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[@JesseOnYoutube]

adding in more affected authors. you can get their books here: So Let Them Burn by Kamilah Cole: www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/kamilah-cole/so-let-them-burn/9780316534635/?lens=little-brown-books-for-young-readers Road to Ruin by Hana Lee: www.simonandschuster.com/books/Road-to-Ruin/Hana-Lee/Magebike-Courier/9781668035610

[@mcclorei9]

I literally just brought So Let Them Burn. It was on the buy one get one 50% while being on sale. I wondered why

[@devlyn873]

"Snapping" generally doesn't have a complex web of multiple steps...that shit took so much intension.

[@JesseOnYoutube]

EXACTLY. also what pressure? the pressure she put on herself? lmao the book was already written. they had already acquired the deal. make it make sense.

[@BooksToAshes]

Love how she acted like she stumbled upon BIPOC authors randomly and it wasn’t completely intentional, as if Goodreads even pushes BIPOC authors to the forefront of their site/app enough to have that happen 🙄

[@JesseOnYoutube]

HOLY SHIT good point

[@cherstuff20]

Exactly. Let's be honest, this long excuse to avoid being called racist. Because it would have been easier to apologize and and explain if she bombed lots of people/randoms who came out around the same time as her book.

[@josielacey8372]

Wow, I've never heard an apology that was so completely focused on the person in the wrong. Also, as a white woman with a mental illness, can confirm that when in the midst of severe depression and basically unable to function, I've never suddenly felt the urge to systematically attack POC. My meds have a lot of side effects, but racism isn't one of them

[@srose1088]

You must carry the special immunity of having a conscience that allows you not to fall victim to this affection. 😂

[@AbrasiousProductions]

neither have i, even at my most mental ill I never turned to racism against anyone.

[@BookNerd-Maggie22]

Exactly. I struggle with depression and anxiety daily, and take meds for it, and yet, I still know that racism is bad.

[@itsmarthai]

Ok so I'm autistic, recently diagnosed with ADHD, terrified of "doing bad things and not realizing" AND of checking scary internet places where people might be angry at me (CPTSD and having been digitally abused). The first thing you do if you actually cared in the most remote way about others is get someone safe to come sit with you, find out what you may have done, help you remedy it, take your login away, and then call your doctor to tell them this medicine gave you a very severe side effect - which would never get you institutionalized because the symptom (if it were real) is not there as long as you don't take this medication. The pile of lies is absurd

[@JesseOnYoutube]

PILE OF LIES. the name of their rock band.

[@abibliophobe2731]

As someone who has CPTSD and suffered from pretty bad dissociative episodes... I 100% always talked with my therapist when I had a scary incident or contacted individuals I shouldn't have during an episode (those related to my trauma) because it terrified me when it happened and I wanted to fix it as soon as possible. I just feel like her apology was an excuse. Even if there is validity to her "mental illness and meds or sobriety being an issue".... Just apologize and don't make excuses. And, I don't want to downplay what mental illness can do to someone... But the apology didn't seem sincere and it honestly just rubbed me the wrong way.

[@samanthaburns6956]

YEEEEESSSSS! As an ADHDer who might be ASD. None of Caits excuses make any sense. Like when I hurt people it is usally an accident or a misunderstanding. Like oops I didn't realize what I said could be taken as mean, or oops I lost track of time/the executive isn't funtioning and I haven't responded to texts for a week. Not, I HAVE DONE AN INTIONTIONAL BEHAVIOUR OVER THE SPAN OF MONTHS THAT EVEN A TODDLER WOULD TELL ME IS MEAN, JUST TO SOOTH MY OWN EGO. Cait needs to get over themselves

[@nerdjournal]

I'm autistic with severe ADHD. I don't think it's appropriate to ever frame things as how you do something "if they actually cared." The way you handle a situation and the way I handle a situation can be completely different, and it wouldn't mean I cared any less than you did. I know we tend to look at the world outward from our own perspective, I find it hard to try to imagine the world from other people's perspectives, but I have learned based on how often people do things completely different from myself, that the way I do thing while it may be the right way for myself, it isn't necessarily gong to be right for you. It wouldn't make you any less or any more, it would just make you an individual. While our experiences do inform our opinions and our beliefs, it's always best to consider that our experiences don't account for everyone's experience. I care about others. I also suffer side effects from medication. If a medicine has a bad side effect, I'm prone to it. Effexor XR made me feel like I was having a bad trip on mushrooms and dying for multiple hours. I care about people and myself. I didn't have someone sit with me, I just buried my head under a pillow and waited for the horrible feeling and visions and nausea to go away. I only say all of that, because, well... Medications can make you do things that you wouldn't typically do, but they won't change who you are or provoke you to do something severely out of character. They may emphasize a bad characteristic, like kleptomaniacs and Xanax. However, this lady is just a bad person. Medications are JUST an excuse for her. While I have seen some medications turn people into monsters. Never seen it turn them into fake book reviewers. Every time I switch medications, I become a menace for everyone and end up losing friendships. Usually, because I never shut up and end up saying something wrong because my filter is broken. But most autistic people know how that is. I'm just saying I can see a world where medication could have played a role in her decision, but the medications don't change who we are. So if you do bad things on medication, the medication isn't what makes you bad, you are bad before you take the medication. The medication just removes your fear of letting that side out. Which still isn't an excuse. -a man with a regret or two.

[@delisamccoy6500]

To quote a post by the Ambien company after Roseanne Barr said she was Ambien tweeting, "Racism is not a side effect."

[@JesseOnYoutube]

LOL, they did that!? HAHAHA

[@delisamccoy6500]

Yep!

[@burymewithabook]

👏

[@ChemicalPenguinn]

R F Kuang is probably sipping tea in her office right now. This whole situation is very à la Yellowface.

[@coela2616]

my first thought "did this person read Yellowface and think 'oh that looks fun I wanna try'"

[@misscheevous8786]

Full list of authors that were review bombed Bethany Baptiste - The Poisons We Drink Xiran Jay Zhao - Iron Widow Kamilah Cole - So Let Them Burn Molly X. Chang - To Gaze Upon Wicked gods Akana Phenix - The Empire Wars Danielle L. Jensen - A Fate Inked in Blood Thea Guanzon - The Hurricane Wars R.M. Virtues - Drag Me Up Hana Lee - Road to Ruin K.M. Enright - Mistress of Lies Voyage of the Damned - Frances White

[@JesseOnYoutube]

You are awesome, thank you!!!!!!!!!!!

[@keegangreene1694]

This story broke the same week I finished Yellowface. I wish I was shocked by the similarities.

[@SFF180]

If Corrain had put the same level of effort into _Crown of Starlight_ as she’s put into this elaborate, self-pitying martyr mantra masquerading as an apology, it might have been a more interesting book.

[@Dashti1000Days]

Nice alliteration! Also, you're so right!

[@thepokepoet9482]

Not the "Well my mom's bipolar"??? Omg as someone who is apart of a melting pot of a family, I got chills and my blood boiled at reading and watching this racist white crap unfold. Also Akasha knows how stressful this is making ya'll that's she's lingering around ya'll lol. We love a dramatic Queen

[@JesseOnYoutube]

She is truly a dramatic queen 👸

[@nache1085]

why does this stuff always happen during Black History Month?! can’t they at LEAST wait until after??

[@rahbeeuh]

They absolutely can't help themselves /s

[@jupitersnoot4915]

Probably because it's a time of year where a lot of focus is placed on POC. And both open and closet racists just can't stand that.

[@kaylamoran3528]

As a fellow white woman who only discovered her autistim in 2022, I have a lot of thoughts on Cait's actions in that regard specifically. I'll try to be brief. TW: ableism, autistic masking, violence towards mentally ill folks My autism has absolutely caused me to hurt people's feelings because of misunderstood tone or sarcasm, particularly before I was aware it was there. I am still responsible for any harm I caused, regardless of intent. My autism has absolutely NOT caused me to strategically review bomb People of Colour, or any marginalized community for that matter, in order to get ahead. The level of deception she attempted to pull off required was not a one time, regrettable impulsive act like she's trying to paint it as. (Even if it was, she's still be fully responsible, and it would still be racist) She's weaponizing the combination of autistic infantilization and the infantilization and coddling of white women. (Also worth noting the fact that autistic infantilization can have a very different impact depending on an autistic person's level of support needs and palatability to neurotypicals, particularly if they are POC males. "Innocent" can swing to "unable to control themselves, disruptive, or dangerous" very quickly. While infantilization harms all autistic folks, some of us still hold privilege over others. This also encourages masking for autistic folks, especially autistic women, which is a whole other soupy mess of simultanously providing privilege while causing harm that i frankly don't have the energy to go into). By blaming autism and mental illness and addiction for her violent actions, and claiming they cause them to act "against her will" Cait is effectively stripping the agency away from people in those already highly marginalized communities and adding to the fear that they are dangerous, which in turn can them in danger. Cait is perpetuating all of this. Now, on top of being violently racist to fellow authors, she's also being ableist and harming people within her own community, who she claims she hopes to be a voice for? Fuck that. Sorry if this was far too long, I hope I made some semblance of sense. I'm open to critique

[@kaylamoran3528]

Oh fuck i was not brief, sorry 😅

[@Urmumlel7025]

THIS!

[@JesseOnYoutube]

value you, very much. thank you for your input.

[@geminigrrl66]

I'm glad you mentioned RM Virtues and how Cait Corrain's pity party fauxpology and the coddling Daily Beast article sent him into unalived ideation and a deep mental spiral. I knew she was going on the white woman redemption tour though because they ALWAYS do.

[@JesseOnYoutube]

White woman redemption tour---

[@VanessaMarieBooks]

I also have an autistic brother and you're absolutely right, our brothers would not be here long if they harassed white women (not that they would anyway). There'd be no infantilizing or coddling of them. They'd be seen and labeled as "dangerous," there's no blaming it on their neurodivergence and getting a slap on the wrist. "Racism is often negligence." 1000% say it louder for those in the back. So many people today think they can't be racist cause they're looking at it through the lens of slavery or segregation/Jim Crow, and they want to distance themselves from being seen as those "types of racists," but those are not the only ways racism shows up. In today's world, it's not going to be overt/obvious, it's going to present in very subtle and negligent ways. Until people start to realize this, our society will never be able to truly unlearn racism. Also, I had a short story idea that I started brainstorming/outlining a while ago (but haven't gone any further with it yet) that's supposed to be a modern day retelling of Robin (Robyn-how I spell it) Hood where she uses new advanced tech to steal from big corporations and give to those in her community in need. I swear sometimes I watch y'alls video and think, "are we twins? We're so much alike, but still different. We had to be twins in another timeline/universe." 🤣🤣🤣 Can't wait to read y'all story. 😁

[@JesseOnYoutube]

HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!! FAM! We have to talk more in general and def about our similarities bc that is wild. Very much admire you so hearing we are anything alike makes us soft 🥹💘🤧

[@VanessaMarieBooks]

@@JesseOnKZbin Yes, we do. I'd still love to collab whenever y'all have time.

[@bex9708]

Great video on this situation. Watching y'all's reaction was therapeutic. I guess one good thing we can get out of this situation is helping the authors who were impacted and lifting their voices 🎉

[@JesseOnYoutube]

Thank you for being you, Bex.

[@Urmumlel7025]

I hate the ongoing trend of blaming mental illnesses, neurodivergence, and prescriptions for why bigotry happens. Bigotry is a luxury taught by the privileged.

[@danaslitlist1]

“Minding my Black owned businesses” Y’alllll🤣 My mom’s classroom of pre-k kids can apologize better than Cait 🤡🤡 I’m so glad y’all are covering this hot mess, absolutely love how insightful y’all are! Thank y’all for being so vulnerable and open. Seriously , could mental health have played a part in what Cait did (behaving in erratic ways, lashing out, etc)? Sure, but it’s not isolated to just mental health and autism, because those two things do not make you a racist. So for them to act as though it is, is highly offense. Not only to the intelligence of the people she’s lying to, but to the communities they’re using as excuses. I can’t get over Cait claiming that they told their doctor what medications she needed and the doctors were like “yeah sure here ya go.” THATS NOT HOW IT WORKS! Cait is desperately trying to save their career instead of taking the very EASY steps of apologizing and showing growth and change. The steps that anyone who wasn’t racist would be taking in order to fix the harm that was done.

[@call_me_will86]

If you or a loved one have had fits of unseasoned racism as a result of taking one of the many ADHD medications on the market... *You may be entitled to compensation.*

[@JesseOnYoutube]

WILL-- 💀

[@keturahstephen7577]

This is actually so annoying. There will always be some group of people holding her up when she hasn't and seemingly will no learn anything. She's only sorry she was found out otherwise she would have stopped after the first time she figured out what she did, instead of continuing. And it's not that easy finding debut bipoc books unless you're looking. I'm black and autistic, that sh*t pissed me off and not even to properly acknowledge her victims. She doesn't care, she wants a slap on the wrist and to be forgiven. Also, excited to read your books when they come out!!

[@JesseOnYoutube]

Ahhhh ty Ty for the nice words about our books! We are sorry you were attacked by someone within your own community 🤮 but we all know what community they really ride for so...

[@so_big_hope8694]

Her apology was just such an excuse. Today this is a second drama that popped up on my feed today, the other one is is the fact that the hugo awards had an update!

[@JesseOnYoutube]

We're filming the Hugo award update tomorrow! Intentionally saving it haha

[@ElegantMechanic_]

I'm on a lot of medication. Like, A LOT for mental health reasons (CPTSD and all that that entails). And it does a lot of things to me but not this. Anyway, thank y'all for speaking so passionately on this. As somebody so white my 23andMe result just says "Mayonnaise" I will now shut up and keep listening.

[@JesseOnYoutube]

Adore you and this comment :) big hugs

[@kaylamoran3528]

Its so unfair that y'all are nervous about releasing y'alls books, which sound amazing btw! I can't wait! Y'all have built a community of people who love y'all, and if anyone tries any funny business with those books, the love y'all have poured out to us over these years will be reflected back to y'all ❤

[@JesseOnYoutube]

KAYLA!!! JLKFWKLJFA

[@CatBarefield]

Thanks for talking about this. Your point of view is super valuable ❤

[@books_with_clementine]

Can we also mention that an apology needs to be addressed to all the people that you’ve wronged? Like, this author couldn’t take some time to make a list of all of them ??? And with the number of authors that seem to be included in this review bombing, I’m inclined to say that there are even more and the author is STILL lying to us??? Also, Jessie, I’m sorry that it made you more stressed about your own books, and just want to say you have my support 💜also your books sound really good!

[@JesseOnYoutube]

^^ loving this and thank you, Cementine!!!!

[@ghouling1111]

Hi, thank you for linking most of the books, so many did videos on this but didn’t even link the books. One thing- missed ‘so let them burn’ in description. Thank you. Also I think Hana Lee was also one of the people attacked.

[@JesseOnYoutube]

you're the best! Going to add in a pinned comment. thank you thank you!!

[@lokichocobo]

Iris Chang was a peripheral but formative author for me in High School. I read another author's story which they wrote for the sole purpose of dealing with having read The Rape of Nanking, it impacted me so much I bought the book but was unable to finish it. I can't believe someone I've admired so much has been dead this whole time.

[@booksgurrsandpurrs]

On fire with the remote drop. 🔥 Don't Fret Read Books just put out a video today talking about the Corrain mess and I appreciate both of ya'll for tackling the subject. Earlier this month I purchased So Let Them Burn, and I'll be reading it sometime in March. Moving forward I don't want to give one more brain cell to Corrain and put my energy into the authors that were affected by her nonsense. Thank you for everything you do.

[@JesseOnYoutube]

🥹💗

[@spilledteaissadtea3037]

Me with adhd and not being racist: 👁👄👁 Also I’ll give some credit about medicine. When my dosage of medication went up I started experiencing sensory hallucinations. Felt like bug where having a party on my skin. So I do believe, to a degree, that it’s possible that certain meds can cause hallucinations. However, still doesn’t excuse racism. Even if she was tripping on lsd, that racism had to come from the inside not the drug. Like one time I was in a paranoid delusion and convinced that my brother was trying to kill me, and yet for some reason I didn’t believe that all POC was evil and against me. I wonder why🤨

[@elena_1776]

I love the point about people being wrong about racism always being on purpose. Like I bet Cait Corrain genuinely doesn't think of themselves as a racist, but what they did was still racist as hell. And then to blatantly lie about it over and over again shows no actual remorse or self awareness.

[@BookinItWithAhtiya]

Akasha putting her whole head in the camera legit had me hollering LOL

[@JesseOnYoutube]

SHE IS ridiculous!!!

[@catherinebruno1689]

Accountability will always feel like an attack when you're not ready to address how your behavior harms others. People should know better at this point, enough with the excuses.

[@JesseOnYoutube]

This

[@samantharose1001]

Especially as a writer, one should know subject vs. object. An apology needs to have ‘I’ as the subject, doing the apology!! Like ‘I am sorry for causing harm.’ Saying ‘sorry you felt harmed’ suddenly turns ‘you’ into the active role like ‘you’ is responsible for the harm !! 😒 not okay. This whole situation is abhorrent. Glad so many Bookternet creators are speaking about this. Thanks for y’all’s insight as always.

[@JesseOnYoutube]

This!!!!!

[@AyceMcGee]

I can't trust her bullshit about not intentionally targeting bipoc authors. We all know bipoc authors are never really a part of those Goodreads lists, and if they are they're barely in the top 20, unless the lists are specifically for bipoc authors. Even then half the time they still have white authors writing black characters on those lists. I don't get how she expects anyone to think she magically didn't target white authors to the same degree when they were her actual competition. They were the ones making equal money to her and getting the same deals and shit.

[@JesseOnYoutube]

we hear u

[@jupitersnoot4915]

I hate situations like this because people like Cait Corrain have the opportunity to acknowledge what they did, take accountability for it, and change their ways for the better. I believe that everyone deserves second chances, but only if they actually use a second chance well. She has failed to take her second chance.

[@ppmaqchannel]

Nowadays ppl just default to 'mental illness' to justify any bad behavior. Like I got hella mental issues and you dont see me doing this shit.

[@JesseOnYoutube]

it was really sad to see someone throwing other mentally ill folk under the bus to further their own agenda. its unfortunate and it doesn't have to go down like that.

[@AshtheViking]

Love y'all Jesse! I really appreciated the racism as negligence framing, it'll help in a series of convos I've been having with my 'i'm not racist because I don't hate anyone' boss.

[@JesseOnYoutube]

yay!!!! good!!!!

[@MiracleMiriamMichaelaMilagro]

Thank y’all for saying all of this! I hope y’all are okay after this video. I know it was frustrating to do.

[@JesseOnYoutube]

Thank you, friend ❤️‍🩹

[@JesseOnYoutube]

Am good!! Currently reading The Kindest Lie on patreon sprints. It's been a relaxing, chill day.

[@MiracleMiriamMichaelaMilagro]

@@JesseOnKZbin Awesome! I hope it’s a five star! I’m listening to Our Violent Ends. Chloe Gong might just be an auto buy author for me.

[@balletbookworm]

It's the Richard Nixon playbook - "I'm not a crook!" He was a crook. "I'm not a racist!" Uh, yeah, Cait you are. Simple math shows that if she was doing this at random, the white to POC ratio would have been at least 60/40 (probably more like 80/20 tbh) with the majority of them white authors because the publishing industry is weighted that direction. Like, the complex steps associated with everything she did (omg, the fake Discord messages or whatever that she constructed when this first leaked to try and throw suspicion on some rando who didn't exist) is just...so much work! And then to go on another no-pology tour and just....be disgusting. How she hasn't hit magma with how deep her trench is at this point is beyond me. She just keeps digging.

[@JesseOnYoutube]

Magma 😂

[@samantharose1001]

OMG so excited for y’all’s books 💛💛💛💛💛 I’ll be first in line to preorder 🤩

[@JesseOnYoutube]

ahhhhh thank you, friend!!!

[@clareseymour6227]

Catching up on y’all’s videos at work :) your books sound incredible I’m beyond excited to read them

[@AbiofPellinor]

She made herself a shovel and just wouldn't stop digging 👷🏻‍♀️

[@saraslittlebooknook]

When I first saw this blowing up on Twitter, I made a point to take note of some of the authors impacted. I recently bought Kamilah Cole's novel & I'm so excited for it! It sounds amazing. I'll definitely be seeking out the works of these other authors.

[@freddie.spaghetti]

glad i just got the “playing legend of zelda for 10 hours straight with no breaks” autism instead of the “insane racist behaviour” autism. whew. (real talk tho it is so frustrating when people use their autism and/or mental illness as an excuse for vile shit like this!! it makes the community look bad, and it’s so disrespectful to especially the marginalised people who have similar struggles but are being silenced or demonised! thank y’all for talking about this. this video covered it really well imo💛)

[@Nixx0912]

Ps I'm definitely getting Akana's Phenix book. I also got "Voyage of the damened" partialy in support of the author, but it sounds like fun. I had most of the names out of Withcindy's chanel, positive point of the whole story is it got me interested in the books I might have not have heard of otherwise.

[@NateReadsDiversely]

20:48 Thank you so much for this

[@JesseOnYoutube]

Big hugs, Nate

[@coela2616]

frfr

[@monstermoo4191]

Cait Somerton with that non-apology 😂

[@JesseOnYoutube]

Omg googling now

[@angelaholmes8888]

Cait is still not taking accountability at all to me just making lame excuses

[@TSfan217]

I really appreciate y’all for talking about this ❤

[@mammasmankeys7912]

Uuuugh. We get so defensive abt racism 'accusations', when in reality the people calling us out are giving us a gift, if you're just willing to hear them out and process what they're saying, without immediately going into a self worth spiral. people giving you insight into how ur behavior affects them is VALUBLE, (even if it makes you feel bad).

[@JesseOnYoutube]

call outs are a gift

[@jessrichreadsbooks]

I always take something from your videos, ALWAYS. Truly appreciate and respect ya'll immensely!

[@shuwei9420]

Every word. Absolute truth. We are tireeeeeeeed.

[@Izzy-xl9kd]

Great video! Also I was jumpscared by hearing the name Akasha because that’s my best friends name and I’ve never really heard it online?? But Akasha (your dog) is so cute!!!

[@JesseOnYoutube]

Omg yesss!!!' Got it from Anne Rice's Queen of the Damned. LOVED Akasha growing up and the second I laid eyes on Akasha as a puppy, knew that name was hers 😊

[@xdani_thethinkingneko]

28:02 Whattttt that sounds SO SO good !!! 😭💗 Robin Hood is a favorite of my mine growing up. A modern retelling addressing the issues of the modern world, especially in America...is simply brilliant! 💗

[@JesseOnYoutube]

Ahhh thank you, Daniella!

[@lloroshastar6347]

I remember this time a former KZbinr was accused of grooming (as in actual grooming) and a lot of other KZbinrs came out to criticise him for it. Then Edwin's Generation I think he's called did a video to defend the groomer, saying he was sorry and he was in a bad place, then used that video to attack one of the other KZbinrs, Emma Blackery, who called him out for grooming. So it went from KZbinr abuses his power to groom young girls to another larger KZbinr using his platform to defend the groomer and attack a woman for calling him out in the first place. It was utterly absurd I couldn't believe what I was watching. I don't understand why there are always so many people who line up to defend bad people and then turn it into an attack line against those who call out the abusers.

[@VanessaMarieBooks]

"I don't understand why there are always so many people who line up to defend bad people and then turn it into an attack line against those who call out the abusers." It's cause they identify with the abusers not the abused.

[@lloroshastar6347]

@@VanessaMarieBooks It was also frightening seeing women in the comments backing up the narrative pushed by the video, with hundreds of likes. There are also a large number of comments defending the woman who called out the abuser. But still, the argument against her seems to be "she was too mean", but all she did was call him out for grooming underage fans. The strange thing is, Edwin's Generation does other videos on abusers and calls them out, like Die Antwoord for example, so it makes him even more strange for defending the abuser in this case. I thought perhaps he was trying to push the narrative of a redemption arc, but he also describes the abuser as his 'friend', so perhaps it's as simple as that. Either way he clearly isn't practicing what he's preached before. Personally I don't want to live in a world where some abusers are allowed to get away with what they do, usually it's because they are rich or powerful, in this case it seems it's because the aforementioned Edwin is friend's with the abuser, but as you say perhaps he also identifies with them too. Often enough abusers will project onto other's.

[@VanessaMarieBooks]

@@lloroshastar6347 If Edwin said the abuser is his "friend" then it makes complete sense why he defended him even if it makes him look like a hypocrite. It still sucks and I think we can still hold "friends" accountable, but some people are just "ride or die" for their friends even if it means excusing bad behaviors. As for the "she's too mean" comment, women get that all the time when we're just being honest or assertive or standing up for what's right. That's why women bosses are more likely to be viewed as "mean bitches" than men. When men do the same thing, it's seen as assertive or something to be applauded/praised. And as for not wanting "to live in a world where some abusers are allowed to get away with what they do, usually it's because they are rich or powerful," unfortunately, that's the current world we live in. Many abusers, especially the rich/powerful, will never face any consequences for their actions. 😔

[@kingintern7566]

8 fake profiles total? Completely unhinged.

[@CatApocalypse]

It's been a month and I still feel so angry over this!! Having mental illness, neurodivergence, and an upbringing by emotionally immature parents, I can understand the insecurity and fixation on stuff, but none of that causes racism! Before I began the process of diagnosis and inner work, I'd lose control of my temper and it was only brief outbursts of yelling or saying selfish shit. I can't even imagine that heat-of-the-moment loss of control allowing for all the work of making puppet accounts and systematically trying to sabotage people. I can't speak to that particular cocktail of substances she claims to have mixed, but I don't see it leaving anyone in the state of mind to go through so much work; it sounds like too much work sober lmao. If she'd put all that effort into further promoting her own book or improving her craft, it would've gone so much better for her. All of this self-serving stuff since getting caught is so offensive to the people she targeted, other disabled & neurodivergent people, and even Matthew Perry 🙄🙄 Anyway, there's PARKOUR in y'all's heist book?? I know y'all will let us know when we can preorder! 😻

[@jimsbooksreadingandstuff]

It used to be we could retort to racist comments by asking " Have you taken your meds today?" Now it would seem that the meds are the problems, shouldn't the pharmaceutical companies list "racist actions" under the possible side effects? And if it isn't the drugs to blame, shouldn't said pharmaceutical companies be suing Ms Corrain for such defamatory statements?

[@JesseOnYoutube]

omg i forgot about the 'have u taken ur meds today thing' also a very loaded statement haha

[@spiriteduniverse5779]

I have ADHD and I am off the medication because I found a way to manage on my own but when I was on the medication it made me more focused and more aware (mine is severe ADHD and my awareness at times is not great, especially when I am excessively day dreaming). Not only that, it made me calm. To me, it felt like time slowed down. My thoughts weren't all over the place and all at once demanding my focus distracting me in different direction every second but instead I was able to focus on a thought at a time and push the others aside. So I am trying very hard to understand how this girl is claiming ADHD medication got her to do what she did...The medication either works or doesn't work - if it doesn't, nothing changes, and if it works it improves your neurological functioning and even improves your mental health, it did mine because ADHD can cause depression and other mental health issues like other learning difficulties can. The medication has side effects but none list acting out of character as being one other than becoming super withdrawn or quiet if the dosage is too high than what you may require. The methods these types of people conjure up to escape responsibility...Like, if it's that scary to take accountability for your actions how about then not committing those actions.

[@rudedrugs]

like, i get side effects. i understand and relate. i had a breakdown because i thought my friend was mad at me and ghosting me when i took adderall. it made me so anxious and self loathing. but i can't help but think everything they did was deeply seeded in racism and white victimization. like... the idea that my friends hate me is deeply seeded, so of course that would be enhanced by the adderall. but knowing that they had this elaborate plan to do all of this they clearly had a lot of jealousy issues already pre medication.

[@JesseOnYoutube]

thissssss.

[@smilegirl6429]

When I was on Adderall it made me really angry. I can't help but wonder if it had the same effect on Cait and she took it out on POC authors because she already resented them and the rage gave her the energy to systematically attack them.

[@metaphoricheart]

Thanks for making it closed captioning and not being stuck with the auto-captioning which is a complete disaster.

[@thegoblinsglen]

I'm 55 and I've seen it happen entirely too many times. I'm neurodivergent and I have never had my situation express as a racist db that opts to be intentionally and purposefully malicious to other artists and creators. Having a personal struggle is not justification for cruelty.

[@tyghe_bright]

I have a cat who gets in my face when I'm on work calls. She's definitely jealous when I focus on other people. I think, though, that there's more than just attention-seeking here with Akasha. She seems to be trying to distract y'all when you get really intense. It's similar to the behavior I've seen in emotional support dogs for vets with PTSD.

[@JesseOnYoutube]

we love a jealous cat haha

[@burymewithabook]

How about interview the authors that were affected by this instead? I struggle to see why this article was published.

[@JesseOnYoutube]

Literally

[@ColpixLuna]

came for the booktube commentary, subscribed for your upcoming books!

[@JesseOnYoutube]

Ahhhh omg are you serious?! Thank you!!!

[@jmariel6843]

I genuinely don’t understand what pressure she was talking about. She had everything so many people never get close to. Her book was also going to be featured in Illumicrate, or one of the other popular book boxes. What pressure?? Also, people need to stop blaming their shitty behavior on things like autism. Guess what? Autism doesn’t make people bitter and spiteful, but someone’s shitty personality does.

[@JesseOnYoutube]

THIS. the "pressure". WHAT!? ugh. pity.

[@JohnSaxon-vw5vi]

I can’t wait to get your amazing books 📚 and I can’t wait to read them both ❤❤❤

[@JesseOnYoutube]

Love u, John 😭

[@JohnSaxon-vw5vi]

@@JesseOnKZbin you have just bought me too tears as I really needed that and I love you and your mom as well ❤️❤️❤️

[@leishathanthou9161]

I got to read rm virtues's thread for the first time through this video (i also watched reads with rachel's coverage of this, she didnt want to put it in her video in case rm virtues changed his mind and decided to delete the thread etc) Im literally so upset, he didnt deserve to be put through this, meanwhile cait is still 100% only concerned with her own mental health and her own struggles, she is selfish AND racist AND jealous

[@JesseOnYoutube]

THOMAS 🤣

[@leishathanthou9161]

@@JesseOnKZbin who is thomas

[@KittyAndTheBooks]

Thanks for taking time out of y'all's life to talk about this. I am so privileged to live a life where news like this usually doesn't reach me. It's disgusting and y'all brought up so many great points to make that clear. The way GR handled it is also disappointing but not surprising unfortunately...

[@JesseOnYoutube]

we def need to talk about goodreads' consistent role in these situations

[@IshtarNike]

I have ADHD. I'd be really interested to know what the specific medication is. We can then actually check the side effects and see if racism is a listed side effect.

[@JesseOnYoutube]

Your icon photo is everything 😂

[@Rynnikins]

Time to look through all the authors attacked to find new reads.

[@KirstensKorner]

Such a well-done and well-spoken video ❤️

[@eleanorbwells]

Bruh. I have no sympathy whatsoever for this individual. She knew EXACTLY what she was doing.

[@JesseOnYoutube]

😂

[@sophiebear2248]

Great Video, your input on this situation was good! Robbin' Hood sounds really interesting ill have to look out for it when it comes out!

[@JesseOnYoutube]

Thank you Sophie!!!!!

[@ieishah]

she did it "against her will"

[@smilegirl6429]

I've been on Adderall before and it turned me into a rage filled human being. But even if it had that effect on her, that rage could not become calculated malice against POC unless she already had it and wanted to do something with it. Mindless rage doesn't make you plan sabotage.

[@JesseOnYoutube]

the things that come up inside of us when we are angry are a reflection of who were are/who we don't want to be. that can be difficult to sit with. i hope they're able to sit with WHY that came up out of themselves and to work on that

[@MrRorosuri]

i'm not even surprised anymore

[@Jodie_Tea]

I can't afford patron at the moment honestly too many people I want to be a patron off but I'm really looking forward to reading your books they sound really interesting and something I would love.

[@Heynowwtf7413]

Also sorry to y’all but Akasha is the main character I spent the whole video (listening to y’all ofc bc y’all’s brain✨✨✨✨) trying to spot her 😭🐶 a baby

[@Read-alert]

This was a great video, y'all brought up so many points I haven't seen in other discussions of the situation. And y'all's books sound amazing! Just FYI though, Xiran Jay Zhao uses they/them

[@JesseOnYoutube]

Thank you! Truly appreciate it. We only used they them for Xiran, if we used another pronoun then we weren't referencing them :)

[@JesseOnYoutube]

Oh but pls drop a time stamp below so we can triple check ourselves. We did a watch through after completing editing to make sure we hadn't misgendered anyone so we're mad happy to check again!

[@Read-alert]

​@@JesseOnKZbinI rewatched the bit I was thinking of and it looks like I misheard it the first time. Sorry about that!

[@MissUnderstoodasAlways]

Great video 💕

[@JesseOnYoutube]

Thank you. Love ur handle btw :)

[@MissUnderstoodasAlways]

@@JesseOnKZbin ah thank you so much! New subscriber 💫

[@stormeyedselkie]

I don't understand how someone can be bigoted!? I love and respect everyone of all races, genders and orientations UNLESS they are a bad person, as I was raised to do so! It honestly confuses me, it's not that difficult to be respectful of people.

[@BookNerd-Maggie22]

Yep, 100 percent. If she really wanted to apologize she would have actually apologized and said she was going to actually accept the consequences of her actions. Also if she were willing to put in the work to actually being anti-racist, that would be great. I doubt she would be willing to do that, she seems pretty cocky.

[@JesseOnYoutube]

cocky is such a good word for this type of behavior.

[@Quettasbedhead]

Insert" instead of an apology write a check"

[@JesseOnYoutube]

HAHAHA

[@immaculateorganicsoaps3533]

Random House will be publishing her book in 2027, will she review bomb again? We will see.

[@andeeharry]

This is just terrible on all levels, the communities have a hard time in this world and she just does this. This makes me angry

[@corvo9100]

What was the name of the book that broke you in high school? I wanna read it but I couldn’t hear the title very well ;-;

[@ladivasobougie706]

Sooo a medical cocktail is to blame. That’s new. 🤨

[@kandy4069]

during black history month too 😅 ??????

[@JayGTheAwkwardBookworm]

I didn’t hear about this but it is WILDDD 👀

[@JesseOnYoutube]

isnt it weird that we might not hear about something that's everywhere? also had NO idea this was happening and that this drama has been unfolding for many months lmao

[@asavagegarden]

reads with rachel read an ARC of cait's book and its was VERY BAD too. like dude, pick a struggle. also RM virtues thread was heartbreaking... he is an indie black author targeted just because he writes greek retellings. cait should be shunned and shooed from everywhere if they try to make an author carreer again, this was not a mistake... this was planned and abusive.

[@JesseOnYoutube]

All of this 💗

[@JohnSaxon-vw5vi]

Jesse I am really SORRY for not watching your last few videos your puppy 🐶 is looking so beautiful as always how is your mom doing hope she is doing well prayers and blessings to you and your beautiful puppy 🐶 and your mom love your Aussie family friend and supporter John ❤❤❤totally understand and agree with you 100 percent about this raciest woman totally agree with you and your comment about being thrown under the bus for your colour

[@JesseOnYoutube]

It was just Mamà's bday!!!!! She's doing great :) Akasha is so well. Lots of her in the upcoming Blackathon vlog :)

[@JohnSaxon-vw5vi]

@@JesseOnKZbin looking forward to seeing it

[@riv8761]

I think this is Akasha's channel now, based on the first minute of the video!

[@JesseOnYoutube]

Literally

[@louisachalarca6494]

My adhd meds never make you do anything idk my lifetime on them and switching different types leads me to believe “all” as in mostly all they do is assist with impulse control

[@mcclorei9]

I swear the book community, which is supposed to be welcoming, is so toxic. I try not to look at people online activities when looking into their books and I’m beginning to ignore ratings. BIPOC books are the least reviewed and now I know the reviews can’t be trusted.

[@JesseOnYoutube]

It definitely can be. It's often a matter of finding your people, reviewers you vibe with, but it can be ... discouraging

[@mikalareads]

Excellent video Jesse 👏💯

[@JesseOnYoutube]

Thank u Mikala!

[@PennyCon]

👀 wow! This shit is too much at this point. 😢

[@JesseOnYoutube]

Lmao!

[@lajourdanne]

Thumbs up for your exacerbated dog ❤

[@Imawatcheronhere]

Idk man, I want to know what posessed someone to hurt ppl. Like, explainations aren't justifications. In the case of this Cait person tho, she's definitely just tryna excuse themself

[@AdelaideKey]

That woman is the worst. She did all of this and got handed the find out portion of life. She was dropped by her agent, publisher and book box contract in rapid succession. No one wants her apology, fade into obscurity please and thank you. I have a copy of the ARC for her book and the premise was interesting, it will now sit unread because she pulled the big dumb.