Boy Scouts Order Of The Arrow 2017

July 5, 2017

[@KirbSyde-vf4cf]

Longhorn Council, Troop 86, Eagle Scout '97, Order of the Arrow. The best times of my life. NISHKIN HALUP A PE LACHI

[@EllaCBWalkersSpokeswoman]

I'm native american - Mayan from the running turtle clan.... I am pissed

[@imyourdad7888]

Why sir

[@bricethompson1922]

These ceremonies and the whole native American lore in the oa was created by native Americans

[@EllaCBWalkersSpokeswoman]

@@bricethompson1922 no they were not..... I'm 40% North American and Central American Native American, 30% Iberian and 20% Sub-Saharan African

[@EllaCBWalkersSpokeswoman]

@@bricethompson1922 also it's nice to see you respond over a YEAR after I posted

[@OiVjEGAz]

​@@EllaCBWalkersSpokeswomanyou would not even be calling yourself a Native American if you knew what Nativism is. The Native American term came from The Know-Nothing Political Party that was the third largest Party during the time of the Democrats and Whigs.

[@marywade632]

I'm sharing this so the Kiowas can see this, I'm sure you will be found!

[@MasterSplinter931]

if you think the offended are just 'whiners' 'sjws' or 'oversensitive' lemme give ya an idea of how its disrespectful: imagine some non-catholics doing their own 'version' of the holy mass complete w robes, altar and.. instead of hosts and wine, they serve cookies n punch

[@bricethompson1922]

That sounds like a way better mass, also the native American lore in the OA was created by native Americans

[@Conundrummy]

Right there with ya brotha. I lived on the reservation Mandan Hidatsa and Arika tribes for a couple years and seeing this shit makes me really sad. I couldn’t even fathom showing this much disrespect to those peoples…bSA really likes to play fast and loose with native iconography religious customs and their own versions of powwows… it’s all just a slap in the face for most natives today…

[@firelordzuko7822]

“Be Prepared “

[@louiscamacho3457]

I was in the order of the arrow in Pico Rivera 1980. Our Chief was Tom Price the third. 100% Native American

[@OiVjEGAz]

Yes, Native American. Not Indian or Indigenous.

[@jaredtaylor8083]

I’m surprised this lodge is still doing face paint. Thats not okay! That is a national OA policy. Face paint is not allowed! If national catches wind of this they can pull your charter and pull the plug on your lodge.

[@imyourdad7888]

No national knows there wahissa lodge they allow it cause the lodge are close with native americans around there

[@wydxynk]

this was also 5 years ago idiot

[@rong1924]

I'm a pretty conservative white guy, but, yeah, that is some pretty hamfisted cultural appropriation going on there. Time for a change. There is plenty of room for calling out respect for native American tradition without playing "Indian Chief, Woowoowoowooo"

[@kodayapi]

This should be removed. It has Indigenous elements that the Order no longer uses or condones. If this is actually 2017 face painting was banned long before this. This video gives a distorted view of the Order of the Arrow.

[@quakingleaf]

Argh. Not okay. I understand the intent, but it comes off as inauthentic mockery.

[@theauntiehunter0554]

I am native American Lakota Sioux if I see anything like this just make sure your wearing bullet proof suits

[@mikerichards7515]

You already lost, time to eat shit

[@NdkDeSmet]

I've heard they still do this racist shit SMH, I'm mixed Sicangu Lakota and this is disgusting.

[@imyourdad7888]

Yall it is not racist the guy who made the order is native american maybe stick your head out of your ass and learn

[@imyourdad7888]

Im an oa member there is nothing about it

[@mikerichards7515]

As a boy scout I say eat shit, we own it now

[@wydxynk]

blud doesnt know what racism is

[@marywade632]

This is so ridiculous, the songs this drum is singing are Kiowa songs and I know the Kiowas would never give permission to boy scouts, this has nothing to do with honoring any Native American tribes, we keep the whites out of our traditions!

[@wydxynk]

reverse racism

[@MRBLT105]

This has got to be racist

[@niswarlee6192]

Wow......the disrespect 😤😒😡🤬

[@wydxynk]

shush

[@ancientoakgrove]

lmfao almost none of this has anything to do with actual Native American traditions. How about bringing in some real Natives to share and teach about their cultures? without actual Native input it's not authentic or real and much of that is down right offensive.

[@ihcf3046]

I can understand where you are coming from, but when you actually go through the initiation, it makes a lot more sense. It would be better to have native Americans, but the ceremony is largely based on native american lifestyles. When I did it (my personal experience) they clearly stated that they had the blessing of the Occaneechi tribe of NC, which is federally recognized, to do these ceremonies.

[@matthewhecht6974]

ancientoakgrove These ceremonies are based off of the traditions of the Lenne Lenape tribes and are respectful. The regalia worn is not to be offensive, but to be traditionally and historically accurate. In fact, I say it is downright stupid and idiotic to claim that something so true to tradition and history is offensive. The ceremonies are done to also unite brothers in the OA and show brotherhood much like the Lenne Lenape did. Although, I do agree that it would be cooler to have some natives speak, but the Scouts is boy lead and this includes the OA.

[@wampum5807]

Yall dont know shit about my people and traditions. We didnt wear costume regalias. These niggas wearing warbonnets and shit. In reality no kid would wear a war bonnet. Yall dont know nothing about the culture or traditions of my people. Oh and for your info the Occanechi tribe isnt federal.

[@theloudduramax]

ancientoakgrove TR the oa is about PRESERVING THE TRADITIONS.

[@theloudduramax]

wam pum literally shut the fuck up, the oa preserves the traditions, that's why we do this.

[@Duelingwolves85]

Shame! Shame! Shame! *Rings bell* cmon smarten up. this kind of activity is never ok. Its appropriation not honoring. Can keep telling yourself that but let's see yall do do blackface and dance around honoring African Americans down there. Im sure that go over well in the city. So many more examples but why bother? Also if a "tribe" gave permission it's sad....colonized they are...assimilation at its finest.

[@taiyou385]

Not that its much of a consultation, but they absolutely should not have been in face paint. Face paint has specifically not been allowed in the OA for 20+ years.

[@fredmatthews8704]

Bullshit. What self-respecting indigenous nation would allow the very people who tried to exterminate them use their ceremony and dances? This is cile.

[@mikerichards7515]

We were dressing up like Japanese school girls got everyone pissed so we started dressing up like American Indians

[@rfi-cryptolab4251]

I'm surprised the indigenous aren't whining and protesting this. Seems they and others are always finding something new to be offended by.

[@robbiebass7789]

@NRG208, first off the Boy Scouts aren’t preserving anything. A quick google/youtube search will show you what I’m talking about. Secondly, a VERY small minority of indigenous people have offered their support and blessing to the Scouts. However, they do not speak for a lot of individuals or tribes.

[@mstalcup]

Paradoxically, we often see that it is the privileged who are always finding something new to be offended by. This makes sense when we consider what happens to spoiled brats accustomed to getting their way.

[@Bubba2133]

Well shit if you understand why we get mad umm look at how they're mocking and making us look like a stereotypes.... If you want to learn go to an actual pow wow....

[@mikerichards7515]

The indigenous people are not complaining it's all the other fairies