Beware of the hidden flaw in BPS DBK Bushmates Knife

In this video, I uncover a hidden flaw in the BPS DBK Bushmates knife. If you're into bushcraft, you'll want to know about this potential issue!
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[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

Thank you for the kind words and feedback! We appreciate it. As for bark river. We pointed out the QC issues in a few videos but i too sometimes fesr we get a selected knife. For this reason i dont always order them myself but let someone else order it. I dis find the qc got better with the last few knives we got. 2 years back it felt like none of them had a good finish. If i can believe BPS new bushmates should be shipping with a new sheath 😁 the retention was crap on that sheath i 100% agree

[@knifetimestory]

Thank YOU for contacting me. I sincerely appreciate it. Glad you get the feeling you are getting hand selected Bark River Knives. I've had 20+ and each and every one has had some sort of issue either with the blade, handle or sheath. Never gotten a perfect one. Since you feel the QC may be getting better, maybe, just maybe I'll try and buy one again. I'll have to think about it. I hope you are right about the BPS being shipped with a new style sheath. Yep, that original one was useless. Hope all is well in your part of the world and thanks again for watching and commenting.

[@SWORD1-cm4vb]

Good video Tom. Enjoy your humor. Glad you sprang for the BPS. It is not a perfect copy of the DBK knife, different spine thickness and handle is quite a bit more narrow. I have the DBK knife, and the BPS, big DBK fan. I hope you get a chance to use the DBK at some point, it’s really good, maybe even good enough to justify cost. I digress. Anyways I slack belt ground that factory edge off the BPS and convexed the edge, it is a slicer for sure, thin stock makes a good cutter. The sheath, ugh. I am just using it as is, never open the strap just like a pouch style sheath with a gaping hole in it. Don’t know what they were thinking. I actually came up with a solution, you could add a chunk of leather or something to make a protuberance on the inside of strap and the blade choil will catch on it when it backs out of sheath. Anyways I always type too much. Thanks for video, and thanks for loopholes.

[@knifetimestory]

Thank you for your kind words. I always appreciate your comments. This knife sheath is a major disappointment. I have found a sheath in my bag of sheaths to use instead. I edited that part out of the video as it was getting long. But, even with the new sheath, I have not taken the knife home as I really don't need it. I have my ESEE 3 for my daily tasks. I'm proud of myself for not throwing out this sheath...yet. I know it is on the horizon because it just is so odd and not suited for anything.

[@BrokenBarBox]

The way you called out the metric system there…..the confidence mixed with just the right amount of polite disdain, and possibly….i may be reaching here….a subtle level of condescension was inspiring. You’re obviously an educated man, and you’re not afraid to flaunt it

[@knifetimestory]

Okay...Not gonna lie. This is hilarious. I read it to my wife and she lost it. Beautifully composed and eloquently presented with all the right elements of sincerity and sarcasm. A true work of art. This my friend, is being pinned to the top!!!

[@sweetdrahthaar7951]

@@knifetimestory appreciation of your subscribers, and those who comment put you at the top of your class

[@knifetimestory]

Wow. That is also a very nice comment. I really appreciate it and that is very nice insight. Thank you. Sorry for the late reply. I don't get notifications all the time. So I have to physically check and change the search options.

[@terrylookabill8441]

I found a solution to the sheath retention problem. I turned the retention strap end for end on the rivet. Then pulled the end with the keyhole opening around the knife handle and sheath firmly. And marked the sheath where the keyhole now lined up after punching a hole in the sheath at the mark. I unscrewed the retaining stud from the other end of the strap, and moved it to the newly punched hole. And then just cut off the left over half of the retention strap off. It holds the knife nice and secure, but I adjusted mine so I can still draw the knife without unsnapping it. Just my personal preference.

[@knifetimestory]

Wow. Lots of steps to correct a sheath that should have been right the first time. I simply put it in a pouch sheath I had laying around. Thanks for watching and taking the time to detail your modification. I love seeing stuff like that.

[@zanedclark]

Very nice video. I can remember when we just used knives before we knew what the steel was. They seemed to work! zane

[@knifetimestory]

You are right! Thanks for watching Zane.

[@user-ww4od4jl1f]

*The only minor flaw with this sheath is that the fastening strap on the handle should be rotated 180°. What I did first, which took me a few seconds.*

[@knifetimestory]

Turns out they got the hint and are now offering it with a different sheath.

[@sciloj]

Ultimately, any wooden handle held together with brass fasteners and subjected to actual use in the field, gets destroyed by the corrosion growing around the fasteners. Sometimes, it takes years, sometimes - decades, but it's a programmed obsolescence. Ferrocerium rod holders on a sheath are a gimmick. First, they add more snag points. Second, they are meant for a particular (smallest) size of those rods. Third, go ahead and try putting a worn rod in it - it's going to fall out. Fourth, carrying an important part of your kit this way only increases the chances of losing it. The bottom line is - it's a stupid gimmick for LARPers.

[@knifetimestory]

Excellent excellent excellent comment. Could not agree with you more. Thank you very much for sharing that. However… I’m not hip to all the new lingo so I have to ask, what is a LARP?

[@sciloj]

​@@knifetimestory "LARP" means "live action role play". You know, when someone dresses up like something and pretends to do a certain thing for fun. It's also used as a condescending term for those who don't actually do something (for example, train in shooting, or do actual hiking and backpacking) but pretend to do it for social media. Of course, there's a threshold - like, someone who does weekend hiking and uses a lighter to start a campfire, is still a hiker, but they just don't get enough experience with a ferro rod to gain a fully educated opinion. On the other hand, points that I made (especially, how a loop holder can't hold a worn rod anymore) are easy to figure out using common sense.

[@knifetimestory]

Thank you for following up. That is a great explanation. I appreciate it!

[@sweetdrahthaar7951]

I’ve been enjoying the channel for a good long time now. I appreciate every video you make for us. 👍🏻🇺🇸

[@knifetimestory]

That is a very kind thing to say. I really appreciate it and it is comments like this that keep me going at it. Thank you!!

[@roderickharvey1427]

Sir, with your BPS how do you find their durability? I am sure this has been covered somewhere. That said your presentation is so entertaining. I am looking for a bushcraft blade for my 14 YO Son. All help appreciated. VR, Rod

[@knifetimestory]

You pose a good question. Also, thank you for the kind words. I appreciate it very much. BPS uses a few different methods of handle attachment. The one on the knife featured in the video is garbage. Cheap rivets that will fail at some point. I personally would not give a kid a Scandi blade. Simply because it is an unusual blade style and sharpening it and learning about sharpening does not really translate well with scandi. I'd go with something with a regular blade like an ESEE 3 in carbon steel. It's a tough knife, lifetime guaranteed, and easy enough to learn different ways of sharpening. If you are dead set on a BPS, (because of the price) I'd go with the BS1FT. $27 and a good size and shape. The handle slabs are bolted on and more reliable. The sheath is nice but takes quite a while to break in and makes extraction and reinsertion of the knife tough for a while. If you want something with a plastic sheath that has no break-in period and is also a great knife...and inexpensive, the Mora Companion is fantastic. Hope that helps.

[@brr8888]

The Adventurer is nice too and it cost less.

[@knifetimestory]

Good to know. Thank you.

[@johnnieforbes1618]

I see a possible reason for sheath design… the single side stitched is only place to fix fire steal… keeps cost down having a one side to sew not two… and the little bit of tension pushing against the fire steel might stop it falling out…. Thanks for the video, I recon I’m still going to try that knife looks good. Like the mod on the handle you did looks better

[@knifetimestory]

Nice of you to try and find a rational explanation as to the totally failed sheath design. But...alas, just like Bark River, the philosophy seems to be "Hey, let us make a decent knife, and then throw it into a piece of crap sheath". No rhyme or reason.

[@StagArmslower]

I got one with scandi grind and it's perfect. The sheet is the Mora or Scandinavian design, so the knife sits much deeper in it. The grind doesn't have any striations like Mora knives have from the factory. I paid $35 without cero rod. I think these are perfect. If they added a little thickness it would be real DBK knife.

[@knifetimestory]

Nice going!!

[@wesb123]

I prefer metric because of such a long time into dirt bikes the vast majority of my tools are metric.

[@knifetimestory]

My Ram 2500 has a smattering of both. Gotta love that!

[@wesb123]

@@knifetimestory that’s funny ah 😆

[@cocovasquez1]

BPS has upgraded the sheath, DBK boys posted on their Instagram annoying it but that there’s still some models around but problem has been fixed. Great review

[@knifetimestory]

Thank you for your kind words. I appreciate that very much. Are you saying that they have had the sheath to the BPS model upgraded or there more expensive model?

[@darksi226]

For it to be a "design", to me it has to be unique. Unique in assembly, looks, materials, or function would be a reason to claim the design. That is the most generic knife ever. I mean, what did they say when designing it? Length? Width? Grind? I don't get it. The dbk boys are funny, sometimes, but I think this is a fan boy knife. I'm sure I would enjoy it as a bps knife, but then it would cost half as much. Nice vid. "Loophole" kept cracking me up.

[@knifetimestory]

Okay, now that you said it, I can really say what I think. It looks like a generic steak knife you get at the Sizzler or other steak house. It looks like it could have been made at Old Forge and sold at Walmart. There, I said it. That being said, I am glad I bought it...ahem, I mean I'm glad Knifetime Story bought it so I could check it out. I look forward to beating on it a little in the spring and seeing how it holds up. Thanks so much for watching and commenting. Means a lot!!

[@enwin1912]

BPS 1066 and heatreat is awesome, but rusts easily. The Adventurer has hex head screws, so you can clean under the scales. This doesn’t, BPS make great blades already, they need to ditch DBK and move on.

[@knifetimestory]

Good info and I agree, BPS does not need a DBK connection to succeed.

[@CapnBart1]

Hi Mr. Tom. Just curious, did you find out if the handle is glued and fastened with corbys? Or is it cutler rivets and wishful thinking? Appreciate your insightful analysis, as always.

[@knifetimestory]

I did not disassemble the knife my friend. However… Another subscriber baton his knife a little bit and the handle slabs became loose and shifted a lot. So… That tells me, having been a knife maker for so long, they are cheap simple snap together rivets like you would find on the Old forge knives at Walmart.

[@CapnBart1]

@@knifetimestory Roger dodger Sir. I just ordered one....guess I'll be applying epoxy and pins or corbys....I've done the same to boker/Wenger collab knives. Not a big deal, and I enjoy the work. Thanks much, Mr Tom. Keep up the goodly work.

[@knifetimestory]

Thank you. You will have to drill out the rivets, get a corby rivet bit that automatically countersinks the hole and then you should be all set. Let me know how it turns out.

[@CapnBart1]

@@knifetimestory Will do Sir.

[@knifetimestory]

That may have been confusing. First you have to get the rivets out. Then use the Corby rivet drill bit for the new screw together rocksolid Corby rivets. Put a dab of epoxy on the threads and smear a little on the inside wall of the hole and then screw together keep tightening it was nice and snug. Don’t over tighten it will break it right in the middle. Also, because those rivets are very snug fit in the hole, do not use a lot of epoxy because it will have nowhere to ooze out and you will create a Hydro lock in the middle so to speak.

[@kanukkarhu]

I'm still trying to understand how the rest of the world's "inferior" measuring system is, in fact, inferior. A dime is about a mm. Ten dimes are a centemeter. 100 of those are a meter. (I left out decimetres, because who uses them?) No, my Isolationist friend, it is the best system of measurement in the world. And I hate it. In Canada, we are officially metric. Unofficially, I'd say we're a zombification of the Imperial and Metric systems. (Kinda like "the Imperial system and the Metric system had a baby...") The metric system (along with the English language) was born in Europe, got sick in Canada, and died in the US. Knives. I like that knife. I want to buy that knife. But i prolly won't. Pinching pennies these days. Great video Tom. Youre insane (a little) but man, do I get where you're coming from. Oh, PS. Maybe that sheath makes it MORE like a Barkie than anything else after all? 😬😁

[@knifetimestory]

You Canadians. So sorry you have such a dysfunctional country right below you that seems to affect you guys so much. The imperial system makes no sense. Metric is so anal-retentive in a mathematical sort of way. Not sure why we resist changing over. I have to have both sets of sockets for when I want to work on my Ram truck. Why? I have no flipping idea. I mean honestly, pick a system and stick with it.

[@sharzadgabbai4408]

How many are dead from KNOWN defects in Automobiles? Some suit getting millions in bonuses figured out it’s cheaper to settle with the grieving families than fix the fucking problem. Do we handcuff him to said vehicle Until the wheels fo gall off? No, we bitch about a knife sheath.

[@knifetimestory]

😂 You need to put down the crack pipe, and learn some spelling, capitalization, punctuation, and grammar, but most importantly...keep in mind this was a KNIFE video and not a documentary about the Ford Pinto.

[@cwsmith17]

Thanks for the video

[@knifetimestory]

You bet. Thank you!

[@larrykoroush6995]

I got one last week. The closing strap did nothing to hold knife. I re-did it. I put linseed on handle and patinaed it. I also treated the leather

[@knifetimestory]

Welp. Not just my sheath then. Hmmmm. I wonder if DPS will rethink that design?

[@justicar5]

​@@knifetimestorythey apparently have already done a redesign

[@knifetimestory]

Good to hear. I’d like to actually get one of those sheaths to check it out.

[@chrishynes6091]

That's pretty nice. I don't mind fiddling with handles; I buy Tramontina machetes and redo the handles (they're almost like a kit knife ). I'll have to hold off a couple weeks cause I just dropped $300 tonight on a new trigger for my AR pistol. 😬 If I get that knife and think the sheath sucks I'll just make a new one... I do that shit 😉

[@knifetimestory]

Glad to hear you also are adept at fixing and making things work. So many are not wired that way, or grew up swiping a screen and not actually doing something tactile with their hands.

[@emersonmsd]

The BPS Beta would have been a better choice.

[@knifetimestory]

I’ll have to look into it.

[@labotimy]

Everyone seems to throw a bit of shade at BRK, not sure why. I have a bravo 1.5, and a gunny. Both are excellent, although both have some extremely minor cosmetic imperfections in the handle scales but that's just part of the process that comes with hand finished knives imo. Just as a contrast I also have the f4 scandi and f6 from Reiff, and man I don't think I've ever seen fit and finish on par in the sub 500$ price range. Noticeably more precise finish on the Reiff stuff.

[@knifetimestory]

Shade is well deserved. For the price, cosmetic imperfections, asymmetrical grinds, poor heat treat, crap sheaths, swelling micarta, gaps in joints (guard meets blade), and all that should be a rarity, not the norm. As for Reiff, I'll have to check them out. Thanks.

[@labotimy]

@@knifetimestory Well I guess I got lucky with my two knives.

[@knifetimestory]

Yes you did!

[@Gman1024]

Looks like a well finished knife, especially for the money, I like it. I'm curious if you can pull that loop tighter around the handle/sheath and put in another hole to lock it in as you like. Maybe not since there's a slit. Appears to be well retention-ed enough though, so maybe problem solved, haha. Thanks for the upload.

[@knifetimestory]

Your idea is very valid, but you are also right in that the slit is there as well. I edited out the part of the video where I showed exactly what you are suggesting, and how it could not be done. Thanks for watching my friend.

[@milesrobertson6882]

@@knifetimestoryyou can unscrew that little bead and move it back a half inch and it will be tight as hell. I did that, and there’s no slippage anymore.

[@knifetimestory]

Or…, I could throw it in the trash. And use a spare pouch sheath that I have lying around that fits it perfectly.

[@Gman1024]

@@knifetimestory, haha, decisions, decisions....

[@knifetimestory]

I really hated to do it. Because it really was a nice big chunk of heavy leather and nicely put together. But just the wrong sheath for that knife and basically unusable. So now it’s in a nice perfectly fitting sheath.

[@ROE1300]

Interesting that the retaining strap seems to be more of a sophisticated artistic design element than a functional component. A new concept in sheath design? I have looked everywhere for my loophole and seem to have lost it - darn the luck. If I knew what this knife would do that my Buck 117 or Buck 110 will not do perhaps I could convince myself this was a piece of “must have” gear. Oh, I have a nice small hatchet for chopping tasks, my knives are limited to slicing and cutting.

[@knifetimestory]

I'm glad I got it. Have not been inspired to take it home yet. I don't have a knife in my now greatly reduced stable that needs to be bumped out of line with this DBK.

[@ROE1300]

@@knifetimestory After the glorious review you gave this knife I just had to get one, it arrived today. I paid $44.00 on Amazon. I believe the curve on the blade side of the sheath is a nice decorative feature and the curved end seems to lock in the included ferro rod. Not sure how long that will last once the sheath gets some wear & tear on it with use. I did not doubt you as you clearly demonstrated the retaining strap does NOT retain the knife. In fact I tightened the strap as close I could on the sheath and there is no way to even modify mine to retain the knife - very curious design feature. I do like the size of the knife and will probably modify the finger guard as you did. I don’t have anything I want to sell to make room for this blade either, but I know a 9 year old who accompanies his Dad on hunting trips that will love it. As always thank you for pointing me in the direction of another seemingly nice knife and even with retaining strap curiosity a very nice sheath.

[@knifetimestory]

That’s great. I’m glad you got one. I hope it serves you well for a long time. Maybe someday you will find a pouch sheath that will fit that knife perfectly and then you will have quite the ensemble. As always thank you very much for watching!

[@airiksknifereviews9548]

Oh ...wow i just noticed i wasnt subbed under my other channel I use .... You get two subs out of one, nice 👍

[@knifetimestory]

Yay! Thanks! That is awesome. I appreciate that!!

[@jasonaffeldt7838]

Interesting review. Take care.🇺🇲🔪🔥🌲

[@knifetimestory]

Thanks, you too!

[@The-Armed-Pacifist]

I get it. You hate the metric system because it actually has a scientific base and all the components are related as opposed to the system we use in the U.S. which was based on the average size of the left foot of 16 randomly selected people.

[@knifetimestory]

Or...I was joking around as I am apt to do, and you actually did NOT get it. Hmmmm. Let me know.

[@The-Armed-Pacifist]

@@knifetimestory No, I didn’t get it. America was offered the opportunity to accept the metric system, but the public rejected it out of ignorance and fear. Having a science background as a pharmacist, the metric system just seems to make so much more sense.

[@knifetimestory]

Yep it does make sense. And for just that reason… This country will never accept it!

[@wolfjouett2048]

"Loophole"... classic.

[@knifetimestory]

Glad you liked that.

[@TaughtFirst-w7n]

Clark Jason Martin Jose Robinson Scott

[@knifetimestory]

You need to adjust your meds.

[@trinityparore4721]

modify the fkn sheath retention strap by unsewing it shortening it and resewing, jhc, its that fkn simple

[@knifetimestory]

Oh, okay. Or...they could make a proper sheath that is not a piece of crap. Even with the retainer tightened, it does not touch any part of the knife on it's way out. So, thanks for the idea, but I guess it's back to the drawing board.

[@wesb123]

$43 on Amazon so I ordered one

[@knifetimestory]

Well done. Wow. That price is all over the place. Did you use the affiliate link from my channel? Enjoy!

[@m.kruger3182]

I think all the Time watching Channels like this one, why these super self-proclaimed experts in the field of knife customers don't just put all their energy into their own knife - which is perfect for them - instead of working off the successes of others. See DBK and also BPS.

[@knifetimestory]

If I read this correctly, you say I am a self-proclaimed expert. If that is not the case, and you actually have a productive comment to share, I'll be happy to address it. Let me know.

[@vettefatty]

what do you mean with loophole i am not a english speaker

[@knifetimestory]

Google it.

[@MAXCOBRALAZERFACE]

I’ve been carrying a cold steel Finn wolf lately. I’m surprised how much I’m liking it. 👍🏻

[@knifetimestory]

Good to hear. How do you like the edge holding? If they made it with S35VN I'd be all over it.

[@MAXCOBRALAZERFACE]

@@knifetimestory Edge is holding up surprisingly well for aus 8. Cold Steel should definitely make a Finn Wolf in a super steel. ✌🏻

[@knifetimestory]

That would be awesome!

[@thomaspotter7765]

On this topic,why is the largest of the Finn series the Hawk, and the least of a knife the Bear? The Wolf works for the middle one and I probably more confident batoning with the Wolf than either of the rest.

[@BrianMadMak15]

Bps used dbk design but it's not a dbk knife

[@knifetimestory]

Never said it was.

[@TheDavewatts]

It's not the same knife at all, the steel is crap very prone to rusting and awful edge retention, I picked up a Mora Garberg for the same price as you paid for that, a far better knife in my opinion.

[@knifetimestory]

Garberg costs twice as much.…The Garberg is an amazing knife!

[@TheDavewatts]

@@knifetimestory I picked a Garberg up really cheap in a sale, but to be honest I would happily have paid full price for it rather than buy a BPS knife, a Mora robust, hultafors heavy duty cost probably three times less if not more and would serve you better. Obviously this is just my opinion and you're entitled to yours. 👍🏻

[@knifetimestory]

I really like the robust Companion. However… I sure would not pound on it like I do the Garberg.

[@TheDavewatts]

@@knifetimestory 🤣 no me neither, I tend to use an axe for splitting, or my MOD survival knife, now that's a knife you can beat on.😁👍🏻

[@knifetimestory]

Cool. Thanks again for watching and chatting!!

[@LosRiji]

What did I just watch?

[@knifetimestory]

A finally crafted video about a specific BPS knife, and it’s garbage sheath!

[@roguesheep1747]

Imperial v metric 😂🤣🤣

[@manguydude905]

Great knife, terrible sheath. Wish it came with the same sheath as the BPS adventurer. Hate the sheath this came with.

[@knifetimestory]

Yep...sheath is hideous. Darn shame. Really makes the entire package not worth it in my mind.

[@manguydude905]

Ya I agree, I wish they gave you the option, I find most sheaths with the strap feature are pretty useless unless the knife has a guard on it.

[@manguydude905]

Also be careful batoning this knife, from other reviews iv seen the handles will shift unfortunately, I normally bring a hatchet into the woods so it's not an issue but for some people who want that "one tool option" knife, they won't be very happy

[@knifetimestory]

With that last comment, I believe you answered my question about whether the scales were attached with Corby rivets or just pins. I'm guessing by the movement they are cheap pins like those used on the Old Forge Knives you get at Walmart.

[@manguydude905]

Yep and it seems they don't use a very good epoxy on them before they are pinned or don't use any at all.

[@ricardodafonseca9043]

Haha.. inferior European measuring system... Nice one. Funny jokes

[@knifetimestory]

Thank you. I just open my mouth and weird crap like that falls out. That is why my circle of friends is not even plural.

[@airiksknifereviews9548]

I like to buy and build puuko knives from blanks...I gotta say I think im being slowly brainwashed into an inferior state of mind. I dont have to guess how many inches a blade is when purchasing my knives now , and ...the spelling of the word Puukko looks totaly normal 🤪🫣

[@knifetimestory]

Did I misspell it somewhere? I like to have proper grammar, spelling, and punctuation.