Boundary Break: Paper Mario (N64)

[@Stryder7x]

Nicely done, it makes me very happy to see people still love Paper Mario :)

[@BoundaryBreak]

I heard so much about you once I posted this video lol! I've checked out a few of your videos since then, easily my favorite is probably no surprise to anyone.. The "you shouldnt be reading this" feature

[@PopADoseYo]

Stryder7x You both rock! Thanks for the awesome videos.

[@gamingboyex2998]

Noke0 I definitely agree

[@loneshadowstar9770]

Fancy seeing you here.

[@Chill-ge3uu]

Hey Stryder! Love your videos :)

[@adventuresvdo9434]

Of all the things that are neat about this boundary break, I'm most shocked that the areas are way thinner and more angled than you'd expect, so as to create the illusion of depth while, presumably, allowing the player to move faster forward and backward across the area.

[@LeafRazorStorm]

NOOOOO YOU KILLED THE ILLUSION!!! But really, I just love how they completely crunched the dimensional logic of the game to save polygon space. Really made the most of 42 megabytes.

[@ethanvalencia1500]

It's fascinating, but I can't really tell what's going on lol. I no longer have a concept of space in this game haha

[@Cyber_Akuma]

It's not really a cartridge space issue. 3D geometry itself takes very little space. Textures can take up space but unless they are unique textures than just re-using existing textures also would not add much space. It's to save on processing power. Early 3D systems could not push a lot of polygons, so developers generally tried to make the system only draw the most necessary polygons needed and generally avoided anything extra or would not be seen.

[@SendyTheEndless]

What's weird with this game is that when you move the camera, everything seems to go into reverse perspective! By that, I mean that the vanishing point is near the viewer and things get larger as they move into the distance. This is an art style I'm fascinated by, so this whole episode is such a treat for that reason :) If you do a search for "true reverse perspective" on KZbin, you can see someone's project of rendering an entire scene in this kind of perspective. It's trippy.

[@sethfinley8378]

The reason why the shy guy appears so far under the map is becuase this is the way the game stores models for cutscenes, it keeps the model 128 units under the map and teleports it to it's needed place.

[@randomcatdude]

1000, not 128.

[@obsidianchao]

I think the most fascinating part of this episode is the way all the 3D models are designed to provide a psuedo-isometric view of the environments. Genius way to do that. That's not something most games would bother with; seems like moving the camera is easier, but Nintendo didn't cheap out. I'd love to see Timesplitters 2 next!

[@youcancallmeyourpalal]

Adding the original angle shots with the altered one is a really nice touch. I'm addicted to Boundary Break now, so thanks for that.

[@FightingMario54321]

6:29 did he just shit out the cookbook?

[@sergiogarciaglz.8627]

FightingMario54321 Did you just assumed Gourmet Guy's gender? :^)

[@thatoneidiotxav]

I don't want to be stupid, but... Yes, he did.

[@TheDiamondYoshi909]

FightingMario54321 lol

[@avoided6458]

In super mario 64 the koopa quick will shit out a star your welcome :)

[@RebelliousRobot]

Yep, right outta his butt.

[@Raystarbazzar]

Gourmet guy: Poops out a cook book Mario: *PICKS IT UP*

[@PurpleSnake]

As someone who grew up with the retro gaming experience I must say it's rather refreshing as well as interesting to see these old games with this new type of perspective. Nice work :)

[@BoundaryBreak]

Thank you sir!

[@e-mananimates2274]

As someone who is creating his own Paper Mario animations, this video was both fun and informative! I'll be sure to use some of the tricks I discovered here in my upcoming animations (especially how special effected are created).

[@wooperthebestt]

15:38 Am I THE only person that saw princess peaches floor is a heart?!?

[@ScLuigi]

good eye, m8!

[@usecode]

no

[@unevenalyssa]

I just put a comment about it and then realised yout put this.

[@prysmane3053]

Not JUST a heart. It looks like an Undertale heart.

[@redwingjer]

Julian Perez nope I did

[@Minchken]

Ever had that game that you were so obsessed with as a kid it gave you anxiety and nausea because it was that amazing? That was this game, 2001 fucking amazing time for me, I lived the 90s from 93-03 then 2004 started to throw out the 90s it was a sad day.

[@supersophisticated9943]

12:20 - Oh *WELL*!! 15:30 - Hey, look! Princess Peach's castle floor looks like a heart! COOL! 17:40 - My laptop actually just really lagged, and I couldn't pause the video.

[@adamrhodes9533]

For the record, they aren't sprites; They're models compressed to look like sprites. The same technique is used for Mr. Game and Watch in Smash Bros.

[@niklasfelder28]

Adam Rhodes Not. They are sprites. Why? Try dumping their textures and you will see that their whole body will be dumped. TTYD on the other hand is a bit different.

[@niklasfelder28]

Kid Sheldon When dumped you get their body parts. Changing them is almost impossible. Recoloring is easy, but lets say turning Mario into Luigi. That is impossible because of how their parts are aligned.

[@PlusInsta]

That's what made TTYD and SPM unique. Take Sticker Star for instance: even if the sprites are broken up in multiple pieces, it's made up of stop motion animations which render them useless. Only a small minority of animations are linear, most of them being for bosses and Toads. For the record: Mario only has two frames for walking in Sticker Star, meanwhile the original had enough to make it seamless on the Nintendo 64.

[@Vanix9696]

I'm loving these videos man, you've got me feelin all nostalgic

[@BoundaryBreak]

Thanks dude! keep an eye out for a new episode today. Hopefully it also hits you right in the nostalgia feels : 0

[@superdaveozy7863]

had no idea how weird the areas look at other angles.

[@DullVivid]

Stryder7x squints intensely.

[@BoundaryBreak]

lol yeah ever since i put out this video viewers have made me very aware of the guy. He's doing very very well though, keeps getting his videos featured on Kotaku and stuff.

[@DullVivid]

Shesez He's like, a Paper Mario mathematician if there ever was one? But regardless of the mentioning, I super love your content! It relieves my college brain of obligatory grown-up stuff. : D

[@BoundaryBreak]

right on dude! im really glad youre enjoying it so far!

[@ARentz07]

No Crystal Palace mirror sections? :'(

[@lpsp442]

Great episode, and a good topic for further revisitation too. Areas that occur to me for future exploration include: - Zooming out from Bowser's machine at the finale to see how far down the castle goes, and comparing it to the bridge scene earlier - Huff N. Puff under the clouds before his fight - Some of the spooky mirror business in the Crystal Palace - Spooky shots of the cavernous interiors and fortress exteriors of Bowser's Castle - The emergence of Dry Dry Ruins from the Desert floor - The track taken by the train in Chapter 2, and the other train in Chapter 4 Keep on loving games!

[@GreatlordShadox]

Man, the Field of View is pretty wack with this game. I didn't think it would've warped the perspective that much.

[@BoundaryBreak]

found out it was just the emulator. It doesnt do this if i used the inferior camera on the Nemu64

[@GreatlordShadox]

Hm. Any idea as to why that is? I'm not well-versed in coding, much less rendering, but I really wouldn't think that it would render like that without the game explicitly telling it to.

[@BoundaryBreak]

i tried asking a help forum but i didnt really get any concrete answers or any indication that theyd want to fix it.

[@GreatlordShadox]

What can ya do, eh? At least with Paper Mario it isn't as big of a deal since so much of it is simple geometry and flat sprites, but I can't imagine if the camera was really bad with a game like Shadows of the Empire or Donkey Kong 64 that relies much more on models. (And no, I wasn't implying I wanted you to do videos on those. Sure, it'd be interesting, especially Shadows of the Empire, but they were just the first model-heavy N64 games I thought of)

[@evilwalrus9527]

I just about died when the Lil Oink part came up. I requested that haha. Should of known it would of been in the video when you liked the tweet :) Thanks!

[@BoundaryBreak]

Of course! love taking requests. Thanks for submitting it!

[@LegendOfGroose]

Shesez, I've been watching since Melee's episode and I'm so happy that your video quality is improving so much episode by episode, and you're still keeping it fresh with a great positive attitude. Love ya, man. Hype for Banjo Kazooie!

[@BoundaryBreak]

Thanks for sticking by me dude!

[@LazyTomato]

"...But there's nobody in there. Oh, _well_." oh you

[@xSuperFryx]

Odd how when you rotate the camera in this game the perspective gets all weird, when it wasn't an issue at all in TTYD. Also still hoping for a Kirby Return to Dreamland episode. Lots and lots of fully 3d backgrounds with cool structures and landscapes that you don't get a good look at. There's also a big futuristic city at one point with tons of weird paths and broken bridges spread about.

[@ryanmurphy9068]

Lol at the "subtle" OoT advert. Great episode as always. I love the Paper Mario series:)

[@BoundaryBreak]

in all honestly, i brought ZU back just for the laughs. but i couldnt think of a decent dialogue exchange that didnt mention the zelda episode. glad you liked the episode man!

[@MystLunarabne]

11:12 I'm more surprised by that Thwomp chillin' in the top right corner than anything the Lava Piranha was doing.

[@FlintDragoon]

some of the off-screen characters such as peach and twink are there for the purpose of cut-scenes/events. so when the event is trigger the game draws them out of the off-screen space and puts them on screen. interesting way to store/save memory.

[@amylee9092]

That Star Spirit rescue scene with the particle effect looks AMAZING upscaled to 1080p with the Project64 emulator.

[@NightFlyStudio]

Man, looking back at Paper Mario, it still is very visually appealing today. And all of the diverse characters give the game such a nice charm. I wish Nintendo would just ignore Miyamoto in regards to Paper Mario and go back to the way things used to be.

[@richiegargonzola]

Great job Shesez! Each upload has been so interesting and fun to watch. At this point it doesn't even matter what game you feature. If it's a Boundary Break episode then I know it will be good.

[@BoundaryBreak]

Thanks man. I wish i had an entire audiance with an open mind like yours. The underdogs like the F-Zero GX episodemay have actually gotten some love if it were the case lol

[@MystLunarabne]

15:37 It's actually really interesting that the floor is in the shape of a heart, I never noticed that before.

[@JohnSegway-RainingLamppost]

Wow that was neat to see, floating tied up Peach was a bit spooky and for a second I wasn't sure what to think about the sprite of her off to the left of Bowser... then I realised it was the star behind her and it wasn't showing her wrist moving... :T

[@starwars551]

Awesome work. Makes my day seeing a new boundary break episode in my inbox.

[@BoundaryBreak]

Comments like this the series worth all the effort. very happy to make your day a little better

[@nightlightsparkle4919]

Awww~! I forgot how adorable that ending music is. And now that I've heard it again, I realize it's basically a reprise of the opening song you hear when you start up the game.

[@dannykazari]

The Zelda Dungeon joke actually made me chuckle, good one

[@BoundaryBreak]

hahaha thank you very much. Yeah the ZU crew are good sports

[@LoneAlchemist]

I think in that final scene where peach is hanging in the air was probably meant for a small cutscene where probably bowser taunts mario by dangling her as he runs up the tower. i can imagine why i may have been removed.

[@Gungho73]

What's interesting about that opening bit on Parakarry is how he stays up top. Why its interesting is often times the unused assets are left 1000 blocks or in-game mathematical equivalent (I'm not sure the term here this early in the morning). So for example, the Shy Guy that appears outside Mario's house can still be found way underneath the map at different points other then when he's in use for the plot. So why doesn't he just disappear below the earth for that scene end then? Is it because his placement then originates in his later partner acquisition appearance? That's what im curious about.

[@niiinjaaaaa]

Just discovered your channel and I really enjoy your videos. Keep it up!

[@BoundaryBreak]

Thanks dude!

[@babybuussj4]

Maybe it's the art style, or the camera, but breaking the boundaries of this game is very disorienting, far more so then the other videos I've seen. Really like your stuff. Just discovered you and Stryder7x today, and I'm really liking both of your works. Keep up the good work guys. Also that little bit with the Zelda guys. Magnificent.

[@stumpy412]

did anyone else notice all the enemies are just flat textures? thats crazy!

[@PucciPuppy]

Ethan Dodson well it is PAPER Mario ;)

[@stumpy412]

PucciPuppy good point

[@dillon1012]

the likely reason for the whole deconstruction sequence not being shown is the graphical limitations of the n64. the n64 can process about 160,000 polygons a second. id estimate the amount of polygons in the sequence is about 1-2k. at 60 fps this is 60-120000. Adding in Paper Marios very high res textures (for the console) it would definitely push the processors limits.

[@baconparty5586]

this game has a REALLY strange camera.honestly i'm not really suprised it's paper game XD

[@maximillianlylat1589]

Bacon Party its possibility to save as much space of possible because n64 cant handle a fully rendered 3d rpg game

[@DJN1GHTT3RR0R]

Great episode but I would've been curious to see a full shot of the parade at the end, mostly to see if everything is already loaded

[@ZanielWalker]

twink was doing something nasty in that 1st cut scene

[@Punchi7]

i like your humor and style of videos :) You earned yourself a new follower bro keep up the good work, i think you deserve way more views

[@Punchi7]

*sry for bad english :D

[@BoundaryBreak]

Wow thanks a lot man!

[@Punchi7]

No thank you for making quality content and investing so much of your free time despite the fact that you can't make a living out of it with your 8k followers

[@NotebookTheCat]

I always figured the whale crunched that boat in two, I didn't realize you couldn't actually tell without panning down ^.^;

[@browncoatkevin]

Boundary Break on Xenoblade Chronicles would be interesting in a few scenes - the ending has some neat unused things for sure, and certain characters are fully modeled for cutscenes they barely show up in.

[@Sprinkleshitz]

At 6:55 I don't think you even realized that the lit up texture of the start block is stored on the back.🙀🙀🙀🙀

[@NovaCrackers]

You should do Pokémon Snap

[@Aukejorrit]

that's a great idea

[@NiNGalaxU2]

He already did a video on that where he explained why it's actually impossible for him to do an episode on Pokémon Snap.

[@NovaCrackers]

NiNGalaxU Oh, bummer.

[@Axewhipe]

wy thou

[@ZipplyZane]

What video?

[@pokedude583]

I should really finish that game some time... I've gotten to just before Sushie joins. So close to the end, yet so far. But I digress, great video, as per usual. I know nothing about either Time Splitters or Viewtiful Joe, so I shan't vote on it, but I will definitely watch it either way.

[@orderlychaos314]

Did anybody else notice that at the start of the game, Mario's house says MARIO, but at the end of the game, it says MARIO'S. Isn't it weird that MARIO would just randomly change what is on the front of his house even when he never goes there in his journey?

[@zenthebowshootingsergal8572]

every unused charater will get teleported up to where its bepost to be when needed and down 100+ units below the orign when not needed

[@5002seven]

8:00 "Oh my god, is that a chicken?!"

[@zephyrbread]

_You deserve a lot more subscribers._ _Like, at least a million._

[@BoundaryBreak]

ah damn.. thanks dude :)

[@zephyrbread]

_You're welcome. ^^_

[@MegaDudeman21]

i agree 1 Million %!!

[@vio7336]

yea he should get so many more

[@ethanvalencia1500]

You're awesome man. Great content, I love your work and commentary!

[@nosequien9097]

I literally love your videos, they bring me back to my childhood 😭

[@Gungho73]

I wonder, when you hit the mega blocks for the power up boosts for your partners, if the ball of light looks much different.

[@Jetblast01]

11:44 Bowser's Inside Story cut content after eating something spicy...can't go out THAT way.

[@Aukejorrit]

it's here! it's glorious! it's all i wanted from this episode and more!!!! thanks man, you did the games i really wanted and i love them

[@BoundaryBreak]

I'm glad i could get to all of them!

[@Aukejorrit]

+Shesez i have a new request actually. it might be somewhat random but is it possible to do a call of duty modern warfare game? otherwise, i'd love to see medal of honor rising sun. loving the series and my friends are too. brilliant concept!

[@GODOFAWSOMENESS1]

11:35 looks like a stove and chimney.

[@SunburnedMeatloaf]

I love this game

[@joshuacruzgarza64]

the ending song ive heard it somewhere, cant remember but i think it was like a jumpscare video or scary video.

[@edfreak9001]

Maybe you've done it already (I'm binging on your videos thanks to youtube suggestions, subbed, good stuff mate) but can you try Kirby 64? One special thing i'd like to know if there's any difference using freelook in the N64 game or the game in Kirby's Dream Collection. I only ask because Dolphin's freelook makes it look really strange in perspective so I wonder if it's anything to do with that version or if it's just N64 games really not likely freelook.

[@FerralVideo]

The weird stretching of models is actually an artifact of the N64's rendering engine. The math needed to make textures and models continue to look right at differing angles is computationally expensive for such early hardware. Such, the system will only perform that math for deliberate, programmed-in camera movements. Any 3D N64 game that you perform a camera break on and change the views will experience this distortion, as the system's not performing any compensation for that angle anymore. The original Playstation can only perform these operations at a relatively coarse resolution. This is why polygons seem to jitter and vibrate during camera pan operations. It also can't compensate textures in hardware, causing them to either look weird (when done in software), or WEIRD (when not done at all). In newer games, e.g. PC or Gamecube, that compensation is built into the camera code itself, and is performed no matter what angle you look at the scene from.

[@JeremyBX]

4:20 FP: 4/20 Too much blaze confirmed.

[@BoundaryBreak]

This comment is amazingly perceptive

[@stevegamer68]

If you hop on to that Star Ship there, you still don't have the Star Beam/Peach Beam to beat Bowser.

[@KeepAnimeDegenerate]

Star Haven? I heard it was a haven for stars... I wonder how they came up with the name for that place?

[@bdt7468]

I find it interesting how every time peach's vulnerable butt gets saved she throws a party, BUT parties are always the gateway to bowser kidnapping her

[@hahaisntitfunny5579]

This is with dolphin anyone can do this,he's just pressing shift and moving,but it's actually pretty good editing though.

[@Marshcar]

8:50 What's this from?

[@nawhz6292]

I learned a lot about how games are made from watching these videos. Thank you so much.

[@tatlxtael2303]

Kinda wish the shooting star summithad gotten a wide pan shot just cause it’s such a pretty area in the game

[@Shadow_of_Blake]

Boundary Break series would have to be the best thing i watched in a long time.

[@CerealBox64]

So many hidden objects! Surely this is a record for a Boundary Break game?

[@sfc0450]

Huh, I never even noticed that was Jr Troopa in the audience during quizzes. He really is obsessed with Mario, isn't he?

[@Revegelance]

I'd be interested to see Super Paper Mario. I wanna know if the level's architecture stays 3D when you go into 2D mode.

[@OliGaming-d1u]

The Tubba Bubbla chapter is also my favorite! I still have his theme in my head to this day.

[@BoundaryBreak]

It was just amazing to me because people spoke of tubba blubba like legend the entire chapter. and then when you finally meet him, he is literally invincible so you have no option but to run! Very clever, very interractive. Its chapters like that which make me a fan of video games

[@emigoldber]

Did my eyes just oof on the first scene?? Great job btw 👍👍👍

[@MrGamerTH]

Awesome job! I've been waiting for you to play this one in particular

[@tjeerdtrekkie1030]

Big shy guy poops a cooking book.... And Mario picks it up like its nothing strange..... Mario better washes his hands after that...

[@op-nl7dj]

You seem to have so much fun making these

[@BoundaryBreak]

Oh absolutely :)

[@maxicangreg]

" In october, we're gonna use whatever guys you guys " - Shesez

[@wallypure6835]

11:51 It's the dekoodle tree. Deku + doodle. It's adorable.

[@dillpickle869]

How could you skip over shiver mountain and the crystal palace? There are huge areas with big load zones that ive always wanted to see...

[@roddydykes7053]

The most played non Rareware game by me, very awesome to see it picked apart, Stryder also does an amazing job of this

[@QuinGracia]

7:50 Princess Peach... What are you doing with that metal rod...

[@hethrham123]

when you do a mario game I always expect to hear you say "Did you know?"

[@BoundaryBreak]

Did you know?

[@zachfernandez92]

Shesez I think he means Did you know gaming

[@culturehub2628]

zachfernandez92 yeah he's referencing that channel lol

[@Aernoth1]

These perspective tricks this game uses are screwing with my head

[@dakotamarkow564]

This series is awesome, keep it up man.

[@thomasburline4130]

How come you didn't seem as excited at the end as you normally are? I loved this episode. It genuinely made me laugh. They all do but this one was one of the best, in my opinion. On a side note, would you ever consider doing a legacy of Kain game? They were a third person exploration/action game that spanned from the ps1 to ps2 days. Maybe they're worth a look. Every game in the series has a huge amount of deleted content but I have no idea if any of them would be good games to cover. Love your videos. They're always interesting.

[@BoundaryBreak]

For sure dude! And yeah when i listened to my episode afterwords i felt the same way about the excitement. I honestly dont have an answer to that! Maybe it was because i was burnt out after powering through the entire game to get the episode out within 2 weeks. But i can honestly say i just didnt notice while doing my commentary!

[@RockGeek00]

neat i didn't know most of the game used forced camera perspective and angled distorted background objects to get the view right.

[@shaddyFoofer]

found this channel because of A+ Start, pretty good channel

[@christhepropcollector496]

11:36 (lenny face goes here)

[@kevinr.9733]

RE: The sky background Oh, good, that's a soft-serve ice cream cone. For a second it looked like something else.

Why is the camera so wonky on this game?

[@jakethemariofan2442]

It's not meant to be moved around

Jake The Mario Fan, neither in Super Mario 64, Super Mario Sunshine, Super Mario Galaxy, Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door, the Mario Kart series, etc. But this is the only game that has a wonky camera when moved.

[@loneshadowstar9770]

Arturo Torres Sánchez Except those games also allow you to adjust the camera, which the developers never intended to be implemented in Paper Mario.

Notice I also listed Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door, which definitely doesn't let you move the camera in game.

[@jakethemariofan2442]

+Arturo Torres Sánchez That's one game out of all of them you listed.

[@jeremiahmason3695]

One of my time favorite games

[@zachfernandez92]

Good job. Try Paper Mario Color Splash for boundary break. It is a great game.

[@nobletohru]

zachfernandez92 he can't. his emulator (dolphin) can't load Wii u games

[@metalboozyjupiter6474]

HEHEHE I'M A SUPAHSTAR ROBOBOT he did splatoon though!:)

[@SiIverLeaf]

I still wonder... where does Mario goes when he runs from a battle