Bourbon Boom Crash... The Bourbon Boom Is Over!

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[@bourbonkingdom]

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[@cardinalj]

I'm a bourbon guy that has been doing it since the early 2000s. Started with hunting vintage bottles when they were fairly easy to find. I got super heavy into it and my collection peaked around 2015. I took a inventory of my collection, and I had over 200 bottles unopened + 40 opened. Decided It wasn't a good thing for my time and down the road, my health. Sold my entire collection took my family to Hawaii and never looked back. I still enjoy bourbon content and occasional pour. But I am a happier, healthier person walking away from it.

[@griffew81]

It’s getting harder and harder to spend $75-$100 on a good bottle that is marginally better than a lot of $50-$60 bottles.

[@charleselul6786]

No wonder we can't find any Stagg, Zach has it all!🤣

[@bourbonkingdom]

10 years in the making lol.

[@redbrook20]

There’s enough single barrels for a Patreon barrel pick

[@iane8705]

hoarding is unappealing

[@brianh9789]

The background (not too subtle of a flex) is why there's a bust. Hunters became hoarders thus supply became artificially wonky. I'm taking couple of years off of buying just to enjoy the tons of bottles I have. You'd be surprised how much money you'll save in one month.

[@johnny5183]

I’m trying to do the same!

[@etheridgegray4125]

But I would like to humbly add my opinion. Most of those bottles have a sticker if not all. So they are store picks

[@keithpetersen560]

@@etheridgegray4125 That is a good point, but he lives in the area. Still, that is way to much of one product for me. Just my opinion.

[@cowboyd5673]

Hopefully if it busts, it will mean for us non-collectors, that we can find those bottles we haven’t been able to find to try. I’ll probably always stick with four roses and Buffalo Trace as my staples but I want to try eagle rare, Blantons, Stagg, and pappy, others on my list are the special releases of four roses other mash bill single barrels that just came out.

[@magickmarck]

Possibly a collective chunk of people realizing that centering your free time and expenditure on alcohol is a bad idea.

[@BasedSandorClegane]

Adults have been responsibly collecting high end bourbons for at least a century... This is America - feel free to keep your judgmental bs to yourself... None of your fucking business...

[@caseyD2016cubs]

Glad to see it crashing personally. Company greed needs to be checked. 5 years old bourbon for 80 bucks shouldn’t be the norm. Hoarders also have created this and now are cutting spending while they have created an artificial demand.

[@1620OffGrid]

You mean like the guy in the video with about 25 stag jr store picks in the background?

[@Fatherrick1963]

It’s crashing in the U.S., but these huge legacy distilleries that are now part of even huger International Conglomerates aren’t exclusively focusing of the U.S. market. They’re looking outward internationally, and they’re looking long-term. Like Scotch is popular in many, many countries world-wide, that’s what they’re looking to do with the American Spirit. How can you talk about the bourbon market without talking about other continents and countries. One thing I’ve learned is this. Conglomerates don’t invest millions - and even billions - in distillation and aging/storage capacity by only looking at the U.S. market. They’re focused worldwide.

[@keithpetersen560]

100% agree. It's not often you come across a scotch that is 5 years, but it usually isn't $80.. This is why I've never paid more than Msrp for any allocated whiskey. Plus I've passed on many bottles, just because I didn't think they were worth it.

[@blakeanderson1214]

@@1620OffGridexactly. Only one per customer. Yeah….okay

[@anthonyfranklin9884]

@@1620OffGrid😂😂😂😂

[@Justin-kv1xy]

When you can’t get ahold of allocated bots or they are so overpriced you don’t buy so your left to gamble on $75 store picks that seem to get younger and worse by the day it loses all the fun

[@crow468]

The bourbon boom created a lot of hoarding and secondary standard pricing that priced out people that actually appreciate it and share it with friends. Glad to see it go away.

[@ericchristensen1630]

Thanks for showing off the entire rack of Stagg picks 😂

[@prandy1727]

Hopefully prices come down and availability picks up. Take care of yourselves out there, and remember.... alcohol is a poison. Enjoy responsibly!!!

[@vikingsoftpaw]

I don't think you'll see prices come down... I think you'll see a lot of the smaller brands disappear.

[@MrBoostin18]

Prices ain’t coming down and availability won’t pick up. Distilleries like BT will just cut back and create a demand like they have been doing.

[@0529mpb]

​​@MrBoostin18 MSRP will not come down a cent. Secondary pricing has and will continue to come down. When secondary gets close enough to MSRP, the secondary market for that particular product disappears.

[@2ASHKENAZI]

Personally… the “community” has exhausted me… bunch of folks who sit on bourbon group chats running to the store at the smallest alert of a drop and buying way more than just for themselves so they can either resell it or get it for their buddies. Also the amount of 90 dollar store picks, that you have to buy to get into the tater raffle… I’m burned out

[@joee7978]

I stopped frequenting the local whiskey board on Facebook. Just got way to frustrating

[@scottl.6932]

I never understood hoarding/collecting whiskey just to have it. I buy whiskey that I want to drink and enjoy. The handful of bottles I have, I drink. Some are daily sippers and some are special occasion, but they all get opened and enjoyed.

[@joee7978]

I could live off of Craig BP, Jack single BP, smoke wagon BP, still Austin Cask and an occasional magnus cigar blend splurge. All of these are on the shelves now even Jack rye BP.

[@bencunningham5702]

We need a bourbon collection video! I knew you had more stuff than just what we normally see in the background😂

[@michaelfrock2473]

A minor suggestion, I think it might be better to not have background music while giving your thoughts.

[@bourbonkingdom]

I'll keep that in mind for future videos!

[@josephclites6971]

You are so right about the newer consumers! Got into bourbon a little over a year ago, and once I established a decent collection (spent a ton of money) and got to try a bunch of different shelfers and allocated bottles, I have gotten so much pickier. I am more educated, know more what I'm looking for, and less likely to spend on the unknown.

[@griffew81]

You just described my bourbon journey perfectly. I used to have a giant list of bourbons that I tried and liked. Now I am 2-3 bottles shy of having exactly what I want and then replacing bottles as I kill them

[@Best_Overserved_--_No_Ice]

@@griffew81, How many bourbons in the collection now?

[@griffew81]

@@Best_Overserved_--_No_Ice I’ve got 47 bottles. At one time my “to buy” list was around 25 or so. I’ve purchased maybe 3 from that list and have 2-3 to go. None of those are allocated and only one is over $100, but it’s just barely over. The rest of them got cut because I realized I’m no longer interested in them anymore and I’d just be chasing them to chase them.

[@joee7978]

Same thing happened in 94 with sports cards and comic books. You would pay $15 for a pack of upper deck cards because you might get a frank Thomas rookie card. Comic books were marked up immediately upon hitting shelves and multiple “limited” edition alternate covers. Looking back it a huge warning sign was when my dad started buying comic books, he bought ten and stempy number one and the first ten issues of spawn. He never read a single one. But now I have them so it all worked out lol

[@hall6ppc1]

It wasn’t Covid . This boom has been slowly growing over the last decade. People cycled have through the bourbon buying journey. The chase of trying to find allocated bottles only to come up empty or pay stupid prices has gone cold. Along with the flood of barrel picks and craft bottles that are over priced and unknown , this too has ran its course . Most people that have been in this game for 5 to 10 plus years have more whiskey than they can ever drink and have realized it’s just not that fun to be in this rat race. At least that where I’m at.

[@dietmdew845]

The bourbon boom is not over until Buffalo Trace products are readily available on store shelves for MSRP. Just because an average distillery with average juice is laying people off means nothing. People want BT products and they can not be found anywhere unless you have connections.

[@MrBoostin18]

Agreed 100%. And once BT products get to the point they can be shelf stable, BT goes nope and drops a new higher aged product

[@joshuabunkers1494]

100%. I have thought as much as well. Until these start showing up on the shelf at retail, the consumer end of the "Bourbon Boom" is still rolling.

[@truckingusa259]

Ok.. well yall can chase buffalo trace garbage. Their whiskey is not that good! Meanwhile everyone else will be buying everything else for cheap.

[@MrBoostin18]

@@truckingusa259 we aren’t only chasing their stuff but they are the prime example of why nothing will be shelf stable. The only 2-3 products of theirs i like is Stagg, er, and eht barrel proof. But they know they can have their stuff shelf stable but they choose to make it super allocated and hard to get.

[@anthonyfranklin9884]

@@truckingusa259Facts!!! Overpriced Overhyped mid level whiskey

[@Shallowpockets87]

I get being frustrated about prices but people have shown they will pay higher prices on secondary. Why wouldnt the producer increase the msrp? The bourbon community is more to blame than the producer imo.

[@bughjr1]

The Stagg picks in the background is crazy!!!! It's hard enough getting a regular one!!

[@steveno7058]

I’m so distracted by the 200 bottles of Stagg Jr

[@DaveNorton-yi5ix]

Nice analysis ... I've spent 40 years in the business world and I think you've nailed the discussion perfectly. Any distillery who reduced debt and did things to try to increase their customer base knew what they were doing.

[@joshuabunkers1494]

I think these "Bourbon Boom" takes from KZbinrs are all wrong. It's all from the business perspective; revenues down, closing cooperages, layoffs, etc... etc... But for the most part, all your followers are consumers and this drop in demand is amazingly great news for us consumers.

[@blackhillsrider2626]

This reminds me of the cigar boom and ultimate bust that followed.

[@MrDjcomeback]

Now we know why Stagg is priced the way it is

[@joee7978]

The most egregious price increase I’ve seen is midwinters night going from $100 to $189 in just a couple of years. Absolute slap in the face especially considering how hit and miss it is

[@ASerfling36]

Video length was just fine without Dave interrupting every 30 seconds 🤣😂

[@offcamber]

Sam’s Club and Costco are selling more booze than ever. Get ready for more distilleries dumping good juice at wholesale clubs. Heaven Hill 7yr and Rare Breed below retail is a sign of the times.

[@100puremustard5]

I saw WT 101 70th at Costco for $30, and still passed!😂 Also saw Wilderness Trail BnB Rye for $24. $24!!!!!!!

[@Toelishness]

Shops around me charging $80 for small buffalo trace and $300 for Blantons...

[@cjjohnson4231]

Well done commentary. I’ve only been hunting Bourbon for 16 months or so. Lived in Nashville for 6 years in the early 2000’s and had no interest and wife traveled to Frankfort, KY all the time for business…I had no idea. She only talked about the horse farms. Now retired, Bourbon collecting is my new hobby. I only overpaid for one bottle and in hindsight, dumb move. I’m much more selective now and I do research before buying. I know my flavor profile too. Oh, I drink my bottles and gift bottles so only a little hoarding 😂. Cheers!

[@philbukowski726]

Solid video. Contraction comes for markets of any kind. I would be surprised not to see prices fall before stabilizing as consolidation of the industry occurs. The interesting question becomes what happens after that.

[@curetiamhices289]

Holy crap! I didn’t hear a thing once I saw all that Stagg Jr on the shelf. 🤯 For myself, I have paused my hunting except for about 4 bottles. I will drink down my current collection while waiting to see what happens.

[@kennethfilipiak6075]

One of your best videos - insightful and right on

[@yomama9462]

I haven’t bought anything significant for 8 months I have also stopped chasing the allocated bottles. I have been after the best $25 bottle and have found a few I really enjoy thankfully. It has saved me a lot of money and time. Prices have got out of hand and the quality of a lot of the expensive bottles are terrible.

[@randygary9206]

I live in pa. I watch alot of bourbon hunt videos on youtube and can't believe whats sitting on shelves in some states that we never see here.

[@chriskososki9931]

You are very educated and knowledgeable. I'm glad I watched this video entirely, you nailed it with how things are going.

[@bourbonkingdom]

Appreciate you! Glad you enjoyed it.

[@brysontaylor1223]

It’s amazing how the market is crashing, they’ve been expanding like crazy and I still can’t get a bottle of EH Taylor without spending too much time or money to find one.

[@Jking692]

Iam in KY and buy alot of EH and prices are coming down. Most local stores have small batch for 65-90 🦌. Picked up EH unfiltered for 199

[@Best_Overserved_--_No_Ice]

@@Jking692, I'm outside of KY and have seen only one bottle of EH Small Batch in the last year and it was $149.

[@MaryS-go8dl]

Great job and perspective. Thank you

[@rpredl]

It’s about time for a market correction.

[@mikeh7917]

I WISH I could find more Discovery 12.

[@marriner5]

The good is that you will be able to have 100 Staggs instead of the 30 behind you.

[@anthonyfranklin9884]

😂😂😂😂

[@lkerh1]

If you sideline the bourbon hoarders, flippers and collectors, there will be a bust. But it’s not going to happen until folks stop paying them a huge markup to pry an allocated bottle from their hands.

[@MrBoostin18]

Bourbon boom ain’t over. Products are still unattainable. And then you got BT pushing demand and releasing new products vs making their normal stuff shelf stable.

[@scottlumpkin7023]

I’m certainly no expert in the business side of whiskey, but a friends wife has worked with one of if not the largest liquor distributors in So Cal….13 years worth and she just got laid off. At an Albertsons grocery store a week ago I bought 3bottles of Henry McKenna bib @ 22.50 per…some thins going on….a local BevMo store no longer is stocking Early Times or Henry McKenna….makes me go…hmmmmmm?….it will be interesting to see how everything is going to shake out…

[@MattStangelo]

Great job on this Zach. We appreciate it!

[@bourbonkingdom]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Chris-x8g1m]

FYI. Blantons is 59.00 today at the distillery. Two weeks ago I paid 52.00. Hope this isn’t the foreseeable future. And not sure what it means today. Just the messenger

[@BourbonForageFishing]

The bourbon bust is going to usher in a GOLD AGE for bourbon drinkers. I'm excited 🎉

[@Dustbrother1099]

I think we're all being a little more judicious in what we purchase and we know more about what's worth it and what's not. For me, the FOMO doesn't hit as hard as it used to as well. Also, my taste profile has changed and I've moved toward searching for those types of experiences. Finally, I have so many bottles and truthfully I can only think of a handful of bottles (other than unicorns) that I'd want in my collection.

[@100puremustard5]

THIS! Most of us have 200+ bottles in our collections now and have realized we'll never go through all of them, especially if we're buying a couple new ones every month! We're at the point if it ain't BTAC, Russell's 15 or the JD14(soon!) we're not buying!😂😂😂

[@davidvoth7218]

After seeing the inflated price of MWND, and consumers reaction to it, I knew the industry would be in trouble. The inflated pricing across the board has made me a lot more selective. Even if I was offered a bottle of Michters 20 or Double Eagle Very Rare at list I'd happily decline. None of these LE bottles are worth their price.

[@christopherm.2413]

The funny thing about mwnd is that high west said they were increasing the volume of bottles they were putting out of it. Wtf!? 😂

[@100puremustard5]

​@@christopherm.2413I passed on it at Costco $130, no thanks. It's a stretch at $90 with all the great stuff Sagamore is putting out!😂

[@seandankers2631]

Appreciate all the info. But damn, all that stagg..... LOL

[@anthonyfranklin9884]

😂😂 that stagg got him trouble lol

[@Shootsmith]

Did he mention Buffalo Trace? Still can’t find the bottles you want, but then they release cheap crap no one wants or super expensive special editions no one can afford. Just make more of the stuff that’s now rare/allocated but used to be everyday bottles!

[@dane5896]

People are tired of getting ripped off. They can keep their bourbon.

[@beardzzone]

I think instead of so many special releases they should come up with something great affordable and stay on the shelf

[@bobczarnecki3479]

Great video. Due to the higher prices it has forced me to take a look at other options. In a lot of cased I've discovered other options that I like more or are a better value. The bigger distilleries are losing there loyalty base.

[@gannonbertrand3115]

Bourbon craze isn't t going anywhere .

[@MangoSurferDude]

Price increases are tied to supply and demand. If folks are willing to buy at the higher price and the supply is still getting cleared out, most companies will keep increasing prices until the demand drops. Sorry, but this is capitalism. Most companies have investors that are in it for the money, not the passion for the product.

[@AdamWebber1]

The bet is that there might be way more supply than demand. Lots and lots of inventory on the market, stores don’t want to keep all the excess bottles in the warehouses, and so they dump bottles on the market. If demand stays the same or even slumps do to loss of accessible markets (tariffs) tightening wallets (consumers) then we should see bottle prices drop unless sellers want to warehouse bottles to create a fake scarcity.

[@ddwb1]

@@AdamWebber1there are more bottles on the shelf than there are consumers, that’s not new. There is still way more demand than supply for specific distillers and releases (e.g. Stagg). So as demand decreases, I think the price of “unhunted” bottles will go down and the profit margins for their production may become unsustainable. For the hunted bottles, availability may go up modestly, but frankly their pricing (MSRP) is still way on the left side of a supply demand curve.

[@mattwilliams3373]

Having a good store that gives a fair shot to everyone at or close to MSRP keeps people engaged in the hobby as well. It seems those are few and far between currently if the comment section of whiskeytubers is an indication

[@johnny5183]

Well said at the end!

[@bourbonkingdom]

Thank you Johnny!

[@MrBoostin18]

The only problem i have with bardstown is they do too much collaborations. Do the disco and do the origins series.

[@jasonmethvin]

I like to experiment with stuff and have a Manus? cigar blend among others. I even got a bottle of EH Taylor single barrel for $100 which was great. However, I recently came back to OF 120 and WT Rare breed and it is head and shoulders better than everything else. Its hard to justify laying down 100 or so for a bottle.

[@ThOoRcLeS]

My first bottle of BBC is Disco 11, loved it. Now, I have 6 bottles of their stuff in total.

[@valleye1966]

With Tariffs in place and the stock of many of the companies dropping you will see some brands drop from their list of Whiskey's companies will focus on the brands that sell. How will that affect prices? That's the big question. Personally Availability will get worse. MGP stock 6M ~$90.00 today ~$34.00. From Jack Cramer MSNBC Brown-Forman Corporation (NYSE:BF-B)'s management erred by diverting attention and funds away from Jack Daniel's to other brands. He also believes that high prices are another factor behind the firm's poor performance:

[@rainygirl65]

Got any Blantons ?

[@jonox6476]

Awesome video, I like this style. Bourbon news!!

[@bourbonkingdom]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.

[@xhopesfall88]

Link to the storage rack?

[@bourbonkingdom]

Don't have a link but I buy them from Costco when they go on sale. They are the 6 rack heavy duty kitchen ones. You can find them at Home Depot as well but cost a little more. When I find them on sale it is normally around 100 I think.

[@keithpetersen560]

Don't by Russell's, Evan Williams or other brands if they keep jacking up the price. They're to many options already on the shelves. A special release is just a way for a distillery to offer a little better quality and over charge for the product.

[@breakinghues2751]

3:15 video starts

[@alejandrodelius8664]

I recommend video sections if you’re going to start the video on minute 3.

[@dewalt5599]

Solid stuff here

[@charlespaynter6835]

Hilarious it’s still balls to the wall here.

[@bluedevil0111]

Insightful video, but the music is quite distracting.

[@Whiskeywhiskerson123]

Being working class i’m glad I can finally find the whiskey made for people like me (not hoarder snob taters)

[@Whiskeywhiskerson123]

I also hope brewzle lose his ass on all his goofy barrels and barrel picks from idiots

[@epegr1075]

Idk if you’ve done a collection reveal video or anything, but that storage rack is insane! You have so much good bourbon, would be curious to see the whole thing

[@MrCoreyRobert]

You gotta show us the entire collection and bunker after showing the most obscene Stagg and Smoke Wagon collection ive ever seen. Holy shit bro.

[@anthonyfranklin9884]

😂😂

[@chrisw.4318]

How do you think Canada not selling American spirits is going to affect the market?

[@LoneWolf-qk9pl]

cough...(.E.U.).....?

[@bourbonkingdom]

Honestly I am not sure I don't know the details of how much is ship/sold. I just know some of the bigger distillerys I have talk to believe they can weather the storm of tariffs.

[@chrisw.4318]

@ Apparently the Liquor Control Board of Ontario is the largest spirits buyer in the world and they’ve announced they’re stopping sales of even current inventory of US products. More allocated bourbon for us hopefully.

[@100puremustard5]

​@@chrisw.4318Stopping sales of current inventory is either really spiteful... or really stupid. Or both!😂 When the U.S. stops buying their garbage they'll change their mind!

[@Abs0lut3_Z3r0]

As someone currently in ontario, trust me we are not poaching *anything* allocated here from anyone. Last year literally zero non-shelfer bottles were sold province-wide in the entire year - granted that’s an outlier year but still

[@williamprice1542]

I'm a little mad that I heard wild turkey is ending the spirit of Kentucky, which Is the single barrel 101...I really liked the bottle, ans the price point ... what is going to happen to those special barrels? Probably expensive releases that are hard to find 😢 15:12

[@christopherm.2413]

They're even stopping either the master's keep or the cornerstone . Can't exactly remember which one. But, they are bringing the 8 year 101 out as a regular shelfer, and eventually, they are bringing the unfiltered Rare Breed to the US.

[@ScottM117]

Bruce Russell said on The Mash and Drum that Kentucky spirit will be exported to other countries and Russell’s Single Barrell will be for the US. It has something to do with the taxes those countries pay based off of alcohol percentage. The good thing is even tho we are losing Kentucky spirit we are getting 8 year wild turkey 101

[@brineshrimp8603]

Kentucky Spirit will also be available at the WT gift shop

[@MrBoostin18]

Rndc cut back because they lost BT/Saz

[@codykaila3654]

Do I see about 20+ Stagg store picks or is that some optical illusion like a mirror or something? Do my eyes deceive me? Lol

[@bourbonkingdom]

No not all are stagg picks lol.

[@jskinner79]

The video was so much more enjoyable without Dave 😂. Just kidding Dave

[@ShawnO201]

You’all got any Stagg? Maybe a Smoke Wagon ?

[@bourbonkingdom]

A few. A lot is open if you need to try one or three.

[@chriscrowe87]

Think your Russel single barrel price is your state. Where I lived is state controlled. I paid $63 last month not $80 fortunately. Wouldn’t buy it at 80. So I see that

[@bourbonkingdom]

That is awesome for you my friend. Hopefully they stay that way for you!

[@100puremustard5]

I get store picks for $70 in NoCal

[@Farwalker2u]

This article makes me wonder: Buffalo Trace Distillery nears completion of decade-long $1.2 billion expansion project Darby Beane Jan 15, 2025 Please say it ain't so that my favorite distillery is in danger!

[@theLoopHomesteadGardenNursery]

the consumer is being priced out and where going with are normal bottles

[@VietPho]

I cant hear you talking with that damn jukebox playing in the room

[@bourbonkingdom]

Sorry for that will work on that for next time!

[@VietPho]

@@bourbonkingdomthx. I was able to turn on youtube captions and that helped

[@hanshawks5088]

Gen Z don't like hard liquor 😭😭😭

[@mikeloy8337]

I certainly don't " feel bad " for the distillers getting back to normal production. Are they really "LOSING" money. Meh - allocated/ special releases are only available to the few- so they created this shortage per se, and now they need to pivot before more bourbon people do. Flood the market with good juice at a reasonable price and we will all buy it. Like you said - good distillers doing the right thing will still prosper... No place for bad juice anymore

[@nelsonmercadojr2749]

Tell the to come down in prices then

[@lukem5477]

All the ads and plugs right at the start so nobody wants to watch your video, smart

[@lukem5477]

And the plugs twice holy hell

[@keenanholcomb5680]

Jesus Christ holy Stagg batman

[@LoneWolf-qk9pl]

The big boys can weather the storm......Craft bottlers?....Not so much. Love WT products, but Campari is making bank on all those limited editions ( for the FOMO crowd). Can all got to h*ll !

[@andrewaring]

I agree let's boycott wild Turkey until the prices drop. Over hyped and overpriced!

[@robertlee6781]

The eight year coming out this year is supposed to be priced right.

[@andrewaring]

@robertlee6781 yeah I don't care I refuse to buy any of their products at this point

[@ironmantran]

Boom over . . . Greed-flation lurks . . . Childish hunting-chasing lottery still sticky . . . more good BB for the drinkers.

[@KurtFogleman]

Re higher prices on allocated: I would prefer the profit to go to the distillery rather than the scum selling on secondary.

[@wilsonwoo6007]

Nice smoke wagon

[@johnwill7962]

Sorry but Pursuit United is going to get crushed. When every KZbinr starts praising them when talking about the downturn it means there’s blood in the water. I’m sure they’re just hoping to get some traction going to sell out to a big player and not take a massive loss.

[@OrangeTuxRad]

I called someone out over their clear bias for Pursuit and Pursuit came into the comments to defend them. Not a good look.

[@Bourbonandbrews]

Pursuit united guys know the industry .

[@100puremustard5]

​@@BourbonandbrewsI'll take that bet!😂 No offense to the PU guys, they seem nice. But the OP is right, they will get crushed.

[@Bourbonandbrews]

@ what makes you think so?

[@Bourbonandbrews]

@ those guys have been around longer than most you tubers facts .

[@MrZanzibar123]

Dude, you have a big brain in that big ol' noggin! But seriously: Very insightful analysis! Well done. Keep it up.

[@bourbonkingdom]

Thanks buddy.

[@gregcarley8640]

Solid shelf of Stagg! Don’t see much of that in my area. Thanks for the video.