RIG TOUR & REVIEW | The Project M by Four Wheel Campers

[@BoundForNowhere]

Thanks everyone for all the great tips for keeping dust out! Hopefully anyone looking for an answer to this problem can glean some information from you guys. We'd also like to mention after talking with the FWC team that they are planning to release a modular system to customize and build out Project Ms in the future. The goal for that is some time in 2022. While that date is pretty far off and vague it's exciting to know that they are planning expansions to this platform.

[@collettsonthemove7497]

Excited about the modular system!

[@thrillhunter9897]

buy a tailgate seal i get almost no dust.

[@vincenttownrow3846]

Looks like a very nice system. The dust problem is primarily a truck bed problem. There are many seams, additional holes etc. We resolved the issue first by installing a rubber seal around the tailgate then caulking the seams in the bottom, taping over the additional holes and the gap under the lip. We also sealed the joint between the cap we used and the truck bed with a strip of Butyl Rubber. After two weeks on dirt roads no dust in the back. A real game changer

[@rifleman1873]

The project M looks like a great option. I really like the fact that it minimizes weight as much as possible while still giving a place to sleep. Also, you are such a great spokesperson for them. I can understand why they chose you and Owen to review it. Most importantly, you keep it real. It is easy to tell when someone is trying to sugar coat something, and I don’t trust that. Good review!!

[@peterjones7630]

Thanks so much for the review. I’ve been following Four Wheel Camper’s progress on the Model M for awhile and am really excited with what they’ve done and the direction they’re taking this. I’m 71 and have a 2019 Fleet with most of the “bells & whistles” that are offered and absolutely love it- a retiree’s dream! BUT if I were 25 the Model M would be a dream come true to begin an overlanding adventure. ( forwarded your review to my 33 yr old nephew in Edwards, CO) You and Owen have been defining the spirit of “overlanding”- thank you! Don’t stop!!

[@blackoutt_adv]

This is great walk through and makes me want a Project M, except for that dust! Our tip would be to use some of the ESI products that we used to keep our truck bed with cap clean and dust free. (Not associated with ESI in any way, just products that work!) ESI Ultimate tailgate seal comes with great instructions for various models to get the tailgate air tight. Then various types of ESI bed rail seals are available depending on cap weight and bulkhead gaps, even comes with some sort of putty to level off the larger/odd gaps often found at corners. Finally there's still some various small bed track bolt holes and plugs/caps that aren't sealed, plus nice gaps where the bed sides meet the front bulkhead in our Tundra. We filled those with some clear silicone which may need to be touched up over the years but for now our bed is a clean and dry sleeping area!

[@janeinthecity1]

This answered a huge question for me, yay! We have a drawer system from Truck Vault and wondered if we could still utilize a 4WC Project M; I'm convinced we can after watching this video. Right now we have a '21 Tacoma Sport Long Bed with a SnugTop Hi-Liner cap; sleeping in it is so great but sitting or chilling is not possible. We have a full BedRug bed-liner in the bed and the same material lines the topper which helps with dust. I'm so stoked to ponder a Project M!!!

[@peterjones7630]

Great review! I’ve been following Four Wheel Camper’ progress on this project and have been pretty excited about the direction they’ve taken it. I’m 71 and have the Fleet- with all of the “bells and whistles”- a retiree’s dream. BUT if I were 25 the Project M would be the answer to the start of a lifetime of overlanding adventure. Thank you so much for your succinct review!! I’ve forwarded it to my 33 year old nephew in Edwards, Co!😎

[@jessebutler9352]

This would be a handy setup with the new f150s built in generator. It would all be accessible from inside the camper.

[@mattmycko4127]

Exactly what I am thinking. My only concern would be the truck starting up at night or going to the cab to turn it off every night. Wish Ford would integrate starting and stopping the generator from their app!

[@Snoqmike]

I just bought a small generator for my Project M, but I have no fridge nor second battery

[@gnac1]

We had a similar dust problem when offroading with a tonneau top. The airflow with the top on would cause road dust to get sucked up into the bed. The solution I found was to put a used bicycle tube along the bottom of the tailgate before closing it. This kept the dust from getting sucked up into the bed from under the tailgate. Later, I found adhesive weather stripping you can buy for just this purpose. It might not keep out all dust, but it dramatically reduced the amount of dust getting pulled into the bed. Note that I cut the tube so that it was one long piece instead of a loop.

[@isaacturnerit]

Great video wasn’t even considering a project m until this one! Gonna check out a hawk too

[@TruckHouseLife]

Almost bought a 4 Wheel Camper, but then built the truck house instead lol. Leaving AK mid-August to head south, 2 months of overlanding, whitewater, festivals, and whatever. I'm throwing a Truck House Life Overland Rally near Durango/Silverton Colorado in early September before Overland Expo West. Maybe see you guys out there:)

[@drcav_photo]

Truck with camper shell here, we put a Bedrug that extends over to the tailgate in one piece, and I put in a seal kit from Amazon to help seal the tailgate. The real trick is figuring out how to seal the junction of the tailgate, the camper shell side, and the camper shell back window. Still haven’t figured that one out.

[@blackoutt_adv]

We used some left over short strips of ESI ultimate tailgate seal in this area, about 4" long (about the thickness of the tailgate), stuck into that camper shell/bed side corner. When the tailgate closes it seals that pesky area up well.

[@bobw9297]

good job , yes there is a pickup tail gate seal that you can order plus a lot of silicon for the rest , I am from Canada and I got my seal at Canadian tire , but I am sure you could order one someplace in the USA

[@flyfishforcarp]

Thanks for the review. Glad to see they've re-designed the rear door. We've had our "M" for 10 months and we love it. I've never had that amount of dust in ours as I sealed our tailgate and any large gaps before I headed out on any dirt roads. It's tough to keep all the dust out but I think I've cut about 95% of it. Thanks again!

[@denahom]

Hi Chris. Can you now lock the M from the inside? And how did you seal the tailgate for dust? TIA.

[@stevecoscia]

I own the OVRLND camper (similar to project M, but more customizable and more affordable). The dust is a real issue. Experience has taught me that the tailgate is the major culprit. I now use foam to insulate the tailgate gaps. I bought a $20 exercise mat from Walmart and cut it into dust insulkation strips. It's better now, not perfect but much better.

[@pmwilliams123]

Suggestion for a mod to improve longevity of those channel mounts on the outside: It looks like there is a bit of rotational force where your jerry cans are mounted, as the track is mounted in a single horizontal plane, and as you drive the dynamic force down then creates a rotational force. Notice how the top of the jerry can is farther away from the sidewall than the bottom. Since you have an unused section of channel track above the cans, you could distribute the simple downforce load AND the rotational load across both channels by running a metal strap between the channel tracks and then mount the jerry can center bolt to the metal strap just above the lower channel.

[@haydenrice9485]

I have a fitted bedrug in my ARE cap. The rug had helped with the dust and insulation. Definitely going to try some of the other dust proofing mentioned in these comments.

[@bakerfamilyoverland996]

Four Wheel Campers is smart for offering the Project M. There is definitely a market for this and yes I agree that there must be a solution for the dust getting in.

[@darrenanderson7969]

I'd have wussed out and spent a fortune on the Decked system, then regretted it. Great work!

[@lyndsymikaela3386]

I love the outtakes so much.

[@BoundForNowhere]

Hahah thanks I like them too, they are an accurate depiction of who I am

[@CarloRitschl]

i think what a lot of people in the comment thread don't know/realize about this camper is the big benefit that was never mentioned is the weight. this starts at 352 lbs for a midsize truck. Something like a stock tacoma has pretty low weight limit (around 1K lbs if i remember correctly), so add in a couple people, a dog, some camp gear, water... and you are quickly at that limit. Just like anything, there is a way of camping for everyone :)

[@uttamgala7186]

Solution for the dust: either silicone seal the corners of the box or bed rug makes a nice carpet that covers the whole inside of the box!

[@wrxtc82]

Thanks for this in depth review! Really helped to hear the things you’ve experienced and the customizations you’d make.

[@BoundForNowhere]

Yeah for sure our brains automatically go to that place 😘

[@scottthejeepguy7499]

Makes me wanna buy one RIGHT NOW, thanks for sharing

[@herdingdog1]

I am considering this unit. Using just a Leer canopy right now. I installed a Bed Rug and it definitely keeps the dust out of my rig.

[@uttamgala7186]

Fantastic review! To the point. I can’t wait until it’s time for me to go pop up tent shopping.

[@timgoodsell4053]

I just ordered one yesterday so your video is really timely. Thanks!

[@aztrails1]

Excellent very thorough review thank you

[@setsailatnoon]

Thanks, I've only recently come upon your channel (been busy homesteading on our 50 acres)...a couple of suggestions I have made to 4 Wheel Campers is to have the option of European style RV windows, which are insulated and can be opened during rainstorms, etc. I would replace the AGM battery with an EcoFlow Duramax power station (so we could also use it here on our off grid homestead)...We've traveled all over North America for many decades, we're now 73 (me) and 67 (her), and have traveled in VW synchros, and even old split window VW Westies...we've traveled in two different very small motorhomes and even in the back of a 1980 Chevy Luv diesel (when diesel was 6 US cents per litre in Mexico)...I love our Toyota Tacoma and its abilities...so we may sell our tear drop and order one of these campers. Thanks for the review, I love your channel.

[@collettsonthemove7497]

So intriguing! So many ideas to build out the interior just a bit. Thanks for the tour!~ carol

[@Snoqmike]

I installed my Project M on a 1/2 ton RAM with an eight foot bed. Mule did the install and they said that they usually install on 3/4 tons. The 465 lb weight is no problem for the 1/2 ton without suspension mods. Being in the northwest I made sure the install was water tight.

[@BoundForNowhere]

Thats amazing when you dont have to do all those mods right out the gate! Have a blast! I think that sounds like such a fun rig!

[@MrPoseidonSays]

Very nicely done! I'm already been decided. This was just a good review to add on to my decision. Thanks

[@J.Young808]

I’d put a BedRug in my bed so that I’d have that layer of insulation and to help keep dust out. Put a large water tank cross ways by the cab and build out a kitchen (on the opposite side of gas tank) and an opposing storage bench/sleep platform (for windy nights).

[@checkeredflagfilms]

downside for me would be the dirt dust that is clearly visible inundating cloths, electronic and every nook and cranny. think I would go with a hawk or some other all enclosed living space camper with a few more creature comforts. plus I'd want to off load the camper, set it aside, so I could utilize the truck for everyday use as a normal truck would be for hauling stuff, running errands and not have to be burdened by lugging a camper here and there.

[@NoMansOverland]

We used to use a strip of foam stuffed in the tailgate cracks. It was kind of unwieldy but it kept the dust out during the day and the cold air out at night.

[@lillypatience]

I’m excited for the next couple of videos! I live so close to FWC I should make the time to visit.

[@BoundForNowhere]

It’s an awesome place and we are excited too!

[@chelseab5467]

Thank you that was really interesting to watch.

[@davidsquibb456]

The hatch actually is lockable from the inside. There's a little red tab on the driver's side of hatch window.

[@nomadchad8243]

A ram air intake on the forward fan would positively pressurize the space to help keep dust from being sucked in by the negative pressure being formed behind the vehicle. removable Winter window silicone caulk would be a good solution for the gaps.

[@101jeepz]

I wish FWC offered a "Barn Door" option! I want to be able to stand on the tailgate upright.

[@TruckCamper]

Nice work! I'm glad you mentioned some of the issues too... dust is a challenge for sure!

[@BoundForNowhere]

It was in our taco too so we are no stranger to it however I feel like there is a way for it to better than it was in this truck... but again there were gaps in the bed everrrrrryyyy where

[@TruckCamper]

@@BoundForNowhere Yeah. Lots of holes to fill in. It's an interesting concept but room for improvement for sure. Thanks for sharing

[@stevebrown4734]

I had not considered dust being an issue. I have a tonneau cover on my truck bed and dust gets in there so I should have known, lol.

[@simpleinstinct]

For the dust, go to a hardware store and buy weather stripping. I put it around my Tailgate and other places. Most weather stripping has an adhesive back. Another way to manage the dust is positive air pressure. If you can find a way to have an air filter over the ceiling fan, have the fan bring air in. If I remember correctly, I think Patriot Campers does this. It might be MITS Alloy....

[@DanDannyDanielleBob]

I feel like if they sewed gasketed zippered bulkhead separating the bed area you could zip it up for storage and keep the dust out of the bed. Also if they had window designs more like a leer topper you could access the platforms and anything secured there from the outside. I am sure they will do a setup with a decked system at some point

[@gregorycurry1827]

dust, yes, and any opening in the shell provides access points for lil critters, too. gotta seal 'em all.

[@overblanding7189]

A KZbin ad came on right before the Mac outtakes (my favs). I had to wait through 9 painful seconds.

[@daveholte7658]

Well done video Excellent communication I am thinking the same model for my type of travels and adventure I too am seeing some issues that need to be addressed as you mentioned Hopefully the manufacturer listens? Do you know or how a bug screen could be applied for that very large door I need to be able lock when inside for the night Also on the side shelves

[@ericcarawan1308]

Install a "Bed Rug". The cracks in the bed of a truck are there for a reason, for drainage. Installing a "Bed Rug" and sealing the tailgate should solve your problem with dust. As a bonus, you will have a very durable cushy carpet floor and good insulation. I would get the one that goes up to the bed rails to get the full benefit of the insulation factor. They usually run around $500 but are well worth it, especially for this application.

[@SilentWatcher594]

Your dust problem comes from the tailgate seal (or lack of)...age old issue. A foam seal kit is available for all trucks to minimize the problem. Happy trails!!

[@stout_tossme7541]

I love this idea and your thoughts on it. The little platforms, I would build cabinets on the platforms, subfloor storage, and insulated panels for the truck bed.

[@mickmcginnis9306]

Was considering one of these, the dust is a deal breaker. Probably better off with a shell model.

[@stevebrown4734]

The Project M is attractive to me for the weight savings. Any slide in camper will require rear suspension upgrade (airbags, typically) to handle the extra weight. Adds complexity and cost. But a used shell model will rival the M in price I am sure.

[@bubbascoutdog]

GREAT review! You have convinced me NOT to get an M-project and go with a regular enclosed camper with REAL lockable doors and SEALED from all the dust and other crap!

[@rong9336]

I ordered my Project M, is due in Sept. The newer models do lock from the inside now. As for dust, there are rubber seals that will keep out almost all dust. Just Google truck bed seals. Can't wait to pick it up.

[@BoundForNowhere]

You are in for a real treat! I think you are getting a really cool rig! I love how light they are, feels like you can go anywhere with them!

[@offtrackfamily]

Thanks for this honest tour and review :)

[@57NUPE]

Mac and Owen!!! Thanks so much for this video!!! I’ve been going back and forth on purchasing either this or the FWC Shell slide in and your opinions have a lot of weight due to the amount of time you spend overlanding!!! The dust would kill me, but more than that, not having a screen door or being able to lock yourself from the inside moved me away from the topper and to the FWC shell. My only concern with the shell is can I take down those “boxes” in the shell and DYI my own shelving system and couch/dining area?? Can’t wait for the slide in video!! Thanks again!!!

[@indianahoosier5794]

When I had a pick up with a Leer cap on it... I used to lay down a foam tape on the gunnels of the bed before clamping the cap down. That seemed to keep most of the moisture or dust out of the bed. That is a cap not a camper but I would think they would work the same.

[@STACYBURK]

Will a Project M even fit on the Jeep Gladiator? How hard is it to get a Project M in Arizona?

[@BoundForNowhere]

They do make them for Jeep Gladiators. Depending on where you are in Arizona your closest dealer will probably be in southern California or Utah.

[@Jacobbunt]

this thing looks awesome! if I had the money I would definitely get one of these. great vid

[@BoundForNowhere]

Thank you so much! Yeah the wait is also currently kinda long on these at the moment

[@Jacobbunt]

@@BoundForNowhere yeah I can imagine. if I wasn't a broke college kid id probably be on that list lol. but ill probably design and build a pop top for my rig eventually. should probably graduate first tho

[@joesalemi2414]

Are those 13” shelves mandatory? They seem like a real limiting factor as they are too high to build a bench on and too narrow to use as a bench or alternative sleep platform for top down use.

[@ovrlxnd]

I wonder if you could put together a filtered fan that keeps positive pressure inside the truck bed while driving?

[@GrinchWSLG]

Opening the slider hatch behind the cab should create a positive pressure in the camper and help with the dust. It helps with my AT Overland Summit.

[@BoundForNowhere]

WHAT?! That is the coolest solution ever!

[@caseycook738]

A lot of those Australian campers and trailers use positive pressure to keep out the dust. I think they use a special port to aid in this.

[@michaelmckeag960]

I was wondering about dust sealing and you answered my concern by shooting your video after two weeks of travel off pavement; exactly the same condition I experience under a simple cap. I was hoping Fourwheel had developed a solution, but of course their control of the problem stops where the camper mates to the truck bed. That joint needs to be water and dust tight. The tailgate is probably a significant dust leak. In another Project M review the owner added a tailgate gasket. I will be on the lookout for effective dust control solutions before committing to a Project M. I’d rather pitch a tent than camp in a dust bin.

[@dkhahs27]

Great review. Did you by chance get a measurement of the overall height of the rig?

[@margaretlyle1070]

Great Vid... dumb question... do you cook inside?

[@philiptarnaski1667]

Nice 👍 can’t wait to see the upcoming videos Thanks.

[@rd4660]

Great idea for the budget minded folks.

[@usmcdoc2512]

It would be nice if they made a full hatch. Remove the tail gate and extend the hatch down till it sits flush.

[@johneskrich362]

Showing some sponsor Love. This looks to be a Great series, Thanks!

[@joesalemi2414]

Use a pice of molding to block the open truck bed corners. There are a lot of options.

[@kjames8299]

Excellent review.

[@uconnapharm]

re: the two rear hatch latches . Is it possible that while you are sleeping inside the Topper ; someone outside could walk past the rear hatch and push on the two latches and lock you inside ? Also , when you go inside to sleep , do you have the ability to lock the rear hatch from inside for security purposes ?

[@amandanicole3999]

i thought you got a new house for a second 😂

[@BoundForNowhere]

Ha nah! Roxanne isn't going anywhere anytime soon!

[@davidkozelsky]

Thanks for sharing!

[@juanpinto5743]

Looks like a nice setup. There’s weatherstripping that helps with the air gaps to keep dust out. Do you know if the truck has a 5.5 ft or 6.5 ft bed?

[@BoundForNowhere]

This one had a 6.5ft bed and there are liners that I found after recording this that I think that would be a great solution

[@murdiesel]

Seems like you have done this before! Awesome presentation as always!

[@basiliogrant]

With the Ford F150 lightning this will be super, plug a heat, electric stove etc, run fan in summer and even a mini air conditioner

[@darylmiller8911]

If you don't have them already wheel well liners help reduce the dust in the bed.

[@giuliom8520]

I'm a new subscriber. You guys are livin' large!

[@daveholte7658]

Sorry hit the button before done On the side shelves which are great but would like to see if I can break them up on folding them? As I have a aux 40 gal fuel tank that I could go thru driver window and refuel but need to remove or fold up to gain access Wished they could do a different small size door on the topper affordable model Thanks for a fantastic video

[@thim8009]

Gorilla tape and tailgate seal does wonders for me with dust

[@EdHoyer]

Dust? Simply get a tailgate dust sealing system...cheap and easy...no more dust! Get the "ESI ROK BLOCK UTV Tailgate Gap Cover for Utility Vehicles" (absolute best) in Canada is was only $61 all in, plus the side seal strips are $30! Hope thiis helps!

[@yepme6484]

I like the platform, I have a family of 4, so I would use the platform for bunks to sleep on

[@thomasdipaolo2349]

As for the dust getting inside, in my experience, most os from the tailgate itself. Using rubber weather stripping similar to the automotve oem seals around the door worka best

[@Ritterkritterz]

No one shows how they are getting in the camper on any M model videos like its a secret, must be difficult to get in. Thanks for your video and feedback. Maybe for dust, they can make a large foam diaphram that you place on top of the rim of the truck and then seat the truck camper on top of that seal.

[@robertsun8922]

Thanks for the video. Looking to do something similar but curious if you know whether the truck has stock suspension or has added a lift kit or upgraded suspension. Definitely want to keep it under 1K lbs with buildout and wet weight. My thoughts on the dust would be to install some zip up fabric barrier for the back tailgate and maybe a mesh screen with a magnetic strip for ease of access and keep the bugs out.

[@BoundForNowhere]

So I think that a truck bead liner would do this thing wonders and no suspension upgrades. As it was the project M weighed about 400lbs

[@robertsun8922]

Thank you. Looking forward to seeing many more happy adventures from you guys!

[@michaelharris1455]

Hey guys, really nice video. I was really excited watching this, but afterwards, when I saw the price point, I lost all interest. Absolutely absurd. (Please note, I'm dissappointed in 4wc, not you guys, you're just sharing something that could have great potential, if the folks that built them would be ALOT more realistic in pricing these.) Always great to see you guys, look forward to more videos.

[@BoundForNowhere]

Honestly I agree with you however we have spoken in depth with them about this and what it comes down to is the high cost of the materials they use. A lot of it is so heavily taxed that they have to ask what they do to afford the materials. As an owner, albeit of a completely different model, I can attest to the care that is taken in making these campers. As an owner they take care of their customers long after the camper is purchased and if you make it to an event they host you in their special camp area. But I hear you and I feel you as a person who still has a loan out on our camper. 😘

[@rschreck876]

@@BoundForNowhere What materials? Some windows and some aluminum?

[@kamikazekunze]

Doesn’t let the bugs in but damn it sure lets the dust in…..😂

[@nealamesbury1480]

Watch videos on sealing the truck bed

[@davidklenk5253]

It is hard to keep the dust out. Maybe an air compressor to blow the dust out after you set up camp?

[@BoundForNowhere]

I have since learned that a truck bed liner would be perfect for the issue

[@jasonw820]

@@BoundForNowhere what do you mean by a Berliner? Like a bed rug?

[@Trekgalaxi]

@@BoundForNowhere yes please can you elaborate more on this bedliner that can potentially block out the dust? Thank you kindly

[@cmcer1995]

Thank you for this review on a blank canvas approach to a pop-up camper. But, I think it would be a step in the wrong direction for you two with living the in luxury with the rich and famous. I am however, looking forward to how you will be able to compromise. How about Flex Seal for those truck bed openings? Tailgates always have spaces but there are seals that are specifically designed to seal those. See you next time guys.

[@mavmav6555]

Dang dust! Not my idea btw, but... Fab a AIR TIGHT BOX that accepts a car air filter above (and outside) of the fan. On a dusty trail turn on the fan pulling air into the camper. The theory is to keep a positive air pressure in the camper, if the camper has positive air pressure then the dust won't migrate inside. I personally have not tried this but it sounds logical. My little wedge would require much more fabrication for something like this to work, a snorkel would be interesting. Keep it simple and use the same filter your truck uses. Like I said, haven't tried it myself so obviously no experience success or fail. Just thought I'd toss it out there.

[@BoundForNowhere]

Woooooooow this is fascinating

[@LandElevated]

This van conversion is awesome! Perfect for people who would love to live away from the city. We will surely share your videos with our customers who bought land from us and planning to live in this type of house. Thanks for sharing your story!

[@jackmehoff9595]

Isn’t not being able to lock up for the evening from inside a bit of a dealer breaker in terms of night time safety?

[@_Akicita_]

I have nothing but respect for Four Wheel Campers but I truly believe that dollar for dollar the Alu Cab Canopy Camper is a better choice for this style of camper. Better design, keeps dust out, you can secure yourself in it and much more durable off-road.

[@BoundForNowhere]

I hear those leak? Any personal experience with those? I'd be curious.

[@_Akicita_]

@@BoundForNowhere I have been running Alu Cab Canopy Camper on my 20 ZR2 Bison for almost a year now with no water or dust intrusion at all. The vendor I purchased it from in Denver did a great job to ensure it was installed correctly and sealed per the manufacturer specs. The cam lock side hinge access door seals very tightly. I have used in in every condition imaginable and just got back from a 2600 mile trip through the Southwest on many dusty BLM roads and one Late March haboob outside of Page UT with no noticeable traces of dust inside. I'd be happy to show you my setup for comparison value when you get back into Colorado.

[@danielstoscup755]

Awesome review thanks!

[@duaneulman9915]

Thank you

[@14supersaint]

Amazing content! Thanks so much for sharing. I think I’ll wait until this design is improved upon, or until another competitive option comes out.

[@BoundForNowhere]

A lot of the things we brought up they're already working on!

[@brulew976]

@@BoundForNowhere do you know if the built in shelves are removable on this camper? I agree about them impeding a clean cabinet build.

[@garethdawson9830]

Great review.

[@sungk3962]

Thanks for the review. I was thinking same thing when I was looking into Project M - those two platform tables on either side of the interior would be very limiting if I decide to build out inside.

[@BoundForNowhere]

Yeah at the end of the day I think it all depends on what you plan to do with it. In it's less built out form I honestly thought it was really nice to have those platforms but for a full build, yeah, I think they'd be in the way

[@sneakyray9160]

Do you have to drill holes to mount it?

[@jackwalsh1468]

Mac, enjoyed the video tour. Will there be a new fuzzball addition in the future??? Cheers, Mate.

[@BoundForNowhere]

I wish. We aren't ready to add another furry member to the family and I think it will be a while for us. We have some upcoming (international plans) that wouldn't be super conducive with adding another cat until we flush out those details. It also just still feels so fresh for us. :(

[@jackwalsh1468]

@@BoundForNowhere Understood, Mac and Cheers.