad injectors. New injectors fixed it

[@Kcogg69]

Hey she was sold in my town, that’s crazy that rig came from my small little town!

[@diamond_industries]

Very cool addition to the fleet. Looks like a good running around truck.

[@rickc5197]

Love it! Original '04 owner here, and never had a problem. 305 or 325?

[@James-po5ed]

I have an 04 and the fbc module went out, Chrysler quit making them and there is no aftermarket producer either.

[@GRIZZLYGRIZZGG]

you have the same symptoms i had when i had a injector internally leaking one thing you could try is the pressure relief valve

[@trenthalabicky]

I believe there’s a way to stop it from honking it’s like programmed in

[@marrag1]

This was the reason I started using fluid film lol

[@joshkimball4976]

We run rocker delete here in Michigan.

[@KeiferTune7]

Can you please do a video on how to fix the shift cable to make it actually read park when the truck is in P. When my 07 dodge is in P it reads R on the dash. I have to put it into N to start the truck

[@elihujohnson9234]

Here in Western North Carolina if you see the bottom Rhino-line band at the bottom you don’t even have to poke you just know😂😂 I was hoping the ATF would bring those injectors around but looks like may have to address those!! Hope you and your family have a merry Christmas!!

[@brentmcmahon8188]

We found a Ford diesel these older guys were working on they changed injectors and burnt up starter trying to start so it de there for a long time and I told a guy at work so he went by to ask about the truck and there was a brand new for power stroke sitting in drive and he got the old for big time cheap. After work he asked me if I would look at for him and it had a manual trans so I hooked my log chain it and cracked 3 injectors and pulled him down the road and told him if it tries to star to tap brakes and it did tighten injectors lines and pulled about 100 ft and fired right up and we unhooked chain and the guy and his wife standing in yard when drove by and you could tell by the look on their faces they were upset. Bad thing is 3 months latter the interior was burnt bad roof paint all pealed up just lucky no windows were open . The crazy thing was the old man put a cab radio in truck and power wires were run under rubber around door seal and chewed up wire from door opening and closing and there was no fuse to blow so that’s why it burnt .

[@jimmystewert5217]

Not sure with these older 3rd gens, but the hard start after running could be the crank position sensor, it's a common culprit.

[@VBELTandSON]

I’ll Look into it. It started getting worse. Fires right off with some laughing gas not sure. Hope the injectors come out of it

[@jimmystewert5217]

@@VBELTandSON before pulling your injectors I would slap one of those sensors in there, might solve a lot of issues like your flutter when idling down. It sits right behind the starter if I remember right

[@platinimichel5067]

My 3rd gen 5.9 is sputtering and cutting off. The MAF is cancelled. Has a wire running to the fuse box instead. Could it be the fuse? The turbo solenoid is also cancelled. 6 speed manual

[@jeremyTallen1]

That’s 99% rust free vehicle here in Illinois. If we bought a truck like that here we would be walking around it talking about how little rust is on it lol😅

[@edgarrodriguez971]

I can confirm this 😂 just bought one a couple weeks ago

[@hrantconstructioninc.6518]

How much did you buy the rig for?

[@korbinstudnicki3510]

Can you show us when you install the bottom seat cushion in the truck? I gotta install one in my dodge

[@charlespetersonii6989]

Get some Schaeffer oil in that baby! Nice score on the truck! Just picked up a 03 myself 🤘

[@Mccallmotorworks]

I have an 05 that’s the same color with the same bed liner on the bottom. Still have the regular bed on it though

[@VBELTandSON]

Not a bad color combo at all. I definitely like it

[@BlowinSoot93]

Shes a hot looking unit. What a good platform for a new work horse for the fleet

[@jromem7313]

Not sure if u mentioned the miles. Injector tubes known to loosen some would cause a hard start

[@003fulle]

I saw 435k miles on the dash

[@VBELTandSON]

300k dash was swapped

[@brentmcmahon8188]

Rev it up and see if the motor slows down wired .

[@brentmcmahon8188]

Baldwin makes a 5 micron filter for stock location.

[@brentmcmahon8188]

They make a 5 micro filter by Balwin for you stock location on motor .

[@CPSteveMiller]

There's just something about a crew cab long bed srw 3rd gen. I don't know why these trucks keep attracting me 😅

[@nou8257]

I had a 06 crew long bed manual 4x4 and to this day i regret not fixing that truck

[@bongzonthebeat]

Marvel mystery oil wont hurt either have ran it for years any amount you feel like really in any rig

[@aldoparra6191]

How much did it cost? I’m at the beginning of the video around the engine seize check but nothing.

[@anthonywilson6611]

You don't know what rust is until you've seen a truck on the Saskatchewan prairies. Truck like that out here would be a unicorn lol

[@bronson2585]

Isn’t the mileage stored in the PCM not the gauge? So the miles would be accurate

[@VBELTandSON]

Saw another video where the guy said they are stored in the gauges. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@powerstroke01]

Both in the pcm and the cluster. They don't talk.

[@KenMitchell-kc9nr]

I replaced my gauge cluster & the miles were the same using a brand new cluster.

[@jamesdimarzio3181]

Wow its been a while since I've checked out your content. This was very well put together nice work nice rig!!

[@VBELTandSON]

Thank you!

[@jackgurteeen37]

Looking forward to the refurb of this mate. New York and rotten cab corners go hand in hand i guess. Keep em coming blessings from Shropshire.

[@RedBirdTCG]

owned an 03 before my current 13, of course this is just my personal opinion, but it sounds like you might need an injector or two. when my third gen needed em bad it wouldnt start worth a shit, ESPECIALLY in the cold. But a hard warm start could be due to a leaky injector, might be why it didnt change tone much when you killed cylinder 5. Just my two cents is all.

[@VBELTandSON]

Definitely. But all the injectors felt the same the second round of cut offs

[@RedBirdTCG]

@@VBELTandSON fair enough, definitely easier to tell in person obviously

[@ryanscheppers8470]

the 03-04 cummins will honk if you open your door in reverse sop maybe your door sensor is bad

[@soapybawlz9160]

might be the injector tubes need to be torqued, (why it is having issues starting when hot)

[@VBELTandSON]

I’m thinking the same thing. #6 still looked a little wet after Running

[@mitchellemmett1780]

how much did pay for it? here in Australia they go for 70k to 80k but they are all in better condition than that one as we don't get snow for the most part and so we don't salt our roads.

[@JosephSamsor]

Probably less thank 10k usd.

[@jamesgunnyreed]

I See 2018's with more rust than that here in OHIO! Its sad... I got spoiled living in NC, Ca, Az, and FL for 25 yrs....

[@tjcrim]

That thing never made it to Texas. Virginia DMV down in Roanoke VA, not TX.

[@matthewlong2981]

So you put automatic transmission fluid in the truck and that helped with the injectors?

[@KenMitchell-kc9nr]

In the old days, truckers used ATF as injector cleaner. Can't do it now, as ATF is dyed red. Off-road fuel is also dyed red. DO NOT get caught with ANY red dye in your fuel. They'll get you for tax evasion. Off road fuel isn't taxed.

[@brentmcmahon8188]

We ran atf in our Detroits once in awhile .

[@TooTallharley]

Welcome to my world in the rust belt. And with that little bit of rot that's a clean truck here haha

[@VBELTandSON]

Haha hidden rust buck

[@Kallaus_built]

Id love to see a vid of repairing the seat

[@stevesmith775]

What are the chances that Elmer Nj is my home town lol I probably know the original owner of that truck

[@BrandonBigB956]

What's the fuel pressure looking like when starting hot? At that mileage the injector pump is probably on its way out and pressure is dropping when it's hot and fuel is thin.

[@VBELTandSON]

Pressure looks good. I have another 04 with 338 and it doesn’t have any rail pressure issues. This truck has less miles but neglected.

[@jeremycloud5720]

honks when door is open when in gear my buddys 05 does that

[@zackjordan2396]

Why not swap the crew cab dentside body onto that chassis and g56 swap it?

[@VBELTandSON]

This truck can pay for the dent side :)

[@618Hellbilly]

I'm pretty sure I saw this thing for sale. I was wondering why it was so cheap.

[@josephtamamian7283]

atf has friction additives in it, 2 stroke oil is better for it

[@davidcaron714]

I’d like to know what is considered “cheap” seems like anything under 4-5k for this age is very uncommon.

[@crisvega7588]

You should add a water tank and make it a dedicated ranch fire truck.

[@SamFBM]

wonder if its honking as a backup beep lol

[@fortyfiveseventy]

mine honks in reverse with the drivers door open for some reason

[@erichuntII]

Sam the truck is just slow asf stock I have one I got it for cheap up near sac last spring just needed a tcm