I like the thought process of "I'll have her play Pokemon...no, wait, she might enjoy that. I'll have her play a Nuzlocke."
@Hadesheart-nn3nd Жыл бұрын
It was at 69, I didn't want to disturb that
@ItsWindHere Жыл бұрын
@@Hadesheart-nn3nd I gotchu bro, you can like it now
@yeahkeen2905 Жыл бұрын
@@Hadesheart-nn3nd now it’s at 169
@joshuajohnson7079 Жыл бұрын
@yeahkeen2905 now it's 309
@cephon6198 Жыл бұрын
No, it's MADE her play Pokémon... So there's an element of coercion? Is there a penalty for not playing Pokémon? A punishment? Is it blackmail, perhaps? Blink twice if you need help, girlfriend!
@xmgaming2444 Жыл бұрын
Can we take a moment to appreciate that the venusaur still knew tackle at the end of the game
@emkalina Жыл бұрын
tbh, if you are not teaching it tms or cut what it's supposed to have? its movepool is really bad in the early gens
@xmgaming2444 Жыл бұрын
@@emkalina If a pokemon ends up on your final team, I think it's pretty reasonable to teach it some tms
@calamorta Жыл бұрын
@@emkalina Leech Seed Poison Powder Sleep Powder Synthesis/Razor Leaf/Vine Whip// I know that everything works offline, but there are so many interesting moves other than tackle. Pretty sure you can also teach it Strength in case you don't want to waste TMs. But tbh, she already had Nidoking for poisoning. Maybe tackle was indeed the only option.
@geodude671 Жыл бұрын
I usually put Strength on my starter and keep it there until the end of the game.
@erintempleton1342 Жыл бұрын
Dude my first game was alpha sappire and I played it so much that my blaziken, toasty, was level 100 and still knew ember and peck and double kick.
@619Slipk Жыл бұрын
Bug eats grass, bird eat bug and then we throw rocks at them Oh yes, the food chain. Exactly how I remember
@briangruenewald7536 Жыл бұрын
And so, we are all connected in the great circle of life
@Preprogrammedpatsy7 ай бұрын
I gotta say I’ve watched all of these now but I really wish you’d go through the elite four battles individually. Love the content though keep it up!
@beyondawesomegaming35174 ай бұрын
To be fair I always remembered that rock beats flying due to the “2 birds 1 stone” saying
@emmanness3 ай бұрын
@@beyondawesomegaming3517 same
@Bludiamond_Titanium2 ай бұрын
@@beyondawesomegaming3517I personally used the phrase “If you hit a bird with a brick, it’ll stop moving.”
@rpen6981 Жыл бұрын
I think i would really enjoy an hour long vid of these two learning the type matchup and trying to justify them
@MITOCHONDRlA Жыл бұрын
My favorite explanation for type matchup has to be a psychic type weaknesses. Psychic is weak to Bug, Dark, and Ghost because people are afraid of Bugs, Darkness, and Ghosts.
@CarbonKnight9 Жыл бұрын
I personally love 'if you're afraid of the dark... punch it.'
@ThatReplyGuy Жыл бұрын
Why is poison weak to psychic or dark weak to fighting?
@MITOCHONDRlA Жыл бұрын
@@ThatReplyGuy Meditation can heal poison. Dark types use underhanded tricks, Proper Fighting Technique beats unfair fighters.
@pengwin9 Жыл бұрын
The first is "smart man knows cure to poison" and the latter is "training and discipline triumphs over the bad guys dirty tricks"
@Blons42 Жыл бұрын
You guys should do a soul link date night for another Pokémon game That would be very fun to watch
@randomviewer396 Жыл бұрын
Seconded
@alkv7604 Жыл бұрын
@@randomviewer396 Thirded
@lightningaw1581 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a soul link as well they are so much fun to play
@Zenniiiiiii Жыл бұрын
@@alkv7604 Fourtheth
@hussainalaiwi9270 Жыл бұрын
@@Zenniiiiiii fifth
@spideymenz5738 Жыл бұрын
She actually beat a Nuzlocke as her first time experience with a Pokémon game? Damn, even if she used items, that’s respect.
@PVPTawa Жыл бұрын
Duh, with switch mode.
@spideymenz5738 Жыл бұрын
@@PVPTawa nobody asked you to go “um actually 🤓” an yet here you are looking like a clown
@JayceCH. Жыл бұрын
Ots Pokemon guys. Lets not lose our minds here.😅
@luckerooni1153 Жыл бұрын
@@JayceCH. Pokemon is an easy game if you have the knowledge and no restrictions but playing it as a Nuzlocke and learning as you go is actually kind of difficult.
@hazeltree773811 ай бұрын
@@JayceCH. *A first timer to pokemon playing what is essentially pokemon's hard mode But yeah it's basically just pokemon
@SeanicalMan Жыл бұрын
The fact Baby Bok still had Tackle at the elite four is baffling to me.
@kyotanaka920 Жыл бұрын
What if she ran into a normal type? Gotta have something for them.
@Ash-Hole2000lmao Жыл бұрын
@@kyotanaka920 strength or sludge bomb are much better
@your.mom69395 Жыл бұрын
Maybe it was to make catching easier
@rubemevangelista3868 Жыл бұрын
That's the sass. Gotta disrespect Green, right?
@greilthelegendaryhero252 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of my 1st playthrough. I eventually had a lvl 100 venusaur (post game) with the moves, razerleaf, solarbeam, cut, and... tackle
@thesheepylord8744 Жыл бұрын
"You're lucky you can even be a girl" I laughed so hard at that
@MoonIitStroll Жыл бұрын
It's actually hilarious that she named Blue after you, I'm so glad she had no idea he'd be the Champion.
@huggernautsux Жыл бұрын
I'd honestly watch a whole series of this, it was adorable
@hussainalaiwi9270 Жыл бұрын
Ok so bug rississt fighting why
@theknightwithabadpictotall7639 Жыл бұрын
@@hussainalaiwi9270 Have you ever tried punching a fly
@dowfreak7 Жыл бұрын
@@hussainalaiwi9270 There's lots of weird stuff with the typing, that's kinda based not just in "logic" but also in myths and urban legends and shit. Like rocks taking down birds is a simple image, but then you get more "fun" ideas like psychics/espers being afraid of bugs and ghosts. With the bug/fighting interaction you can take it both ways. Either the logical way: Exoskeleton shields them from a lot of blunt force or the more out there explanation that you'd need finesse over brawn to squash a bug.
@hussainalaiwi9270 Жыл бұрын
@@dowfreak7 rock/flying interaction you can kill two birds with one stone Psychics three weakness are all commen fears bug Gost and dark
@RockR277 Жыл бұрын
I'm impressed how well she did against the elite 4 with her mons mostly low 50s
@calamorta Жыл бұрын
First time I played this game I had an overleveled Charizard (with 4 fire type moves), Zapdos and Snorlax, and still struggled to beat without running out of PP.
@rubemevangelista3868 Жыл бұрын
I got destroyed by Lorelei around that lv
@Kirk-36Moshpit7 ай бұрын
1). That Paper-to-Plant (Grass) analogy blew my mind 2). Noicky sending out the evolved form of Finch first was FOUL
@yaelmurillo1863 Жыл бұрын
Never forget Nito’s heroic sacrifice. They’ll live on in our hearts.
@tdarassp Жыл бұрын
They still made it to the Hall of Fame, so they can rest on the farm knowing they're a champion.
@Graphaeli6 ай бұрын
@@tdarassp He. Nidoking is male, hence "king" and Nidoran (male).
@tdarassp6 ай бұрын
@Graphaeli that's crazy, bro. Friendly reminder, it's a fictional video game thing and no one gives a shit.
@skyerussell41566 ай бұрын
@@Graphaeli hey look at all the zero people who give a shit
@CadDriftarus5 ай бұрын
@@Graphaeli Considering obviously male pokemon are strictly referred to "it" all the time in all forms of Pokemedia, I don't think it really matters lol As for me I just refer to my mons as their hender(provided I can remember on a whim) and non-gendered pokemon as "they." The series has always hammered in that Pokemon are invredibly sentient creatures with wants and desires, so only referring to the crew as a bunch of "its" put me off even as a kid who didn't know what I was doing lol
@MalevolentMinun Жыл бұрын
The sniffles when she had to deposit Pidgeotto and Diglett, my heart! This was such an immensely wholesome experience and I would adore more Pokémon content featuring the both of you, your partner is a Treasure and needs to be protected 💔😭 Honestly for a first FireRed playthrough, she did FANTASTIC and the reasoning for why Grass and PAPER beats Rock because they're made from plants, killed me 😆
@xavier5987 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, using the starter only, truly a mark of a real 10 year old trainer. Not gonna lie, having a nuzlocke be the first introduction to the series seemed a bit devilish at first, but it proved to be a great teaching method
@Allen_101 Жыл бұрын
I want Taryn to play one of the Sonic Adventure Games. Seeing her play around in the Chao Garden would be fun.
@PaladinGear15 Жыл бұрын
She'd never leave xD
@ZeroTheHeartlessKing Жыл бұрын
@@PaladinGear15 maybe if she plays it, she can complain to sega enough to get us chao garden's back lol
@keystep8669 Жыл бұрын
Actually the best idea ever lol
@UltimateSpinDash Жыл бұрын
Adventure 1 & 2 followed by P06?
@Americanbadashh Жыл бұрын
@@ZeroTheHeartlessKing If "poglings" is successful maybe that will get Sega to make one too
@vitogunnhilder Жыл бұрын
Anyone else find it hilarious how whenever she runs to the PC, she’s just screeching, announcing her retreat and inevitable return to the battle?
@cupramyun8204 Жыл бұрын
6:00 bro that is true. I learned type match up as a child and now I just have it memorized for no reason. Like I remember the Pokédex better than the multiplication table
@CadDriftarus5 ай бұрын
There was an article that came out a few years ago that stated kids who grew up with pokemon developed memorizational skills differently than other people. Whether it's true or not is up for grabs, but I can definitely remember the damage percentage of a Shuckle with Rollout better than I can remember sinple daily tasks 💀
@TheGoldenJay637 Жыл бұрын
Damn that was actually a really good freaking team for a newcomer to the series, especially for fire red/leaf green! Good job, Taryn!
@CaptHayfever Жыл бұрын
And especially since under Nuzlocke rules, a lot of your team is luck-based.
@emkalina Жыл бұрын
that'd be a great team for a casual playthrough tbh
@chefgrizz6284 Жыл бұрын
@@CaptHayfever I mean it’s not really that random in gen 1 if you play with species clause
@bernsbruce2340 Жыл бұрын
That casual walk past the Indigo Plateau PokeMart made me laugh so hard, knowing she was underleveled lol
@julianemery718 Жыл бұрын
It really took me aback how many levels lower she was. I don't think it exceeded ten but damn she was close.
@HeWhoLaugths Жыл бұрын
Can we all just appreciate for a moment that she beat this first try
@lobsterman2727 Жыл бұрын
Considering how attached she got with the Pokemon and her reaction to losing them, I would love to see her reaction to Pyre
@harryplatipus4303 Жыл бұрын
never expected a fire red playthrough let alone a nuzlocke on this channel but a welcome surprise.
@afroteddybear Жыл бұрын
Nuzlocked on her first playthrough? Nick, you're a monster. I love it!
@adlez47 Жыл бұрын
Congrats on your first nuzlocke victory! You did amazing for someone basically new to the series!
@TheCatgirlGaymer Жыл бұрын
Given her experience with the souls games and now her new intro to permanent death, I wonder how Girlfriend would fare in the Darkest Dungeon.
@erivida64 Жыл бұрын
Diamond pearl and platinum were my favorite, especially since they implemented the special and physical attacks split, which made some pokemon much more viable.
@chefgrizz6284 Жыл бұрын
Killed my boy sceptile 😢
@sanfransiscon Жыл бұрын
I'll never forget how useful the in-game guide was to me, since FireRed was the first video game I ever owned. This game taught me a lot about how games work lol
@sopranophantomista Жыл бұрын
Girlfriend *is* evolving, though! It's always so fun to see her branch out and be open to new experiences. Even if those experiences aren't for her, I'm still glad she tries them out. Experimentation is everything in life, and it seems that she has a good handle of rolling with the punches. RIP Finch tho, he was good boy.
@faithagainstthegrain9 ай бұрын
The crying while putting her first fainted mons in “The Farm” is an emotion I’m all too familiar with
@bobyhappy2992 Жыл бұрын
damn she managed to go through without the need to restart ? Tarny is the best 😎 my first nuzlocke I cheated...and I died x)
@Searreality9 ай бұрын
“… but it sure is a funny way to do it” is the perfect justification for just about anything.
@-nav-398 Жыл бұрын
10:04 "Overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer." Also, darkest dungeon 2 is now out if you want to take a look.
@anusaukko6792 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see her play even more Pokemon games, I think she'd enjoy the varied environments and stories of each with enough familiarity to be grasped quickly (every game being about an evil team whose goals differ, champion fight, rival fight etc)
@cee_ves Жыл бұрын
Your ‘dead’ Pokémon are just so dramatic they dramatically fell over and refuse to get up, and forever chant “oh woe is me” and “tell my mother I love her” in the box
@dragonix8527 Жыл бұрын
I would watch an entire video of you two discussing the type strengths and weaknesses. That was the best part of this.
@dowfreak7 Жыл бұрын
I was kinda hoping she'd comment on the absolutely bonkers music at some point. Music's always been kind of a great part of the Pokemon games and the insane drum shenanigans during the elite four battles are just such a great way to pump you up. I mean you single those drums out and you could fit them in a death metal track. Only thing I can hope for now is that we get a continuation, where she not only gets introduced to the fairy type, but also to the fact that attacks aren't just "fire", but also physical/special now. But for now I can only say congratulations. First nuzlocke can be tough, but she got through with surprisingly few losses and swept the elite four easily.
@itrashcant7947 Жыл бұрын
This makes me wanna see her play Pokémon DP/Platinum just so she can hear the piano intro for Cynthia.
@riveraluciano Жыл бұрын
Damn, pushing her through a Nuzlocke was great. We used to play with friends where we would sync up our pokemon (if my first dies, so do my friend's first), it was absolute chaos and forced us to really push hard.
@nofilterneito Жыл бұрын
That’s called a Soul Link just so you know. Honestly such a brutal version of a Nuzlocke too; did one for BW that was pain
@itrashcant7947 Жыл бұрын
I did that too but with USUM and with my brother and with a randomizer. I got Kyurem as my starter but got screwed when the 1st Kahuna sent out Mega Diancie. We were so sad, because Kyurem died so my brother’s Mew got booted.
@deathtrapsnap Жыл бұрын
Idk if it helps her confidence to hear, but the way she works out the typings (bugs eat grass, birds eat bugs, birds die to rocks etc) is exactly how i remember them too. Mind over body = psychic beats fighting. I can fight sleep = fighting beats dark, muscle men crush rocks etc etc. You get the idea. Its extremely important to remember however best you can. And honestly logic can take you a long way in guess work (most of the time).
@omegashots59 Жыл бұрын
Just binged all the vids in this channel a couple days ago and happy to see that Pokemon is the newest one hehe ❤
@marcglendinning Жыл бұрын
I’ve been seeing someone for 2 months in a dating context (we’ve known each other for about 5 years or so). I’m currently playing Resident Evil: Village since he’s a fan of the series and I’m hoping to get him to do a Soul Link or Nuzlocke of a Pokémon game. Watching this video was too cute and really got me excited about the prospect of introducing someone I care about to a series that means a lot to me- keep up the great work guys! :)
@andrewfox5663 Жыл бұрын
I stumbled on this video through my recommendeds, and I’m SO glad I did. I enjoyed it so much that I binged through all the other “Made My Girlfriend Play” videos in a day, and they didn’t disappoint. The dynamic between you two is so playful and positive, and it’s a breath of fresh air!
@simoneluciani7063 Жыл бұрын
17:17 that's actually a pretty smart way to memorize it, there are some weird unexplainable match ups, like poison fighting interactions and other one way advantages/disadvantages, but that's still a solid way to face it
@HeroofMightandmagic1 Жыл бұрын
This is honestly a playthrough I could sit and watch the entirety of, like the old tfs nuzlockes
@moonmakes Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the learning of the different types haha, I do the same thing she does! I always had the logic of "bug eats grass, bird eats bug, throw rocks at birds" in my mind as well. I've been playing pokemon since the beginning - I've played one of each mainline generation game, up to Scarlet/Violet as of recent. I still only remember half the type matchups at most. Sometimes its more fun to catch and level your friends than pushing all that battle info into your brain.
@myarmfell0ff Жыл бұрын
Man, this was awesome 😅 Your girl's reactions to the story was really innocent and made it so pleasant to watch. You just earned a new subscriber.
@charizardfan1017 Жыл бұрын
Finally, this is the video I've been waiting for Edit: You're evil for making it a nuzlocke
@alkv7604 Жыл бұрын
Pokemon is my favorite games! Im so happy she's playing! I hope she enjoys it and plays more in the future
@AlmightyNorppa Жыл бұрын
Nuzlocke against Red was super fun. Totally didn't lose my sanity.
@brandoncaksackkar9450 Жыл бұрын
Ok im sorry but watching her play was like rewatching my journey we had similar teams and everything i felt so much joy watching this
@TheRickinger Жыл бұрын
and now do all of the other generations :D that was amazing to watch and i would really love to see more
@Danchamp07 Жыл бұрын
I remember rock beats flying with the expression 'two birds with one stone'.
@ViktorErikFade7 ай бұрын
11:42 STOP IM GONNA CRY a nuzlocke is SUCH a brutal introduction to pokemon for a newcomer 😢
@lightningaw1581 Жыл бұрын
This was such a fun and cute video, i would love to see more pokemon especially for a date night.
@Anonymous-wt6ii Жыл бұрын
Just when i thought its another wholesome video, *finch dies*. But wow, i gotta say, her team is actually not bad. Quite balanced. Theres the support, speedster, ones that hit hard and etc.
@RayramAureanBlue Жыл бұрын
Sushi the special defence tank as well.
@jammintoy2876 Жыл бұрын
I feel like every week the video has more “EEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!” Great work as always!
@briangruenewald7536 Жыл бұрын
*EEEEEEEEEEE!!!*
@3godzilla3 Жыл бұрын
This style of using ANIMAL CROSSING to represent yourself and someone else is the most precious thing ever. ❤ Edit: She also made the right starter choice, BASED
@PRORAGEGUY Жыл бұрын
still waiting for "making my girlfriend plays WH40K: Spacemarine" episode
@dridda91177 ай бұрын
the sniffles when putting the dead pokemon in the pc lmao emotional damage
@Suikage9 ай бұрын
Wonderful video, I absolutely loved every moment! I just wish it was longer. I would have loved to see all the pokemon she caught or failed to catch. I would have easily watched an hour or two video of this
@alexanderjamesaustin Жыл бұрын
This is the perfect setup for a SoulLink Date Night
@goosecubes Жыл бұрын
I played red when I was kid. Loved playing it. This was very nostalgic for me. Thank you. I could feel the pain when she had to place her Pokemon in the farm. Great video!!! Awesome job on completing your first pokemon game 👍
@ChrisVillagomez2 ай бұрын
It is a bit crazy to think about how even as a little kid, I had a general gist of type weaknesses overall (I first played Pokemon Firered when I was like 5 so I had an early start but still)
@jygglypuffdaddy9 ай бұрын
this is so much fun but ngl I wish we could have gotten a lot MORE of her playthrough. I kept seeing hints of really cute and fun stuff in the video footage and I would have loved to hear more about and see more of her making her way through the various gyms and dungeons and her process for choosing moves and her team! def gonna watch the other videos with gen 2 and 3 right now!
@dawntodusk890311 ай бұрын
I loved that xP “bugs eat the grass, birds eat the bugs, we throw rocks at the birds” 😂
@anilef2791 Жыл бұрын
The fact that she genuinely cried over losing Finch was quite heartbreaking
@shuukenji6585 Жыл бұрын
*"You thought you're going to be the next Pokemon Master... BUT IT WAS ME! NOICKY!"*
@aurahoneydew9607 Жыл бұрын
the first encounter rule is one I can't get behind in Pokemon Nuz. Catching what makes pokemon pokemon. It's like a hamburger with nothing between the buns or house without furniture.
@lostsauce911 Жыл бұрын
I’d enjoy you two doing a full play through of silver and gold
@zara-uv1kp Жыл бұрын
i’m so excited i recommend this in the discord but can tell the video has been in progress for awhile!
@joeylankhorst4638 Жыл бұрын
this made me cry, i would love to have a girlfriend and experience this with her. her reactions were so cute! great video!
@Sogazu Жыл бұрын
This was by far the best episode of the series for me.
@isaac71529 ай бұрын
NOT THE SNIFFLES WHILE DEPOSITING THE DEAD MONS LMAO SHES TOO CUTE
@wolpes1 Жыл бұрын
When she got to be the Pokemon Master and said "It's my team!... and my family" I freaking sobbed. Thank you guys for sharing this with us!
@shadowjoker285 Жыл бұрын
LET'S GGGGOOOOOOOOO!!! gonna have to watch later, but can't wait to see it
@frkcybtw Жыл бұрын
Loved seeing the movesets for the E4! Electrode with Spark and Swift, as well as Venasaur with Tackle. We really optimize these games way too much, it was refreshing watching someone brand new play the game.
@JustTheJames Жыл бұрын
I've been back binging Nuzloke content on KZbin over the last couple of days so to see you two upload this video is a very happy coincidence :D
@procow2274 Жыл бұрын
I actually didn't know about that twist at the end
@zabers5818 Жыл бұрын
This is making me feel so nostalgic. Pokemon was one of the first games i ever played and the joy and experience owning my first console is and will always be one of my greatest memories. I hope to one day share that joy with my nephews and future children.
@jayd.doubledubs Жыл бұрын
I love the name "Heck Hound" so much And I'm honestly shocked she didn't lose more pokemon to Alakazam; Tarny is pretty good at teambuilding
@goldenhawk7800 Жыл бұрын
Got this in my recommended last week and just finished watching every single one of your videos. I require more!
@i-spytv Жыл бұрын
I got super hyped seeing the finishing hit to the Charizard!!
@ijustsawthat Жыл бұрын
"they went to live on a farm" It's been years since I heard about that mythical pet land.
@fruitpunchsamuraidavid Жыл бұрын
This was such a fun video!!! Watching someone learn the game anew is so enjoyable. Also i love how committed to the bit you are, you left her with some questionable moveset for the E4
@theoriginalfluff5317 Жыл бұрын
figuring out the pokemon type advantages was fucking great
@calmgentleman Жыл бұрын
Seeing someone with their sweet innocense coming into a franchise you know a lot about is so cute and interesting.
@MasonOfLife Жыл бұрын
I totally relate to the walking and not running style, especially when going forward I gotta go slow to survey the new environment I’m in, take it in Can’t rush too fast into the unknown! Plus it helps savour the experience
@deathwatcher19 Жыл бұрын
The little snuffles as she boxes the dead Pokémon in a box called “a farm” 😂😊
@briangruenewald7536 Жыл бұрын
Pepperidge Farms remembers
@spartan-208 Жыл бұрын
Also another interesting thing to note is that FireRed/LeafGreen are the last Pokemon games before the type changes and Physical/Special split so FRLG are their own unique beast that many a Nuzlocker love to challenge, great video and congratulations on the Girlfriend beating her first Nuzlocke 👍
@EchoTheGayOne Жыл бұрын
damn, that final team is unironically really good
@Savesum Жыл бұрын
Since discovering this channel i have been watching u guys non stop hope to some day have a relationship like you two titans
@JackitK Жыл бұрын
Was gonna give you a hard time for making someones "first" Pokemon experience a Nuzlocke, but then i remember this was also the channel you made her play Dark Souls. Glad it all worked out in the end though.
@Werddrewtv Жыл бұрын
I'd really like to see an Outlast Trials date night. It's really fun with friends.
@lmGoldyy Жыл бұрын
Did not expect this! But what an amazing surpirse, very entertaining :)
@bandy-sk5889 Жыл бұрын
Probably the one time I was actually interested to see the end result of a nuzlocke because there was no previous knowledge of the game
@zakfuji6303 Жыл бұрын
I'm impressed how quickly she picked it up. Great video!
@jeremyl2728 Жыл бұрын
Fire was my first pokemon game and one of my favs! I'm psyched for this vid lol
@Infernal_Sniper Жыл бұрын
Died laughing that you renamed the box to a farm. Great video, cant wait to see a follow up to this someday.
@thewingedserpent5823 Жыл бұрын
to this day the firered/leafgreen champion OST is my favorite of all the pokemon games
@hyruled3g Жыл бұрын
Nah bro making her play a nuzlocke for her first game ever is just downright cruel and unusual punishment